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Captain Compassion

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Dec 29, 2005, 12:29:25 PM12/29/05
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01- Millais - The Blind Girl
02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring
03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den
04- Dongen - Corn Poppy
05- Homer - The Morning Bell
06- Van Gogh - Starry Night
07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893
08- Seurat - The Sideshow
09- Hopper - Nighthawks
10- Turner - Slave Ship

Others of note alpha order.

Delacroix - Woman with a Parrot
Goya - Shootings-3-5-1808
hassam - moonlight, the old house 1906
Klimt - Vita e morte
Munch - Gelosia
Pascin - Nude With Green Hat c1925
Rembrandt - Sea of Galilea
Rousseau - The Dream
Toulouse-Lautrec - Rue des moulins, the medical inspection 1894
Wyeth - Christinas World


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George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.

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Dec 29, 2005, 1:56:46 PM12/29/05
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:29:25 -0800, Captain Compassion
<dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:


In visual art, more than in some of your other categories, beauty is
in the eye of the beholder.

I like broccoli, former President Bush does not. I think it's a
mistake for me to say I'm right and he's wrong.

There are objective ways to measure, to a degree, the appeal of music.
I "know" that Rush Limbaugh is a fool, no matter what others think.
That objective truth is not as applicable to broccoli, nor to
paintings.

But I can tell you that I once saw a painting, across the room, which
stunned me, which "spoke" to me with deep thoughts - Rembrandt's
Saint Bartholomew at the Getty museum. I heard a compelling,
emotionally deep message - that even great material success, and high
social standing, fail to compensate for the cruel fact that soon we
will die.

Few other paintings have been as meaningful for me.

Rick Hohensee

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Dec 29, 2005, 2:07:24 PM12/29/05
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In article <m678r1pqodgbmveob...@4ax.com>,

Captain Compassion <dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>01- Millais - The Blind Girl
>02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring
>03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den
>04- Dongen - Corn Poppy
>05- Homer - The Morning Bell
>06- Van Gogh - Starry Night
>07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893
>08- Seurat - The Sideshow
>09- Hopper - Nighthawks
>10- Turner - Slave Ship
>
>Others of note alpha order.
>
>Delacroix - Woman with a Parrot
>Goya - Shootings-3-5-1808
>hassam - moonlight, the old house 1906
>Klimt - Vita e morte
>Munch - Gelosia
>Pascin - Nude With Green Hat c1925
>Rembrandt - Sea of Galilea
>Rousseau - The Dream
>Toulouse-Lautrec - Rue des moulins, the medical inspection 1894
>Wyeth - Christinas World
>
>

Da Vinci Genevre de Benci because it's in DC
Frazetta pick one with women in it
Picasso Guernica

Captain Compassion

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Dec 29, 2005, 2:30:58 PM12/29/05
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:56:46 -0800, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyre...@mooresciencehigh.edu> wrote:

>On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:29:25 -0800, Captain Compassion
><dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>In visual art, more than in some of your other categories, beauty is
>in the eye of the beholder.
>
>I like broccoli, former President Bush does not. I think it's a
>mistake for me to say I'm right and he's wrong.
>
>There are objective ways to measure, to a degree, the appeal of music.
>I "know" that Rush Limbaugh is a fool, no matter what others think.
>That objective truth is not as applicable to broccoli, nor to
>paintings.
>
>But I can tell you that I once saw a painting, across the room, which
>stunned me, which "spoke" to me with deep thoughts - Rembrandt's
>Saint Bartholomew at the Getty museum. I heard a compelling,
>emotionally deep message - that even great material success, and high
>social standing, fail to compensate for the cruel fact that soon we
>will die.
>
>Few other paintings have been as meaningful for me.
>
>

Exactly George. Purely subjective. My third choice, Daniel in the
Lions Den, became my third choice after seeing it at National Museum
of Art in DC. It's a large painting I set and stared at for over an
hour.


>
>
>
>
>>01- Millais - The Blind Girl
>>02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring
>>03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den
>>04- Dongen - Corn Poppy
>>05- Homer - The Morning Bell
>>06- Van Gogh - Starry Night
>>07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893
>>08- Seurat - The Sideshow
>>09- Hopper - Nighthawks
>>10- Turner - Slave Ship
>>
>>Others of note alpha order.
>>
>>Delacroix - Woman with a Parrot
>>Goya - Shootings-3-5-1808
>>hassam - moonlight, the old house 1906
>>Klimt - Vita e morte
>>Munch - Gelosia
>>Pascin - Nude With Green Hat c1925
>>Rembrandt - Sea of Galilea
>>Rousseau - The Dream
>>Toulouse-Lautrec - Rue des moulins, the medical inspection 1894
>>Wyeth - Christinas World

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Captain Compassion

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Dec 29, 2005, 2:33:30 PM12/29/05
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:07:24 -0000, humb...@smart.net (Rick Hohensee)
wrote:

I've all the old Conan novels. Love the covers.

