Conservative and liberal upbringings
Patrick Finucane
liberals?
Conservatives are stereotyped, often for good reason, as mean spirited,
racist, environment killing bigots that hold the value of a greenback
more important than a human life. Liberals are viewed as a bunch of
free spirit art lovers that want to share the wealth of others with
everyone else. How could people, born in the same nation, have such
different personalities?
Is it possible that conservatives were raised by two parent families;
the father off at work for long hours and boffing the secretary and the
mother spent more time at teas and civic functions than spending time
with the children? That the kids were taught to fear the Lord, not
celebrate him. That the arts were considered as objects for sissies?
That sex education was disapproved of and that the kids suffered sexual
hangups? That the environment they grew up was sterile and cold and
unloving.
How about the liberals? Were they given free reign at the house? Did
the parents spend more time with them and provide a loving
environment? That they were encouraged to think? That because they
are typically poorer than conservatives they lived amoung diffent races,
ethnics, even sexual persuasions that these things did not become a
focus of their daily lives? That they were taught to go out and have
fun and meet other people and were actively discouraged from fighting.
That their religion taught them love for God and for man?
It is said that racism is a taught trait. I am wondering if being a
conservative or liberal is also a taught trait?
cor...@newsguy.com
> Is it possible that conservatives were raised by two parent families;
> the father off at work for long hours and boffing the secretary and the
> mother spent more time at teas and civic functions than spending time
> with the children? That the kids were taught to fear the Lord, not
> celebrate him. That the arts were considered as objects for sissies?
> That sex education was disapproved of and that the kids suffered sexual
> hangups? That the environment they grew up was sterile and cold and
> unloving.
Nice try, but like many conservatives
I came to it later in life,
as a matter of learning from my experience
and striving to do better.
My parents were good union Democrats
who taught me a knee-jerk loathing of Republicans.
When I went to college, my professors were all
leftists of one variety or another.
I wasn't *taught* to be a conservative. I *learned* it.
This whole question of whether one's upbringing
determines one's thought is exactly the kind of thing
that distinguishes the left from the right.
Leftists like to think that everyone's a victim of their past,
and therefore that no one really has any responsibility
for what they do today.
Conservatives believe in free will and therefore in responsibility.
We believe we are not doomed to always act in the way we were
conditioned to act. We can always choose to act differently.
We can overcome the circumstances of our birth and upbringing,
rise above the injuries that have been done to us.
Because we can choose, the question of *what* we should choose
becomes important. What is a "good" life? Pondering that
question we consider and reject fortune, fame and pleasure,
because they are ultimately unsatisfying. So we are led at last
to what T.S. Eliot called the Permanent Things. We discover our
task in preserving the knowledge and respect for those Things,
and we come to see that mottoes like the Marine Corps'
"Duty, Honor, Country" are not mere platitudes...
John Rower
is is way off base. Seems to me that you are trying to show conservatives as
mean spirited, hatefull people and liberals as compassionate (ie promoting
the liberal way) by being mean spirited and hatefull. Hypocrit are you?
Now for what conservatives are. Conservatives are people from both single
parent and 2 parent homes that believe in the power of the family to raise
the children. Conservatives beleive in freedom to choose to be what you want
to be. Conservatives believe in earning your own way, not taking from
someone elses earnings. Conservatives believe in Americans, not hyphenated
americans. Conservatives believe in people, not colors of skin. You couldn't
have been further from the truth in your post, but then again, you were
trying to fool someone weren't you.
John
"Patrick Finucane" <finu...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Steven D. Litvintchouk
>
> Has there ever been a study of the upbringings of conservatives and
> liberals?
>
that's an oxymoron.
> as mean spirited,
> racist, environment killing bigots that hold the value of a greenback
> more important than a human life. Liberals are viewed as a bunch of
> free spirit art lovers that want to share the wealth of others with
> everyone else.
That is not how many other folks view either philosophy. But no matter,
your distorted impressions don't affect the rest of your question.
> How could people, born in the same nation, have such
> different personalities?
> . . . .
> It is said that racism is a taught trait. I am wondering if being a
> conservative or liberal is also a taught trait?
On the contrary, each new generation tends to rebel AGAINST the morals
and politics of their parents. And each generation is shaped by the
events of its day.
My mother (now deceased) and my father were definitely left-wing. My
father still is a staunch Democrat. And even admires some of what
Castro has "accomplished" in Cuba. My parents grew up in the
Depression, and for them, what FDR did to elevate the country was
nothing short of Holy Writ. And when my parents were growing up in the
1930's, many Jewish political activists were socialists--in the pursuit
of anti-fascism.
