Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM to Obama
Too_Many_Tools
failures.
TMT
Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
By: Andy Barr
June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
Bush did not want to be the one who “pulled the plug” on General
Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
Obama.
“I thought that, eventually, the right outcome was going to be
bankruptcy,” Cheney said of the company during the second part of
interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
“[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
contracts and so forth,” he said. “And the president decided that he
did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
office.”
Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
“put together a package that tided GM over until the new
administration had a chance to look at it.”
The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
late in the Bush term would have dumped on Obama the “first crises the
new administration would have to deal with.”
“These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
GM,” Cheney said, adding that he and Bush wanted to allow Obama’s team
to “decide what they wanted to do.”
Arizona Bushwhacker
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
> �put together a package that tided GM over until the new
> administration had a chance to look at it.�
At the time, I was posting about how if these idiot
republicans were demanding that GM go bankrupt...
they should let it go bankrupt under George Bush.
They didn't like that idea.
Every republican was demanding that GM be
given just enough to let them hold on until they
could go belly up under Obama so they could
blame Obama for GM going under. I knew
what was going on, and I posted exactly that
at the time.
Republicans do not do a God Damn thing that
benefits America. Not one single damn thing!
All they do is start wars, burn down black
churches, shoot people in others, torture people,
spend America into debt while getting absolutely
nothing for the money they spent, and generally
calling anyone who wants to help America to
become more profitable for working Americans...
a traitor!
Peter Franks
> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
> failures.
>
> TMT
>
> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
> By: Andy Barr
> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>
> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
> Obama.
>
> bankruptcy,� Cheney said of the company during the second part of
> interview with Fox News� Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>
> �[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>
> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
> administration had a chance to look at it.�
>
> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
> new administration would have to deal with.�
>
> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
> to �decide what they wanted to do.�
Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
dictate the means of production for a private entity?
Too_Many_Tools
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
> > failures.
>
> > TMT
>
> > Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
> > By: Andy Barr
> > June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>
> > Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
> > Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
> > Obama.
>
> > bankruptcy,” Cheney said of the company during the second part of
> > interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>
> > “[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
> > chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
> > did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>
> > Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
> > administration had a chance to look at it.”
>
> > The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
> > aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
> > new administration would have to deal with.”
>
> > “These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
> > of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
> > to “decide what they wanted to do.”
>
> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
Because they can.
TMT
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
> > failures.
>
> > TMT
>
> > Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
> > By: Andy Barr
> > June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>
> > Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
> > Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
> > Obama.
>
> > bankruptcy,” Cheney said of the company during the second part of
> > interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>
> > “[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
> > chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
> > did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>
> > Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
> > administration had a chance to look at it.”
>
> > The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
> > aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
> > new administration would have to deal with.”
>
> > “These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
> > of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
> > to “decide what they wanted to do.”
>
> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
EPA does allatime. You should see my GMC truck's paint job.
Basil Karlo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
> two mothers dildos
>
> TMT
Seek help, for your self and your mothers. Have some respect for the office
too, 'k?
Grandpa McLame
wrote:
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Just one of the many crises that Bush/Cheney left for Obama and
America. The fact that Cheney is still speaking out in public just
shows he has more balls than brains.
Basil Karlo
"Peter Franks" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
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> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
>> mothers dildos
>>
>> TMT
>>
> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
I hope they aren't producing more dildos for TMT to suck on
Basil Karlo
"Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 3, 3:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> > Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
>> > mothers dildos
>>
>> > TMT
>>
>>
>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>
> Because they can.
>
> TMT
Sad for the fedgov to become involved in your sick behavior.
Basil Karlo
<hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jun 3, 4:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>> > Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
>> > mothers dildos
>>
>> > TMT
>>
>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>
> EPA does allatime. You should see my GMC truck's paint job.
You should see TMT's mothers (both of them) give TMT blow jobs.
squi...@yahoo.com
Duhhhh, stupid baby raping right wing trash, need a dozen examples in
a few seconds?