>Picasso Guernica

Yes indeed.

>>
>>Joseph R. Darancette
>>dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net

GW Chimpzilla

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Dec 29, 2005, 2:39:23 PM12/29/05
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Captain Compassion wrote:

> 01- Millais - The Blind Girl
> 02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring
> 03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den
> 04- Dongen - Corn Poppy
> 05- Homer - The Morning Bell
> 06- Van Gogh - Starry Night
> 07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893

Nah. Luncheon of the Boating Party is better

http://www.wksu.org/news/images/17983/Renoir-Luncheon.jpg

But top 10 paintings are kinda weird.

Cubism is nothing unless you get to see the actual paintings....

http://picasso.xaper.com/images/the_poet.jpg

Bill Bonde ('Soli Deo Gloria')

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Dec 29, 2005, 4:15:09 PM12/29/05
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"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." wrote:
>
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:29:25 -0800, Captain Compassion
> <dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>
> In visual art, more than in some of your other categories, beauty is
> in the eye of the beholder.
>
> I like broccoli, former President Bush does not. I think it's a
> mistake for me to say I'm right and he's wrong.
>

I think that former president Bush hasn't had broccoli done right. It
can have a strong taste, as many green vegetables that are good for you
can. One bit of fusion cooking is to take steamed or microwave broccoli
and put parmesan cheese and soy sauce on it. It's sounds weird because
they are from two widely different cooking cultures but it goes good
with broccoli.

> There are objective ways to measure, to a degree, the appeal of music.
> I "know" that Rush Limbaugh is a fool, no matter what others think.
> That objective truth is not as applicable to broccoli, nor to
> paintings.
>
> But I can tell you that I once saw a painting, across the room, which
> stunned me, which "spoke" to me with deep thoughts - Rembrandt's
> Saint Bartholomew at the Getty museum. I heard a compelling,
> emotionally deep message - that even great material success, and high
> social standing, fail to compensate for the cruel fact that soon we
> will die.
>

Sounds like a message that gets repeated endlessly, until we die. Art in
all its forms is about the transitory nature of life, about how you can
never step into the same stream twice.

--
He and Evie soon fell into a conversation of the "No, I didn't; yes, you
did" type--conversation which, though fascinating to those who are
engaged in it, neither desires nor deserves the attention of others.
-+E.M. Forster, "Howards End"

gaffo

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Dec 29, 2005, 9:35:28 PM12/29/05
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Captain Compassion wrote:
> 01- Millais - The Blind Girl

???

> 02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring


yes. all Vermeer is tops!

> 03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den


~ ok. not a Rubens fan, but decent.


> 04- Dongen - Corn Poppy

???

> 05- Homer - The Morning Bell


??

> 06- Van Gogh - Starry Night


ok. truth be known. I'm not a big fan. He's good - but overrated IMO.
not "best" thats for sure.


> 07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893


yes. i like his taste in gals too ;-). ya, our culture says go for small
butts and skiny gals. well you can have that Captain!! "I like big
butts".........on a regular sized gal. pearshaped - big butt/hips small
waste/shoulders = turn on ;-).......

oh ya, lost track - Renoir? - yes Excellent!! his colors are fab!

> 08- Seurat - The Sideshow


no. we must part our ways here Captain ;-(. the dot thing is
"different", yes even inovative. but that is not enough. as an artist he
is not that great.


> 09- Hopper - Nighthawks


??? - seem vaguely familiar, but cannot place the name.

> 10- Turner - Slave Ship


???

> Others of note alpha order.
>
> Delacroix - Woman with a Parrot

??

> Goya - Shootings-3-5-1808

YES YES YES YES........in fact he is maybe #1!!!!!!!!!!! in my book.

that above one or the "coven/witch" one is his best......and the one
where Cronos is eating his son Zeus is pretty fucking kewl too!


> hassam - moonlight, the old house 1906


??

> Klimt - Vita e morte


- not a modern art fan myself. Kadinsky/chagal is as close as I get
(which i like BTW)

> Munch - Gelosia
> Pascin - Nude With Green Hat c1925


??