But in the poor neighborhood where I grew up in the 1960's, I got to see
firsthand how poor folks were being systematically shortchanged by a
failing public school system and a failed welfare system. (Yes, AFDC
had definitely begun to fail by the time I became politically aware.)
As a child, my very best friend was African-American (we were almost as
close as two brothers), and his family was on welfare. So I got to see
that poor folks can be quite decent, but the system was screwing them
over royally. Also, the Soviet Union had begun to act as the
oppressive, imperialistic superpower that it in fact was; it had lost
its moral appeal to many in the West that it had during the 1930's.
Times change.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: s...@mitre.org
Disclaimer: As far as I am aware, the opinions expressed
herein
are not those of my employer.
rose...@idt.net
>Conservatives beleive in freedom to choose to be what you want
>to be.
But ONLY if it falls within a rigidly standardized christian, fundamentalist
defined, set of morals and principles. Otherwise everything from censors to
bedroom police are waiting to force them upon you.
The conservative agenda is also rooted in a racist, bigoted, homophobic
stricture of morality that they capriciously redefine each time another view
of things needs implementing.
>Conservatives believe in earning your own way, not taking from
>someone elses earnings.
Bullshit. Conservatives believe in social darwinism where the strongest and
most capable get all and ONLY if they deem it in their best interest, do they
"share" with the society that tolerates them.
>Conservatives believe in Americans, not hyphenated
>americans. Conservatives believe in people, not colors of skin.
Again, more bullshit. That's hyperbole and plain outright crap. You can't
call yourself outright racists, so you couch your views in neutral terms.
Everything from Human Nature to the agendas and programs you attempt to
implement (let alone the public historical record of PAST excesses) are
predicated with the tacit understanding that those of less education, less
opportunity, less wealth, and wrong skin color can NEVER achieve the ideal you
promote.
It's a PROVEN FACT, that the structure you envision, does not deter those who
do hold prejudices, racist views, self-serving greedy attitudes, because it
refuses to implement any deterrent to them.
Your drooling turnip made if "okay" to discriminate, to be abusive, to condone
questionable workplace ethics as long as it got him votes. Then you had the
stupidity to allow the RNC to be taken over by a bigoted, homophobic,
extremist religious reich and America went down hill FAST.
>You couldn't
>have been further from the truth in your post, but then again, you were
>trying to fool someone weren't you.
Johnloon. If someone were to pick an "easily fooled" idiot, I couldn't name
an easier mark than you on the usenet.
You are one dumb right wing asshole. You always were.
rose...@idt.net
>On the contrary, each new generation tends to rebel AGAINST the morals
>and politics of their parents. And each generation is shaped by the
>events of its day.
You don't seem to get it stevie
Conservatism is INTENT on NOT rebelling, and maintaining the status quo.
In this case, the "status quo" attempted to be "maintained" is a monumental
attempt to RETURN to pre 60's days when conservatives ran the country.
You DO remember racism, segregation, Jim Crow, civil rights abuses, no
constitutionally protected rights (in state courts), disenfranchisement,
forced sterilizations, lynchings, ........all done by CONSERVATIVE state and
local government. (under big 10 commandment plaques, BTW)
And the "leaders" you've chosen to usher you into this new millineum are OLD.
They are rooted in the 40's 50, ......predominantly PRE-60's .......to a time
when the things they "loved" were RUINING America.
You're supporting a mouldy group of assholes that still rankle because
"gummint" told them they had to integrate. You support idiots that are still
outraged that "immigrants" are allowd to have a voice in government. You
support a generation of right wingers that are the IDENTICAL counterparts to
who we considered a THREAT in the governments of the Soviet Union, China,
Cuba, Iran and Iraq.
You ENTIRE reality is a fucked "rose colored" propagandized flowery version of
idealistic nonsense predicated on what a progressively influenced group of
people in the latter 18th century figured was a better deal than what they'd
been getting.
It ain't 1776, 1865, 1955, anymore, stevie. You can't run a country using
self interpreted emotional crap (that was never intended to be used unchanged)
Conservativism rears it's ugly head once every generation or so (and promptly
gets it's dumb ass kicked). Happened in 1865, 1965, 1992 and it WILL happen
again. Proof????
How many conservative congressmen did you have in 1995?
How many conservative congressmen do you have TODAY?