Why don't all you fagot baby-rapers get together and fix all of your
failures, NOO, then SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
Edward
wrote:
Every time I have heard Cheney speak this year, he uses the phrase "Tax
and Spend Democrats". The truth is when it comes to taxation, the ones
that have to pay a bit more are those with high salaries. As for the
"Spend" part, over 90% of the National Debt was created by Republicans.
AnAmericanCitizen
wrote:
>Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>failures.
>
>TMT
You left out the most important part....GM is Obama's failure at this point. Both
Chrysler and GM should have simpley been allowed by Obama to go through a bankruptcy
and then reorganize. Obama chose otherwise and guess what? Ended up with two auto
companies for himself and his union buddies....AAC
>The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>late in the Bush term would have dumped on Obama the �first crises the
>new administration would have to deal with.�
>
>�These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>GM,� Cheney said, adding that he and Bush wanted to allow Obama�s team
>to �decide what they wanted to do.�
fargo116
> On Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:17:00 -0400, Grandpa McLame <capt...@gmail.com>
We had to raise taxes on the rich to clean up the mess the Drunken
Frat Boy and Shooter left behind. All you guys making more than a
quarter-million a year, say thanks, will ya?
S. Olson
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
...
Have some respect for the office too, 'k?
I will when the person filling it shows some respect for the Constitution.
Thanks,
Rich
Peter Franks
> On Jun 3, 3:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>>> failures.
>>> TMT
>>> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
>>> By: Andy Barr
>>> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>>> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
>>> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
>>> Obama.
>>> bankruptcy,� Cheney said of the company during the second part of
>>> interview with Fox News� Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>>> �[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
>>> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
>>> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>>> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
>>> administration had a chance to look at it.�
>>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>>> new administration would have to deal with.�
>>> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>
> Because they can.
Only under communism.
Conclusion: there is no such delegated authority, therefore the actions
by the Federal government are illegal and contrary to the established
designs of this nation.
Peter Franks
> On Jun 3, 4:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>>> failures.
>>> TMT
>>> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
>>> By: Andy Barr
>>> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>>> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
>>> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
>>> Obama.
>>> bankruptcy,� Cheney said of the company during the second part of
>>> interview with Fox News� Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>>> �[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
>>> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
>>> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>>> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
>>> administration had a chance to look at it.�
>>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>>> new administration would have to deal with.�
>>> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>
> EPA does allatime. You should see my GMC truck's paint job.
I said "delegated authority", not 'usurped power'.
Too_Many_Tools
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com>
LOL...just freaking amazing.
Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking
pile of crap to Obama.
Do I need to get a child to explain it to you?
Obama is trying to save what is left of the industry...after Bush ran
it into the ground for eight long years.
TMT
Peter Franks
> On Jun 3, 6:38 pm, AnAmericanCitizen <NoAmne...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>>> failures.
>>> TMT
>> You left out the most important part....GM is Obama's failure at this point. Both
>> Chrysler and GM should have simpley been allowed by Obama to go through a bankruptcy
>> and then reorganize. Obama chose otherwise and guess what? Ended up with two auto
>> companies for himself and his union buddies....AAC
>>
>>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>>> new administration would have to deal with.�
>>> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>
> LOL...just freaking amazing.
>
> Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking
> pile of crap to Obama.
It wasn't Bush's to pass. GM is a private entity. Are you advocating
communism?
> Obama is trying to save what is left of the industry...after Bush ran
> it into the ground for eight long years.
Obama has absolutely NO delegated authority to save the industry. Obama
stepping in is nothing short of communism.
Gore had more to do w/ nuking the auto industry than anyone. Thank him.
The facts are not on your side, my friend. Instead of perpetuating
propaganda, educate yourself and take an enlightened stand; you will be
a better person because of it.
Too_Many_Tools
> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 6:38 pm, AnAmericanCitizen <NoAmne...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
> >>> failures.
