Savage gets outed
Ayn_R_Keey
= Savage just another Lola_Boy from the Right =
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Did Michael Savage used to have sword fights with Allen Ginsberg?
Did Allen decide that Mike was too big of an asshole for even him?
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In an obvious attempt to play a variant
ot the common republican strategy, the "Reagan Defense"
the Savage/Weiner in an interview with the NY Daily News said,
"Maybe I have amnesia, but "I never wrote such a letter."
<http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/90478p-82252c.html>
But, uh Mikey, how did they find there way into the
Stanford University Library's Allen Ginsberg Papers,
Special Collection M0733. Series 1., Box189, Folder40?
Those Stanford Librarians must really fucking hate you, huh?
Maybe one of them is named Todd F.
Maybe you better go back to writing books for dopers?
You could put your UC Berkeley PH.D.
in Nutritional Ethnomedicine to use.
Erowid still loves you!
Hey they already forgot what the fuss was all about!
"Erowid is founded on the belief
that a healthy relationship with psychoactives
is one grounded in balance, where use is part of
an active, intellectual, physical, and spiritual life."
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<http://www.erowid.org/general/about/about.shtml>
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Erowid's review of Michael Savage's book
EARTH MEDICINE EARTH FOOD:
The classic guide to the herbal remedies and wild plants
of the North American Indians
by Michael A. Weiner
can be found here:
<http://www.erowid.org/library/books/earth_medicine.shtml>
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["
...liberalism is a mental disorder that has undermined
our families, our society and our national security.
[...]
It goes back to Rabelais, the French writer, who was the
progenitor of the beatnik and the hippie, who wrote -do
as you will,- if it feels good, do it. What happened is
people believe that hogwash, they don’t believe in any
repression.
All of the ethics I was raised in - which is control
yourself, sacrifice, hard work - was thrown out in the
cultural revolution of the 1960s. The result is the
society we have today, the illiteracy, the illegitimacy,
the degeneracy and the treason.
It all a result of that, the breakdown of society
control promulgated by the radical left of the 1960s,
Allen Ginsberg, Timothy Leary and a few scummy lawyers,
and let’s thrown in Betty Friedan and the feminists.
"]
Michael Savage - Newsmax - 2003.02.01
Michael Savage: Stop the Left From Causing Another 9/11
Jarret Wollstein and Christopher Ruddy
<http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/31/140229.shtml>
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Michael Weiner's letters to Allen Ginsberg:
___________________________________________________________
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|
| March 8, 1970
| Dear Allen:
|
| After speaking to you on the phone about how nice the
| black-white thing is in mountain villages in Fiji, I walked
| downstairs to the school courtyard, where a little known
| black brother looks at me, takes my hand gently,
| we do some old-world Lower East Side finger tricks,
| and he peacefully kisses the back of my hand -
| I do the same for his hand.
|
| I told him about our brief talk, and he says,
| "I must have felt the vibes."
|
| You would probably find a lot to write about in Fiji.
| Colors of garments and people; Marketplaces like Calcutta
| mired with Melanesians ex-Warriors; etc. Reigning
| Colonial Govt. Revoloutionary talk amongst Fijians who
| want Indians out, etc.
|
| Please see enclosed articles & remember that
| you're welcome here.
|
| Michael Weiner
| Botany Dept.
| University of Hawaii
| Honolulu, HI
|_____________________________________________________________
<http://www.radarmagazine.com/intelletter2.gif>
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|
|
| Dec 29, 1970
|
| Dear Allan,
|
| Would you like to read here
| with Ferlinghetti (or solo) on your way
| to Japan?
|
| If yes, please give me about
| 6 weeks notice and your fees, etc.
| Do you want a lead to good places
| to stay in Fiji!
|
| I'm writing a valuable ? to
| 'Earth Medicines-Earth Foods; Plant Remedies
| Drugs and Wild Foods of the Indians of
| North America;
| it will be published by Macmillan
| - 1972 and I hope you can read it
| before - maybe. Chew a few herbs from your
| farm.
