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n00 b

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19 December 2009

Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems that
was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
2000.

Instead, nothing happened.

The curious thing was that Russia and Italy, which had taken no preventative
measures against this catastrophe, were as unaffected as the USA and the UK,
where government had spent billions averting doomsday.

Oops .

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/5635883/its-the-end-of-the-world-again.thtml

Warmest Regards

Bon_0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."

Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville


Happy Oyster

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:20:20 PM1/3/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:58:12 +1100, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:

>Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems that
>was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
>2000.
>
>Instead, nothing happened.

So what!?

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:58:12 +1100, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
>
>>Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems
>>that
>>was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
>>2000.
>>
>>Instead, nothing happened.
>
> So what!?


Huh?
Do I have to spell it out?
It shows what a scam the Y2K bug was!

Warmest Regards

Bon_0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

n00 b

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:58:12 +1100, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
>
>>Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems
>>that
>>was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
>>2000.
>>
>>Instead, nothing happened.
>
> So what!?

Huh?
Do I have to spell it out?
It shows what a scam the Y2K bug was!

Warmest Regards

Bon_0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

Tater Gumfries

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:10:30 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 8:58 pm, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
> 19 December 2009
>
> Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems that
> was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
> 2000.

No. Nothing like that was supposed to happen, and no one made that
claim.

> Instead, nothing happened.

Not instead. Because people took steps to fix the vulnerable systems
nothing happened.

You really are stupid, or maybe you are just a liar.

Tater

Mauried

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:13:55 AM1/4/10
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 21:10:30 -0800 (PST), Tater Gumfries
<ta...@kernsholler.net> wrote:

>On Jan 3, 8:58=A0pm, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
>> 19 December 2009
>>

>> Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems t=


>hat
>> was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
>> 2000.
>
>No. Nothing like that was supposed to happen, and no one made that
>claim.
>
>> Instead, nothing happened.
>
>Not instead. Because people took steps to fix the vulnerable systems
>nothing happened.
>
>You really are stupid, or maybe you are just a liar.
>
>Tater


What were these vulnerable systems that needed fixing?

Peter Webb

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:52:20 AM1/4/10
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"Tater Gumfries" <ta...@kernsholler.net> wrote in message
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On Jan 3, 8:58 pm, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
> 19 December 2009
>
> Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems
> that
> was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
> 2000.

No. Nothing like that was supposed to happen, and no one made that
claim.

> Instead, nothing happened.

Not instead. Because people took steps to fix the vulnerable systems
nothing happened.

___________________________________
The hysteria was completely misplaced. To the extent there were Y2K
problems, these were mostly fixed in the early 90s without the issue even
being discussed in the media. This is because by 1992 there were credit
cards that expired after the year 2000, contracts that expired after that
date, mortgages that expired after that date etc. By the late 1990s - when
this thing became a public issue - the problem had largely already been
fixed.

As it was, there were zero computer problems reported. This is as true in
the English speaking world (where the hysteria was rife and a fortune was
spent fixing it) as in countries which spent almost nothing and it had very
little public attention (eg Italy).

What the Y2K bug meant in practical terms is that IT consultants made a
fortune in the late 1990s talking up the problem, and companies like SAP and
Oracle made shitloads selling ERP systems as replacements for mainframe
systems that "might" have a problem.

Of course in retrospect the fact that of the world's several hundred million
computers exactly zero had a problem shows the problem was vastly
exaggerated. It wasn't because several hundred million computer systems were
all fixed perfectly with zero errors, it was that it wasn't actually such a
real problem. I was saying this at the time, personally I didn't accept any
Y2K remediation work as I thought the problem was bullshit at the time, but
I certainly did profit from the fact that almost every other IT consultant
in Australia had his snout so deep in the Y2K trough that there was plenty
of non-Y2K work available as well.

The parallels with AGW are pretty clear.

Some AGW proponents claim that the earth's temperature increase will cause
positive feedback and runaway temperature increases and worldwide calamity.
Some Y2K proponents believed that failure of computer systems would cause a
domino effect and power stations would stop working, planes would fall out
of the sky, and elevators would go into maintenance mode and stop working.

What would make the analogy perfect is if global temperatures start to drop
(ie the earth starts to cool), and then climate scientists run around and
claim this proves Kyoto was a success.


You really are stupid, or maybe you are just a liar.

