This crap was also the particular favourite of that other
viciously anti-British goyim and malicious subversive, Blair.
There are perhaps less people than there should be who
understand the power and influence of art and architecture
on any society. And the effect that has on the morale,
culture - and ultimately, economy - of a nation.
(When Kublai Kahn, who was nobodies fool, built his
fabulous new city, he was a great pains to attract artists
and writers to his pleasure domes, for exactly that reason.)
But to those who do understand the power of the culture,
the sneeringly subversive and malicious nature of the likes
of Saatchi and the sulphurous pornographers he patronise,
is crystal clear.
We are very well rid of it !
(But no doubt yet another luckless insurer will be ripped
off for the phoney value of this compost heap.)
> I don't know who burnt down the warehouse containing
> the obscene, depraved, immoral, and above all, subversive,
> garbage which the Zionist Saatchi patronises and collects,
> but whoever it was deserves a knighthood for "services to
> British art".
So you now consider arson an acceptable crime then?
> This crap was also the particular favourite of that other
> viciously anti-British goyim and malicious subversive, Blair.
And who was forcing you to look at this crap?
<snip the usual paranoid drivel>
--
steven x brown
http://www.muslimchildrensfund.com/
There's a lot of arson about.
'Burn down the disco!
Hang the blessed DJ
Because the music
That they constantly play
It says nothing to me about my life'
Frankly (Mr Shankley), the 'art' that was lost was a pile of shite.
I had to laugh at the comment from Dinos Chapman:
'I think storage places for art should not be put next to storage places for
acetlyne gas. It seems a very bad idea'.
According to the Torygraph, investigators won't be able to look into the
cause of the fire until this evening because there is still a danger of the
gas canisters exploding.
>I had to laugh at the comment from Dinos Chapman:
>'I think storage places for art should not be put next to storage places for
>acetlyne gas. It seems a very bad idea'.
Listening to the news one would think the louvre had been immolated rather
than an impromptu bonfire of junk peddled by the serota tendency.
greg
--
"vying with Platt for the largest gap
between capability and self perception"
I wonder if Woeful is a Morrissey fan?
> Frankly (Mr Shankley), the 'art' that was lost was a pile of shite.
Indeed.
I wonder is S****i burned it down for the insurance money.
Isn't it just?
The fire from burning art could cause thousands of pounds worth of
damage to valuable acetylene gas cylinders.
Col
--
So where are they, Mr Blair?
And heaven knows Saatchi's miserable now.........
There always has to be some conspiracy with you, doesn't there?
This crap is just pretentious twaddle that for some reason has
convinced some people with more money than sense that it actually
*means* something. It's no more than that. It's harmless.
> This crap was also the particular favourite of that other
> viciously anti-British goyim and malicious subversive, Blair.
Oh, I might have known *he'd* be involved somewhere along
the line.......
> There are perhaps less people than there should be who
> understand the power and influence of art and architecture
> on any society. And the effect that has on the morale,
> culture - and ultimately, economy - of a nation.
But most people in this country either ignore this kind of stuff
or laugh at those idiots that have been taken in by it.
>
> (But no doubt yet another luckless insurer will be ripped
> off for the phoney value of this compost heap.)
No doubt said insurer was aware of the value of the art, assessed
the risk and charged premiums accordingly.
Why are you so determined to sound like a Nazi from the 1930's? This is the
sort of crap that Goering would have come out with. "When I hear the word
"culture" I reach for my gun" etc.
The talentless nobodies who ran the Nazi Party thought that contemporary art
was decadent and that this was due to the pernicious influence of the jews,
and that Aryan art was inspirational and full of powerful images of starry
eyed young people overcoming adversity.
Anyway, the destruction of so many works of art merely raises the price of
the remaining works. Everyone wins, other than the insurers.
Burning of garbage and incinerating toxic waste is not a crime but the
socialy responsible thing to do. Probably an insurance Job though.
>
> > This crap was also the particular favourite of that other
> > viciously anti-British goyim and malicious subversive, Blair.
>
> And who was forcing you to look at this crap?
Art, specifically the mass mechanical reproduction of subversive Art,
was the method that the Jewish communists of the "Institute of Social
Research" (Frankfurt School for short) developed as part of their
"critical theory" to demoralise and alienate western peoples such that
they would be ready to accept revolution. "Critical Theory" is more
commonly known as "political correctness" and it is the toxic garbage
poisoning our children with self hate.