> >>> TMT
> >> You left out the most important part....GM is Obama's failure at this point. Both
> >> Chrysler and GM should have simpley been allowed by Obama to go through a bankruptcy
> >> and then reorganize. Obama chose otherwise and guess what? Ended up with two auto
> >> companies for himself and his union buddies....AAC
>
> >>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
> >>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
> >>> new administration would have to deal with.”
> >>> “These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
> >>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
> >>> to “decide what they wanted to do.”
>
> > LOL...just freaking amazing.
>
> > Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking
> > pile of crap to Obama.
>
> It wasn't Bush's to pass. GM is a private entity. Are you advocating
> communism?
>
> > Obama is trying to save what is left of the industry...after Bush ran
> > it into the ground for eight long years.
>
> Obama has absolutely NO delegated authority to save the industry. Obama
> stepping in is nothing short of communism.
>
> Gore had more to do w/ nuking the auto industry than anyone. Thank him.
>
> The facts are not on your side, my friend. Instead of perpetuating
> propaganda, educate yourself and take an enlightened stand; you will be
> a better person because of it.
LOL...try again.
Bush is the one who did the auto bailout...or have you forgotten so
soon?
TMT
hot-ham-a...@hotmail.com
> hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 4:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
> >>> failures.
> >>> TMT
> >>> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
> >>> By: Andy Barr
> >>> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
> >>> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
> >>> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
> >>> Obama.
> >>> bankruptcy,” Cheney said of the company during the second part of
> >>> interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
> >>> “[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
> >>> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
> >>> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
> >>> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
> >>> administration had a chance to look at it.”
> >>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
> >>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
> >>> new administration would have to deal with.”
> >>> “These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
> >>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
> >>> to “decide what they wanted to do.”
> >> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> >> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>
> > EPA does allatime. You should see my GMC truck's paint job.
>
> I said "delegated authority", not 'usurped power'.
Tell it to my truck.
Peter Franks
> On Jun 3, 8:14 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> On Jun 3, 4:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>>>>> failures.
>>>>> TMT
>>>>> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
>>>>> By: Andy Barr
>>>>> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>>>>> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
>>>>> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
>>>>> Obama.
>>>>> bankruptcy,� Cheney said of the company during the second part of
>>>>> interview with Fox News� Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>>>>> �[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
>>>>> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
>>>>> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>>>>> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
>>>>> administration had a chance to look at it.�
>>>>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>>>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>>>>> new administration would have to deal with.�
>>>>> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>>>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>>>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
>>>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>>> EPA does allatime. You should see my GMC truck's paint job.
>> I said "delegated authority", not 'usurped power'.
>
> Tell it to my truck.
Will do.
Peter Franks
> On Jun 3, 8:58 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>> On Jun 3, 6:38 pm, AnAmericanCitizen <NoAmne...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>>>>> failures.
>>>>> TMT
>>>> You left out the most important part....GM is Obama's failure at this point. Both
>>>> Chrysler and GM should have simpley been allowed by Obama to go through a bankruptcy
>>>> and then reorganize. Obama chose otherwise and guess what? Ended up with two auto
>>>> companies for himself and his union buddies....AAC
>>>>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>>>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>>>>> new administration would have to deal with.�
>>>>> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>>>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>>> LOL...just freaking amazing.
>>> Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking
>>> pile of crap to Obama.
>> It wasn't Bush's to pass. GM is a private entity. Are you advocating
>> communism?
>>
>>> Obama is trying to save what is left of the industry...after Bush ran
>>> it into the ground for eight long years.
>> Obama has absolutely NO delegated authority to save the industry. Obama
>> stepping in is nothing short of communism.
>>
>> Gore had more to do w/ nuking the auto industry than anyone. Thank him.
>>
>> The facts are not on your side, my friend. Instead of perpetuating
>> propaganda, educate yourself and take an enlightened stand; you will be
>> a better person because of it.
>
> LOL...try again.
>
> Bush is the one who did the auto bailout...or have you forgotten so
> soon?
