Re: Iraq - the pressure is on for U.S. to get out ....
Tom P.
> Change of course
>
> Piling up the pressure on the American President, a top military lawmaker,
> once a strong supporter of the U.S. decision to launch war against Iraq,
> urged the Bush administration to consider a change of course and bold
> decisions if the Iraqi government failed to put an end to the current
> escalation of violence that continues to claim more innocent lives everyday.
>
> "In case nothing improved during the coming three months, the U.S. Congress
> would assert itself in bringing about a change in strategy", Senator John
> Warner, who heads the U.S. Armed Services Committee, said.
>
>
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> War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is.
> Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
The Bush administration is starting to get desperate. Watch for more
terror alerts and released videotapes of Osama or another tape of the
highjackers before the November elections in the U.S.
Wouldn't it be convenient for the Republicans if there were another
terrorist attack that happened before November? Especially one that can
be blamed on Iran.
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and ducks, were unable to learn the Seven Commandments by heart. After
much thought Snowball declared that the Seven Commandments could in
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bad.’ This, he said, contained the essential principle of Animalism.”
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One Voice Of Dissent
"Tom P." <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Karen Gordon wrote:
>
> > Change of course
> >
> > Piling up the pressure on the American President, a top military
lawmaker,
> > once a strong supporter of the U.S. decision to launch war against Iraq,
> > urged the Bush administration to consider a change of course and bold
> > decisions if the Iraqi government failed to put an end to the current
> > escalation of violence that continues to claim more innocent lives
everyday.
> >
> > "In case nothing improved during the coming three months, the U.S.
Congress
> > would assert itself in bringing about a change in strategy", Senator
John
> > Warner, who heads the U.S. Armed Services Committee, said.
> >
> >
> >
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> > War is when the government tells you who the bad guy is.
> > Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
> >
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>
> The Bush administration is starting to get desperate. Watch for more
> terror alerts and released videotapes of Osama or another tape of the
> highjackers before the November elections in the U.S.
>
> Wouldn't it be convenient for the Republicans if there were another
> terrorist attack that happened before November? Especially one that can
> be blamed on Iran.
I think it would backfire on them. Right now the only thing republicans have
to campiagn on is national security, if we get attacked, they won't even
have that. I'm not ruling it out, because desperate people do despertae
things, but they could blow it all for now and 2008 if lose that voter bloc.
They are in corner they painted themselves into. I think their only chance
is rigged elections.
Chom Noamsky
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I'd find a way to leverage the NK nuclear threat, say, drop a small nuke
along the DMZ in Korea and frame Kim Jong. Pugs could then claim NK was an
immediate terrorist threat and giving control to the Democrats would
jeopardize the security of the United States because they are "soft on
terrorism."
infidel
Certainly nothing from that dyke Karen Gordon!
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I.
"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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> Change of course
>
> Piling up the pressure on the American President, a top military lawmaker,
> once a strong supporter of the U.S. decision to launch war against Iraq,
> urged the Bush administration to consider a change of course and bold
> decisions if the Iraqi government failed to put an end to the current
> escalation of violence that continues to claim more innocent lives
everyday.
>
> "In case nothing improved during the coming three months, the U.S.
Congress
> would assert itself in bringing about a change in strategy", Senator John
> Warner, who heads the U.S. Armed Services Committee, said.
>
> Senator Warner, who has returned from a visit the war-ravaged country
> earlier this week, said he was discouraged by the situation there and what
> he described as "steps backward" the government has taken since he last
> visited the country.
>
> But the White House ruled out any change in Iraq strategy, saying that
> President Bush, who insists the U.S. won't depart Iraq "as long as I'm the
> president" - had not met with Warner, who also raised doubts about the
> four-point plan announced earlier by the Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-
> Maliki.
>
> "I think it's a responsibility of our government internally to determine:
> Is there a change of course that we should take? Warner told reporters on
> Capitol Hill.
>
> Congress would have to assert its own leadership on the issue as a
> co-equal branch with the executive branch", Warner said.
>
> "The next 60- to 90 days are critical", he stressed.
>
> Warner's statement highlighted increasing concerns among senior
> Republicans about the course of the war in Iraq as the mid-term
> congressional elections, set to be held in November, draws near, where
> they fear they would lose control over mounting dissatisfaction with the
> Bush administrations policy in the war-devastated country.
>
> Warner further stated that a top Republican behind-the-scenes player,
> James Baker III, was heading a bipartisan panel to suggest adopting new
> concepts and ideas in Iraq.
>
> Baker's report is expected to be presented to the legislature and White
> House following November elections.