And if the USSC right wing faction hadn't fucked Florida State preogatives,
you'd not have a presidency either.
Patrick Finucane
> It could be a taught trait, but your ideal of what conservative or liberal
> is is way off base. Seems to me that you are trying to show conservatives as
> mean spirited, hatefull people and liberals as compassionate (ie promoting
> the liberal way) by being mean spirited and hatefull. Hypocrit are you?
No, calling it as I see it.
If I were a good conservative I'd be glad that the White House will contain a
Republican but I'd know myself well enough, and understand human character well
enough, I'd realize gwb is a lightweight coattail rider that I'd have no truck
with a man like him.
If I were a good conservative I'd be against corporate welfare provided by
cities, counties, states, and the federal government that I'd not defend a
lightweight coattailer like shrub.
If I were a good conservative I'd be more than annoyed at Dick Cheney being
aginst clean water.
If I were a good conservative I might want something better than Osprey flying
machines and the supporting of ratholes like Star Wars for our military. If our
military needs a pay raise, I'd sooner see they get a raise than the defense
contractor making unnecessary products of war.
If I were a good conservative I'd go to my church, do my praying, make donations
to my church, and raise my kids according to by my experience and learnings. I
would not want to legislate my religion and morality on others.
I know some good conservatives. They are nothing like the conservatives on
this newsgroup. The ones on this group are of the sick edge of society and are
reflected in their leadership of Rush Limbaugh, Tom Delay, Trent Lott, Dick
Armey, John Ashcroft, Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberston, etc. Many people consider
these leaders emotionally barren and bankrupt. I think they are insane.
Somehow they were made insane. Thus if we were to have a study of what makes a
conservative and what makes a liberal we could change humanity to the better.
James Stutts
<rose...@idt.net> wrote in message news:3a57aaf7....@169.132.11.12...
<snip>
> You DO remember racism, segregation, Jim Crow, civil rights abuses, no
All backed by the Democratic Party, as I recall.
> constitutionally protected rights (in state courts), disenfranchisement,
Of course, the liberals fully support the Bill of Rights..... LOL. Gun
control,
hate crimes laws and propery infringement by the government are all pushed
by your side, Rosell.
> forced sterilizations, lynchings, ........all done by CONSERVATIVE state
and
> local government. (under big 10 commandment plaques, BTW)
>
> And the "leaders" you've chosen to usher you into this new millineum are
OLD.
> They are rooted in the 40's 50, ......predominantly PRE-60's .......to a
time
> when the things they "loved" were RUINING America.
>
Really? Children were better educated and generally had two parents.
Crime
was lower. The drug culture was in the background. Sounds like good times.
> You're supporting a mouldy group of assholes that still rankle because
> "gummint" told them they had to integrate. You support idiots that are
still
> outraged that "immigrants" are allowd to have a voice in government. You
> support a generation of right wingers that are the IDENTICAL counterparts
to
> who we considered a THREAT in the governments of the Soviet Union, China,
> Cuba, Iran and Iraq.
You really ought to lay off the mind-altering substances.
JCS
Leslie Jones
complex.
Conservatives are usually just hard working people with a deep respect for
individual rights and an extreme dedication to responsibility.
cw
Lone Haranguer
Rosita and reality are total strangers.
LZ
Lodi
fundamentalist
> defined, set of morals and principles. Otherwise everything from censors
to
> bedroom police are waiting to force them upon you.
That's not true at all. I am conservative and not a Christian
fundamentalist in the least.
> The conservative agenda is also rooted in a racist, bigoted, homophobic
> stricture of morality that they capriciously redefine each time another
view
> of things needs implementing.
Like the liberals don't redefine reality to suit their needs! Ha! If you
want to see some incredibly racist people,just watch a tape of today's
objections. Maxine Waters needs to either wake up or shut up.
> Bullshit. Conservatives believe in social darwinism where the strongest
and
> most capable get all and ONLY if they deem it in their best interest, do
they
> "share" with the society that tolerates them.
By your logic I would be dead now. I am not the strongest nor am I the most
capable. I don't get all the riches. I am a middle class person trying to
make ends meet like the majority of conservatives. You have a point though,
hard work pays off!!
> Again, more bullshit. That's hyperbole and plain outright crap. You
can't
> call yourself outright racists, so you couch your views in neutral terms.
If you want to see the worst racism look at your own side. Maxine Waters,
the two Jesse Jacksons, Alcee Hastings, Bernice Johnson, Corrine Brown,
Travis Smiley (of BET), the list goes on.
