phenomenon of reincarnation still mystifies modern scientists
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March 22, 2005.
# Clinical death is one of the biggest mysteries that modern science still cannot solve
Some people say they remember their previous lives and can describe what they saw and did when
they were having other bodies hundreds or thousands of years ago.
Vladimir Zatovka, head of the reanimation department in the Kaliningrad regional hospital revealed
many astonishing facts about life and death when journalists interviewed him several years ago.
The experienced doctor believes that clinical death is one of the biggest mysteries that modern
science still cannot solve.
Indeed, patients who revive after clinical death say they get some mysterious information and learn
new things.
Journalists were slightly shocked to hear the doctor saying the soul actually exists and lives its
individual life.
One of the doctor's patients, Irina Lakoba was in coma for about a month after she seriously suffered
in a traffic accident.
She recovered from coma and turned out to be quite a different person.
Before the accident, the woman worked as an engineer at a large fish company for twenty years.
But when she regained consciousness after the coma, the woman said she saw herself being a little
girl standing on the bank of some south river and even began speaking some strange language.
Experts from the philology department of the Kaliningrad University stated that was one of Swahili
dialects.
Later, the woman began composing verses in this dialect and even translated them into Russian,
English and French, the languages that she had never learnt before the accident.
Shortly before Irina recovered from coma, the doctor talked to her husband.
They met in a room two floors above the ward where the patient stayed.
But when the woman recovered, she told precisely what both men were talking about during that
meeting.
What is more, she described things which she could not see and hear when she was in coma.
She said she had seen and heard everything because she could walk about the hospital.
At that, she said she was watching her body staying in bed and was shocked to see it was old and
ugly.
She said she was a little healthy girl while walking about the hospital.
This is real reincarnation, the doctor says.
Followers of esoteric doctrines, Hinduists and Buddhists never hesitate that there is no death at all;
they believe the soul reincarnates endlessly.
But people brought up according to the Orthodox traditions and scientific atheism can hardly believe
it is so.
It was a couple of decades ago that reincarnation was considered a myth, but now it is forming a
scientific conception that is winning an increasing number of supporters.
It took American reanimatologist Raymond Moody thirty years within which he wrote several books
about the after-life phenomenon before he managed to convince majority of his readers that cardiac
arrest and cessation of brain activity do not mean the end.
Those patients who revived from the dead told the doctor similar stories about the light they saw at
the end of a long tunnel, about dead relatives who came to tell about new life coming and about a
better world.
Moody and his followers collected thousands of evidence of this sort; all stories told by patients
coincide in every particular detail, which means these stories cannot be a forgery.
The conclusions made by Moody give people some hope for immortality; but at the same time they
have already won lots of opponents.
Famous psychiatrist Stanislav Grof is the most competent critic of Moody's conclusions.
He conducted experiments with those patients who revived after clinical death.
During the experiment, Stanislav Grof arrived at a conclusion that the tunnel many people see during
their clinical death is in fact an impression of a baby going through the long and narrow birth canal.
Thus, the bright light they see at the end of the tunnel is in fact an obstetrics ward where babies are
delivered.
As it turned out, even people who never went through clinical death see the same tunnel when put
under hypnosis.
Other opponents to Moody, physician Paul Kurtz, physiologist Jack Kowan and neurobiologist
Elizabeth Clark state that the vision of a tunnel is produced with those parts of the dying cerebral
cortex that controls vision.
This happens because of oxygen deficit in dying cells; as a result, stimulation waves form concentric
circles.
We can see such circles after we dive and stay under water too long or hang with the head down.
The dying consciousness sees the circles as forming a tunnel.
Materialist researchers are sure that all the rest are fancies and dreams that people have in an
unconscious state.
However, even these experts cannot explain why even patients whose brain no longer functions still
see the tunnel, the bright light and dead relatives.
Russian neurophysiologist Natalya Bekhtereva wrote about the thought and its origin in her works.
She said that human brain is the greatest mystery, and it will take incredibly much time before
scientists study it.
The lack of oxygen in tissues and organs is not the reason why people experiencing clinical death
see their bodies lifeless on an operating table or in a reanimation ward and hear what doctors or
other patients say.
Researcher from Holland Van Lommel studied the phenomenon while working with patients and
arrived at a conclusion that dying people see visions at the moment when their central nervous
system cuts off.
This in its turn proves that consciousness is not a brain function.
Doctors verified clinical death of one of Lommel's patients.
A tube for mechanical ventilation of lungs was inserted into the patient's larynx.
For that, the patient's denture was taken out.
In an hour and a half, the man's heart started beating; in a week the patient came to his senses and
asked to give him his denture.
But doctors could not remember where they put the denture.
