To the DESPICABLE
billy
Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would gain the
following impressions from many postings:
---------------------------------------------
1) Many people in this newsgroup seem to think each British and
American Soldier is taking part in a shameful act and is putting his life in
danger (with the possibility of losing it) in that context.
2) Many people in this newsgroup indicate, in view of (1), they would rather
see Saddam's power left undisturbed than the Iraqi people relieved of his
barbarity and given the chance to join the free and democratic nations - and
become prosperous as a result.
3) Many people in this newsgroup who hold the sentiments contained in (1)
and (2) express a delight whenever there is an announcement of a British
and/or an American Soldier killed - and therefore imply the support of those
(classed as terrorist) who are doing the killing.
4) Many people in this newsgroup, in the context of (1), (2) and (3), are
undermining the morale of men who have the most dangerous task possible; and
these men are, in terms of morale, deeply affected by the delight expressed
when one of their comrades is killed - since they know that delight would
also be expressed if they were killed.
---------------------------------------------------
So, from the above four points, what would be my attitude if I happened to
be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in Iraq?
It would be this:
If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I could
identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who expressed the
opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never expressed them again.
************************************************
proma1
lovely money,wife and kids well looked after by the state on some barracks.
the oppurtunity to show they have not grown up,any man who equates being a
man with playing with toys to kill others has seriously lost the plot.
who cares about there morale,they are breaking the law by being there,they
are terrorists,they are attacking and killing people against wishes of
united nations.
i they get what they reap,what di they join up for,no one asked them
to,probsably many join up to eascape going to prison and take the easy way
out,finding that killing hurtung and maiming does not pay the rent,they join
the military and get paid for doing it.
a message for all servicemen from the UK
PLEASE TURN YOUR WEAPONS ON YOUR COMMANDERS AND LEAVE
"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
proma1
some,they and all military do not think for themsleves,they have to wait for
orders to do things
right lads,toilet time
willies out 1/2/3
point in pan 1/2/3
piss,wait for it piss now.
welll many of us cannot understand orders from anyone,i do as i see fit i am
not going to have someone else dare to tell me what to do.
britsh serviceman are good at getting drunking/fighting/raping/sexual
abuse/beating there wives up oh yes join the services and get paid for being
a thug
save your bullets for your wife and kids and yourself,you should be ashamed
for being associatoed with modern military,yes world war one and two,there
was no choice and conscription saw many to war, ihave respect for them.
but nowadays sorry,you join you take the shit,dont expect me to worry about
you
Bigot
"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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in
> Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would gain
the
> following impressions from many postings:
> ---------------------------------------------
> be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in Iraq?
> It would be this:
> If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left;
Soldiers are not permitted to carry live rounds outside of a military
training area or active duty.
Nice to see Billy Brain-dead ignoring the laws he pretends to support:-))
Bigot
"proma1" <pro...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:RZ7gc.47$tq5.38@newsfe1-win...
> yes any serving serviceman is an oppurtunist money grabber
>
>
> lovely money,wife and kids well looked after by the state on some
barracks.
>
>
> the oppurtunity to show they have not grown up,any man who equates being a
> man with playing with toys to kill others has seriously lost the plot.
>
>
> who cares about there morale,they are breaking the law by being there,they
> are terrorists,they are attacking and killing people against wishes of
> united nations.
>
>
> i they get what they reap,what di they join up for,no one asked them
> to,probsably many join up to eascape going to prison and take the easy way
> out,finding that killing hurtung and maiming does not pay the rent,they
join
> the military and get paid for doing it.
>
> a message for all servicemen from the UK
>
>
> PLEASE TURN YOUR WEAPONS ON YOUR COMMANDERS AND LEAVE
Very very dodgy ground there proma1, inciting murder!
Very dodgy, quick phone your local nut house and get yourself sectioned,
quick do it now before they break down your door.
Quickly man!:-))
John Gilbert
<jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I could
>identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who expressed the
>opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never expressed them again.
>************************************************
What a lovely chap!
Regards,
John G
________________________
It's Time For Change
Vote B.N.P. On June 10th
www.bnp.org.uk
________________________
Guig
> 1) Many people in this newsgroup seem to think each British and
> American Soldier is taking part in a shameful act and is putting his
> life in danger (with the possibility of losing it) in that context.
The shameful act was that of our so-called leaders sending the troops into a
poorly thought out and illegal conflict. I doubt anyone thinks that the
troops themselves are committing "shameful acts" by following their orders.
> 2) Many people in this newsgroup indicate, in view of (1), they would
> rather see Saddam's power left undisturbed than the Iraqi people
> relieved of his barbarity and given the chance to join the free and
> democratic nations - and become prosperous as a result.
I'm sure you can name those who "would rather see Saddam's power left
undisturbed" then.
> 3) Many people in this newsgroup who hold the sentiments contained
> in (1) and (2) express a delight whenever there is an announcement of
> a British and/or an American Soldier killed - and therefore imply the
> support of those (classed as terrorist) who are doing the killing.
And again you'd be pretty much wrong.
> 4) Many people in this newsgroup, in the context of (1), (2) and (3),
> are undermining the morale of men who have the most dangerous task
> possible; and these men are, in terms of morale, deeply affected by
> the delight expressed when one of their comrades is killed - since
> they know that delight would also be expressed if they were killed.
You were talking pish in (3) and are still talking pish in (4).
> ---------------------------------------------------
> So, from the above four points, what would be my attitude if I
> happened to be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier)
> in Iraq?
Unfortunately you're not brave enough to volunteer to serve in the military
so your "attitude" is pretty meaningless.
> It would be this:
> If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I
> could identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who
> expressed the opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never
> expressed them again.
Ah, there's nothing like freedom of speech is there, well, not when you've
got gutless wee shitebags like you willing to kill folk if they disagree
with you. You'd never have the guts to approach anyone from the newsgroup.
Typical wee tough guy spewing threats from behind their PC screen.
--
Guig
Oh for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen.
Guig
> What a lovely chap!
>
And this from someone promoting a bunch of racist thugs for government.
Splendid.
> Regards,
> John G
> ________________________
> It's Time For Change
> Vote B.N.P. On June 10th
> www.bnp.org.uk
> ________________________
Shouldn't you be out with your Combat 18 pals?
Fed Up
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in
> Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would gain
the
> following impressions from many postings:
<snip>
I suggest you redirect your vituperation at Gangsters #1 & 2: Bush and his
poodle.
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Eugene Victor Tooms
> yes any serving serviceman is an oppurtunist money grabber
You really are very silly.
> lovely money,wife and kids well looked after by the state on some barracks.
So is the wife provided by the state? You seem to be implying that.
> the oppurtunity to show they have not grown up,any man who equates being a
> man with playing with toys to kill others has seriously lost the plot.
Welcome to my killfile. You are very sick. Get help.
--
Eugene Victor Tooms
An SXB Production
proma1
i was under the impression that i was allowed to say and beleive in anything
in this demcoracy of ours,dear me got it wrong again.
must remember to be more of a hyprocrite.
wife provided by state,just saw that well maybe they should be,no we are
supporting these guys and girls and there families,they get help left right
and centre cause ther loved one is away,of own choice of course.
