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William Walker

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Feb 16, 2005, 11:13:04 PM2/16/05
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I am calling for Australia to be converted from a country to be the 51st
state for the United states of America.

I am so impressed with George W Bush as the president of USA, Howard can be
governor of the USA 51st state, Australia.

We are so lucky in this world to have John Howard and George W Bush.
without them the boat people, criminals and terrorists would have taken over
the world.

So Habib may yet be punished again.

William Walker


John Smith

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Feb 16, 2005, 11:54:00 PM2/16/05
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Subject:* IRAQ 51st state of America
Well you will have to goto ""IRAQ"" See ya later Ya Rag Head sympathizer
Iraq, For All Practical Purposes, Will Become America's 51st State. In More
Ways Than One.
It's hard to separate fact from propaganda about how our forces are faring
in Iraq.
But it's pretty clear that the Bush Cartel ramped up both the speed of the
attack and the intensity of "victorious" public relations coming out of its
propaganda headquarters in Qatar.
One thing is sure, however: Iraq is far, far from conquered.
Nonetheless, the Observer (London) is reporting that "the US is ready to
install the first leg of an interim government for the new Iraq as early as
Tuesday, even while fighting still rages in Baghdad."
(See: http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,930794,00.html)
Why would the Bush Cartel declare an "interim government" when the war is
far from over?
First of all, it's a classic Karl Rove tactic. When questions are being
raised about the capabilities or veracity of the Bush Cartel, shift the
attention of the public to something that either scares them half to death
or is so upbeat that it drowns out any criticisms.
(Just call it the manic/depressive Grand Hypocrisy Party propaganda
strategy.)
Not that anyone is rooting for Saddam Hussein, but a lot of generals and
former CIA intelligence officers were calling into question the military
strategy of Bush and Rumsfeld. It was a war plan put together by people with
no combat experience, including the cowardly chickenhawks Bush and Cheney,
who believed that they knew better how to run a war than the actual generals
with battlefield experience. It was the ultimate Neo-Con hubris.
The second reason for the premature creation of a U.S. run administration in
Iraq can be found in what happened in Florida while Al Gore was disputing an
election that he won nationally by more than 540,000 votes.
It started when Gore's lawyers first challenged the vote and asked that
Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris refrain from certifying any
results until the vote challenges were resolved. A colorful lobbyist for the
Jeb Bush corporate cronies, Mac Stipanovich, was called in to be Katherine
Harris's "handler." The Bush Cartel was worried that the ditzy Harris might
actually follow established legal procedure and thus hold up George W's
ascent to the White House. In short, she might not keep advancing the
football down the field. (If the Bush Cartel doesn't convert on a fourth
down, it still holds on to the ball anyway. The Bush Cartel doesn't believe
in playing by the rules. But it doesn't really matter, because, as the
Supreme Court evidenced in 2000, the Bush Cartel owns the referees anyway.
So they don't have to steal a fifth down, the referees (judges) will just
give it to them.)
"You have to bring this election in for a landing," Stipanovich told Harris,
according to Jeffrey Toobin's book on the Florida recount, "Too Close to
Call." No legal niceties -- such as one-person, one-vote -- would get in the
way of George W. Bush taking over the White House. Just "bring this election
in for a landing."
Move the ball down the field, own the referees, and declare victory --
that's the Bush modus operandi.
And so the Bush Cartel, with the Iraq War far from over, is bringing the
"war in for a landing." As in Florida, when Bush met with his "transition
staff" and dropped names of potential cabinet appointees while the election
was still being contested, the Bush Cartel is now going to "assume
governmental" control of Iraq. Just replace Al Gore with the U.N. here. This
action will pre-empt U.N. involvement in a "transitional government" by
creating "a fact on the ground."
One thing that you can say for the Bush Cartel, they don't vary from their
standard "playbook."
So now, as in Florida, declare that you are the government and just keep
barreling down the field. All those U.N. wimps can just slobber as the big
boys from Texas show them how to run a country.
And don't expect the Democrats to mount any criticisms of tactics or
strategy. Once again, all of us think Saddam is a bad man, but there are
still an abundance of questions to be raised about how this war was sold to
the American public and how it was conducted.
In the insightful book ("Bush's Brain") that explores the Machiavellian
thinking of the most powerful man in America, Karl Rove, the authors quote
an unnamed Washington insider:
"It is almost eerie, what Rove has done," one Washington consultant said.
"He dismantled the Democrats so effectively that they just stood there,
dumbstruck. He silenced their opposition with intimidation, picked apart
institutions, just basically destroyed dissent, and he wrapped all of that
in patriotic hues."
Rove's strategy of government by deceit is predicated, as "Bush's Brain"
points out, on the timidity and passivity of the Democratic Party
leadership.
Rove "has created a politics of pretense. Neither Rove nor the Bush
administration give the electorate credit for being sophisticated enough to
call them to account. If they were concerned about being caught, Rove would
reduce the president's exposure to claims of hypocrisy and broken campaign
pledges."
In short, if Bush's credibility became an issue, his entire administration
would be on life support. But the Democrats are entirely ill-equipped to
call into question Bush's veracity, even though the administration's lies
are so overt you could pick them from a tree and eat them for lunch.
Sometimes, the Bush Cartel lies so brazenly and so recklessly, it almost
makes you think that they are just taunting and humiliating the Democratic
Congressional leadership for fun.
The Tom Daschles, Joe Bidens, Dick Gephardts and Joe Liebermans of the world
represent the failed Democratic leadership of mildly dissenting advisers in
a royal court. They may, at times, disagree with the policy of the God King,
but they never challenge his legitimacy or accuse him of lying. They enable
the big lie day after day.
To restore democracy in America -- and win the hearts and minds of
Americans -- the Democrats are going to have to start doing what Karl Rove
has successfully bet that they don't have the guts to do.
If they don't expose Bush's fundamental and chronic lying and hypocrisy, the
Democrats will not return to govern this country, at any level, for years to
come.
The Bush Cartel, as early as Tuesday, may establish a provisional American
government in a foreign country. They, no doubt, will eventually install a
"strong man" dictator to run the country, while creating the public
relations appearance of a "democracy." An actual democracy would be much too
risky for the Bush crowd.
Iraq, for all practical purposes, will become America's 51st state. In more
ways than one.
"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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dechucka