> Rembrandt - Sea of Galilea


good - but dark like Goya (literally).


> Rousseau - The Dream


?? thought he was a writter............???

> Toulouse-Lautrec - Rue des moulins, the medical inspection 1894

YES - often overlooked being a "Graphic artist" instead of the "Real"
thing. Tops!! He was one of the top ten definately!

> Wyeth - Christinas World


?? heard the name - landscape?


..............

lord, been since College since I though about Artists:.............not
up on them with all the years gone by (15+)

....................

lets go with Artists instead of particular works ok Captain? that would
make it easier. (BTW - "artist" includes everything from classics to
commic-books IMO). I do not support snobbery.


1. Goya. overall he is #1. not his realism (which is not that great) but
the content (subject) forces emotion upon us.

Goya would have made a good Propaganda artist, of which I have alot of
respect for (in fact have a book on it). Germans employed alot of
excellent artists to convey patriotism/hate/fear/arrogance/etc.... top
art must evoke some emotion.


2. Robert Taylor (no, not the actor ;-)..) - WW2 aircraft art (no not
nose art).........paintings of dogfights/bomber runs etc.......oil only.
not that acrilic crap.

NOTE: humans that paint machines are not viewed equal to humans that
paint people/landscapes. this is a load of crap and simple predice.

3. Don Dickson - Space Art. paintings of the surface of moons/asteroids,
planets etc.......beutiful work (did alot of artwork for NASA and
magazine covers in the 1980s').

4. John Berkey - same as above. His gift is the rendering of spaceships
with an organic "feel" to them. He painted the "famous" Challenger
Exploding we all saw on the magazine covers. He also did the artwork for
the Star Wars Poster (one of his first commisions). Taylor, Berkey and
Dickson are Goya's equals.

5. Dreur(sp) - midevil art. people, animals and demons - alot of pen work.

6. Chuck Jones - How the Grinch Stole X-mas. need I say more?

7. Giesel(sp) (Dr Seuse)...above, need i say more?

8. Fredic Back - "the Man who planted trees" - "the mighty river" -
"Crock" - "All nothing". A Master artist/film maker. French canadian.
(you can only get his works via Radio Canada - I shelled out 100 bucks
for his films (and his works are worth it!)...........if you'd like - I
can make a copy for you, let me know). I cannot stress how good this guy
is and how little he is known.


9. Toulouse-Lautrec

10. Eischer(sp) - no emotional impact and so not more than tenth place.
but a mind of such great mathematical and visual wizardy does merit
tenth place.


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warrentless searches."
--Adolf Hitler

gaffo

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Dec 29, 2005, 9:40:55 PM12/29/05
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Captain Compassion wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:56:46 -0800, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
> <tyre...@mooresciencehigh.edu> wrote:
>
>
>>On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:29:25 -0800, Captain Compassion
>><dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>In visual art, more than in some of your other categories, beauty is
>>in the eye of the beholder.
>>
>>I like broccoli, former President Bush does not. I think it's a
>>mistake for me to say I'm right and he's wrong.
>>
>>There are objective ways to measure, to a degree, the appeal of music.
>>I "know" that Rush Limbaugh is a fool, no matter what others think.
>>That objective truth is not as applicable to broccoli, nor to
>>paintings.
>>
>>But I can tell you that I once saw a painting, across the room, which
>>stunned me, which "spoke" to me with deep thoughts - Rembrandt's
>>Saint Bartholomew at the Getty museum. I heard a compelling,
>>emotionally deep message - that even great material success, and high
>>social standing, fail to compensate for the cruel fact that soon we
>>will die.
>>
>>Few other paintings have been as meaningful for me.
>>
>>
>
> Exactly George. Purely subjective.


I'd like to insert the word "mostly"............

not "purely".

Jesus doll in a jar of piss ain't art (not to me nor to most of us).


--

gaffo

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Dec 29, 2005, 9:44:49 PM12/29/05
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damn! forgot about Frazetta!! (my apologies Sir) yes he likes hippy gals
too ;-).

good artist too!!

FAR better than Boris!!

>>Picasso Guernica

good one!......not a fan of his, but this work is very moving!