"Eugene Victor Tooms" <eugen...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aeb35f99...@news.individual.net...
proma1
what i meant.
you know i get words mixed up often,there is loads of evidence in this and
indeed my own groups of that.
so no incitement to murder,what would be the point of them shooting there
commanders,i just want to lay down weapons in a big shoe of strength and
leave.
do something more peacusful with there life
i may join nu labour,does that equate with being sectioned!!
"Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote in message
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Wotan
"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
You should be ashamed of this post !
The position is perfectly clear. The British soldiers and
their officers have behaved with courage and skill, limiting the
damage to civilians and attempting to bring peace to the region
by tact and diplomacy. And we would expect no less of
our peerless armed forces, who are the best in the world.
The Jewish controlled Yanks, on the other hand, have behaved
arrogantly, disgracefully and stupidly, inciting hatred and
detestation. And they are reaping the fruits of their arrogance
and idiocy.
For which, they have earned the open contempt and loathing
of the British soldiers.
Now take your Zionist propaganda and shove it up your arse !
Wotan
"Eugene Victor Tooms" <eugen...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aeb35f99...@news.individual.net...
Zionist pig !
Wotan
> oh sorry
>
> i was under the impression that i was allowed to say and beleive in
anything
> in this demcoracy of ours,dear me got it wrong again.
>
YOU ARE !
Don't take any notice of the Zionist propaganda pig that
presently calls itself "Tooms".
This is the illegal Jewish immigrant "Kit Spanos" - and if
he is not very careful he will annoy me enough to take the
time to issue a general enquiry into his legal status in this
country and into what benefits he is receiving and whether
he is properly entitled to them or not.
Wotan
"Guig" <yerawsittin@home> wrote in message
news:108220400...@doris.uk.clara.net...
Well said, Jock !
(Oh, bugger ! Now I'll have to cut my tongue out.)
Eugene Victor Tooms
>
> "Eugene Victor Tooms" <eugen...@lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1aeb35f99...@news.individual.net...
> > In article <RZ7gc.47$tq5.38@newsfe1-win>, pro...@ntlworld.com
> says...
> > > yes any serving serviceman is an oppurtunist money grabber
> >
>
Though no comment on proma1's claim that all servicemen are
"oppurtunist money grabbers".
So we can assume you agree with him then?
Eugene Victor Tooms
> Well said, Jock !
>
> (Oh, bugger ! Now I'll have to cut my tongue out.)
Just make it your typing fingers instead.
Greg Hennessy
<eugen...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>So is the wife provided by the state? You seem to be implying that.
>
Rather hypocritally, given that its self documented 'little' problem.
>> the oppurtunity to show they have not grown up,any man who equates being a
>> man with playing with toys to kill others has seriously lost the plot.
>
>Welcome to my killfile. You are very sick. Get help.
It went into mine ages ago. Hypocritical self pity is something one cannot
abide in an adult.
greg
--
"vying with Platt for the largest gap
between capability and self perception"
Maria
wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 13:40:02 +0100, Eugene Victor Tooms
><eugen...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>So is the wife provided by the state? You seem to be implying that.
>>
>
>Rather hypocritally, given that its self documented 'little' problem.
He already said he lives with his parents.
He seems to be implying that the state pays for military wives and
families.
The Rifleman
> yes any serving serviceman is an oppurtunist money grabber
> lovely money,wife and kids well looked after by the state on some
barracks.
>
Hotblack Desiato
"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
in
> Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would gain
the
> following impressions from many postings:
> ---------------------------------------------
> 1) Many people in this newsgroup seem to think each British and
> American Soldier is taking part in a shameful act and is putting his life
in
> danger (with the possibility of losing it) in that context.
The only time I've seen the acts of soldiers being described as despicable,
is when those acts are despicable .. such as shooting at civilians, beating
up civilians etc
> 2) Many people in this newsgroup indicate, in view of (1), they would
rather
> see Saddam's power left undisturbed than the Iraqi people relieved of his
> barbarity and given the chance to join the free and democratic nations -
and
> become prosperous as a result.
That's working on several incorrect assumptions. The most important ones
being that this is about freeing the people of Iraq, that we have a
democracy in our own countries and that what we are spreading to others
resembles democracy.. I can't acept this as a possibility .. you can't
impose democracy and you can't give freedom .. they're not products for sale
> 3) Many people in this newsgroup who hold the sentiments contained in (1)
> and (2) express a delight whenever there is an announcement of a British
> and/or an American Soldier killed - and therefore imply the support of
those
> (classed as terrorist) who are doing the killing.
well, I agree that's inexcusable. The soldiers in Iraq are very much the
victims of this idiotic crusade as well
> 4) Many people in this newsgroup, in the context of (1), (2) and (3), are
> undermining the morale of men who have the most dangerous task possible;
and
> these men are, in terms of morale, deeply affected by the delight
expressed
> when one of their comrades is killed - since they know that delight would
> also be expressed if they were killed.
we have no duty to do so.. To expand on what you're suggesting, the
civilians of the west must therefor support and stand with the military,
regardless of what operation they might be involved in, as you're suggesting
we shouldn't have the right to disagree for fear of undermining morale...
Now, what if the military were used to forcefully control the civilians of
the UK?.. are we expected to support them in this instance as well, in case
they feel like crying themselves to sleep over the lack of understanding?...
would you support them in this instance?.. I'd bloody well hope not but if
not, why not? .. why would that be an exception?..
And that is the foundation of the counter-argument, we are not under
military dictatorship, therefor we have the right to whole-heartedly
disapprove of military operations which are morally indefensible.. long may
it continue. You speak of freedom with no clear idea what it means
> ---------------------------------------------------
> So, from the above four points, what would be my attitude if I happened to
> be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in Iraq?
> It would be this:
> If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I could
> identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who expressed
the
> opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never expressed them again.
>
More Daily Mail freedom ?.. no wonder the Muslims think our 'freedom' and
'democracy' is a load of bollocks...
billy
>
> i may join nu labour,does that equate with being sectioned!!
>
Yes, but judging from the standard of your literacy, you would not be able
to fill in the form. But you made be excused on the basis of you being "not
properly balanced". And this is why you have such a bizarre view of the
people who defend your freedom.
************************
billy
"Wotan" <Wo...@Valhalla.net> wrote in message news:4081...@212.67.96.135...
Well, now! Such crudity! "Shove it up your arse?" I think you are confusing
me with one Jonathan Bratt (who would, I presume, gain pleasure from the
act).
However:
How do you know that the American allies of the British troops "have earned
the open contempt and loathing of the British soldiers"?
(Details of survey would be appreciated)
You are obviously young and immature. Once - when the world had more sense -
it was considered "traitorous" to question the "rightfulness" of the troops
in battle. They have enough to do in fighting the battle without their
morale and confidence being undermined by a "fifth column" who give comfort
and support to the enemy that is trying to kill them (as indicated in my
posting which contains common-sense and patriotism - two sentiments I am
proud to possess and express).