> Everything from Human Nature to the agendas and programs you attempt to
> implement (let alone the public historical record of PAST excesses) are
> predicated with the tacit understanding that those of less education, less
> opportunity, less wealth, and wrong skin color can NEVER achieve the ideal
you
> promote.
Bullshit. Just look at Bush's cabinet, for one. No matter what your
background, hard work pays off! I see it every single day at my white
collar place of business, in fact white people are way outnumbered there and
most upper level managers are minorities.
> It's a PROVEN FACT, that the structure you envision, does not deter those
who
> do hold prejudices, racist views, self-serving greedy attitudes, because
it
> refuses to implement any deterrent to them.
Proven fact? Puh-leeze. Cite?
BTW, predujice, racist view, and self-serving greedy attitude perfectly sums
up people like Maxine Waters.
> Your drooling turnip made if "okay" to discriminate, to be abusive, to
condone
> questionable workplace ethics as long as it got him votes.
How so? Cite?
Then you had the stupidity to allow the RNC to be taken over by a bigoted,
homophobic,
> extremist religious reich and America went down hill FAST.
Bigotry and extremism live in people like Maxine Waters and the others I
mentioned earlier.
> >You couldn't have been further from the truth in your post, but then
again, you were
> >trying to fool someone weren't you.
Physican, heal thyself!
> Johnloon. If someone were to pick an "easily fooled" idiot, I couldn't
name
> an easier mark than you on the usenet. You are one dumb right wing
asshole. You always were.
Of course Rosell has to end every post with name-calling.
Lodi
Holy shit, talk about someone who doesn't get it!
William "Dave" Thweatt
<finu...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Has there ever been a study of the upbringings of conservatives and
> liberals?
>
Well, my wife is a conservative, and will vote Republican as soon as she
gets her citizenship.
The reason for this is that she grew up in the Soviet Union.
--
"If you want to know God's thoughts, first learn His language."
Superdave The Wonderchemist (old nickname from years ago)
Ph.D. Candidate
Theoretical Quantum Chemistry
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105
Bud Keith
Roselle you seem to have a lot to say about everyone else and what morons
they are especially conseratives. Is it your point of view that the only
people that should govern are liberals. Are only your opinions valid? If a
governmet were only composed of liberals how long do you think it would
last?If Russia the great working mans paradise was
an example of the great Socialist dream why did it fail.?
You are forever stating what is wrong with this country(capitalism) what
would you do to make all of the so called wrongs,right?
>
Rogue Warrior
<cor...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> "Patrick Finucane" <finu...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Is it possible that conservatives were raised by two parent families;
> > the father off at work for long hours and boffing the secretary and the
> > mother spent more time at teas and civic functions than spending time
> > with the children? That the kids were taught to fear the Lord, not
> > celebrate him.
why they raise taxes and create marriage penalties
To create a government (villiage) that will raise you child to celebrate a
hedenist value system. It's no wonder that the biggest effect of the war on
poverty/wefare state is illegitimacy, crime, and a flat line to what was a
decresing rate of poverty.
> >That the arts were considered as objects for sissies?
That crucifixes submerged in piss should not be subsides our tax dollars and
thus called art. If it was trully art. It wouldn't need to be subsidised
> > That sex education was disapproved of and that the kids suffered sexual
> > hangups?
Sex education by your crazy definition? No way. I don't want some
ACLU/Nambla Democrat pedophiles telling my kid that it's "OK" to be a pole
smoker. Or that Heather has 2 mommies. Schools should stick to the academic
and quit the leftist indoctrination. If they did that maybe standards would
improve.
I'll teach my kid how to respect women by the way he sees me treat his
mother. I won't expose my kid to "R" rated crap that will confuse him.
He will be raised to be a gentleman and taught about the birds and the bees
in it's proper time by me! Come near my kid with that crap and you'll regret
it!Guaranteed!
That the environment they grew up was sterile and cold and
> > unloving.
>
What planet are you from? You need to get a grip on reality
Patrick Finucane
> <cor...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> This just shows what liberals think of a traditional 2 parent home. That's
> why they raise taxes and create marriage penalties
No, conservatives were raised in cold, loveless homes. Liberals care more about
their children and expose them to life.
> > >That the arts were considered as objects for sissies?
>
> That crucifixes submerged in piss should not be subsides our tax dollars and
> thus called art. If it was trully art. It wouldn't need to be subsidised
So all art is crucifixes dipped in piss? Conservatives just don't 'get' art.
