The Scarlet Red Beast
Dana
SOCIALISM
The Scarlet Red Beast
Don't you believe Communism is dead!
Marx and Lenin never had it so good.
Even in the West, this prophecy is frighteningly true!
By Ken Raggio
A Resurrection of Socialism. or maybe it never died?
When the Berlin Wall fell, the USSR disbanded, and the iron curtain was
removed, headlines around the world screamed, "Communism is Dead."
But a closer inspection of what really happened contradicts that conclusion.
Even though Mikhail Gorbachev was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for
triggering the "Velvet Revolution" in which hard-line Communism appeared to
suffer a fatal blow, the facts are not so impressive.
In an interview with Time magazine six months later, Gorbachev contradicted
the popular notion that the Velvet Revolution was the death of socialism, by
saying that was the "farthest thing from the truth."
If believing the Velvet Revolution was the death of Communism "was the
farthest thing from the truth," then what IS the truth?
Was the Velvet Revolution in fact the TRIUMPH of socialism?
"We are not retreating from socialism but we are moving toward it."
In June, 1990, Gorbachev told Time, "Often people ask where we are going,
whether we are retreating from socialism or moving toward socialism.
Our point.is to make good on the potential of the socialist idea. The very
fact that I am saying this is further proof that I am a convinced socialist.
I am a communist. I'm sure that doesn't make you too enthusiastic, but it
shouldn't make you panic either. It's quite normal."
He continued, "As we dismantle the Stalinist system, we are not retreating
from socialism but are moving toward it."
Socialism - Prelude to Trouble?
The first socialism was in Germany in 1863, in the form of a workers' party.
By 1870, most European countries had a socialist party.
When the Bolshevik Revolution took place in Russia in 1917, the
philosophical dispute was over how fast Socialism should take over --
gradually or by revolution.
The revolutionists won. V. I. Lenin and Leon Trotsky became god-like heroes.
The Proletariat, the labor unions, and the Socialist parties were the hot
topics.
Unfortunately, the socialist uprising early in this century was a prelude to
World Wars I & II, the Russian Revolution, totalitarianism, Stalinism,
Hitler's rise to power, the Cold War, the Chinese Cultural Revolution -- all
this entailing tens of millions of deaths.
The New Revolution
The first socialistic takeover was imposed on the world through revolution.
But the modern socialist revolution is advancing very rapidly in a different
way.
Through convincing an electorate that has been re-educated persistently over
the last fifty years, this socialism is being dubbed "Democratic Socialism"
or neo-socialism.
"If Socialism is dead, why won't it lie down?"
Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and CEO of News Corp., one of the world's largest
news agencies, spoke to a recent Forbes CEO conference and made this
statement, "If Socialism is dead, why won't it lie down?"
In his speech, entitled, "The New Class: Reinventing Socialism," Murdoch
said, "Socialism is not dead, but alive and well and living in the
regulatory agencies."
The "New Class" he refers to is the massive collective of government
bureaucrats, media moguls and journalists, lawyers, politicians, academia
and the super-rich who become a powerful special interest group, much like
the high-powered insiders of Stalin and Hiltler's regimes.
Less than 20% of the population controls the nation's destiny, and enjoys
its wealth, while the other eighty percent have little or no say in their
affairs.
Neosocialism
Classic communism meant public ownership of the means of production,
distribution, and exchange.
"Socialism in that sense is dead. No one talks about nationalizing
industries any more.
No one has to nationalize industries -- because the extraordinary growth of
regulation has given effective control of them to the government without its
having to assume the hassle of ownership.
Socialism has effectively reinvented itself. We can call it 'Neosocialism.'
And it's right here under our nose," Murdoch said. The rise of the New Class
is ominous.
The "Post Capitalist Society"
Ironically, Peter Drucker wrote in "Post Capitalist Society," "If socialism
is defined, as Marx defined it, as ownership of the means of production by
the employees, the United States has become the most "socialist" country
around."
He was referring to the fact that employee pension plans now constitute a
huge segment of the stock market.
But in the final analysis, it is NOT the common man that rules in
neosocialism.
It is the faceless, anonymous investment analysts and managers - members of
the NEW CLASS.
The New Class means Capitalism has not Triumphed
Murdoch explained, "The New Class is also a party political phenomenon. Many
commentators are puzzled by the success of Center-Left parties -- in
Britain, the United States, Canada -- at a time when capitalism was supposed
to have triumphed. Well, one answer is that capitalism has not triumphed.