But to the point:
When our brave lads are in battle, what you should do is wait until the
conflict is over and then raise whatever objection you may have. If you do
not do this, you are behaving in terms of my original posting.
Because of that, you have been noted as one of the "Despicables".
***************************************************
billy
"Guig" <yerawsittin@home> wrote in message
news:108220400...@doris.uk.clara.net...
It seems you are more of a headless chicken than a battery hen.
However:
1) I serve 8 years in the Royal Marines as a *volunteer* (have you ever done
similar - so as to know what you are talking about from experience?).
2) Those who behave in a traitorous manner whilst our troops are fighting
for their lives and our (including your) freedom give comfort to the enemy
and therefore they ally themselves with the enemy - and it is justifiable
and right to "despatch" an enemy.
3) Extremism in the defence of democratic order is no vice.
Moderation in its defence is no virtue.
4) In accordance with (2) you have been noted as one of the "despicables".
**************************
billy
"Fed Up" <returnt...@MtEverest.peak> wrote in message
news:gl9gc.1248$E41.13...@news-text.cableinet.net...
> "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > If I happened to be serving as a British Soldier (or an American
Soldier)
> in
> > Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would gain
> the
> > following impressions from many postings:
>
> <snip>
> I suggest you redirect your vituperation at Gangsters #1 & 2: Bush and his
> poodle.
>
> --
No!
Our brave lads are out there fighting to deny terrorist any possibility of
establishing themselves in the crucial area of the Middle East. They know
that. That fact that you have not the wit or wisdom to recognise that
indicates you are one of the "despicables".
But in your case, it seems due to lack of intellect rather than an act of
malice.
No wonder you are Fed Up.
***********************
billy
"John Gilbert" <john.gil...@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:t552809s6eopiopkt...@4ax.com...
It seems strange that a obvious member of the BNP(which I assumed had a
policy of "ultra" patriotism) should condone behaviour which undermines the
morale of British troops in Battle?
However:
As I pointed out to that Weirdo with the tag ChrisX: Nu-BNP is getting more
like the Socialist Workers.
(You have been noted as one of the "despicables".)
*****************************
billy
Those who break any law must be prepared to face the consequences.
However, I am sure if such a circumstance - within the "spirit" of my
original posting - should happen, the jury would see the act was done as an
act of patriotism against those who would undermine the security of the
State.
On their "judgement" they would recognise the following:
Extremism in the defence of democratic order is no vice.
Moderation in its defence is no virtue.
billy
> we know you are ex marines so although they are slightly better than
> some,they and all military do not think for themsleves,they have to wait
for
> orders to do things
>
> right lads,toilet time
>
> willies out 1/2/3
> point in pan 1/2/3
> piss,wait for it piss now.
>
> welll many of us cannot understand orders from anyone,i do as i see fit i
am
> not going to have someone else dare to tell me what to do.
>
> britsh serviceman are good at getting drunking/fighting/raping/sexual
> abuse/beating there wives up oh yes join the services and get paid for
being
> a thug
>
>
> save your bullets for your wife and kids and yourself,you should be
ashamed
> for being associatoed with modern military,yes world war one and two,there
> was no choice and conscription saw many to war, ihave respect for them.
>
> but nowadays sorry,you join you take the shit,dont expect me to worry
about
> you
>
****************
It is obvious you have never been in any military organisation or even in a
position of danger.
On the battlefield - the ultimate situation of danger - no-one would survive
very long without a high capacity to think quickly and use their own
initiative. The obeying of orders are *not* reduced to the "fanciful level"
you suggest, but are related to general discipline and the needs of the
overall strategies.
You obviously did not see the TV film during the week about the "Cockleshell
Heroes" - which showed Royal Marines rowing canoes in order to enter an
enemy port to sink their ships.
Awaiting "orders" at each move would not have been very "effective".
(You have been noted as one of the "despicables".)
billy
> yes any serving serviceman is an oppurtunist money grabber
>
>
barracks.
>
>
> man with playing with toys to kill others has seriously lost the plot.
>
>
> are terrorists,they are attacking and killing people against wishes of
> united nations.
>
>
> i they get what they reap,what di they join up for,no one asked them
> to,probsably many join up to eascape going to prison and take the easy way
> out,finding that killing hurtung and maiming does not pay the rent,they
join
> the military and get paid for doing it.
>
> a message for all servicemen from the UK
>
>
> PLEASE TURN YOUR WEAPONS ON YOUR COMMANDERS AND LEAVE
>
>
**************************
To advocate that our troops should commit a mutinous act in battle is
traitorous and therefore constitutes a serious offence.
(You have been noted as one of the "despicables" - but one who has a limited
capacity to think.)
**************************
Chris X
Lucky Proma ! Of course Billy, the "Cockleshell Heroes" were the pioneers
of suicide bombing. The oppressed, outgunned Palestinian people are inspired
by the courage of those men who laid down their own lives to bomb the evil,
all-conquering enemy.
(Lights blue touch paper and retires immediately).
abelard
<jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk>
typed:
>If I happened to be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in
>Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would gain the
>following impressions from many postings:
>---------------------------------------------
>1) Many people in this newsgroup seem to think each British and
>American Soldier is taking part in a shameful act and is putting his life in
>danger (with the possibility of losing it) in that context.
>2) Many people in this newsgroup indicate, in view of (1), they would rather
>see Saddam's power left undisturbed than the Iraqi people relieved of his
>barbarity and given the chance to join the free and democratic nations - and
>become prosperous as a result.
>3) Many people in this newsgroup who hold the sentiments contained in (1)
>and (2) express a delight whenever there is an announcement of a British
>and/or an American Soldier killed - and therefore imply the support of those
>(classed as terrorist) who are doing the killing.
>4) Many people in this newsgroup, in the context of (1), (2) and (3), are
>undermining the morale of men who have the most dangerous task possible; and
>these men are, in terms of morale, deeply affected by the delight expressed
>when one of their comrades is killed - since they know that delight would
>also be expressed if they were killed.
i think you are wrong about 4)....i cannot see many in the military
taking the bunch of immature and losers to whom you refer with
any seriousness....
every country has its weak reeds....
>---------------------------------------------------
>So, from the above four points, what would be my attitude if I happened to
>be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in Iraq?
>It would be this:
>If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I could
>identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who expressed the
>opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never expressed them again.
>************************************************
i regard that as intemperate....
let them sound off a little...
it gets it out of their systems...some of them grow up eventually....
others express their incoherent impotence here rather than bashing
up on old ladies on the streets....
britain imv is quite strong enuf to rise above these empty heads....
you must look carefully...there are in fact *very* few of them posting
here....i doubt it is more than a dozen or two....
several of those are clearly on the far edge of sanity....
others are obviously posting under several names....
you worry too much...
irak is steadily being freed...madsam has been removed....
that is the real world...
no-one sane takes these idiots very seriously....
let them shuffle up whitehall....and tell themselves they are relevant...
regards..