|
| Michael Weiner
| 3860 Manoa Road (House E)
| Honolulu, 96822
|_____________________________________________________
<http://www.radarmagazine.com/intelletter1.gif>
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Stanford University Libraries
Department of Special Collections and University Archives
Guide to the Allen Ginsberg Papers, 1937-1994
Collection number: M0733
Series and Container Listing
Series 1. Correspondence, 1942-1994
Correspondence, 1970-1979
Weiner, Michael [Box189, Folder40]
<http://library.stanford.edu/depts/hasrg/ablit/amerlit/ginsberg.htm
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["
Now, the dope-smoking, boy-loving grand dame of '60s
degeneracy didn't seem like the kind of riffraff a
nationally renowned homophobic zealot would have on
his buddy list. But we shouldn't have been so
surprised. In Savage's thinly veiled confessional
novel Vital Signs, the protagonist admits he is
allured by "masculine beauty", saying, "I choose to
override my desires for men when they swell in me,
waiting out the passions like a storm, below decks.
More intriguing is the reported existence of a picture
of Savage and Ginsberg swimming naked together in
Fiji." These days, of course, Savage is more prone to
saying, "The gay and lesbian mafia wants our
children!" Ah, the innocence of youth.
"]
Radar Magazine 2003.06.09
<http://www.radarmagazine.com/freshintelligence.html#>
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["
Will the real Mike Savage please stand up? Rising star
of savage talk radio, Savage (also known as Michael
Weiner) wasn't always the ranting homophobe he either
is now or is pretending to be, says Radar magazine. On
the radio, he plays on the fears of the ill-informed.
("The gay and lesbian mafia wants our children," is a
sample.)
But Radar says that in his youth he was friends with
the celebrated gay poet Allen Ginsberg and once posed
naked with him while swimming in Fiji. (Allegedly,
there's a photo to prove it.) Writing to Ginsberg,
Weiner talked about the "nice black-white thing" in
Fiji's mountain villages, mentioning a "black brother"
who "takes my hand gently, we do some old-world Lower
East Side finger tricks, and he peacefully kisses the
back of my hand -- I do the same for his hand." In a
novel, "Vital Signs," Weiner's male protagonist says
he feels the allure of "masculine beauty."
We liked Weiner better before he hit the airwaves as
Savage, but peace and love don't sell as well in
America. If he'd continued to be tolerant, would he be
famous?
"]
Seattle Post-Intelligencer - 2003.06.09
Homophobe act could be just that
<http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/people/125471_people09.html>
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Well that’s the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It’s a mixed up muddled up shook up world except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well I left home just a week before
And I’d never ever kissed a girl before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said dear boy I’m gonna make you a man
The Kinks - "Lola"
Ray Cyst
> Erowid's review of Michael Savage's book
>
> EARTH MEDICINE EARTH FOOD:
> The classic guide to the herbal remedies and wild plants
> of the North American Indians
> by Michael A. Weiner
>
> can be found here:
>
> <http://www.erowid.org/library/books/earth_medicine.shtml>
From the above page:
"...he is currently (sic) Executive Director of the Alzheimers
Research Institute, Mill Valley, California."
Am I to believe that they changed their name to the Paul Revere
Society overnight?
Ayn_R_Keey
AKA <tommy...@yahoo.com> wrote
in<news:587a6225.03070...@posting.google.com)>
i cannot swear to it, but i believe that i read somewhere
recently, while researching the savage/wiener, that the Alzheimers
Research Institute, Mill Valley, California was an organisation
started by Weiner himself, and had some sort of foo-foo new age
herbal remedy taint to it. Pretty easy to become the Executive
Director of an Organisation that one creates isn't it?
If i come across the reference, i'll post it here. no promises
though since i'm off on other far-flung points of rhetoric.
if you really need the ref try:
<http://www.michaelsavagesucks.com/>
<http://www.savagestupidity.com>
<http://takebackthemedia.com>
<http://pub99.ezboard.com/fmichaelsavagefrm2>
it could of been from these fine anti-savage sites
that i obtained this info.
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