Neosocialism is triumphing. And the parties that are most firmly based on
the new social force that underlies it are reaping the benefits."
Regulation through the Media
Noam Chomsky, in "What Uncle Sam Really Wants" said, "The cultural managers
(editors, leading columnists, etc.) share class interests and associations
with state and business managers and other privileged sectors. There is, in
fact, a regular flow of high-level people among corporations, government and
media."
Regulation through Litigation
Again, Murdoch observed, "Here in the U.S., of course, we have a
characteristically American touch: regulation through litigation.
Trial lawyers (with a little help from the way legislators write the laws)
become in effect private vigilantes, enforcing neosocialist writ. It takes a
lawyer -- a whole village of lawyers -- to create the ludicrous situations
we now see."
Westerners falsely assume that global civilization is moving toward a way of
life similar to the American Dream -- home and car ownership, private
enterprise, freedoms of religion, speech and press, political choices, and
so forth.
But gigantic corporate mergers result in the absorption of whole industries
into the hands of a few heavily-regulated mega-corporations.
The individual is getting smaller and smaller. Even religious freedoms are
being legislated against in America, Russia, Germany, Israel, and all around
the world.
The spread of socialism worldwide is truly alarming.
The Great Deception constantly being peddled in the media and press in the
West constantly declare that Communism has fallen, the Cold War is over, and
free market economics are the wave of the future.
But pernicious symptoms of socialism exist worldwide: extreme taxation and
crushing regulations.
Pernicious Symptoms: Taxation and Regulation
Taxation in most Developed Nations is around 50% of earnings - proof that
the state has already confiscated and controls a huge part of our perceived
freedoms.
In Stockholm, Sweden, for instance, Municipal taxes are 30%, National taxes
are 25 %, Social Security taxes add another 5.95%, for a total taxation of
61% of income! Wealthy Swedes are immigrating to other countries to avoid
going broke. Japans' taxation is around 64%.
The Chart at right lists fifteen of the largest national economies in the
world, and reveals that all have taxation rates between 40% and 60%, nearly
ALL over 50%.
European Socialism
"In the European Union alone, thirteen of the fifteen countries are governed
by a center-left (socialist minded) administration, or by a coalition that
includes the center-left," (The European, 6/11/97); Austria, Belgium,
Denmark, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands,
Portugal, Sweden, UK.
Significantly, Paris and London are now both controlled by Socialists.
The European Union is moving toward a single currency. And, "it was senior
socialist politicians - above all Francois Mitterand and Jacques Delors -
who drew up the single currency blueprint in the first place," said Hilary
Clark, in The European Magazine.
UN hosts the Socialists International Congress
The United Nations is controlled by Socialists.
The United Nations has always been predominately Socialist.
Every Secretariat-General since its inception has been Socialists.
Socialist nations are the overwhelming majority.
The Twenty Second Congress of the Socialists International was held in 1997
in the United Nations building itself, with the most powerful, elite, and
influential socialists in the world in attendance. Shimon Peres of Israel is
one of its Vice Presidents.
Socialism is the regime of the Antichrist -- a scarlet colored beast.
Peter Drucker cynically calls socialism, "Salvation by Society."
This red beast cannot save mankind, however.
In fact, the Bible clearly shows that it is the color of the government of
the Antichrist.
John tells us in Revelation 17:3,4, "So he carried me away in the spirit
into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a SCARLET COLORED BEAST,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman
was arrayed in purple and scarlet color."
The scarlet beast is the world government from which the Antichrist will
ascend.
The woman riding the beast is the Great Whore -- the false religion of the
last days.
Take note that not only is the beast scarlet colored, but the woman who
rides the beast is also wearing scarlet color.
Red Socialism in Catholicism
In 1931, Pope Pius XI said, "Whether considered as a doctrine, or as an
historical fact, or as a movement, Socialism, if it really remains
Socialism, cannot be brought into harmony with the dogmas of the Catholic
church. Religious Socialism, Christian Socialism, are expressions implying a
contradiction in terms."
But things have changed unbelievably. Today, the Jesuits of the Catholic
Church are among the most vocal revolutionary Socialists in the world,
peddling their Liberation Theology from the jungles of Central America to
the Congress Halls of Washington D.C.