Where did I say he didn't?
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
you mean the trailer you live in, trailer trash, a 59 year old trailer
is not a car jesus fucker
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
> hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > On Jun 3, 8:14 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >> hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Jun 3, 4:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
> >>>>> failures.
> >>>>> TMT
> >>>>> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
> >>>>> By: Andy Barr
> >>>>> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
> >>>>> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
> >>>>> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
> >>>>> Obama.
> >>>>> bankruptcy,” Cheney said of the company during the second part of
> >>>>> interview with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
> >>>>> “[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
> >>>>> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
> >>>>> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
> >>>>> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
> >>>>> administration had a chance to look at it.”
> >>>>> The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
> >>>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
> >>>>> new administration would have to deal with.”
> >>>>> “These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
> >>>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
> >>>>> to “decide what they wanted to do.”
> >>>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> >>>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
> >>> EPA does allatime. You should see my GMC truck's paint job.
>
> > Tell it to my truck.
>
> Will do.
jesus freak fucker
Who Is John Galt
anyone doing business with GM and the Government is a traitor to the
Constitution.
Shevek
The best and successful example of state-run economy is the American
economy during World War II. Are you arguing that the US were a
communist regime then?
--
Shevek
Vandar
It's lemon socialism.
edi...@netpath.net
> The best and successful example of state-run economy is the American
> economy during World War II. Are you arguing that the US were a
> communist regime then?
Not even comparable. Was the regime then nationalizing General Motors
- and firing its chief executive? Did Chrysler then file bankruptcy?
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Shevek
> On Jun 4, 3:24 am, Shevek <sheve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The best and successful example of state-run economy is the American
>> economy during World War II. Are you arguing that the US were a
>> communist regime then?
>
> Not even comparable. Was the regime then nationalizing General Motors
> - and firing its chief executive? Did Chrysler then file bankruptcy?
>
Nope, but it did control what, when and how was produced. The situation
was other, and the needs of the society (directed to the war effort
then) were different, but that doesn't change the fact that during WW2
the American was a planned econom, without being communist.
--
Shevek
W Spilman
"Basil Karlo" <clay...@nomansland.invalid> wrote in message
news:h06svt$2gl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Sad that Republicans passed laws that allowed crooked
frat-boy CEO's to loot their companies into bankruptcy.
WS
Bama Brian
> On Jun 3, 3:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>> failures.
>>> TMT
>>> Cheney: Bush passed buck on GM
>>> By: Andy Barr
>>> June 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST
>>> Former Vice President Dick Cheney says that former President George W.
>>> Bush did not want to be the one who �pulled the plug� on General
>>> Motors and instead decided to pass on the issue to President Barack
>>> Obama.
>>> �I thought that, eventually, the right outcome was going to be
>>> bankruptcy,� Cheney said of the company during the second part of
>>> interview with Fox News� Greta Van Susteren that aired Tuesday night.
>>> �[GM] had to go through such a dramatic restructuring to have any
>>> chance of survival that they had to be able to renegotiate labor
>>> contracts and so forth,� he said. �And the president decided that he
>>> did not want to be the one who pulled the plug just before he left
>>> office.�
>>> Cheney said that rather than acting on GM, the Bush administration
>>> �put together a package that tided GM over until the new
>>> administration had a chance to look at it.�
>>> aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>>> late in the Bush term would have dumped on Obama the �first crises the
>>> new administration would have to deal with.�
>>> �These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>>> of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>>> GM,� Cheney said, adding that he and Bush wanted to allow Obama�s team
>>> to �decide what they wanted to do.�
>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>
> Because they can.
Unconstitutionally and illegally. You better wake up, TMT. When the
fedgov blatantly seizes power on that level, your personal freedoms are
at risk of becoming whatever a bureaucrat deigns to grant you.
--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
Bama Brian
The fedgov needs to get completely out of American biz. Both Dems and
Repubs have shown no understanding of how biz works, and consistently
pass hideously anti-biz legislation.
