Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve, too much of a republican.
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve
Former President Ronald Reagan - served in a noncombat role. He later seems
to have confused his role as an actor playing a tail gunner with the real
"B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college
acting classes (Orange County Register article)
Senator John McCain - McCain's naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze
Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did
the Bush campaign smear him so?
Former Senator Bob Dole - an honorable man.
Chuck Hagel - two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam.
Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross,
two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other
Omitted as is another prominent democrat. Former Senator John Glenn was a
decorated WWII/Korea Marine fighter pilot, test pilot, astronaut and true
Slick Willie is above AWOL Bush...who, after all, went AWOL which is
far worse than the worse innuendo you can hurl at President Clinton.
You should read what Sec. Powel wrote in his autobiography about what
President Clinton did to avoid the draft.
George McGovern - WWI bomber pilot
Overall, few if any elected democrats have served
since the end of the draft.
TRUTHSEEKER <Truth...@homelandinsecurity.com> wrote...
: Who served in the military?
That would make him one heck of a
lot older than he really is, no?
Clinton tried to dodge, but succumbed to an attack of conscience. You could
say he "tried dodging", but he "didn't inhale"...
Ultimately though, Clinton was willing to walk his talk. You may disagree
with him, but when push came to shove -- his behavior matched his beliefs.
It may seem strange, but that is the definition of INTEGRITY.
Clinton knew from age eleven that he wanted to be President, and he knew
what his opposition to the Vietnam war and the draft could cost him in
political life. Read his letter.
Fact: Clinton openly objected to the Vietnam war and the draft.
Fact: Clinton sought and received an ROTC deferment, but he never intended
to enter officer training.
Fact: Consumed by guilt at his deceit (according to his apology letter to
ROTC), he set aside his ROTC deferment and submitted himself to the draft.
Fact: He subsequently drew a high draft lottery number and was not,
NOW let's take a look at Shrubya (we'll leave Cheney's FOUR draft deferments
GW not only had his daddy pull strings so he could cut to the front of an
unbelievably long waiting list for AirNatGuard spots (the best way to stay
out of 'Nam, and GET PAID by TAXPAYERS for it), he also got a special slot
made for him to make sure that the only combat plane he was ever rated to
fly was an F-102. Why did they need to make a special slot for GW to be an
F-102 pilot? Because F-102's had been obsoleted -- pulled from all active
military use and all new pilot training on that airframe had been CANCELED.
Getting himself trained on a MILITARILY USELESS F-102 in the Texas Air
National Guard at taxpayer expense was a neat trick for the AWOL
chicken-shit hypocrite GW to guarantee NO CHANCE of going to WAR, but that
wasn't enough for GW. He made sure he was de-rated for even that plane by
not showing up for his mandatory flight physicals (or maybe it was to hide
his drug use?). This all happened well before he went AWOL.
So, not only did Shrubya dodge combat service, skip out on his service
obligation and commit treason (yes, AWOL in wartime is equivalent to
TREASON), he sucked up valuable taxpayer funded military pilot training
dollars as well, and then never fulfilled his obligation to the USA. And
now, we have to hold back the urge to vomit as we watch him wave the flag of
Hmm... Clinton or Bush.
I'll take an active conscientious objector who never lied about his
opposition to the Vietnam war over a hypocritical, chicken-hawk, yellow,
lying, spoon-up-his-nose, AWOL,
hide-from-the-war-behind-my-high-powered-daddy piece of shit scumbag
anytime. What an asshole. GW doesn't even deserve the dubious distinction of
bearing his fathers last name.
Shall we talk about Cheney now? Nah...he at least Dick had the
quasi-integrity to get FOUR REAL deferments -- student (2x), Marriage (1x)
and Parental (1x). At least we didn't have to pay him a SALARY for his
no...it would not..because that's what he was
<general_mauser@itchy+scratchy.com> wrote in message
Born in 1922, he clearly missed WWI. However he was as pilot in WWII.
Dang! He looks pretty good for a 107-year-old!
"TRUTHSEEKER" <Truth...@homelandinsecurity.com> wrote in message
Your count is off. Dems are in the high 70's last I counted (late last
year), and on a PERCENTAGE basis their participation is roughly equal to
republicans, despite the fact that Dems average age is slightly younger.
More importantly, after subtracting the number of congressmen and women who
served in state national guard and reserve only positions, it turns out that
more Democrats have served in the US armed forces - you know, ARMY, NAVY,
AIR FORCE, MARINES - the ones who actually RISK GOING TO WAR.
> Most of the democrats served before Vietnam
> Overall, few if any elected democrats have served
> since the end of the draft.
"N9NWO" <n9...@amsat.org> wrote in message
<general_mauser@itchy+scratchy.com> wrote in message
DO TELL, PLEASE!!!!
wounded in combat and arm permanently injured
As if Powell would know.
"World War II interrupted McGovern's education in 1943. He flew 35 combat
missions as a B-24 bomber pilot in Europe, earning the Distinguished Flying
Cross. After the war he returned to Dakota Wesleyan University, graduating
in 1946. McGovern then attended Garrett Seminary for one year before
enrolling at Northwestern University in Chicago, where he earned his M.A.
and Ph.D. degrees in American history and government."
"jan_49" <tpowers_@_justice.com> wrote in message
>Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle - Served his country in uniform, 1969-72
Which country? Chicoms? North Koreans? Khmer Rouge? Canada?
Those are the only ones who take dwarfs. Alright, maybe not Canada.
>John Glenn was a
>decorated WWII/Korea Marine fighter pilot, test pilot, astronaut and true
The other guys in the space program hated him. In return for running
cover for Clinton's transgressions, he was given another space walk.
>As a devout pacifist
When the bomb NYC with a thermonuclear weapon, will you fight then, or
do you prefer to be a slave?
Are you a real pacifist, or just a coward who prefers someone else die
for your freedom?
"morgan mair fheal" <mair_...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > : Former Senator Bob Dole - an honorable man.
> > : http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.html
> wounded in combat and arm permanently injured
Hmm...same injury as Darth Vader, just before he went over to the dark
Sorry, that was cheap. Bob Dole served honorably. Shrubya isn't fit to stand
in the same room with a guy like Bob Dole.
Come to think of it, if I had known that we'd have shrubya in office today,
I'd have voted for Dole, and for his re-election. I'd rather have eight
years of Dole than four years of shrubbie.
Clinton served as president for 8 years and gave us the best 8 years
america ever had. That counts for something.
Really. Was he in the Lafayette Escadrille then?
Or in Eddie Rickenbachers "Hat in the Ring" group?
Come to think of it, the US didn't even HAVE bombers
Hey, bonehead - they served in Canada or Britain.
I served in 'Nam with quite a few pacifists. We called 'em medics.
"Right knows no boundaries, and justice no frontiers; the brotherhood of
man is not a domestic institution." 覧 Judge Learned Hand (1945)
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Oh, one more point...
They were guys who knew the difference between pacifism and cowardice.
Just as I'd hope there are posters who recognize sarcasm when they see it.
Where's Newt Gingrich?
Where's Dick Armey?
Where's all the other right wing chicken hawks?
Where's your hero and mentor, Rush Limbaugh?
Right, little right wing fuckwit?
Imagine being such a piece of shit that you admire a piece of shit
At least a pacifist believes in something..