This article explores the origins of political correctness.
http://www.propaganda101.com/SocialPsychology/frankfurt.htm
There is further work on the subject in this book. The preface is
here:
http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm
>
> --
> steven x brown
> http://www.muslimchildrensfund.com/
Do you support the British children fund?
Insurance job....
There... I've said it :)
--
Paris. Not the City
typed:
>But most people in this country either ignore this kind of stuff
>or laugh at those idiots that have been taken in by it.
the 'idiots' who buy this stuff use it as money...it has provenance....
it is hard to duplicate (as if anyone would want to) thus it is
effectively used as a substitute for fiat money....
a money system that has in the past tended to inflate in price
rather than deflate....
it is of course almost all total tripe....unlike some earlier 'modern'
work....
it is not purchased on merit but on signatures....the signatures are
promoted by advertising.....
much off the earlier work was collected by eye.....
now a great deal of it actually attempts to 'shock' or 'offend'...
to be 'controversial'...to get it talked about....
again, advertising......
many of the london galleries are full of the stuff, mostly distinguished
by its lack of merit, aesthetics or even of artisan competence....
imv most of this stuff will in due course devalue....as people in the art
world cease to pretend this stuff is 'significant'...or even 'art' in
any meaningful sense....
maybe that is already happening....
this was a true bonfire of the vanities....
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Snipped what I consider to be a very lucid and worthy condemnation of really
Modern art to concentrate on this little jewel:-)
> this was a true bonfire of the vanities....
Bet the Sun is kicking its own arse over missing this little beauty.
Congratulations old chap, well done! :-))))))))))))))
"I watch the gas and dust rise, and I don't feel like laughing. I'm not sure
why this is. The researcher has a point. British art in the 1990s insisted
on the here and now, never caring much about the future and perhaps never
destined to exist there. In a way, this might be its best fate - to go up in
a blaze of glory, never having to be exhibited in some provincial museum in
30 years' time, as dull as most 1960s pop looks today, to embarrass and bore
our children. Now it can be remembered in the same way as James Dean -
forever young; forever new. Wasn't that what everyone wanted?"
Wanker.
>
>"Wotan" <Wo...@Valhalla.net> wrote in message news:40b4...@212.67.96.135...
>> I don't know who burnt down the warehouse containing
>> the obscene, depraved, immoral, and above all, subversive,
>> garbage which the Zionist Saatchi patronises and collects,
>> but whoever it was deserves a knighthood for "services to
>> British art".
>>
>> This crap was also the particular favourite of that other
>> viciously anti-British goyim and malicious subversive, Blair.
>
>Why are you so determined to sound like a Nazi from the 1930's? This is the
>sort of crap that Goering would have come out with. "When I hear the word
>"culture" I reach for my gun" etc.
>
>The talentless nobodies who ran the Nazi Party thought that contemporary art
>was decadent and that this was due to the pernicious influence of the jews,
Funny that. I never respected Goering and that lot before, but . . .
Which reminds me of a favourite line from PG Wodehouse:
'The unpleasant, acrid smell of burning poetry'.
A truly symbolic and timely event that marks the end of Blair's "Cool
Britannia".
Cheers!
Neil
>> http://www.muslimchildrensfund.com/
>
> Do you support the British children fund?
You didn't visit the link did you?
typed:
>
>"abelard" <abe...@abelard.org> wrote in message
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>
>Snipped what I consider to be a very lucid and worthy condemnation of really
>Modern art to concentrate on this little jewel:-)
>
>> this was a true bonfire of the vanities....
>
>Bet the Sun is kicking its own arse over missing this little beauty.
one can but hope...
>Congratulations old chap, well done! :-))))))))))))))
i just toss them off without much thought!!
below lines for your rood rejoinder...
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i just showed your post to a yak to be told i should put
it in my news....so you have effect...
regards...
The pathetic ploy of calling anybody who rejects as disgusting,
evil and subversive garbage a "Nazi", only serves to reinforce
the impression that this Jewish funded, created and inspired
obscenity has a clearly subversive political intention.
If everybody who denounces and rejects this evil junk is a
"Nazi" - then that means that 99% of the British people are
"Nazis" - which leaves you and your fellow travellers with a
bit of problem !
> The talentless nobodies who ran the Nazi Party thought that
contemporary art
> was decadent and that this was due to the pernicious influence of
the jews,
> and that Aryan art was inspirational and full of powerful images of
starry
> eyed young people overcoming adversity.
Hitler, as you are probably aware, was an artist himself, and
certainly knew a thing or two about art, its influence and importance
in society.