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proma1
yes again we are talking the bravery and dedication of the heroes as i see
all them both at home and fighting in the two world wars.
i was in one part of armed services,but i was working for CND at the time
and it was vital that certain things they needed to know were passed
on,never any classified info as i never was priviliged to such stuff
"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
Bigot
> i remember being told about free speech,turn your weapons in and leave is
> what i meant.
>
> you know i get words mixed up often,there is loads of evidence in this and
> indeed my own groups of that.
>
> so no incitement to murder,what would be the point of them shooting there
> commanders,i just want to lay down weapons in a big shoe of strength and
> leave.
>
> do something more peacusful with there life
>
> i may join nu labour,does that equate with being sectioned!!
Most definitely:-))
Bigot
>
> "proma1" <pro...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:c_9gc.63$uo2.38@newsfe1-win...
> >
> > i may join nu labour,does that equate with being sectioned!!
> >
> ************************
> Yes, but judging from the standard of your literacy, you would not be able
> to fill in the form. But you made be
Oh! the Irony, the delicious mouth-watering IRONY:-))
I'll just bet he cannot spot it:-))
Bigot
The Irony, I cannot believe it, two in one thread:-))
Bigot
There were Two RM survivors, the Chief and his companion, how convenient!
Bigot
with would have kicked your arse from Deal to Dover and back again without
breaking a sweat:-))
Bigot
"Guig" <yerawsittin@home> wrote in message
news:108220400...@doris.uk.clara.net...
> > What a lovely chap!
> >
>
> And this from someone promoting a bunch of racist thugs for government.
> Splendid.
Exactly!, Billy Brain Dead wants British Soldiers to commit murder on the
streets of the UK whilst defending free speech.
The thing is a cretin and if you support his ideals,so are you!
>
> > Regards,
> > John G
> > ________________________
> > It's Time For Change
> > Vote B.N.P. On June 10th
> > www.bnp.org.uk
> > ________________________
>
>
Yes he is going Scotch bashing tonight, fancy a good kicking?:-))
Bigot
"Guig" <yerawsittin@home> wrote in message
news:108220400...@doris.uk.clara.net...
'Kin Hell!
This umble pie sure tastes good Mr Guig sir:-))
Have you any sorry water to wash it down with?
I should have read your reply to brain dead billy before opening my big
mouth:-((
Apologies proffered!
Bigot
>
> Our brave lads are out there fighting to deny terrorist any possibility of
> establishing themselves in the crucial area of the Middle East.
the Iraqis owning their own land.
Chris X
This is entertainment with a capital "E", LOL !
Bigot
>
> "Wotan" <Wo...@Valhalla.net> wrote in message
news:4081...@212.67.96.135...
> >
> > "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> How do you know that the American allies of the British troops "have
earned
> the open contempt and loathing of the British soldiers"?
It has been reported on the BBC, in the Times and Independent but NOT in the
daily sport.
That'll explain how you missed it!
abelard
typed:
>i was in one part of armed services,but i was working for CND at the time
>and it was vital that certain things they needed to know were passed
>on,never any classified info as i never was priviliged to such stuff
if it wasn't classified...why did they 'need' it passed on.
The Rifleman
centre or left of centre even remotely grasp the concept of freedom.
Fed Up
>
> "Fed Up" <returnt...@MtEverest.peak> wrote in message
> news:gl9gc.1248$E41.13...@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > > If I happened to be serving as a British Soldier (or an American
> Soldier)
> > in
> > > Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would
gain
> > the
> > > following impressions from many postings:
> >
> > <snip>
> > I suggest you redirect your vituperation at Gangsters #1 & 2: Bush and
his
> > poodle.
> >
> > --
> ***********************
> No!
Yes. Get an education about them, they are traitorous scum putting their
respective forces in harms way under the pretense of [list various lies
here, starting with WMD].
> Our brave lads are out there
That traitorous scum Bliar has let enough terrorists in ***here*** with an
open borders policy. Wake up.
> fighting to deny terrorist any possibility of
> establishing themselves in the crucial area of the Middle East.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
> They know that.
They have been *lied* to, and you have been gullible and naive enough to
believe Bliar! Bliar, Bliar, Bliar, let that sink in. *He* can't be trusted.
> That fact that you have not the wit or wisdom to recognise that
> indicates you are one of the "despicables".
That's the kind of line I expect from Bliar and simpleton Bush.
> But in your case, it seems due to lack of intellect rather than an act of
> malice.
How condescending, or rather lacking in understanding. Come on billy, can't
you recognise lying politicians?
> No wonder you are Fed Up.
> ***********************
Quite, with the liars from the likes of Bliar and Bush, singing from the
same song sheet. They stink to high heaven.
--
© 2003. All rights reserved. No part of my post may be used or reproduced in
any form or by any means, or stored in a commercial database or retrieval
system (except bona fide Internet Service Providers for the purpose of
providing access to its non-commercial subscribers, which provider’s main
business is providing that service, Microsoft being expressly barred from
storing any part of my posts), without prior written permission from myself.
Making copies of any part of my posts for any purpose whatsoever is a
violation of my rights under copyright laws.
proma1
would all be information on a relevant website,but in those days,it was not.
so it was my training manuals thats all
"abelard" <abe...@abelard.org> wrote in message
news:ul0380512p4jpvjr8...@4ax.com...
Fed Up
> Once - when the world had more sense -
You mean like in the dark ages of the last century, when for instance, in
WW1 brave and good men were senselessly sent to their deaths for the
idiotic, gutless, criminal generals, wave after wave into machinegun fire,
because the general's tactics were so bereft of intelligence and
consideration for the welfare of their men.
> it was considered "traitorous" to question the "rightfulness" of the
troops
> in battle.
I don't question the soldiers but their higher up commanders and the
politicians above them.
> They have enough to do in fighting the battle without their
> morale and confidence being undermined by a "fifth column" who give
comfort
> and support to the enemy that is trying to kill them (as indicated in my
> posting which contains common-sense and patriotism - two sentiments I am
> proud to possess and express).
> But to the point:
> When our brave lads are in battle, what you should do is wait until the
> conflict is over and then raise whatever objection you may have. If you do
> not do this, you are behaving in terms of my original posting.
> Because of that, you have been noted as one of the "Despicables".
> ***************************************************
Let me quote you what Andy McNab said in the D Mirror on Feb 06 2004:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13920518_method=full_s
iteid=50143_headline=-THE%2DBETRAYAL%2DOF%2DOUR%2DTROOPS-name_page.html
"...most of what we do overseas is about maintaining UK commerce - it's
about people making money, not for her Majesty or the greater good." And:
"But dying for a flawed cause is a different matter." Furthermore: "The next
time a conflict comes along in which British troops are asked to fight, it
will be the surviving soldiers' families who'll ask their men whether they
are willing to go out and do it again for what might be another lie."
Leighton Jones
> Lucky Proma ! Of course Billy, the "Cockleshell Heroes" were the pioneers
> of suicide bombing. The oppressed, outgunned Palestinian people are
inspired
> by the courage of those men who laid down their own lives to bomb the
evil,
> all-conquering enemy.