Bama Brian
It absolutely was.
Bama Brian
Has the paint fallen off yet?
W Spilman
"Bama Brian" <brianNOSP...@att.net> wrote in message
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>W Spilman wrote:
>> "Basil Karlo" <clay...@nomansland.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:h06svt$2gl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:53776534-0e5e-42a9...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Jun 3, 3:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
>>>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>>>>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
>>>>>> mothers dildos
>>>>>> TMT
>>>>>
>>>>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
>>>>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
>>>> Because they can.
>>>>
>>>> TMT
>>> Sad for the fedgov to become involved in your sick behavior.
>>
>> Sad that Republicans passed laws that allowed crooked
>> frat-boy CEO's to loot their companies into bankruptcy.
>> WS
>
> The fedgov needs to get completely out of American biz. Both Dems and
> Repubs have shown no understanding of how biz works, and consistently pass
> hideously anti-biz legislation.
The CEO's of major US corporations are the ones who seem to have
no understanding of how business works. The were given free reign
from 2000 until 2006 (no EPA suits, no SEC enforcement, a muzzled
FDA) and look what the corrupt bastards did to our economy. I'll take
my chances with some government checks on these crooks.
WS
Richard the Dreaded Libertarian
> "Bama Brian" <brianNOSP...@att.net> wrote in message
>>
>> Repubs have shown no understanding of how biz works, and consistently pass
>> hideously anti-biz legislation.
>
> The CEO's of major US corporations are the ones who seem to have
> no understanding of how business works. The were given free reign
> from 2000 until 2006 (no EPA suits, no SEC enforcement, a muzzled
> FDA) and look what the corrupt bastards did to our economy. I'll take
> my chances with some government checks on these crooks.
It's the unions, with government collusion, that bankrupted everybody.
Thanks,
Rich
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
> >news:h06svt$2gl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:53776534-0e5e-42a9...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On Jun 3, 3:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
> >>>>> mothers dildos
> >>>>> TMT
>
> >>>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> >>>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
> >>> Because they can.
>
> >>> TMT
> >> Sad for the fedgov to become involved in your sick behavior.
>
> > Sad that Republicans passed laws that allowed crooked
> > frat-boy CEO's to loot their companies into bankruptcy.
> > WS
>
> The fedgov needs to get completely out of American biz. Both Dems and
> Repubs have shown no understanding of how biz works, and consistently
> pass hideously anti-biz legislation.
>
> --
> "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
> George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
>
> Cheers,
> Bama Brian
> Libertarian
you did not mind when bush illegally broke the constitution and spied
on americans, they was ok right hypocrit?
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica
>
> >> The fedgov needs to get completely out of American biz. Both Dems and
> >> Repubs have shown no understanding of how biz works, and consistently pass
> >> hideously anti-biz legislation.
>
> > The CEO's of major US corporations are the ones who seem to have
> > no understanding of how business works. The were given free reign
> > from 2000 until 2006 (no EPA suits, no SEC enforcement, a muzzled
> > FDA) and look what the corrupt bastards did to our economy. I'll take
> > my chances with some government checks on these crooks.
>
> It's the unions, with government collusion, that bankrupted everybody.
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
it was bush's deregulation that caused all of this, no oversight
Bama Brian
Spilman,
The fedgov passes law after law, and forces the businesses to adapt to
whatever ridiculous fashionable, politically correct mandates that the
congress critters want. CEO's are paid to ensure the profitability of
their companies. Should they then simply let the company go under, or
should they adapt to what the fedgov wants?
When the fedgov got into the housing market, and forced banks to make
subprime loans, it touched off one hell of a domino effect of business
collapses. See the foreclosure market, the construction industry, and
the states' lack of tax revenues.
When the fedgov set up the tax codes so that a biz can put its
manufacturing offshore, lay off Americans, and so make a profit, it set
up other businesses to go under once people no longer had the
well-paying jobs and incomes to buy consumer goods. See houses and cars.