And he an his cronies certainly helped themselves to a lot of it,
none of it from amongst the subversive so-called "modern art"
junk available at the time.
> Anyway, the destruction of so many works of art merely raises the
price of
> the remaining works. Everyone wins, other than the insurers.
Which rather gives away your perspective on "art" !
A very valuable contribution to this thread, Enlightenment.
I hope a lot of people take your link to the Frankfurt site.
The quite deliberately subversive nature of these bastards
needs to be a lot more widely understood.
We are not given any choice in the matter. The garbage is
plastered all over the newspapers - which means that the young,
stupid and impressionable will, and do, think that they should
be able to understand it, and that not to do so is in some way
to fail !
It takes the grown ups to tell them that it means nothing at all
- and is intended to teach them that they mean nothing at all
and are worth nothing at all.
It is pure and malicious subversion. And it has got bugger all
to do with Hitler.
For an explanation of their vile intentions, see the posting from
"The Enlightenment" earlier in this thread.
I would refer you to the posting from "The Enlightenment"
earlier in this thread, and the link he gives there.
One of the greatest dangers this country has faced for all
of the last 30 years (and before, especially before the last
war) has been lazy sleeping watch dogs, and those who are
able to claim that "Its harmless", because the watchdogs
couldn't care less.
That, you will recall, is what the political establishment said
about Hitler, when Churchill was alone in warning of the
dangers - and our bought and paid for Marxist politicians
have been saying about the "EU" for the last 30 years ?
It is about a "harmless" as a can of cyanide.
typed:
>Hitler, as you are probably aware, was an artist himself, and
>certainly knew a thing or two about art, its influence and importance
>in society.
>
>And he an his cronies certainly helped themselves to a lot of it,
>none of it from amongst the subversive so-called "modern art"
>junk available at the time.
the following is widely available information....
http://www.remember.org/educate/art.html
"Hitler's process of "purification" began with raids on museums and
galleries in which impressionist and abstract paintings, drawings, and
sculptures were removed. The Nazis were as passionate about their contempt
for "unacceptable" art as they were practical. While almost 5,000 pieces
were burned, works by renowned artists such as Picasso that were likely to
fetch high bids on the international art market were auctioned off in
Switzerland to raise money for the Nazi party."
"More than three million works of art were plundered by the Nazi regime
during its reign. In his book, Art As Politics in the Third Reich,
Jonathan Petropolous explains that the Nazis' ambitions as "art
collectors" were motivated by two distinctly different purposes. The first
was a show of power as they confiscated all of the art in the Reich that
conflicted with the Party's ideology and concept of art. But, equally as
compelling, he notes, were the SS officers' obsession with building huge
private collections for themselves."
regards.
typed:
>"steven x brown" <eugen...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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>> "Wotan" <Wo...@Valhalla.net> wrote in news:40b4...@212.67.96.135:
>>
>> > I don't know who burnt down the warehouse containing
>> > the obscene, depraved, immoral, and above all, subversive,
>> > garbage which the Zionist Saatchi patronises and collects,
>> > but whoever it was deserves a knighthood for "services to
>> > British art".
>>
>> So you now consider arson an acceptable crime then?
>
>Burning of garbage and incinerating toxic waste is not a crime but the
>socialy responsible thing to do. Probably an insurance Job though.
>> > This crap was also the particular favourite of that other
>> > viciously anti-British goyim and malicious subversive, Blair.
>>
>> And who was forcing you to look at this crap?
>
>Art, specifically the mass mechanical reproduction of subversive Art,
>was the method that the Jewish communists of the "Institute of Social
>Research" (Frankfurt School for short) developed as part of their
>"critical theory" to demoralise and alienate western peoples such that
>they would be ready to accept revolution. "Critical Theory" is more
>commonly known as "political correctness" and it is the toxic garbage
>poisoning our children with self hate.
>
>This article explores the origins of political correctness.
>http://www.propaganda101.com/SocialPsychology/frankfurt.htm
load of pseudo-academic tosh with added daily slime type spin,
constructed for national socialist type objectives.....
all on an anonymous national socialist type site pretending to be
'academic'...
how you people love your simplistic myths.....
how you love to dress them up in psedo-'learning'.....
a fact here....a fact there....and soon you have a 'theory' of society...
natch of course....a conspiracy theory....
'but we're not really peally like that'.....'honest' we ain't...
well, we ain't....
>There is further work on the subject in this book. The preface is
>here:
>http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/Preface.htm
oh no....not him....a right little cult groupie ain't you....
when you ever gonna start thinking for yourself?