> Yes indeed.
>
>
>>>Joseph R. Darancette
>>>dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net
>>
>


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gaffo

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Dec 29, 2005, 10:20:29 PM12/29/05
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gaffo wrote:

> 8. Fredic Back - "the Man who planted trees" - "the mighty river" -
> "Crock" - "All nothing". A Master artist/film maker. French canadian.
> (you can only get his works via Radio Canada - I shelled out 100 bucks
> for his films (and his works are worth it!)...........if you'd like - I
> can make a copy for you, let me know). I cannot stress how good this guy
> is and how little he is known.


http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006UF7NY/qid=1135912698/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5736332-8429749?n=507846&s=dvd&v=glance


looks easier and cheaper to get now...........

i have it, so let me know :-).

Captain Compassion

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Dec 29, 2005, 11:58:24 PM12/29/05
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:35:28 GMT, gaffo <ga...@usenet.net> wrote:

>Captain Compassion wrote:
>> 01- Millais - The Blind Girl
>
>???

A blind girl and her little friend. A blind face turned to the sun
after a rain storm.

http://www.victorianweb.org/victorian/painting/millais/paintings/blindgirl.html


>
>
>
>> 02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring
>
>
>yes. all Vermeer is tops!
>
>
>
>> 03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den
>
>
>~ ok. not a Rubens fan, but decent.
>
>
>
>
>> 04- Dongen - Corn Poppy
>
>???
>

http://www.famousartreproductions.com/vandongen.html


>
>
>> 05- Homer - The Morning Bell
>
>
>??

Best of the Americans.
http://cgfa.dotsrc.org/homer/p-homer14.htm


>
>
>
>> 06- Van Gogh - Starry Night
>
>
>
>
>ok. truth be known. I'm not a big fan. He's good - but overrated IMO.
>not "best" thats for sure.
>
>
>
>
>> 07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893
>
>
>
>
>yes. i like his taste in gals too ;-). ya, our culture says go for small
>butts and skiny gals. well you can have that Captain!! "I like big
>butts".........on a regular sized gal. pearshaped - big butt/hips small
>waste/shoulders = turn on ;-).......
>
>
>
>oh ya, lost track - Renoir? - yes Excellent!! his colors are fab!
>
>
>
>
>
>> 08- Seurat - The Sideshow
>
>
>
>
>no. we must part our ways here Captain ;-(. the dot thing is
>"different", yes even inovative. but that is not enough. as an artist he
>is not that great.
>
>
>
>
>> 09- Hopper - Nighthawks
>
>
>??? - seem vaguely familiar, but cannot place the name.
>

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/hopper/street/hopper.nighthawks.jpg


>
>
>> 10- Turner - Slave Ship
>
>
>???
>

The colors.
http://history.hanover.edu/courses/art/turnss.html


>
>
>
>
>> Others of note alpha order.
>>
>> Delacroix - Woman with a Parrot
>
>??

http://cgfa.sunsite.dk/delacroi/p-delacroix29.htm


>
>
>
>> Goya - Shootings-3-5-1808
>
>
>
>YES YES YES YES........in fact he is maybe #1!!!!!!!!!!! in my book.
>
>that above one or the "coven/witch" one is his best......and the one
>where Cronos is eating his son Zeus is pretty fucking kewl too!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> hassam - moonlight, the old house 1906
>
>
>??

http://www.mezzo-mondo.com/arts/mm/hassam/HAC020.html

>
>
>
>> Klimt - Vita e morte
>
>
>
>
>- not a modern art fan myself. Kadinsky/chagal is as close as I get
>(which i like BTW)
>
>
>
>
>
>> Munch - Gelosia
>> Pascin - Nude With Green Hat c1925
>
>
>??
>
>
>
>> Rembrandt - Sea of Galilea
>
>
>
>
>good - but dark like Goya (literally).
>
>
>
>
>> Rousseau - The Dream
>
>
>?? thought he was a writter............???
>

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/rousseau/rousseau.dream.jpg


>
>
>
>
>> Toulouse-Lautrec - Rue des moulins, the medical inspection 1894
>
>
>
>
>
>YES - often overlooked being a "Graphic artist" instead of the "Real"
>thing. Tops!! He was one of the top ten definately!
>
>
>
>> Wyeth - Christinas World
>
>
>?? heard the name - landscape?
>

Sortta.
http://www.jssgallery.org/Other_Artists/Andrew_Wyeth/Christinas_World.htm

1. Vermeer
2. Winslow Homer
3. Millias
4. Renoir
5. Turner
6. Munch
7. Rembrant
8. Goya
9. Toulouse-Lautrec
10. Wyeth

Captain Compassion

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:20:29 GMT, gaffo <ga...@usenet.net> wrote:

>gaffo wrote:
>
>
>
>> 8. Fredic Back - "the Man who planted trees" - "the mighty river" -
>> "Crock" - "All nothing". A Master artist/film maker. French canadian.
>> (you can only get his works via Radio Canada - I shelled out 100 bucks
>> for his films (and his works are worth it!)...........if you'd like - I
>> can make a copy for you, let me know). I cannot stress how good this guy
>> is and how little he is known.
>
>
>
>
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006UF7NY/qid=1135912698/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5736332-8429749?n=507846&s=dvd&v=glance
>
>
>looks easier and cheaper to get now...........
>
>i have it, so let me know :-).