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Feb 16, 2005, 11:57:59 PM2/16/05
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"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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your Australian your mad you'll end up in a Immigration Detention Centre
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Gregory Toomey

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Feb 17, 2005, 12:30:02 AM2/17/05
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Emmigrate.

gtoomey

ferret

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Feb 17, 2005, 2:08:51 AM2/17/05
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I'm sorry to disappoint you but, Israel is the 51st state
without question. We had to settle for being the 52nd state.

Peter

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Feb 17, 2005, 2:37:48 AM2/17/05
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 04:13:04 GMT, "William Walker"
<ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote:

>I am calling for Australia to be converted from a country to be the 51st
>state for the United states of America.
>
>I am so impressed with George W Bush as the president of USA, Howard can be
>governor of the USA 51st state, Australia.
>

No, Australia should be the 51st to 57th states of the USA (merge ACT
into NSW). Compromise would be 51st to 55th states (Tas into Vic and
NT split between Qld and SA). A idea was floated some time back of
extending the USA to include Canada, UK, Irish Republic, Aus and NZ,
the latter states to be would have a stabilising effect on USA
politics.


Kevin V. Russell

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Feb 17, 2005, 4:22:01 AM2/17/05
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"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Ahem,

Canada already is.

And the 52nd is already taken as well.

That's Mexico.

(It's called NAFTA)


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Kevin V. Russell

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Feb 17, 2005, 4:23:30 AM2/17/05
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"dechucka" <dech...@spew.com.uk> wrote in message
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"your" mad?