>
> (Lights blue touch paper and retires immediately).
>
I know the odds for the "Cockleshell Heroes" were short, but I don't think
they were suicide bombers. I'm sure a few of them survived, there was a
Commander Banks in Plymouth who was a "Cockleshell Hero".
I'm not even sure if a "Westerner" could ever be a Suicide bomber. Tend to
value their own lives a bit differently.
Cheers LJ.
abelard
typed:
>it was not publsihed information,nowadays with the internet dare say it
>would all be information on a relevant website,but in those days,it was not.
>
>
>so it was my training manuals thats all
doubtless marked 'restricted'...
Bigot
"Leighton Jones" <leigh...@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:KSigc.940$tq5.215@newsfe1-win...
strange idea.
Leighton Jones
can't remember one instance of a an Allies serviceman being a suicide
bomber, in fact most of the goodies in my comics came home against
tremendous odds covered in glory.
There were those Japanese Pilots with a certain disregard for their own
lives, but they are the only ones I can remember.
Which Comics were you reading??
Cheers LJ.
Bigot
erstwhile German brutal air ace in his Messerschmitt 109 and exploding in
flames et al:-))
Fran
> "proma1" <pro...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:RZ7gc.47$tq5.38@newsfe1-win...
> > yes any serving serviceman is an oppurtunist money grabber
> >
> >
> > lovely money,wife and kids well looked after by the state on some
> barracks.
> >
> >
> > the oppurtunity to show they have not grown up,any man who equates being a
> > man with playing with toys to kill others has seriously lost the plot.
> >
> >
> > who cares about there morale,they are breaking the law by being there,they
> > are terrorists,they are attacking and killing people against wishes of
> > united nations.
> >
> >
> > i they get what they reap,what di they join up for,no one asked them
> > to,probsably many join up to eascape going to prison and take the easy way
> > out,finding that killing hurtung and maiming does not pay the rent,they
> join
> > the military and get paid for doing it.
> >
> > a message for all servicemen from the UK
> >
> >
> > PLEASE TURN YOUR WEAPONS ON YOUR COMMANDERS AND LEAVE
>
> Very dodgy, quick phone your local nut house and get yourself sectioned,
> quick do it now before they break down your door.
> Quickly man!:-))
Wasn't the OP providing an alibi to a hypothetical soldier who wanted
to kill those whose opinions he/she found offensive?
FRAN
Bigot
"Fran" <franb...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:95f168b0.04041...@posting.google.com...
Operations Post?
billy
Well, now! Ain't you a clever little Bigot. You spotted I used the word
"made" instead of the intended word "may".
Typing errors, wrong word usage etc happens all the time in the heat of
typing quickly - and we can all indulge in the business of nit-picking to
avoid addressing the issue..
For instance: the sentence you used in this thread: (There were Two RM
survivors, the Chief and his companion, how convenient!) did not need the
word "Two" capitalised; and the sentence would have been much better and
have a more correct form if presented in this way
There were two RM survivors: the Chief and his companion. How convenient!
(explanation: a colon after survivors and the last part of sentence
separated to make it a comment in its own right.)
However: please supply reasons why you should not be considered despicable
when you engage in the process of undermining the morale of our troops in
Iraq.
************************
billy
You are perfectly correct.
However, the Socialist Workers in this newsgroup have their own "way of
seeing things".
****************
billy
"Chris X" <chr...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:u5idnanzZbq...@giganews.com...> news:c5rmmu$m2$7...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > enemy port to sink their ships.
> > Awaiting "orders" at each move would not have been very "effective".
> > (You have been noted as one of the "despicables".)
> > ***************************
>
> Lucky Proma ! Of course Billy, the "Cockleshell Heroes" were the pioneers
> of suicide bombing. The oppressed, outgunned Palestinian people are
inspired
> by the courage of those men who laid down their own lives to bomb the
evil,
> all-conquering enemy.
>
> (Lights blue touch paper and retires immediately).
>
>
The interpretation one would expect from a committed Socialist Worker.
*****************
billy
"hummingbird" <YPREUA...@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:dl7380d5vb4qmd49t...@4ax.com...
>
> >> If I happened to be serving as a British Soldier (or an American
Soldier)
>
> Well why aren't you billy.? We know why because you are a fake,
> claiming to have been in the RMs 30 years ago but as yet have never
> provided any evidence of it, despite being asked countless times.
>
> And surprise surprise, you didn't accuse us of wanting to eat all
> the dead Americans.
>
> --
> Respect is not available on demand, it has to be earned.
> A simple fact that few understand or accept.
***********************************
You would earn respect if you gave up the idiotic religious belief which
makes you condone paedophilia; necrophilia; cannibalism and sadistic
brutality and have the need to falsify postings to avoid facing the results
of your stupidity (references given on request).
What will also be given on request is the proof of my military service which
is a "glory" to behold.
(The 30 years which you idiotically assume is not relevant.)
***********************************
billy
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 19:44:45 +0100, "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com>
> mysteriously appeared thru the usenet mist to inform us thus...> >news:c5rmmp$m2$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >> >
> >> > i may join nu labour,does that equate with being sectioned!!
> >> >
> >> ************************
> >> Yes, but judging from the standard of your literacy, you would not be
able
> >> to fill in the form. But you made be
> >
> >Oh! the Irony, the delicious mouth-watering IRONY:-))
> >I'll just bet he cannot spot it:-))
>
> correcting others about theirs. He's a loony.
**********************
In the "heat" of typing, mistakes are made; and it is only nit-picking
idiots - who cannot address the issue - who make an issue of that.
However, a mistake in typing is certainly nothing when compared with a
dangerous idiot (yourself) who condones paedophilia; necrophilia;
cannibalism and sadistic brutality and has the need to falsify postings to
avoid facing the results of that stupidity (references given on request).
***********************
billy
>
> "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c5rmmu$m2$6...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >
> > However, I am sure if such a circumstance - within the "spirit" of my
> > original posting - should happen, the jury would see the act was done as
> an
> > act of patriotism against those who would undermine the security of the
> > State.
> > On their "judgement" they would recognise the following:
> > Extremism in the defence of democratic order is no vice.
> > Moderation in its defence is no virtue.
> > (You have been noted as one of the "despicables".)
> >
> with would have kicked your arse from Deal to Dover and back again without
> breaking a sweat:-))
>
I suggest you use the word "boring" to denote what is - to you - an
unacceptable truth.
You exhibit all the signs of a person frustrated by an inability to refute
the original issue.
Address the issue.
Give reasons why your part in the process of undermining the morale of the
troops in Iraq (and thereby assisting terrorists) should not be considered
despicable?
I await a (sensible?) response.
**********************
billy
> >"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:c5rmmu$m2$6...@sparta.btinternet.com...
>
> >> original posting - should happen, the jury would see the act was done
as
> >an
> >> act of patriotism against those who would undermine the security of the
> >> State.