>
> "I do not think more and more coalition troops ... are the answer to that
> question at this point in time," Warner said. There may have been other
> times when it would have been a good idea.
>
> Warner's doubts over the Iraqi Prime Minister's recently announced plan
> focused on the fact that the U.S. state couldn't get a copy of the
> document.
>
> "It's hard to see this government beginning to seize the full reins of
> sovereignty, which we have given them", Warner said. "You do not see them
> taking the levers of sovereignty and pulling and pushing them, and doing
> what is necessary to bring about a situation in Iraq whereby the people
> are able to live, have sufficient food and fresh water, and have a sense
> of confidence in their government that they're going forward."
>
> Warner asked the Iraqi government to distribute proceeds from the oil
> fields to benefit the entire nation, after visiting al-Anbar province,
> dominated by Sunni Arabs.
>
> In Al Anbar, Warner said there was a feeling they're not getting their
> fair share of any part of government distribution of benefits to the
people.
>
> However, Warner ruled out suggestions of a partition of Iraq.
>
> "The bordering countries are not going to sit around and allow the state
of
> Iraq to be chopped up", he stressed.
One Voice Of Dissent
"Chom Noamsky" <e...@t.me> wrote in message news:i50Wg.2313$P7.1775@edtnps89...
But, I did think last week, when the shit was hitting the GOP fan, that the
NK threat seemed rather well timed.
You may have something there.
Hell, you know Rummy has been wanting to bust a nuke somewhere.
SaPeIsMa
"One Voice Of Dissent" <ov...@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
How about campaigning on the econmy ?
Employement has remained low
Tax revenues have increased with the tax cuts
The stock market is strong
And all this following MAJOR disasters and "Acts of God" like 9/11 and
Katrina..
The Dems are gulling themselves if they imagine that they are in the catbird
seat
SaPeIsMa
Amazing to see how the lefties fear Karl Rove.
He is the Great Satan to them
And the reason for it is really simple
He has out-thought, and out-played them for the last 8 years.
He has spanked them up and down and left and right.
And all the while the idiot lefties IMAGINED that they had a right to win no
matter what..
Brian
>Congress would have to assert its own leadership on the issue as a
>co-equal branch with the executive branch", Warner said.
>
>"The next 60- to 90 days are critical", he stressed.
How many times have we heard this in the last 4 years?
Anybody
Karen Gordon wrote:
> "infidel" (in...@nonesuch.com) writes:
> > What pressure can fucking left wing canadians place on the US?
> > Certainly nothing from that dyke Karen Gordon!
>
> too many Aussies are dying in the U.S. war in Iraq..... are your troops hiding
> behind other countries' skirts or do they just not go out at all during
> the day?
They do but they don't go far..............and they aren't allowed out
at night AT ALL!!
And that has O'Conner totally steamed!
One Voice Of Dissent
"SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No one is afraid of rove. He's a pig snout man who's dirty tricks are all
catching up to him. His smoke and mirror days are over.
If rove was a genius, bush would have at least a 50% apprval rating.
If rove was a genius, American people would be supporting bush's war.
If rove was so smart, Irvin Libby would still be Cheney's Chief of staff.
If Rove was a genius, his aid would not have resigned yesterday, implicated
with Jack Abramoff.
If all you have is saying we are afraid of rove while the Whitehouse is one
step past damage ontrol and into panic you wouldn't have to defend him with
such a sophmoric, "lefties fear Karl Rove" Thats your story, no matter how
dumb it makes you look, and your sticking to it.
Whatever get's you through the night kid.
One Voice Of Dissent
They are, they are going to make it real, not a war inflated cooked numbers
economy. If the economy was great, bush would be better than 33%. People
remember the last time we had a real ecomony and it wasn't the republicans
giving tax givaways to the super rich, while sending their jobs overseas.
People know who gave it to them and they want it back, Well, sane people any
way, that would exclude bush cult worshipers who can take a blunder and try
to pray it into a miracle.
> Employement has remained low
The bush administration is at war with the working man. Bush made fast food
jobs a part of the manufacturing industry. Minumum wage jobs flipping
burgers do not support a family. People are working 2-3 jobs instead of one
job with a fair wage. It's very common now. As far as the unemployment rate
goes, they don't figure people who have ran out of benifits. So, when people
are losing more jobs than the administration creates, thers'a deficit. This
administration has never caught up with the deficit they created by
outsourcing American jobs so big business can take the load off, move their
money offshore, and a leave a huge hole in the job marfket, which forces
people into fast food jobs. You simply don't understand the dynamic. You
just drink the koolaid.