In "Windswept House," Malachi Martin claims that Socialists now dominate the
Magisterium, the Vatican Hierarchy.
Catholics and Communists are strange bedfellows, but it had to be, because
the Bible prophesied that the woman would wear red!
Socialism around the world
Today, Socialism dominates Russia, Georgia, Lithuania - all the Slavic
states. Communism still controls more than one billion Chinese, North
Koreans, and Eastern Asians. Socialism is all over Europe.
Since World War II, virtually of all the colonies and nations of Africa,
Central and South America have converted to socialism.
In this year's elections, both London and Paris voted in Socialist
governments.
The reason most Americans do not realize the penetration of socialism
worldwide is because it usually comes with other political names.
In Britain, it is Tony Blair's Labour Party. In Germany, it is Chancellor
Gerhard Schroeder and Social Democrats and their allies, the Greens, in the
United States, it is in the Labor Unions, the Democratic Party, the
Liberation Theology of the Roman Catholic Church, and of course, the
Communist and Socialist Parties!
In South Africa, it is Nelson Mandela, in Nicaragua, it is the Sandinistas,
in Haiti it is Aristide. World-wide, socialism is spreading in the "greens,"
the environmentalists, and the most of liberal extremism.
Chairman Mao said, "Put politics in command."
The names change, but the theories stay the same.
Americans think that anything with the names "Democratic" or "Republic"
means "our way." Wrong! There are "Democratic Socialists" and "Socialist
Republics" galore.
Just because a nation gets to go to the polls and elect their leaders does
not mean that they have a real choice to elect from. Socialism is getting
its airing under many different guises.
Varying mixes of capitalism and state control, land reforms, centralized
economic planning, often through a one-party state continue to creep into
international politics.
A quick appraisal of the geo-political landscape around the world reveals
the fact that Socialism is swallowing up the nations of the world.
At the present, about seventy-two nations are experiencing upheavals of war.
In the majority of cases, Socialism is at least one of the major forces at
issue. (Islam is the second.)
In several cases, the outcome will ultimately be determined by United
Nations "peacekeeping" forces. And since the UN is predominately
Socialistic, we can be certain that socialism will finally prevail in them
all.
Why? Because the Bible says that the endtime world government has to be RED!
--
To legislate and litigate tolerance, in my estimation, only forces employers
and landlords to do that with which they are not comfortable and their
discomfort is transferred to our cause because they have been forced to do
something against their will.
Opinion by Scott Evertz
Non-Republicrat voter
>http://www.kenraggio.com/KRPN-SocialismRed.htm
>SOCIALISM
>The Scarlet Red Beast
>
>
>Don't you believe Communism is dead!
>Marx and Lenin never had it so good.
>Even in the West, this prophecy is frighteningly true!
>By Ken Raggio
>
Commies under the bed again, eh?
Johann von Tebbes
"Dana" <raf...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3ae15...@news2.meganetnews.com...
> http://www.kenraggio.com/KRPN-SocialismRed.htm
> SOCIALISM
> The Scarlet Red Beast
>
>
> Don't you believe Communism is dead!
> Marx and Lenin never had it so good.
> Even in the West, this prophecy is frighteningly true!
> By Ken Raggio
>
> A Resurrection of Socialism. or maybe it never died?
>
> When the Berlin Wall fell, the USSR disbanded, and the iron curtain was
> removed, headlines around the world screamed, "Communism is Dead."
>
> But a closer inspection of what really happened contradicts that
conclusion.
>
> Even though Mikhail Gorbachev was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for
> triggering the "Velvet Revolution" in which hard-line Communism appeared
to
> suffer a fatal blow, the facts are not so impressive.
Ronald Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear DOWN this wall"
Gorby eased up the hold the USSR had on Eastern Europe,
the wall came down, the 'evil empire' came down, the world
rejoiced and prospered.
Thank you and God bless you Mr. Reagan.
Maybe if we can keep the Socialist Democrats (Gore, Gephart, Bonior, Shumer,
Feinstein, Coumos, Dashles, etal) out of power for a few more years we can
keep communism in a state of dormancy for some time to come.
Johann von Tebbes
"Non-Republicrat voter" <bye...@demopublicans.com> wrote in message
news:908A348...@news.verio.net...