Only sisses appreciate art. Conservatives only admire and respect
greenbacks...more so than human life.
> Sex education by your crazy definition? No way. I don't want some
> ACLU/Nambla Democrat pedophiles telling my kid that it's "OK" to be a pole
> smoker. Or that Heather has 2 mommies. Schools should stick to the academic
> and quit the leftist indoctrination. If they did that maybe standards would
> improve.
So sex educations is the same as introduction to homosexuality 101? No wonder
conservatives are raised in cold, loveless homes...sex is dirty and is only to
be done to have children.
> I'll teach my kid how to respect women by the way he sees me treat his
> mother. I won't expose my kid to "R" rated crap that will confuse him.
> He will be raised to be a gentleman and taught about the birds and the bees
> in it's proper time by me! Come near my kid with that crap and you'll regret
> it!Guaranteed!
If you spent some more time with your kids than boffing the secretary you might
make some sense.
> That the environment they grew up was sterile and cold and
> > > unloving.
>
> What planet are you from? You need to get a grip on reality
I'm from the planet of reality. Take of your blinders and look around.
cor...@newsguy.com
and as a result the attributions have become confused.
For the record, none of what follows was written by me.
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"Patrick Finucane" <finu...@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:3A592C04...@mindspring.com...
jonn...@my-deja.com
Patrick Finucane <finu...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Rogue Warrior wrote:
>
> > <cor...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> > This just shows what liberals think of a traditional 2 parent home.
That's
> > why they raise taxes and create marriage penalties
>
> No, conservatives were raised in cold, loveless homes. Liberals care
more about
> their children and expose them to life.
Conservative children always have somebody to look after and take care
of them. When the father is at work that is the mothers job. When he
comes home from work in the evening he can ask the kids how their day
at school was and give advice when needed. On the weekends the father
uses that time to spend quality time with his children.
> > > >That the arts were considered as objects for sissies?
> >
> > That crucifixes submerged in piss should not be subsides our tax
dollars and
> > thus called art. If it was trully art. It wouldn't need to be
subsidised
>
> So all art is crucifixes dipped in piss? Conservatives just don't
'get' art.
> Only sisses appreciate art. Conservatives only admire and respect
> greenbacks...more so than human life.
His point is that liberals aren't into real art they are into abstract
art. Abstract art can consist of example such as the one above as well
as a painting of the Virgin Mary with elephant dung flung on it.
Abstract art can also be something extremely ridiculous like welding
abunch of tin cans together to form some weird looking structure that
doesn't look like anything. A good example of abstract art would be
Picasso's paintings. They are not real art because they don't look like
anything. They're all just a bunch of colors mixed together into some
stupid looking design that has no shape or form. That is not real art.
> > Sex education by your crazy definition? No way. I don't want some
> > ACLU/Nambla Democrat pedophiles telling my kid that it's "OK" to be
a pole
> > smoker. Or that Heather has 2 mommies. Schools should stick to the
academic
> > and quit the leftist indoctrination. If they did that maybe
standards would
> > improve.
>
> So sex educations is the same as introduction to homosexuality 101?
No wonder
> conservatives are raised in cold, loveless homes...sex is dirty and
is only to
> be done to have children.
It's pretty close to it. Sex is supposed to be a delegate act that
should only be discussed by families behind closed doors. The schools
do not explain it with any type of tact anyway. These are topics that
should not be discussed about in mixed company. BTW, sex is mainly for
procreation. The pleasure that comes with it is just an added bonus
that should only be shared by a man and a woman who are married
together and no one else.
> > I'll teach my kid how to respect women by the way he sees me treat
his
> > mother. I won't expose my kid to "R" rated crap that will confuse
him.
> > He will be raised to be a gentleman and taught about the birds and
the bees
> > in it's proper time by me! Come near my kid with that crap and
you'll regret
> > it!Guaranteed!
>
> If you spent some more time with your kids than boffing the secretary
you might
> make some sense.
Liberals don't believe that parents should spend more time with kids.
Liberals are the very people who preach femenism and women's lib. They
think that in a family that both the mother and the father are supposed
to have jobs outside the house. If the liberals actually thought that
parents should spend more time with their kids they would support the
idea of the mother staying at home with them during the week and not
having an outside job, and that fathers should talk with their kids in
the evening when they get home and spend quality time with the kids on
the weekends.
> > That the environment they grew up was sterile and cold and
> > > > unloving.
> >
> > What planet are you from? You need to get a grip on reality
>
> I'm from the planet of reality. Take of your blinders and look
around.