Sounds obscure. Only thing by this guy on Netflix is Sam & Janet.

gaffo

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Dec 30, 2005, 12:26:02 AM12/30/05
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Captain Compassion wrote:

>>>05- Homer - The Morning Bell
>>
>>
>>??
>
> Best of the Americans.
> http://cgfa.dotsrc.org/homer/p-homer14.htm


DAMN - sweet. nice pict and the red color is perdy.

>>>09- Hopper - Nighthawks
>>
>>
>>??? - seem vaguely familiar, but cannot place the name.
>>
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/hopper/street/hopper.nighthawks.jpg

the Diner!!!!!!!............yes! I love his work, forgot his name ;-/.

good one Captain!

>>
>>>Rousseau - The Dream
>>
>>
>>?? thought he was a writter............???
>>
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/rousseau/rousseau.dream.jpg

looks alot like Goghan(sp)............don't like too much. reminds me of
bad 70's "hippy" art (aka "Yellow Submarine").

Rick Hohensee

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Dec 30, 2005, 2:11:35 AM12/30/05
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In article <LXWsf.683832$xm3.488560@attbi_s21>,

GW Chimpzilla <g...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Captain Compassion wrote:
>
>> 01- Millais - The Blind Girl
>> 02- Vermeer - Girl With a Pearl Earring
>> 03- Rubens - Daniel in the Lions Den
>> 04- Dongen - Corn Poppy
>> 05- Homer - The Morning Bell
>> 06- Van Gogh - Starry Night
>> 07- Renoir - Bather arranging her hair 1893
>
>Nah. Luncheon of the Boating Party is better
>
>http://www.wksu.org/news/images/17983/Renoir-Luncheon.jpg
>
>But top 10 paintings are kinda weird.
>
>Cubism is nothing unless you get to see the actual paintings....
>

Miro is unreproduceable also. His 'paintings' are very textural.

gaffo

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Dec 30, 2005, 7:56:46 PM12/30/05
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Captain Compassion wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:20:29 GMT, gaffo <ga...@usenet.net> wrote:
>
>
>>gaffo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>8. Fredic Back - "the Man who planted trees" - "the mighty river" -
>>>"Crock" - "All nothing". A Master artist/film maker. French canadian.
>>>(you can only get his works via Radio Canada - I shelled out 100 bucks
>>>for his films (and his works are worth it!)...........if you'd like - I
>>>can make a copy for you, let me know). I cannot stress how good this guy
>>>is and how little he is known.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006UF7NY/qid=1135912698/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5736332-8429749?n=507846&s=dvd&v=glance
>>
>>
>>looks easier and cheaper to get now...........
>>
>>i have it, so let me know :-).
>
>
> Sounds obscure.

only to the mainstream - he's been around for 40 yrs and has won
international awards for both "Man Who Planted Trees" (1988?89?) and the
"Mighty River"

each were handpainted by him and each took 5 or 6 yrs to do.

http://www.awn.com/mag/issue1.4/articles/moritzback1.4.html

http://theoscarsite.com/whoswho6/back_f.htm

> Only thing by this guy on Netflix is Sam & Janet.

He's not offered through NetFlix nor Blockbuster!! (if he was I'd have
never bought it! ;-)...................).

FabDVD does wonders when combined with Blockbuster (which unlike
Netflicks carries the "Brother Cadfeal" series).


- I've not heard of Sam and Janet. My spelling sucks - maybe I spelled
the name wrong.

Frederic Back

George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.

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Dec 31, 2005, 5:43:15 AM12/31/05
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And Thomas Kincaid is art to most of us.

While his stuff makes me howl with laughter - elitism is a guilty
pleasure.

I think the notion here is that some have "taste" which others lack.

And being serious, I actually do think that Jesus-piss guy is a fine
artist.

At least, for me.