The natural right to one's defence of himself, loved ones and property was
recognized by the writers of the constituion, therefore for this right to
be repealed would take another amendment to the constitution.
"The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall NOT be
infringed" is the operating statement in this amendment. There
is NO requirement to be connected to any militia organization to
enjoy this 'natural right'.
People who are in power and are demanding registration of firearms
know that it will lead to confiscation and that is what they desire.
That is their goal, make no mistake about it. Their supporters among
the populace are naive and trust elected and appointed people with
the most important aspect of their life...freedom!
Join the NRA - Your freedom's friend.
1-800-672-2000
If hearing impaired
1-800-672-8331
Connie
responding to one of Dana's notes!
"Non-Republicrat"? Does that make you a supporter of the Buchanite Reform
Party or the Nadarite Green Party. Both seemed equally anti-both parties
during the campaign!
By the way, just in case you're not one of the Greenies, you might want to
check out the Green Party, USA platform:
http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html
Here's a little sample of some of the Green Party's planks:
<Quotes>
Democratic Production: Establish the right of citizens
to vote on the expansion or phasing out of products and industries,
especially in areas of dangerous or toxic production.
Workplace Democracy: Establish the right of workers at
every enterprise over 10 employees to elect supervisors and managers and to
determine how to organize work.
.. Democratic Conversion of Big Business: Mandatory break-up and conversion
to democratic worker, consumer, and/or public ownership on a human scale of
the largest 500 US industrial and commercial corporations that account for
about 10% of employees, 50% of profits, 70% of sales, and 90% of
manufacturing assets.
. Democratic Conversion of Small and Medium Business: Financial and
technical incentives and assistance for voluntary conversion of the 22.5
million small and medium non-farm businesses in the US to worker or consumer
cooperatives or democratic public enterprises. Mandate that workers and the
community have the first option to buy on preferential terms in cases of
plant closures, the sale or merger of significant assets, or the revocation
of corporate charters.
Democratic Banking: Mandatory conversion of the 200 largest banks with 80%
of all bank assets into democratic publicly-owned community banks. Financial
and technical incentives and assistance for voluntary conversion of other
privately-owned banks into publicly-owned community banks or consumer-owned
credit unions.
Maximum Income: Build into the progressive income tax a
100% tax on all income over ten times the minimum wage.
..... the US should finance universal access to primary education, adequate
food, clean water and sanitation, preventive health care, and family
planning services for every human being on Earth
<End Quotes>
Now keep in mind, Non-Republicrat, that that's not Dana talking. And it's
not Ken Raggio, author of the piece Dana posted, talking. The above quotes
are, as they say, straight from the horse's mouth.
Quoting from Dana's post, here's a bit of what Ken Raggio, said about
"neosocialism":
<Quote>
Classic communism meant public ownership of the means of production,
distribution, and exchange.
"Socialism in that sense is dead. No one talks about nationalizing
industries any more.
No one has to nationalize industries -- because the extraordinary growth of
regulation has given effective control of them to the government without its
having to assume the hassle of ownership.
Socialism has effectively reinvented itself. We can call it 'Neosocialism.'
And it's right here under our nose," Murdoch said. The rise of the New Class
is ominous.
<End Quote>
Do you still think Dana has "Commies (hiding) under (his) bed"? C...
Non-Republicrat voter wrote in message <908A348...@news.verio.net>...
Connie
"Non-Republicrat" who seems to think you have "Commies hiding under the
bed". It would be hard not to detect the Marxian tone of the Green Party
USA platform, a hit of which I excerpted in my note to Non-Republicrat.
http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html
These folks think noone should earn more than 10 times the minimum wage.
that workers should choose their own supervisors and managers, that the
large US industrial and commercial corporations should be turned over to
"the people" and that, for now at least, small businesses should
voluntarily convert to control by "the people". As in, down with
capitalism.. up with the People's Republic of America!! C...
By the way, if you've never read F.A. Hayek's, "The Road to Serfdom"
0226320618/o/qid=9
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0226320618/o/qid=941703451/sr=2-1/102
-8380011-307206 ,
You might want to check that one out.
Here's a bit of review/synopsis from that Web site:
<Quote>
Review
...Hayek's warning against the dangers of state control over the means of
production was not heeded when it was first published in 1944. He discusses
individualism and collectivism, economic control and totalitarianism, and
the socialist roots of Naziism. This 50th anniversary edition includes an
introduction commenting on the rise of socialism after WWII and the
transitions from communism to capitalism in Eastern Europe, plus three
prefaces from previous editions.....
