Pro-euro Realism
Alberto Magnetron
benefits for our nation, the rest of Europe, and indeed the world.
This parliament should see an all inclusive debate on just how we proceed in
Europe, and let us hope the arguments are, above all else, fused with truth
and logic.
Britain, by its nature and through its strengths, has a wonderful
opportunity to lead the way in forging a healthy relationship particularly
between the US and Europe, so that all can benefit.
Alberto Magnetron.
Alexskidot
I share your ideals, but today saw the death of the Labour Party. It is now
manned by heartless career minded politicians. Though they say they support the
concept of the Euro, new labour have no intention of joining. That is now
blatantly obvious. They are scared of the bad publicity the Euro debate brings.
They are scared of the corporate might of America. In total they are guttless.
If you have access to todays question time, focus on John Prescott's face. He
knows.
Todays events played to the middle ground and conservative voters once again.
Reduce todays queens speach and you find a programme that promotes low pay with
the services being put in the hands of private company's. Corporation tax
lowered last week. Public servicse he say are vital, yet Blair is selling them
off.
On Wednesday the 6th June William Hague said the country would see the power of
conservatism on Friday the 8th of June. How right he was.
I would not be surprised to see John Prescott resigning over some issue in the
next 12 months. Either due to manouvrings on Blairs part or to Prescotts
indignity of being pushed out into a meaningless role.
Democracy?
lies damned lies and The Sun (Blairs paymasters)
Alex
Alberto Magnetron
<<Though they say they support the
concept of the Euro, new labour have no intention of joining.>>
Two years or so from now will be a telling time. I believe public opposition
to the Euro will have diminished, but I think the Labour party is right to
be cautious about the conditions for entry. There is no immediate rush.
<<They are scared of the bad publicity the Euro debate brings.>>
No, I don't think so. On a parallel, one could argue that the government
should have been so scared of the bad publicity when the fuel protests were
on that they should have caved in (it was after all only months before the
election). But they were right not to. I see nothing to say that they will
run scared of the Euro debate.
<<They are scared of the corporate might of America.>>
I think they are rightly trying to bring in better US/EU cooperation with
their Nafta positioning. If successful in this endeavour, from there onwards
the British government will be in a very strong position to influence
things.
Alberto Magnetron.
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Aparrently your favourite person, Mr Murdoch, went to number 10 to talk to
Mr Blair about when they were thinking of signing up to the Euro and its
possible financial implications .. I wonder if this has had an effect on his
stance ? .. like you say, 'Democracy' ???
Hotblack
Alexskidot
><<Though they say they support the
>concept of the Euro, new labour have no intention of joining.>>
>Two years or so from now will be a telling time. I believe public opposition
>to the Euro will have diminished, but I think the Labour party is right to
>be cautious about the conditions for entry. There is no immediate rush.
It could well be that public opposition to the Euro will have diminished in a
couple of years, but that will be no thanks to labour.
As any one knows who looks into this NG on regular basis, I am not only
passionatly pro EU and pro Euro but also that the public should be informed
properly about the subject. How else can they hope to form a proper opinion on
the subject?
Blair is sitting on the fence. If the public decides not to join, he will have
put himself in a position where he can deflect criticism away from from
himself. He is letting others to do his arguing for him. He is guttless career
politician who is only concerned with his own election chances next time
around.
If he had any passion, he would be arguing the case not only for the EU and the
Euro now, but he would be letting everyone know of his ideals. For instance,
who is this guy? Do you know of his hopes not only for his kids but the
country. Does it involve corporate america? What does he think about the debate
surrounding corporatism - governmental or private? What about the effect of the
Euro on US relationships - there will be effects make no mistake, but he does
not want to discuss them because of political expediency. He will see what is
happening at the time and react then. Pragmatic yes, idealistic - he would kiss
the devil on his lips before this term came to his mind. Read Dr Faustus - he
sold his soul as well. He is looking to America, Rupert Murdoch has purchased
him with the prospect of gold in the form of votes.
The Queens speach showed Blair for he is, a Tory and one that would not look
out of place in the 1980's. I would not go so far as to say he is corrupt to
the extent of criminal behaviour but by god, his social awareness leaves
something to be desired. He must have realised that the public were expecting a
huge influx of money into the NHS and othe services. what did he give them?
Conservative privatisation.
Labour history is one where they have fought not only hard against this kind of
assault on the services but one with a belief that any one with a social
conscience should look up on with pride. Blair is systematically destroying
the notion of a just society.
It is not good, saying that you believe in society against that of Thatcherism,
when in all but words you are putting Thatcherism in to practice. Either he is
a hypocrite of the first degree, or he has an intellectual void.
I don't want to make this posting to long (it puts people off) but Blair is on
record as saying he is prepared to widen the gap between rich and poor,
provided the poor also increase their lot.
Unfortunately this is nothing but conservatism and an irrational philosophy.
Why?
Poverty is subjective. Poverty can only ever be measured against the more well
off in society. Therefore however you want to measure living standards (which
in effect we are talking about) the fact that the poor/rich devide will get
bigger as a matter of policy ensures that poverty is not only maintaned but a
criteria that is actually aimed for.
He is a right wing career minded politician period.
I may have been wrong in voting labour this time, not because of what I
believed I was voting for, but because of what I got instead. An anti Euro ,
pro corporate america career politician.
I honestly thought I voted for a party with beliefs instead I got a selfish
career minded politician/president of the Unitied Kingdom.
Disgusted
lies damed lies and The Sun
Alex