>
> *the State*. Our master and mentor. Not
>
> >Billy Brain Dead you have been noted as boring,...
>
> He's brain-dead for sure. Most worrying is his liking for fascism.
> No wonder he was drummed out of the catering corps.
************************
The Lame Duck comes out of its hiding to quack.
May I remind you that the person you label "brain-dead" is the one who
outwitted you to the point of making you admit to condoning paedophilia;
necrophilia; cannibalism and sadistic brutality and then had the need to
falsify postings to avoid facing the results of your stupidity (references
given on request).
Anyway: address the issue and give reasons why you should not also be class
as one of the despicable (besides being classed as an idiot).
*************************
billy
> >
> > It is obvious you have never been in any military organisation or even
in
> a
> > position of danger.
> > On the battlefield - the ultimate situation of danger - no-one would
> survive
> > very long without a high capacity to think quickly and use their own
> > initiative. The obeying of orders are *not* reduced to the "fanciful
> level"
> > you suggest, but are related to general discipline and the needs of the
> > overall strategies.
> > You obviously did not see the TV film during the week about the
> "Cockleshell
> > Heroes"
> There were Two RM survivors, the Chief and his companion, how convenient!
>
If you saw the film, you missed the point.
The point was that besides sinking ships crucial to the German war effort,
the infiltration into a heavily protected enemy harbour to sink six ships
forced the Germans to divert even more resources towards the protection of
their harbours.
However; you are obviously a Marxist/Communist who believes there was some
"dastardly, class involved, plot" in the survival of the project's leader.
You tell us all how this amazingly clever result was managed?
Also, please give the number of ships sunk by the "Resistance".
Additionally: please state the reasons why you should not be classed as a
despicable who engages in the process of trying to undermine the morale of
the troops in Iraq.
**********************
Bigot
>
> "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote in message
> news:c5rudr$554sp$1...@ID-229054.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
I don't have to give reasons to you Brain dead Billy, you are the NGs butt
of all jokes.
abelard
<jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk>
typed:
>I await a (sensible?) response.
dream on...he has but one pre-occupation...
regards.
Bigot
>
> "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote in message
> news:c5ru94$53ijo$1...@ID-229054.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> Additionally: please state the reasons
I don't have to give you any reasons Brain Dead Billy, you are an
anachronism, out of time.
Bigot
>
> "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote in message
> news:c5rtur$52kjk$1...@ID-229054.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
Brain dead Billy it would be a waste of my time giving you reasons, seeing
as how reasoning is completely beyond you, your time has passed, be grateful
you have so little time left to you and do what all old warriors do,
smell:-))
Old soldiers never die,they just smell that way:-))
Bigot
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 13:53:05 +0000 (UTC), "billy"
> <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk>
>
> typed:
>
> >I await a (sensible?) response.
>
> dream on...he has but one pre-occupation...
Quite right, how can anyone respond to brain-dead billy?
abelard
typed:
seewhadimean....
regards...
John Gilbert
<jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"proma1" <pro...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:h38gc.48$tq5.8@newsfe1-win...
>> we know you are ex marines so although they are slightly better than
>> some,they and all military do not think for themsleves,they have to wait
>for
>> orders to do things
>>
>> right lads,toilet time
>>
>> willies out 1/2/3
>> point in pan 1/2/3
>> piss,wait for it piss now.
>>
>> welll many of us cannot understand orders from anyone,i do as i see fit i
>am
>> not going to have someone else dare to tell me what to do.
>>
>> britsh serviceman are good at getting drunking/fighting/raping/sexual
>> abuse/beating there wives up oh yes join the services and get paid for
>being
>> a thug
>>
>>
>> save your bullets for your wife and kids and yourself,you should be
>ashamed
>> for being associatoed with modern military,yes world war one and two,there
>> was no choice and conscription saw many to war, ihave respect for them.
>>
>> but nowadays sorry,you join you take the shit,dont expect me to worry
>about
>> you
>>
>****************
>It is obvious you have never been in any military organisation or even in a
>position of danger.
>On the battlefield - the ultimate situation of danger - no-one would survive
>very long without a high capacity to think quickly and use their own
>initiative. The obeying of orders are *not* reduced to the "fanciful level"
>you suggest, but are related to general discipline and the needs of the
>overall strategies.
>You obviously did not see the TV film during the week about the "Cockleshell
>Heroes" - which showed Royal Marines rowing canoes in order to enter an
>enemy port to sink their ships.
>Awaiting "orders" at each move would not have been very "effective".
>(You have been noted as one of the "despicables".)
>***************************
Goodness me! Billy has a bullet for everyone, it would appear.
________________________
It's Time For Change
Vote B.N.P. On June 10th
www.bnp.org.uk
________________________
Guig
>> Shouldn't you be out with your Combat 18 pals?
>
> Yes he is going Scotch bashing tonight, fancy a good kicking?:-))
He'd better bring his fekkin pals then.
--
Guig
Oh for the wings of any bird, other than a battery hen.
Guig
> 1) I serve 8 years in the Royal Marines as a *volunteer*
No you never, you keep making this claim, which, frankly, anyone could
claim.
> (have you
> ever done similar - so as to know what you are talking about from
> experience?).
Yes.
2) Those who behave in a traitorous manner whilst our
> troops are fighting for their lives and our (including your) freedom
How is my "freedom" being saved by our troops being in Iraq?
> give comfort to the enemy and therefore they ally themselves with the
> enemy - and it is justifiable and right to "despatch" an enemy.
I'm sure you'll be able to post links to posts where I "give comfort to the
enemy".
> 3) Extremism in the defence of democratic order is no vice.
> Moderation in its defence is no virtue.
Extremism in any form, especially when it espouses using violence to achieve
its aims is reprehensible and out with the realms of civilised behaviour.
> 4) In accordance with (2) you have been noted as one of the
> "despicables". **************************
And who the fuck are you to be labelling anyone "despicable". Ypu've proven
yourself many, many times over on these forums to be a racist, a bigot, a
gutless bag of shite and a compulsive liar.
Guig
> "Guig" <yerawsittin@home> wrote in message
> news:108220400...@doris.uk.clara.net...
>
> 'Kin Hell!
> This umble pie sure tastes good Mr Guig sir:-))
> Have you any sorry water to wash it down with?
> I should have read your reply to brain dead billy before opening my
> big mouth:-((
>
> Apologies proffered!
There is no way in hell my views could ever be considered similar to billy
the "racist, bigot, gutless bag of shite and compulsive liar".
Graham Innocent
> So, from the above four points, what would be my attitude if I happened to
> be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in Iraq?
> It would be this:
> If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I could
> identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who expressed the
> opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never expressed them again.
> ************************************************
The thing is Billy, you aren't a serving soldier, anywhere. So you
aren't really qualified to speak for them. There are many members of
the US and UK armed forces who have publicly spoken out against Bush &
Blair's middle east policy and the futility of the war that they're
waging. Do a bit of reading. Don't let the door hit you on the behind
on your way out.