Synopsis
This classic by one of the 20th century's leading libertarian thinkers has
established itself beside the works of Orwell and others as a timeless
meditation on the relationship between human freedom and government
authority. Hayek argues that empowering government with increasing economic
control leads not to utopia but to horrors such those seen in Nazi Germany.
<End Quote>
C,,,
Dana wrote in message <3ae15...@news2.meganetnews.com>...
>The New Revolution
>Neosocialism
>The "Post Capitalist Society"
>Regulation through the Media
>Regulation through Litigation
>European Socialism
>Red Socialism in Catholicism
>Socialism around the world
>To legislate and litigate tolerance, in my estimation, only forces
gryb
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http://www.chch.school.nz/csta/environ.htm
http://www.chch.school.nz/csta/links/environment.html
http://www.coloradoearthday.org/
http://www.earthdaycoalition.org/
http://www.earthdayonline.org/
http://www.enn.com/news/enn-stories/2001/04/04162001/energyfast_43049.asp
http://www.epa.gov/region09/earthday/index.html
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http://www.pbs.org/neighborhoods/nature/#top
http://www.sdearthtimes.com/edn/
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http://envirolink.netforchange.com/earthday/index.html
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gryb
_________________________________________________________
Is on Sunday, April 22, 2001.
From clean-ups and hikes to liturgies and fairs powered by
solar energy, people all over the United States will be making
a difference on Earth Day 2001 !
People of diverse faiths will come together in San Francisco,
California for an interfaith liturgy at Grace Cathedral affirming
the sacredness of the Earth.
It will feature a procession, waters of the world ceremony,
blessings by spiritual leaders, and musical performances.
In Sherwood Forest, Maryland four schools will plant 500 globally
threatened Atlantic White Cedar trees in a recently restored cedar
wetland.
The planting will result in the largest forest in the Western
Hemisphere.
Crowds will gather on Grandfather Mountain in North Carolina,
the second highest peak in the state, for a festival powered
in part by wind and solar energy.
The "Energy and the Environment" conference in Amherst,
Massachussetts will bring policymakers, scientists, technologists,
activists, and members of the public together to discuss impacts
of our energy use on the environment.
A downtown block will be shut off in Louisville, Kentucky, to make
room for an environmental street fair and benefit concert.
On April 19th, 2001, youth from all areas of Los Angeles will
stand hand in hand to form a giant Clean Energy "Go Solar"
aerial art message.
_________________________________________________________
There will be Earth Day events in every State of the USA.
Check out the events in your State :
_________________________________________________________
rose...@rapidnet.com
had a clue:
>just drivel he's cribbed from right wing sources in an effort to
>propagndize the groups to death. The guy has no life.
Wrong Zepper.
He's got me.
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clue:
>
>"Non-Republicrat voter" <bye...@demopublicans.com> wrote in message
>news:908A348...@news.verio.net...
>> raf...@hotmail.com (Dana) wrote in <3ae15...@news2.meganetnews.com>:
>>
>> >http://www.kenraggio.com/KRPN-SocialismRed.htm
>> >SOCIALISM
>> >The Scarlet Red Beast
>> >
>> >
>> >Don't you believe Communism is dead!
>> >Marx and Lenin never had it so good.
>> >Even in the West, this prophecy is frighteningly true!
>> >By Ken Raggio
>> >
>> Commies under the bed again, eh?
>--
>The natural right to one's defence of himself, loved ones and property was
>recognized by the writers of the constituion, therefore for this right to
>be repealed would take another amendment to the constitution.
>
>"The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall NOT be
>infringed" is the operating statement in this amendment. There
>is NO requirement to be connected to any militia organization to
>enjoy this 'natural right'.
The right to "defend" yourself does not automatically mean with a fucking gun,
you abnormal idiot.
And the "infringement" you stupidly mischaracterize is that of the STATE to
"defend", .....at the time, in the absense of a standing National army. There
has NEVER been a doctrine read into the 2nd amendment that presupposes that
INDIVIDUALS cannot be "infringed" upon by regulations, laws, and control.
>People who are in power and are demanding registration of firearms
>know that it will lead to confiscation and that is what they desire.