When the fedgov continues to do deficit spending beyond any hope
whatsoever of paying off these deficits, it touches off a huge wave of
inflation. See food costs, up 20% since a year ago. See all of those
old retirees, trying to get by on a $500 per month SS check.
When the fedgov failed in administration after administration to set up
a true energy program to ensure the US' independence from another
country's control, it set the stage for that $4.00 per gallon gasoline
debacle that will come again soon. Did you see the pretty solid gold
necklace that Obama was just given by an Arab? Where do you think the
money for that bauble came from? Have you seen all the pretty buildings
that the Arab princes are building in their countries? The US can no
longer afford such things.
Look up in the sky. The vultures are circling the dying carcass of the
Republic. Pretty soon, the vultures will land and it won't be a good
time here in the remains of what was once the world's best country.
Bama Brian
You're attacking the wrong person. I sure as Hell did mind it! I also
don't support the Iraqi or Afghani wars, or Patriot Acts I and II, or
waterboarding, or warrantless wiretapping, or asset forfeiture, or the
"War On (Some) Drugs".
So get off my back, asshole.
Too_Many_Tools
dog...com> wrote:
> Basil Karlo wrote:
>
> > "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:7772cd0b-1326-49fe...@b1g2000vbc.googlegroups.com...
> >> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
> >> two mothers dildos
>
> >> TMT
>
> > Seek help, for your self and your mothers. Have some respect for the
> > office too, 'k?
>
> anyone doing business with GM and the Government is a traitor to the
> Constitution.
LOL...so now you are saying that the tens of millions of GM owners
shouldn't do business with GM?
If so you are really lacking some marbles.
TMT
Too_Many_Tools
> "Bama Brian" <brianNOSPAMclayp...@att.net> wrote in message
>
> news:qgRVl.34582$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
> >W Spilman wrote:
> >>news:h06svt$2gl$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> >>> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:53776534-0e5e-42a9...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> On Jun 3, 3:15 pm, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Too_Many_Tools wrote:
> >>>>>> Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up my
> >>>>>> mothers dildos
> >>>>>> TMT
>
> >>>>> Under what delegated authority is the Federal government permitted to
> >>>>> dictate the means of production for a private entity?
> >>>> Because they can.
>
> >>>> TMT
> >>> Sad for the fedgov to become involved in your sick behavior.
>
> >> Sad that Republicans passed laws that allowed crooked
> >> frat-boy CEO's to loot their companies into bankruptcy.
> >> WS
>
> > The fedgov needs to get completely out of American biz. Both Dems and
> > Repubs have shown no understanding of how biz works, and consistently pass
> > hideously anti-biz legislation.
>
> The CEO's of major US corporations are the ones who seem to have
> no understanding of how business works. The were given free reign
> from 2000 until 2006 (no EPA suits, no SEC enforcement, a muzzled
> FDA) and look what the corrupt bastards did to our economy. I'll take
> my chances with some government checks on these crooks.
> WS
Well said...
TMT
AnAmericanCitizen
wrote:
>On Jun 3, 6:38�pm, AnAmericanCitizen <NoAmne...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:41:15 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Now read that carefully wingers.....Obama is cleaning up Bush's
>> >failures.
>>
>> >TMT
>>
>> You left out the most important part....GM is Obama's failure at this point. �Both
>> Chrysler and GM should have simpley been allowed by Obama to go through a bankruptcy
>> and then reorganize. �Obama chose otherwise and guess what? �Ended up with two auto
>> companies for himself and his union buddies....AAC
>>
>> >The former vice president stated that the choice was made in order to
>> >aid the Obama administration, thinking that forcing GM to restructure
>> >late in the Bush term would have dumped on Obama the �first crises the
>> >new administration would have to deal with.�
>>
>> >�These are big issues and [Bush] wouldn't be there through the process
>> >of managing it, but in effect, would have sort of pulled the plug on
>> >GM,� Cheney said, adding that he and Bush wanted to allow Obama�s team
>> >to �decide what they wanted to do.�
>
>LOL...just freaking amazing.