You criticise my spelling of french and you cannot even spell english?
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Peter

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Feb 17, 2005, 4:24:01 AM2/17/05
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 07:37:48 GMT, pet...@parazzdise.net.nz (Peter)
wrote:

>No, Australia should be the 51st to 57th states of the USA (merge ACT
>into NSW). Compromise would be 51st to 55th states (Tas into Vic and
>NT split between Qld and SA). A idea was floated some time back of
>extending the USA to include Canada, UK, Irish Republic, Aus and NZ,
>the latter states to be would have a stabilising effect on USA
>politics.
>
>

I should have said that it is not desirable for the largest cities to
be state capitals, I suggest Canberra, Mildura, Birdsville, Coober
Pedy and Port Hedland.

Kevin V. Russell

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Feb 17, 2005, 4:24:30 AM2/17/05
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"ferret" <microso...@localhost.microsft.com> wrote in message
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Ah, Jewsrael is actually the 53rd after Canada and Mexico.

We might have to settle for 54th?
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Big Smurf

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Feb 17, 2005, 4:37:10 AM2/17/05
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>
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> Ah, Jewsrael is actually the 53rd after Canada and Mexico.
>
> We might have to settle for 54th?


Totally wrong. Jewsrael has it's territories in middle east as well as
in the west.
US is one of those totally controlled territories

Charles L

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Feb 17, 2005, 4:57:18 AM2/17/05
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"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> I am calling for Australia to be converted from a country to be the 51st
> state for the United states of America.
>
> I am so impressed with George W Bush as the president of USA, Howard can
be
> governor of the USA 51st state, Australia.
>

That would mean Australians would have the right to keep and bear arms. We
couldn't have that could we? That would conflict with Johnny's plan to ban
all the guns in Australia.

> We are so lucky in this world to have John Howard and George W Bush.
> without them the boat people, criminals and terrorists would have taken
over
> the world.
>

Yeah we sure are the poorer for not having the boat people.

Charles L


FRAN

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Feb 17, 2005, 5:46:27 AM2/17/05
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Kevin

1. It's not his spelling that's wrong -- "your" is spelled correctly.
It's his syntax that's awry.

2. We don't know if he can spell "english". Perhaps he can. Of course,
you may have meant to imply that he could not spell *in* English, (or
more precisely, spell consistently according to accepted and
contemporary formal written usage conventions in the particular
language variant) but that idea would have demanded marginally
different syntax, including of course, an initial cap for the name of
the language. Much the same could be said of your use of "french".

3. Spelling and grammar flames are best avoided. Typically, unless one
is very careful to proof what one posts before posting, one's own
departures from formal written usage conventions become the fuel for a
counter-flame.

Fran
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ferret

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Feb 17, 2005, 5:58:46 AM2/17/05
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I suppose that makes sense

Israel is the 1st State and the US has numbers 2 to 51 states.

Peter

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Feb 17, 2005, 6:55:21 AM2/17/05
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man what a horrible troll.

H Dickmann

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Feb 17, 2005, 7:14:02 AM2/17/05
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"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>I am calling for Australia to be converted from a country to be the 51st
>state for the United states of America.

You should get life imprisnment for treason.

David Segall

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Feb 17, 2005, 8:29:01 AM2/17/05
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"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote:

So how are you different from any other traitor? You want to hand over
your country to another one because you admire their leader and their
way of life. That's what many Australian communists wanted. It is
alleged that is what Habib wanted.

Granbob

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Feb 18, 2005, 3:29:56 AM2/18/05
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Peter wrote:
> man what a horrible troll.

Thanks for that information, I was wondering what species he was!

Lionheart

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Feb 18, 2005, 3:43:19 AM2/18/05
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"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>But isnt Canada already fulfilling that position


qr

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Feb 18, 2005, 4:57:43 AM2/18/05
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I want you Wiliam Walker in Guantanamo Bay Camp Delta or in Baghdad NOW !!!