By what evidence, you fuckwit?
>That is their goal, make no mistake about it.
HOW do you know that? Because some drunken has-been actor
says so?
>Their supporters among
>the populace are naive and trust elected and appointed people with
>the most important aspect of their life...freedom!
Your freedom came from those who devised the constitution, incorporating a set
of rules that everyone follows. '
It has NEVER been a doctrine that an individual gets to unilaterally interpret
what the constitution says.
rose...@rapidnet.com
clue:
>Ronald Reagan said, "Mr. Gorbachev, Tear DOWN this wall"
ronald mcreagan merely READ the words, you dumb asshole. He didn't have the
intellectual ability to do that on his own.
>Thank you and God bless you Mr. Reagan.
Yea, thanks for resurgent racism, greed, homophobia, LYING to America about
the failing economy, LYING about selling arms to America's enemies, LYING
about using the White HOuse as a money laundering headquarters, LYING about
subversion of constitutional government, LYING to congress, LYING about
supporting death squads in South America, LYING to a Federal Grand Jury,
fomenting anti-government bigotry, fanning the flames of religious "moral"
judgmental crap, making political discourse the WORST in history.
The Truth About Ronald Reagan: A Shallow, Shameless President
Halton Adler Mann in the Houston Chronicle, July 27, 1998
Nonrevisionist analysis is demanded before too much
hagiographic history of Ronald Reagan is engraved in
granite and the 40th president is canonized beyond
truth and endurance in airports, public buildings
and Mount Rushmore.
Now that he is 87 and mentally enfeebled, the
encomiums are coming faster from editorialist
who once excoriated him, their prose revised
to reflect an insufferably sanitized version
of his presidency. Against his relentless tide
of tribute, truth must stand firm.
The truth includes Reagan's anti-communist
zealotry that compelled him to lie in writing
every six months that he certified "progress" in
human rights in El Salvador. That was the absurd,
unilateral "condition" Congress required for
continued US support of fascist terrorism by
the death squads of that tormented country.
Reagan's monomaniacal determination to overthrow
Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua led to subsidizing of
proxy mass murder of thousands of innocents there
by Contra terrorists. Later came the Iran-Contra
scandal, the usurpations of presidential powers
by Oliver North and the selling of armaments for American hostages in Lebanon, impeachable offenses in a non-teflon presidency.
A similar moral famine affected Reagan when he declared that the only alternative in the Philippines to Ferdinand Marcos' reign of terror and murder (he did not characterize it as such) was a communist dictatorship. The peaceful revolution led by the admirable Benigno Aquino's widow Corazon - whose husband was murdered in a public spectacle by Marcos's henchmen - belied Reagan's denial of a democratic movement. Reagan was perfectly willing to keep anti-communist murderers like Marcos in Power.
Although Elie Wiesel importuned him to shun a Nazi cemetery at Bitburg at the request of Michael Deaver and Helmut Kohl, President Reagan went and gave a ludicrous speech. He exculpated the entire German nation for its barbarity, persecution, genocide and war save "one man" he held responsible. Certainly there was a better way to honor Germany's decades of dedication to Democracy in the wake of World War II.
The Reagan Administration supported Saddam Hussein when Iraq invaded America's nemesis Iran, in his eight year war. It led to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, the Persian Gulf War and the present threat of chemical and biological warfare.
Also deleted from Reagan's revisionism is his sending of 230 Marines to their easily avoidable death in what then Senator Sam Nunn, D-Ga. called "Mission Impossible" in Lebanon. The same security measures employed by embassies and banks throughout the world would have prevented the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut.
Reagan's me culpa after the bombing was bought by an American electorate that could never impute anything but the noblest motives to the "Gipper" and could forgive him almost everything.
As George Clemenceau might conclude, history is too serious a matter to be left to editorial writers and columnists. Give Ronald Reagan his due, his leadership of the "revolution" that bears his name. It culminated in Republican control of Congress for the first time in 40 years in 1994. And give him credit for the energy that contributed to - but was far from solely responsible fro - the dissolution of the Soviet Union's hegemony.
Extol his B-movie actor's ability to memorize his lines and deliver them with presidential credibility.
Like him for his affability and personal charm.
But remember and recognize that he was a shallow and shameless president who exploited a nation's need for shallow answers to profound and protracted problems.