>
>Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking
>pile of crap to Obama.
You're one of those people who think if you repeat something often enough it will be
believed. You WANT to believe this.
>
>Do I need to get a child to explain it to you?
No, but you might have one explain it to you.
>
>Obama is trying to save what is left of the industry...after Bush ran
>it into the ground for eight long years.
You really don't know what you're talking about. Typical democrat. The unions
ruined the auto industry with their outrageous demands.
As for the economy. The country had a robust economy until 2006, the year the
democrats took over congress. Grow up....AAC
"Some of these car dealerships are doing okay, and they're being ruined by the
government. Obama is forcing them to shut down. How can he do it? Well, he can't.�
The whole bankruptcy deal with Chrysler is unconstitutional.� There's a contracts
clause in the Fifth Amendment.� But he's doing it and getting away with it because
nobody's stopping him." ....-Rush Limbaugh �
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:47:52 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
> <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
-----------snip---------
>>Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking pile
>>of crap to Obama.
>
> You're one of those people who think if you repeat something often
> enough it will be believed. You WANT to believe this.
It is true, Cheney did say that he and Bush decided not to make a
decision on GM and let the next President decide.
--
Regards, Curly
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Now it's time for War Crime Trials at the Hague for Bush/Cheney
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AnAmericanCitizen
>On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:52:05 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:47:52 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>> <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>-----------snip---------
>>>Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking pile
>>>of crap to Obama.
>>
>> You're one of those people who think if you repeat something often
>> enough it will be believed. You WANT to believe this.
>
>It is true, Cheney did say that he and Bush decided not to make a
>decision on GM and let the next President decide.
I agree it's true...however, the decent thing to do was to let the incoming president
decide how he wanted to deal with the problem and not stick him with a decision he
didn't want. That's why they did what they did.
Had Bush made a decision that Obama was stuck with, we'd still be having this
conversation, however you democrats would be complaining because they hadn't let
Obama make a decision regarding a matter that would impact his administration...AAC
One of the most important talents for success in politics is the ability to make
utter nonsense sound not only plausible but inspiring. Barack Obama has that talent.
We will be lucky if we escape the catastrophes into which other countries have been
led by leaders with that same charismatic talent...Thomas Sowell
Curly Surmudgeon
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:40:40 GMT, Curly Surmudgeon
> <CurlySu...@live.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:52:05 -0700, AnAmericanCitizen wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:47:52 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
>>> <too_man...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>-----------snip---------
>>>>Your fearless leader Cheney just said that Bush passed the stinking
>>>>pile of crap to Obama.
>>>
>>> You're one of those people who think if you repeat something often
>>> enough it will be believed. You WANT to believe this.
>>
>>It is true, Cheney did say that he and Bush decided not to make a
>>decision on GM and let the next President decide.
>
> I agree it's true...however, the decent thing to do was to let the
> incoming president decide how he wanted to deal with the problem and not
> stick him with a decision he didn't want. That's why they did what they
> did.
>
> Had Bush made a decision that Obama was stuck with, we'd still be having
> this conversation, however you democrats
Bzzzzt! Clean your crystal ball.
> would be complaining because
> they hadn't let Obama make a decision regarding a matter that would
> impact his administration...AAC
Given your error above I can't accept this prediction.
> One of the most important talents for success in politics is the ability
> to make utter nonsense sound not only plausible but inspiring. Barack
> Obama has that talent. We will be lucky if we escape the catastrophes
> into which other countries have been led by leaders with that same
> charismatic talent...Thomas Sowell
--
Gunner Asch
Which Republicans were those?
Be specific. Use as much whitespace as necessary when providing
footnotes to back up your spew.
Gunner
"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"
Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
Gunner Asch
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica <bushhelpsc...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Says the Leftard Useless Eater.