"William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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qr

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Feb 18, 2005, 5:02:21 AM2/18/05
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"Granbob" <gra...@large.com> wrote in message
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> Peter wrote:
>> man what a horrible troll.
>
> Thanks for that information, I was wondering what species he was!
>

www.nt.gov.au/ntsc/doc/ judgements/2002/0/20020306walker.htm

R v William Sydney Walker (sentence)
Sentence - Misuse of Drugs Act

IN THE SUPREME COURT OF THE NORTHERN TERRITORY OF AUSTRALIA


arthur...@hotmail.com

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Feb 18, 2005, 12:04:39 PM2/18/05
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Yeah, Israel is in fact State 0 - that explains why such a large
proportion of those in charge in the USA have family in Israel and use
their positions to support policies that favour Israel, instead of
policies that favour the USA.

One day americans might wake up enough to instigate the civil war they
*really* need : Israel & New York versus all the other enslaved states,
including Mexico, Canada, and the UK.

arthur...@hotmail.com

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Feb 18, 2005, 12:07:22 PM2/18/05
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Right to bear arms?

There is no such right, neither here or there.

The oft-misread amendment I assume you refer to is a document which
details the rights of States to create military formations.

Fairly similar to the constitution of NSW which permits the state to
arm *protestants* if it so wishes...

Charles L

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Feb 19, 2005, 4:52:03 AM2/19/05
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<arthur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Right to bear arms?
>
> There is no such right, neither here or there.
>

There is no such right in Australia and that's what I was referring to. Some
would beg to differ whether there is no such right in America. Why are there
more guns per head of population in America?

> The oft-misread amendment I assume you refer to is a document which
> details the rights of States to create military formations.
>

Again, this is a subject of much debate.

> Fairly similar to the constitution of NSW which permits the state to
> arm *protestants* if it so wishes...
>

Which means absolutely nothing.

By the way, no other rights are guaranteed to Australians which would be if
we were the 51st state.

Charles L


MonkeyHawk

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Feb 19, 2005, 5:25:02 AM2/19/05
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"Charles L" <tj...@dodo.com.au> wrote

[snip]


>> The oft-misread amendment I assume you refer to is a document which
>> details the rights of States to create military formations.
>
> Again, this is a subject of much debate.

But the debate is moot.

The Supreme Court of the United States of America has, time and time again,
ruled that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of
America exists to guarantee the individual states to form state militias.

Charles L

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Feb 19, 2005, 7:17:56 AM2/19/05
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"MonkeyHawk" <monke...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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What decisions were these?

What form does the State Militia take?

Charles L


Thom

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Feb 21, 2005, 2:17:51 AM2/21/05
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 12:17:56 GMT, "Charles L" <tj...@dodo.com.au>
wrote:

actually there were several.


>
>What form does the State Militia take?

The militia is described in the US CODE. Sorry I don't have a link
for you but its there.
>
>Charles L
>
>

Kevin V. Russell

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Feb 20, 2005, 6:14:17 AM2/20/05
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"FRAN" <fran...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And you are illiterate.

"Your" and "You are" and not interchangeable.

Your primary school teachers ought to be ashamed of themsleves.

FYI, I didn't start the "spelling wars".


Ned Latham

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Feb 20, 2005, 11:10:10 PM2/20/05
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David Segall wrote in <7n6911lr7ngp0mqgp...@4ax.com>:

> "William Walker" <ww1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am calling for Australia to be converted from a country to be the
> > 51st state for the United states of America.
> >
> > I am so impressed with George W Bush as the president of USA, Howard
> > can be governor of the USA 51st state, Australia.
> >
> > We are so lucky in this world to have John Howard and George W Bush.
> > Without them the boat people, criminals and terrorists would have

> > taken over the world.
> >
> > So Habib may yet be punished again.
>
> So how are you different from any other traitor? You want to hand over
> your country to another one because you admire their leader and their
> way of life. That's what many Australian communists wanted. It is
> alleged that is what Habib wanted.

So you can't recognise satire when you see it.

Why am I not surprised?

Ned
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