History must not permit him to "go gently into that good night" unscathed by scandal, impervious to imperfections, oblivious to the tragedies he wrought, "blind to criticism and deaf to dissent.
Wayne Mann
wrote:
>Dana: Good post. You might want to check out my response to
>"Non-Republicrat" who seems to think you have "Commies hiding under the
>bed". It would be hard not to detect the Marxian tone of the Green Party
>USA platform, a hit of which I excerpted in my note to Non-Republicrat.
>http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html
>
>These folks think noone should earn more than 10 times the minimum wage.
>that workers should choose their own supervisors and managers, that the
>large US industrial and commercial corporations should be turned over to
>"the people" and that, for now at least, small businesses should
>voluntarily convert to control by "the people". As in, down with
>capitalism.. up with the People's Republic of America!! C...
Where has everyone been? Anyone that is not aware the Greens
are Socialists at least have not been paying attention. They are FAR
Left Wing Liberals. They would find Cuba and China too far to the
right for them.
\\/ayne //\ann
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.
-- 10th Amendment to Constitution
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down.
Non-Republicrat voter
en0.news.prodigy.com>:
>Non-Republicrat: I can't believe someone beat Rosell to the draw in
>responding to one of Dana's notes!
>
>"Non-Republicrat"? Does that make you a supporter of the Buchanite Reform
>Party or the Nadarite Green Party. Both seemed equally anti-both parties
>during the campaign!
>
Neither. Actually I lean Libertarian, but am willing to
listen to any candidate while tending to avoid demopublicans.
>By the way, just in case you're not one of the Greenies, you might want to
>check out the Green Party, USA platform:
>http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html
>
>Here's a little sample of some of the Green Party's planks:
><Quotes>
> Democratic Production: Establish the right of citizens
>to vote on the expansion or phasing out of products and industries,
>especially in areas of dangerous or toxic production.
>
[other green party planks snipped]
>
>Do you still think Dana has "Commies (hiding) under (his) bed"? C...
>
Oh good grief. Are you one of those half-blind that can't
see the massive bi-partisan police state built by republicrats
Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan and everyone else sharing thier neo-con
leanings?
The greens, marginalized as they are, seem no more extreme in their
views than the crypto-fascist industial-prison state
cheerleaders in power today.
I don't see commies under the bed. I see Stalinists in office.
Dana
And what makes you think that Bush is a Stalinist?
Lets see some examples of why you think he is a Stalinist?
While Bush is no Libertarian, he is not a Stalinist.
Not a Republican
Then burn a pile of trash. Then burn a pile of some treehugger's trash.
--
nar
<gryb> wrote in message news:v7p2etsg9rgo4jrds...@4ax.com...
Non-Republicrat voter
>"Non-Republicrat voter" <bye...@demopublicans.com> wrote in message
>news:908AB14...@news.verio.net...
>> I don't see commies under the bed. I see Stalinists in office.
>
>And what makes you think that Bush is a Stalinist?
>Lets see some examples of why you think he is a Stalinist?
>While Bush is no Libertarian, he is not a Stalinist.
>
The Shrub? Heh. The Shrub is a puppet, plain and simple.
He lacks the brains/guts to do anything but act as a passive
conduit for the far-right powers behind the throne.
Hell, Stalin was a *genius* compared to the Shrub.
Connie
USA platform's support of collective ownership of American corporations and
a maximum wage of 10 times the minimum wage? C..
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>Earth Day
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Bill
> Dana: Good post. You might want to check out my response to
> "Non-Republicrat" who seems to think you have "Commies hiding under the
> bed". It would be hard not to detect the Marxian tone of the Green Party
> USA platform, a hit of which I excerpted in my note to Non-Republicrat.
> http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html
Is that the platform that Nader/LaDuke were running on? There was a lot of
confusion during the campaign because there are actually two "Green Party"
platforms out there.
Docky Wocky
"Is that the platform that Nader/LaDuke were running on? There was a lot of
confusion during the campaign because there are actually two "Green Party"
platforms out there..."
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Yep! Those are the platforms of the good commies, and the bad commies.
Wayne Mann
wrote:
As far as I know, California being my example, the Green Party
is another name for green Socialists, but most definite Socialist.
They would fit into the very FAR Left Wing Liberals in the Democrat
party. Although I am sure a small percentage of the members don;t
realize how far left the Green party is.