> Tax revenues have increased with the tax cuts
America is in the biggest deficit it has ever been in thanks to big spending
government expanding republicans. Your tax revenue is nothing but smoke and
mirrors createed by bush-o-nomics. And, tahts not counting the trade
deficit. Where do you think they are getting the monsy to finace their
speding binge. From our kids and grandkids. You want your children to pay
your bill? I dont. But that does not bother republicans, the just operate
in the red ink so someone else will have to pay their bills when they leave
with your money in offshore accounts. Beside that, there is no proof of
that, they say that is projected. Which brings up an interesting point. When
anyone mentions Clintons surplus, a republcan always says it was a projected
surplus. So, your revenues are the same thing, projected. Bad for Clinton,
good for Bush? Is that your double standard you float your nonsesne on.
> The stock market is strong
That effects 1% of Americans, and it's a war based market. Check the market
numbers before bush invaded Iraq, it dipped to 6000. You want the market
money to be smeared with blood, I dont.That is another reason bush keeps
sending our kids to die, if he stops the war, the market will crash and
there will be a recession, So, that to republicans is worth killing our
soldiers.
See why I have no part of you sick and perverted partyu. They play with
lives and you cheerlead. Someday, you wil,wake up and see. Mark my words.
> And all this following MAJOR disasters and "Acts of God" like 9/11 and
> Katrina..
Just means they were not prepared for either. Poor managemewnt, poor
leadership and inept people in the positions that could have prevented 9-11,
and caued Katrina to be much wose than it should hve been. You praise
incompetence because they are republicans. Has any other party fucked up
that badly you would have been screamimg for their heard. You aren;t kidding
anyone. 9-11 was bush's fault. Katrina coould have been managed if bush
could manage, but he can't, so he presided over two American disaters, not
oncluding his disaster in Iraq, and his forgottn war in Afghanisatn Both
within the margin of error for his August vacations.Can you add 2+2?
> The Dems are gulling themselves if they imagine that they are in the
catbird
> seat
>
>
Keep telling yourself that, it gets you through the night. It does not
bother me, because you are a bush cultist, and I realize you gave him your
mind, because you decided you didnt need it anymore. Enjoy your bliss.
One Voice Of Dissent
"Brian" <b.r....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that the same as turning the corner? Republicans, same old shit,
different day.
kope2
SaPeIsMa
Sure bub
Thanks for proving me right
Now wipe the drool of your muzzle, or someone might think you're a rabid dog
and shoot you.
SaPeIsMa
Just to show how limited you are
Anyone who doesn't swallow your crap is automatically a "bush cultist"
You're nothng but a binary idiot
Steve
And democrats have no answers either. No one is willing to place the
blame where it belongs - American support for Israel. So the US sooner
than later withdraws from Iraq but continues to pay for the Israeli
occupation of the Palestinians. The inevitable result are more attacks
on Americans.
-Steve
One Voice Of Dissent
For sure Mary.
> Thanks for proving me right
Wrong agani Mary.
> Now wipe the drool of your muzzle, or someone might think you're a rabid
dog
> and shoot you.
Thats not me, thats that little boys sperm dripping off you chin pervert.
>
>
Hah! I'll take that childish response as a consession that you cant refute
the post. That's the way it works kid, Too bad, Try again, when you get your
GED.
One Voice Of Dissent
you were just a punk kid. You prove it with your childish response. Get a
GED and come back again sometimes.
One Voice Of Dissent
"Steve" <truc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> One Voice Of Dissent wrote:
> > "Brian" <b.r....@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:h2mii2l51g6rrlpko...@4ax.com...
> > > On 8 Oct 2006 03:22:40 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Congress would have to assert its own leadership on the issue as a
> > > >co-equal branch with the executive branch", Warner said.
> > > >
> > > >"The next 60- to 90 days are critical", he stressed.
> > >
> > > How many times have we heard this in the last 4 years?
> >
> > Isn't that the same as turning the corner? Republicans, same old shit,
> > different day.
>
> And democrats have no answers either.
Whats your question?
<snip irrelevent drivel> -Steve
>
SaPeIsMa
Why is it that lefties are always projecting their fascination with
homosexual and pedophile acts on others are a form of attack ?
So to use your own words
> "Hah! I'll take that childish response as a consession that you cant
> refute
> the post. That's the way it works kid, Too bad, Try again, when you get
> your
> GED.
By the way, there's NOTHING to refute in your frothing babble
Simply because it's meaningless.
SaPeIsMa
As an example of childish response
You should read the nonsense you post...