And I should add that there are some objective standards - "balance"
stuff like that. I had lunch during college, for a couple years, in a
sculpture garden, with some major pieces, and somehow the aesthetics
sank into my brain, so that now I "know" good sculpture from bad. At
least, my take tracks accepted elitist opinion now.

And I think there is something "real" about the good from the bad.

But there is a lot of subjectivity also. Some of that "good" stuff I
never grew to like. Which I guess is an "error" on my part - if
elitist opinion is the measure.

George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr.

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On 29 Dec 2005 22:15:09 +0100, "Bill Bonde ('Soli Deo Gloria')"
<Pablo....@Il.Postino.it> wrote:

>
>
>"George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr." wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:29:25 -0800, Captain Compassion
>> <dar...@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> In visual art, more than in some of your other categories, beauty is
>> in the eye of the beholder.
>>
>> I like broccoli, former President Bush does not. I think it's a
>> mistake for me to say I'm right and he's wrong.
>>
>I think that former president Bush hasn't had broccoli done right.

Subsequently, science found out - i kid you not - that about ten
percent of us have a genetic trait which makes broccoli taste bitter.

Bush was born wealthy, and surely had access to great cooking.

It
>can have a strong taste, as many green vegetables that are good for you
>can. One bit of fusion cooking is to take steamed or microwave broccoli
>and put parmesan cheese and soy sauce on it. It's sounds weird because
>they are from two widely different cooking cultures but it goes good
>with broccoli.
>

Hey - my wife is a fusion cook and I didn't know it.

She makes it that way all the time, and it is yummy.

>
>
>> There are objective ways to measure, to a degree, the appeal of music.
>> I "know" that Rush Limbaugh is a fool, no matter what others think.
>> That objective truth is not as applicable to broccoli, nor to
>> paintings.
>>
>> But I can tell you that I once saw a painting, across the room, which
>> stunned me, which "spoke" to me with deep thoughts - Rembrandt's
>> Saint Bartholomew at the Getty museum. I heard a compelling,
>> emotionally deep message - that even great material success, and high
>> social standing, fail to compensate for the cruel fact that soon we
>> will die.
>>
>Sounds like a message that gets repeated endlessly, until we die. Art in
>all its forms is about the transitory nature of life, about how you can
>never step into the same stream twice.

Is that right? I never took an art class. But I like the stuff. And I
had a girlfriend who was a groupie to artists - bragged she had slept
with two of America's top ten artists. And she was paid by a S and L
to buy paintings for them. And she took me to artists homes - and said
I invariably walked right to the best art in the place.

So I track elitist opinion somehow.

So maybe there is something objective in visual art.

But...if folks like thomas kincaid, I'm not ready to say they're
wrong.

Though his stuff makes me howl with laughter.

That's just me - I don't like it, Bush doesn't like broccoli.


gaffo

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Dec 31, 2005, 10:24:12 AM12/31/05
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George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr. wrote:

> And I should add that there are some objective standards - "balance"
> stuff like that. I had lunch during college, for a couple years, in a
> sculpture garden, with some major pieces, and somehow the aesthetics
> sank into my brain,


nice college!!

all we had were a few statues of Confederate Generals and thier
President on the 6-pack lawn!

I wondered how they had survived into the 1990's, and if they are still
there (PC being what it now is (more important than history)).

Captain Compassion

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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:43:15 -0800, "George Leroy Tyrebiter, Jr."
<tyre...@mooresciencehigh.edu> wrote:

The artwork is called Piss Christ by Andres Serrano.

>At least, for me.
>
>And I should add that there are some objective standards - "balance"
>stuff like that. I had lunch during college, for a couple years, in a
>sculpture garden, with some major pieces, and somehow the aesthetics
>sank into my brain, so that now I "know" good sculpture from bad. At
>least, my take tracks accepted elitist opinion now.
>
>And I think there is something "real" about the good from the bad.
>
>But there is a lot of subjectivity also. Some of that "good" stuff I
>never grew to like. Which I guess is an "error" on my part - if
>elitist opinion is the measure.
>

--

Rich Travsky

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Captain Compassion wrote:
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> 01- Millais - The Blind Girl

His Bridesmaid is far, far better

Captain Compassion

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On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 00:01:15 -0700, Rich Travsky <"
traRvEsky"@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote:

>Captain Compassion wrote:
>>
>> 01- Millais - The Blind Girl
>
>His Bridesmaid is far, far better

Wonderful. More red hair then I've seen in a painting.

youse...@gmail.com

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