Then, the patient said he saw where doctors had put the denture, as he was soaring above the body
when the doctors were saving his life.
French woman Annel Besier living in Moscow says she can recollect her previous lives.
She wrote a book about her previous reincarnations.
Annel is sure that it is not necessary to die to experience reincarnation.
The author does not remember the exact number of her reincarnations.
According to the karma doctrine, each of us has had thousands of reincarnations, and our soul does
not always reincarnate into the human body, it may also belong to an animal.
There are many people who remember their previous lives.
Muscovite Olga Kuleshova, 37, knows perfectly well that before her birth 37 years ago she was a
violinist living in England (she has partially retained the skills although she never learnt to play the
violin).
Before that, she served in the house of a rich magnate in India.
Olga says that 200 years ago she was a concubine of a Turkish sultan and also that in Medieval Italy
Michelangelo was her tutor in painting.
Indeed, Olga can draw resembling the Michelangelo style and speaks the old Italian language
(she says she never learnt the language).
May this be true? There is no opportunity to verify this.
Academician with the Russian Academy of Sciences Vlail Kaznacheyev says the reincarnation
phenomenon is undoubted, as it has been given much confirmation.
However, none of the hypotheses currently existing as concerning the issue can actually explain the
phenomenon.
Unfortunately, there is no scientific theory of reincarnation.
But is not it better to be unaware of what is going to happen after we die? Nothing, immortality or
endless reincarnation?
Each of us hopes there is no end to life, but we never think that this eternity may be even worse than
death.
Academician Kaznacheyev is sure that life we are having now and here is the only undoubted wonder.
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Roedy Green
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>Olga says that 200 years ago she was a concubine of a Turkish sultan and also that in Medieval Italy
>Michelangelo was her tutor in painting.
It is amazing how nearly everyone who remembers their reincarnations
was a princess or a famous person or an adjunct to one.
In the musical Dear World the countess's cat is the reincarnation of
Voltaire.
When I was about 12 I read about reincarnation. Thought it would be
interesting to reincarnate in Bach's village and get to know him
before he got famous, and see if I could help out in any way.
I saw a several movies about the Dalai Lama and how he is selected. In
one they showed it as his skill as a child in picking up on body
language clues of others which objects he is supposed to recognise and
which not from his former incarnation.
The Dalai Lama himself is remarkably silent on the subject. If
anyone, he should have the most impressive experiences. He is supposed
to be the same person incarnated over and over.
A friend of mine persuaded me to take a hypnotic past life regression.
One life had the plot like an Italian opera. In another I was a
leprechaun. I was not impressed.
In a compassionate universe, you would not carry baggage from life to
life. It is bad enough carrying regrets and heartaches through one
lifetime.
Arthur C. Clark noted that reincarnation stories are very common in
Sri Lanka. People don't think it strange at all. It is much the way
ghosts are taken for granted in North West coast Indian cultures.
If even one of these reincarnation or ghost stories is true, it shows
our universe is a lot more complicated than we thought.
Republicans claim to believe Bush when he tells them UA Flight 93
was hijacked by Saudi terrorists who were not aboard.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes
Roger
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> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 01:02:42 +0100, news...@newsfeeds.com wrote or
> quoted :
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>>Olga says that 200 years ago she was a concubine of a Turkish sultan and
>>also that in Medieval Italy
>>Michelangelo was her tutor in painting.
>
> It is amazing how nearly everyone who remembers their reincarnations
> was a princess or a famous person or an adjunct to one.
Watch the movie "Defending Your Life" by Albert Brooks. He goes to
"Judgement City" after dying, and visits the "Past Lives Pavillion." One of
his past lives is a native hunter running from a lion.
Matti Partonen
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> phenomenon of reincarnation still mystifies modern scientists
[....]
> Muscovite Olga Kuleshova, 37, knows perfectly well that before her birth
37 years ago she was a
> violinist living in England (she has partially retained the skills
although she never learnt to play the
> violin).
>
> Before that, she served in the house of a rich magnate in India.
>
> Olga says that 200 years ago she was a concubine of a Turkish sultan and
also that in Medieval Italy
> Michelangelo was her tutor in painting.
>
> Indeed, Olga can draw resembling the Michelangelo style and speaks the old
Italian language
> (she says she never learnt the language).
>
> May this be true? There is no opportunity to verify this.
Some 30 years ago finnish psychologist Reima Kampman tackled this issue by
hypnotizing a large number of people to the times before their births.
Quite many of the subjects were able to give detailed accounts of the
situations in which they found themselves. But in all such cases Kampman was
able to verify that everything the subjects told had been accessible to
them - sometimes only momentarily - during their present lives.
Coclusion: this study did not find support for the idea of reincarnation.
I am sure similar experiments have been carried out elsewhere.
Matti P.