____________________________________________
I'm guessing you that what you actually know about the "Y2K bug" is what you
learned reading stories about it in the popular press in the late 1990s.
That's a pretty thin base of knowledge to be accusing people of being
"stupid" or a "liar" because they view the Y2K bug differently. Having lived
through it up close and personal, it was massively exaggerated. This should
now be obvious; it was a complete fizzer.

aaronhi...@yahoo.com

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:38:43 AM1/4/10
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Some companies built duplications of their entire computer systems,
isolated them from the rest of their existing systems, installed their
Y2K compliant software, and rolled the system clocks on these machines
past midnight on December 31, 1999. Just to verify that all their
code was correct. It was a good idea. It was careful planning like
this that resulted in no problems.

It was very simple. Calculations involving two digit dates were going
to cause problems. If no problems occurred, it means that they were
all fixed ahead of time. Russia? No problems? Do they have
computers in Russia? Maybe all their code was Y2K compliant to begin
with.

Aaron Hirshberg

Tater Gumfries

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:53:35 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 11:52 pm, "Peter Webb"

<webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote:
> "Tater Gumfries" <ta...@kernsholler.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e0bfa73c-223e-4d2d...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 3, 8:58 pm, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
>
> > 19 December 2009
>
> > Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems
> > that
> > was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
> > 2000.
>
> No. Nothing like that was supposed to happen, and no one made that
> claim.
>
> > Instead, nothing happened.
>
> Not instead. Because people took steps to fix the vulnerable systems
> nothing happened.

> ____________________________________________


> I'm guessing you that what you actually know about the "Y2K bug" is what you
> learned reading stories about it in the popular press in the late 1990s.


Tater was doin systems administration at that time, at a University in
Colorado, and he knew a few things about it. Folks was workin right up
until the last day of 1999 makin sure things was in order. Most of the
stuff in the press was hysterical nonsense, but they was real problems
got took care of kept some bad things from happenin. People who knew
what could go wrong fixed things, and kept checkin everything to make
sure they got it all. That's why the shitstorm didn't happen.

Same thing with epidemics. Folks who know what they're doin figure out
and implement preventive measures to minimize the damage. But they's
still ignorant folk claim when things don't go wrong, weren't nothin
to the danger in the first place.

Tater

Josepi

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:51:23 AM1/4/10
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Totally Agreed: I was involved in some of the pre-clean-up stuff also for
electrical grid control systems. We never found anything to dangerous but
most of it was controller software without critical real time date
consequences.


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aaronhi...@yahoo.com

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On Jan 4, 11:51 am, "Josepi" <J...@invaliid.con> wrote:
> Totally Agreed: I was involved in some of the pre-clean-up stuff also for
> electrical grid control systems. We never found anything to dangerous but
> most of it was controller software without critical real time date
> consequences.

I even heard stories that the software in read only memory in fire
alarm monitoring systems in buildings were doing two digit year
calculations. They had to be replaced before 12/31/1999. And they
were.

Aaron Hirshberg

The Chief Instigator

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"Happy Oyster" <happy....@ariplex.com> wrote in message news:b3r2k5dob7kisjv8i...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:58:12 +1100, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
>
>>Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems that
>>was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
>>2000.
>>
>>Instead, nothing happened.
>
> So what!?
>
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> ***************************************************************
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> http://www.transgallaxys.com/~kanzlerzwo/showtopic.php?threadid=5710



He assumes everything will be the same mistake. 2010 Will be the year of great pains for rich and poor.

The price of errogant behavior of one stupid nation.


b no0

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:47:25 PM1/4/10
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"Roger Coppock" <rcop...@adnc.com> wrote in message
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I was one of the army of programmers that fixed the Y2K
problem. I found and fixed a bug in a medical IV feeder.
On the change of the century the microprocessor firmware
would have feed medicine into the patients' bloodstream
as fast as the machine could and it would have ignored
commands from the keyboard to change this behavior.
Very probably, people would have died due to this bug.
======================================


And how many died in Russia and Italy pray tell?

Warmest Regards

Bon_0

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

On Jan 3, 7:58 pm, "n00 b" <s...@vvv.com> wrote:
> 19 December 2009
>

> Remember the so-called Millennium Bug, a glitch in our computer systems
> that
> was going to plunge us back into the Dark Ages at the start of the year
> 2000.
>
> Instead, nothing happened.
>

> The curious thing was that Russia and Italy, which had taken no
> preventative

Gee!
There were no Y2K problems among the headhunters in the Amazon either.
In order to have computer software problems, one has to have
computers.
DUH!

> measures against this catastrophe, were as unaffected as the USA and the
> UK,
> where government had spent billions averting doomsday.
>
> Oops .
>

> http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/5635883/its-the-end-of-the-world-ag...

Seon Ferguson

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Jan 4, 2010, 11:10:20 PM1/4/10
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Yes and people worked on the problem and solved it, just like we will with
global warming.

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