>> steven x brown
>> http://www.muslimchildrensfund.com/
rotf....
>Do you support the British children fund?
--
Thanks but no thanks:-)
Stop coming onto me:-)
AIUI that is harmless until you add water to the contents:-)
Does he also mention that the Russians "confiscated" all the art they could
find hoarded by the Germans, and that during the cold war most of it, or
rather copies, ended up on the West's mantelpieces, disguised as Christmas
cards, which regarding the Communist's disdain for all religion showed a
rather remarkable entrepreneurial skill:-))
It is very good news indeed that this fire has destroyed (if that is
the right word - to "destroy" something there has to be something
there to begin with) such a load of absolutely worthless junk.
typed:
no...i'm not so aware of the russian history....
vague recollection of a large number of painting in wester museums
of doubtful parentage...
i should have included this bit though...
http://mithec.prohosting.com/history/content/nazi%20art.html
"In 1937, Nazi officials purged German museums of works the Party
considered to be degenerate. From the thousands of works removed, 650 were
chosen for a special exhibit of Entartete Kunst. The exhibit opened in
Munich and then traveled to eleven other cities in Germany and Austria. In
each installation, the works were poorly hung and surrounded by graffiti
and hand written labels mocking the artists and their creations. Over
three million visitors attended making it the first "blockbuster"
exhibition."
btw...you also posted some fun sites a week or so back....
i didn't get around to thanking you....
you're getting useful!
regards...
The answer is still no:-)
BTW the Lottery jackpot this weekend here in Englandshire might well top £22
million due in no small part to three rollovers.
Be quick if you should wish to participate.
Remember the lottery is a tax on fools, written by a Twenty Thousand pounds
per year Mathematician, to a four times winner of the lottery jackpot:-)
Possibly the junk will become a new art:-)
typed:
>
>"abelard" <abe...@abelard.org> wrote in message
>news:k11db017kugmfv4ld...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 27 May 2004 23:54:11 +0100, "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com>
>> btw...you also posted some fun sites a week or so back....
>> i didn't get around to thanking you....
>> you're getting useful!
>
>The answer is still no:-)
you girls just can't take a compliment....
>BTW the Lottery jackpot this weekend here in Englandshire might well top £22
>million due in no small part to three rollovers.
>Be quick if you should wish to participate.
>
>Remember the lottery is a tax on fools, written by a Twenty Thousand pounds
>per year Mathematician, to a four times winner of the lottery jackpot:-)
regards.
They can take your house kids and car if you're not careful:-)
buggerzion
"abelard" <abe...@abelard.org> wrote in message
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If anyone 'pretends' to be academic it is you.
Answer this:
1 Were most of the Frankfurt School (Institute of Social Research)
Communist and Jewish?
2 Was the focus of their reseach into ways of using media (ie
propaganda) in ways to underminine western culture and moraliy so as
to make them ready for a socialist or more correctly ethnic-socialist
states and morality.
Answer yes or no and add your qualification.
I've snipped the rest of you ad hominem: it consist entirely of
calling everything you don't like 'pseudo scienfific or pseudo
academic'.
In other words you can't even begin to debate the issues.
[blah]
> That, you will recall, is what the political establishment said
> about Hitler, when Churchill was alone in warning of the
> dangers - and our bought and paid for Marxist politicians
> have been saying about the "EU" for the last 30 years ?
You are a liar and a hypocrite. You've previously claimed that
Churchill only opposed Hitler because he was bribed by a Jewish
businessman. It's fairly clear you don't think Hitler was altogether a
bad thing.
I bet the trains ran on time...
--
VOR
He didn't say you were a Nazi, he said that your ranting about Jews
and modern art sounded like Nazi propaganda.
>
> If everybody who denounces and rejects this evil junk is a
> "Nazi" - then that means that 99% of the British people are
> "Nazis" - which leaves you and your fellow travellers with a
> bit of problem !
>
> > The talentless nobodies who ran the Nazi Party thought that
> contemporary art
> > was decadent and that this was due to the pernicious influence of
> the jews,
> > and that Aryan art was inspirational and full of powerful images of
> starry
> > eyed young people overcoming adversity.
>
> Hitler, as you are probably aware, was an artist himself, and
> certainly knew a thing or two about art, its influence and importance
> in society.
He was also kind to children and animals.
Personally, I would have been happy to torch it myself. The jew Saatchi
probably did it himself. One of the Saatchis is the leader of the
organisational wing of the Tories isn't he?
The Wizard
The Wizard
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