Fran
Original Poster ... (Billy)
FRAN
Bigot
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:05:42 +0100, "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com>
>
> typed:
>
> >"billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:c5u180$l6e$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...
> >>
> >> "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:c5rudr$554sp$1...@ID-229054.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> >
> >> Give reasons
> >I don't have to give reasons to you Brain dead Billy, you are the NGs
butt
>
> seewhadimean....
Have you answered your quiz yet?
Chris X
> > > providing an alibi to a hypothetical soldier who wanted
> > > to kill those whose opinions he/she found offensive?
> > >
> > > FRAN
No, that was just Billy being a tit. As ever.
Bigot
"Graham Innocent" <grah...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:83fdc882.04041...@posting.google.com...
Too late it hit him on the head about sixty years ago.
BTW brain dead billy posts he served eight years with the RMs, so here is a
little test for him:
1/ What is the meaning of the RM motto in English?
2/Why did you serve eight years and what became of the four years?
3/ Why is the rank of Major General below the rank of lieutenant general?
Answers on a post card:-))
Bigot
Yes!
Bigot
"Al" <a.n.ot...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:2nc68018tabl08hio...@4ax.com...
> "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Leighton Jones" <leigh...@virgin.net> wrote in message
> >> >
> >> > "Leighton Jones" <leigh...@virgin.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:KSigc.940$tq5.215@newsfe1-win...
> >> > >
> >> > pioneers
> >> > > > of suicide bombing. The oppressed, outgunned Palestinian people
are
> >> > > inspired
> >> > > > by the courage of those men who laid down their own lives to bomb
> >the
> >> > > evil,
> >> > > > all-conquering enemy.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > (Lights blue touch paper and retires immediately).
> >> > > >
> >> > >
don't
> >> think
> >> > > they were suicide bombers. I'm sure a few of them survived, there
was
> >a
> >> > > Commander Banks in Plymouth who was a "Cockleshell Hero".
> >> > > I'm not even sure if a "Westerner" could ever be a Suicide bomber.
> >Tend
> >> to
> >> > > value their own lives a bit differently.
> >> > > Cheers LJ.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > strange idea.
> >> >
> >> I used to love a good comic, especially those little War, or Cow boy
ones.
> >I
> >> can't remember one instance of a an Allies serviceman being a suicide
> >> bomber, in fact most of the goodies in my comics came home against
> >> tremendous odds covered in glory.
> >> There were those Japanese Pilots with a certain disregard for their own
> >> lives, but they are the only ones I can remember.
> >> Which Comics were you reading??
> >> Cheers LJ.
> >>
> >>
> >The NOBLE RAF pilot nursing his crippled bomber home turning and ramming
his
> >erstwhile German brutal air ace in his Messerschmitt 109 and exploding in
> >flames et al:-))
> >
>
> The NOBLE RAF pilot nursing his crippled Halifax bomber home on two
> engines, ordering his crew to bail out and turning his rapidly
> decending aircraft away from houses looming in his path, crashing and
> dying in the wreckage. VC awarded posthumously. Real life happens,
> comics are for kids.
They shall not enter the kingdom of heaven except as children:-))
Memories are made of this!
The Victor, The Lion, The Beezer plus all the others I cannot recall of the
top of my head, the Eagle:-))
Leighton Jones
"<Snip>
> Too late it hit him on the head about sixty years ago.
> BTW brain dead billy posts he served eight years with the RMs, so here is
a
> little test for him:
> 1/ What is the meaning of the RM motto in English?
> 2/Why did you serve eight years and what became of the four years?
> 3/ Why is the rank of Major General below the rank of lieutenant general?
>
> Answers on a post card:-))
And lastly, What instriment did he play :-)
Cheers LJ.
>
>
billy
I do not know what an "instriment" is?
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billy
"Graham Innocent" <grah...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:83fdc882.04041...@posting.google.com...
> > So, from the above four points, what would be my attitude if I happened
to
> > be serving as a British Soldier (or an American Soldier) in Iraq?
> > It would be this:
> > If I survived, I would make sure I had some rounds left; and, if I could
> > identify any of the despicable bastards in this newsgroup who expressed
the
> > opinions mentioned, I would make sure they never expressed them again.
> >
>
>
> aren't really qualified to speak for them. There are many members of
> the US and UK armed forces who have publicly spoken out against Bush &
> Blair's middle east policy and the futility of the war that they're
> waging. Do a bit of reading. Don't let the door hit you on the behind
> on your way out.
The thing is, you aren't a serving soldier, anywhere. So you aren't really
qualified to speak for them (in your case *against* them).
And please supply details of "many members of the US and UK armed forces who
have publicly spoken out against Bush & Blair's middle east policy and the
"disturbances" in your own mind.
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billy
"Guig" <yerawsittin@home> wrote in message
> billy wrote:
> > 1) I serve 8 years in the Royal Marines as a *volunteer*
>
> No you never, you keep making this claim, which, frankly, anyone could
> claim.
>
> > (have you
> > ever done similar - so as to know what you are talking about from
> > experience?).
>
> Yes.
>
> 2) Those who behave in a traitorous manner whilst our
> > troops are fighting for their lives and our (including your) freedom
>
> How is my "freedom" being saved by our troops being in Iraq?
>
> > give comfort to the enemy and therefore they ally themselves with the
> > enemy - and it is justifiable and right to "despatch" an enemy.
>
> I'm sure you'll be able to post links to posts where I "give comfort to
the
> enemy".
>
> > 3) Extremism in the defence of democratic order is no vice.
> > Moderation in its defence is no virtue.
>
> Extremism in any form, especially when it espouses using violence to
achieve
> its aims is reprehensible and out with the realms of civilised behaviour.
>
> > 4) In accordance with (2) you have been noted as one of the
> > "despicables".
>
proven
> yourself many, many times over on these forums to be a racist, a bigot, a
> gutless bag of shite and a compulsive liar.
>
> --
> Guig
>
I label those who are despicable as being despicable within the terms of my
original posting.
To sum it up: it labels those as despicable who attempt to undermine our
troops' morale whilst they are fighting for their lives (and the lives of
those who are despicably undermining their morale).
You obviously qualify for that label.
(btw: please supply details of the alleged "lies". I will ignore he other
hysterical nonsense you have spewed out in place the reasoned argument you
are unable to offer.)
**********************
billy
The response of a despicable who cannot refute the fact that he is one of
the despicables within the terms of my original posting.
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billy
The response of a despicable who cannot refute the fact that he is one of
********************
billy
"John Gilbert" <john.gil...@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:vr85809peh8l2q3ea...@4ax.com...
Only for those despicable bastards who attempt to undermine our troops'
morale whilst they are fighting for their lives.
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billy
billy
"Chris X" <chr...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
news:NNudnSXbHPM...@giganews.com...
The response of a despicable who cannot refute the fact that he is one of
the despicables within terms of my original posting.