No you are from the planet of selfishness and hypocracy. Most
consertvative HAVE looked around and taken notice of the degredation
that has oozed into this country since the liberals took control and
changed everything for the worse over from the 1960's on up.
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Patrick Finucane
> No you are from the planet of selfishness and hypocracy. Most
> consertvative HAVE looked around and taken notice of the degredation
> that has oozed into this country since the liberals took control and
> changed everything for the worse over from the 1960's on up.
The good old days are gone. And they never were that good. We have a good
government, great cars if you can afford them, medical advances that were
unthinkable a generation ago, computers, telecommucations, internet,
cable/satellite tv, dbd, awesome movies and computer games, robust cities,
casinos in most every state, the right to vote etc.
Then some folks drag out Beaver and Wally. Things weren't as good as they
are now. And things are going to get better in the future. I will admit
that some people were born "out of their time". It may be better that they
were born during pioneer days and the taming of the west, or working in
steel plants during the industrial revolution. But for most Americans, we
ain't ever had it so good.
So johnny, wake up and smell today. It's what's happening.
Ken Smith
Most of us libertarian Republicans got there on our own. :)
jonn...@my-deja.com
Patrick Finucane <finu...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> jonn...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > No you are from the planet of selfishness and hypocracy. Most
> > consertvative HAVE looked around and taken notice of the degredation
> > that has oozed into this country since the liberals took control and
> > changed everything for the worse over from the 1960's on up.
>
> The good old days are gone. And they never were that good. We have
a good
> government, great cars if you can afford them, medical advances that
were
> unthinkable a generation ago, computers, telecommucations, internet,
> cable/satellite tv, dbd, awesome movies and computer games, robust
cities,
> casinos in most every state, the right to vote etc.
So just because we have advance technology people should be allowed to
do drugs, have illict sex, chastise their country and perform any other
immoral act they want? Your logic is totally lacking.
> Then some folks drag out Beaver and Wally. Things weren't as good as
they
> are now. And things are going to get better in the future. I will
admit
> that some people were born "out of their time". It may be better
that they
> were born during pioneer days and the taming of the west, or working
in
> steel plants during the industrial revolution. But for most
Americans, we
> ain't ever had it so good.
Things aren't good now. Thanks to TV most kids of the current generation
(and a few of the baby boomers too. The ones that grew up to be the
trekkies of today) had their brain fudged by TV and were turned into
total couch potatos. Thanks to the internet people don't ever leave
their house anymore. If they want to buy something, no matter what it
might be, they just go online and order it to be delievered to their
door. People are slowly getting to where they don't go outside of the
house anymore. Also thanks to the internet people don't have real
social lives anymore. They have cyber-dates and chat rooms and things
like that. It's getting to where no one will ever get out side anymore
because because it's more convenient to stay inside.
> So johnny, wake up and smell today. It's what's happening.
Exactly. You ever see "The Matrix"? That's what the world is turning
into. Technology prohibiting people of living.
SnowMiserGroupie
Patrick Finucane <finu...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Rogue Warrior wrote:
Replace the words "conservatives" in the previous post with "Jews" and
welcome to mid-20th century Germany.
If only we all could be as warm, caring, and understanding as such
Democrats.
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--SnowMiserGroupie
"Statistics don't matter here. Numbers do." --Rick Travsky (arguing that
Gore actually *did* win the popular vote, despite the fact that it was a
statistical tie).
THE ELECTION IS OVER. GORE LOST. HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE, HE LOST THE
ELECTORIAL VOTE. HIS DADDY'S LAWYERS COULDN'T BUY HIM THE ELECTION. **
HE LOST. GO HOME.**
SnowMiserGroupie
Patrick Finucane
> If only we all could be as warm, caring, and understanding as such
> Democrats.
Being a mean spirited conservative, it's hard to fathom how you could become a warm,
caring, and understanding Democrat. You're a lost cause.
SnowMiserGroupie
Okay, I'll bite: was your original post (and this followup) actually a
satire (and I fell for it), or are you truly a bigot?
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--SnowMiserGroupie
"Statistics don't matter here. Numbers do." --Rick Travsky (arguing that
Gore actually *did* win the popular vote, despite the fact that it was a
statistical tie).
To state "Conservatives are stereotyped, often for good reason, as mean
spirited, racist, environment killing bigots that hold the value of a
greenback more important than a human life" is nothing less than Liberal-
born Fascism, forged in hate and ignorance. Hitler would be proud.