********************
billy
The response of a despicable who cannot refute the fact that he is one of
the despicables within terms of my original posting.
billy
billy
"Hotblack Desiato" <judge...@gatec.fslife.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c5rlt4$fkh$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...> news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
To expand on what you're suggesting, the
> civilians of the west must therefor support and stand with the military,
> regardless of what operation they might be involved in, as you're
suggesting
> we shouldn't have the right to disagree for fear of undermining morale...
>
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A little "illustration" for those who are limited in imagination and
therefore do not realise the implications of what they are doing:
--------------------------
A man is engaged in a lethal fight. Another man, whom the fighting man
represents, does not agree that the fighting man should be fighting.
However, what he does is stand on the sideline and shout such things as:
"You shouldn't be fighting! What you're doing is immoral! You're a duped
fool! You're an idiot! Stop what you're doing! Put down your weapon! Walk
away!"
The ones supporting his opponent hear all this and - in delight - shout out
similar invectives; saying that the man fighting has no support from those
who should be his supporters. The man fighting knows all this and suffers
these distraction at a time when his resolution and morale in the fight is
crucial to his own survival.
---------------------------
The despicables in this newsgroup are of the same kind as the one on the
sideline shouting out the demoralising invectives.
What they should do, in the case of Iraq, is keep silent until the fight is
over. Then they can say all they think they must, when the fight is over.
They can also allow the ones who did the fighting to give their version of
why they did the fighting.
Those who do not follow the simple and honourable rule are despicable
bastards.
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billy
"Fed Up" <returnt...@MtEverest.peak> wrote in message
news:IFhgc.1594$6x5.17...@news-text.cableinet.net...> news:c5rmmq$m2$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Once - when the world had more sense -
>
> You mean like in the dark ages of the last century, when for instance, in
> WW1 brave and good men were senselessly sent to their deaths for the
> idiotic, gutless, criminal generals, wave after wave into machinegun fire,
> because the general's tactics were so bereft of intelligence and
> consideration for the welfare of their men.
>
> > it was considered "traitorous" to question the "rightfulness" of the
> troops
> > in battle.
>
> I don't question the soldiers but their higher up commanders and the
> politicians above them.
>
> > They have enough to do in fighting the battle without their
> > morale and confidence being undermined by a "fifth column" who give
> comfort
> > and support to the enemy that is trying to kill them (as indicated in my
> > posting which contains common-sense and patriotism - two sentiments I am
> > proud to possess and express).
> > But to the point:
> > When our brave lads are in battle, what you should do is wait until the
> > conflict is over and then raise whatever objection you may have. If you
do
> > not do this, you are behaving in terms of my original posting.
> > Because of that, you have been noted as one of the "Despicables".
> >
> Let me quote you what Andy McNab said in the D Mirror on Feb 06 2004:
>
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13920518_method=full_s
> iteid=50143_headline=-THE%2DBETRAYAL%2DOF%2DOUR%2DTROOPS-name_page.html
> "...most of what we do overseas is about maintaining UK commerce - it's
> about people making money, not for her Majesty or the greater good." And:
> "But dying for a flawed cause is a different matter." Furthermore: "The
next
> time a conflict comes along in which British troops are asked to fight, it
> will be the surviving soldiers' families who'll ask their men whether they
> are willing to go out and do it again for what might be another lie."
>
>
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A little "illustration" for those who are limited in imagination and
therefore do not realise the implications of what they are doing:
--------------------------
A man is engaged in a lethal fight. Another man, whom the fighting man
represents, does not agree that the fighting man should be fighting.
However, what he does is stand on the sideline and shout such things as:
"You shouldn't be fighting! What you're doing is immoral! You're a duped
fool! You're an idiot! Stop what you're doing! Put down your weapon! Walk
away!"
The ones supporting his opponent hear all this and - in delight - shout out
similar invectives; saying that the man fighting has no support from those
who should be his supporters. The man fighting knows all this and suffers
these distraction at a time when his resolution and morale in the fight is
crucial to his own survival.
---------------------------
Mirror) are of the same kind as the one on the sideline shouting out the
billy
>
> "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c5rmmq$m2$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >
> news:4081...@212.67.96.135...> > > news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > **************
> > How do you know that the American allies of the British troops "have
> earned
> > the open contempt and loathing of the British soldiers"?
>
> It has been reported on the BBC, in the Times and Independent but NOT in
the
> daily sport.
> That'll explain how you missed it!
>
>
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Please give dates, details and quotes.
******************
billy
"Fed Up" <returnt...@MtEverest.peak> wrote in message
> >
> > "Fed Up" <returnt...@MtEverest.peak> wrote in message
> > > "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:c5r155$j77$2...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Soldier)
> > > in
> > > > Iraq, and happened to find the time to view this newsgroup, I would
> gain
> > > the
> > > > following impressions from many postings:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > I suggest you redirect your vituperation at Gangsters #1 & 2: Bush and
> his
> > > poodle.
> > >
> > > --
> > ***********************
> > No!
>
> Yes. Get an education about them, they are traitorous scum putting their
> respective forces in harms way under the pretense of [list various lies
> here, starting with WMD].
>
> > Our brave lads are out there
>
> That traitorous scum Bliar has let enough terrorists in ***here*** with an
> open borders policy. Wake up.
>
> > fighting to deny terrorist any possibility of
> > establishing themselves in the crucial area of the Middle East.
>
> Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
>
> > They know that.
>
> They have been *lied* to, and you have been gullible and naive enough to
> believe Bliar! Bliar, Bliar, Bliar, let that sink in. *He* can't be
trusted.
>
> > That fact that you have not the wit or wisdom to recognise that
> > indicates you are one of the "despicables".
>
> That's the kind of line I expect from Bliar and simpleton Bush.
>
> > But in your case, it seems due to lack of intellect rather than an act
of
> > malice.
>
> How condescending, or rather lacking in understanding. Come on billy,
can't
> you recognise lying politicians?
>
> > No wonder you are Fed Up.
> >
> Quite, with the liars from the likes of Bliar and Bush, singing from the
> same song sheet. They stink to high heaven.
>
> --
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But you despicables have not in any way presented any evidence of the
invalidity of the "song sheet". All you do it spew out Marxist nonsense and
attempt to demoralise our troops who are fighting for their lives.
***************************
billy
>
> "billy" <jo...@billy100.DELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c5rmmr$m2$3...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >
of
> > establishing themselves in the crucial area of the Middle East.
prevent
> the Iraqis owning their own land.
>
>
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You have not given any evidence that anyone is attempting to "disown" the
Iraqis
billy
> to kill those whose opinions he/she found offensive?
>
> FRAN
What the OP was doing is to describe the justifiable feelings of a person
who was fighting for his life and had despicables trying to undermine his
morale.
****************
billy
> > > traitorous and therefore constitutes a serious offence.
> > > (You have been noted as one of the "despicables" - but one who has a
> > limited
> > > capacity to think.)
> >
> > The Irony, I cannot believe it, two in one thread:-))
>
> This is entertainment with a capital "E", LOL !
>
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The real entertainment is derived from a Socialist Worker (yourself) who
has infiltrated the BNP - and thinks no-one has noticed it.
Dishonesty of that type is despicable.
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