Betty's dead cat / Will Dockery
Will Dockery
>Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > Betty's dead cat
>
> > "Betty has a dead cat
> > It is a red cat
> > with a rigor mortis smile."
>
> > -Will Dockery
>
> Cool. Let me do some work on that.
What did you have in mind?
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Will Dockery
Betty's dead cat
"Betty has a dead cat
It is a red cat
with a rigor mortis smile."
-Will Dockery
> hey doc..would that kats name be cheshire?
Very likely... a lot of "Cheshire" in the Dockery Mythos, which may
get all covered eventually.
The "red cat" line is really personal, and relates back to the memory
trip for 1985 & surrounding areas I'm going into, elsewhere. Back at
Mockingbird Trailer Park in very early 1985, a lady friend of mine,
Thoi (Lord, I wonder where she is now) referred to a local cat that
came around, one of the "Garfield", "Morris" or "Cheshire" ---(to my
eye) yellow-orange--- as a "red cat", obviously Thoi was making the
connection to the color of the cat's fur to that of human "redheads".
But that's another poem, or two, or three...
Here's the thread where some of this is being documented, on the slim
chance someone is interested (heh):
http://www.intowncolumbus.com/group/columbusgeorgiathewaywewere/forum/topics/snuffys-shantys
"...Add to that the Mockingbird Trailer Park directly behind The Cold
Spot (I lived at Lot 33 in MBTP back in late 1984-early 1985 before
moving to Bibb City, where I remained the rest of the decade) and the
Columbus (?) Drive-In Theater just a bit south on Fort Benning Road,
and this block had to be one of the ultimate bits of Southern Culture!
And there must have been a truck stop just down the the road..."
George Dance
> George Dance wrote:
> >Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > Betty's dead cat
>
> > > "Betty has a dead cat
> > > It is a red cat
> > > with a rigor mortis smile."
>
> > > -Will Dockery
>
> > Cool. Let me do some work on that.
>
> What did you have in mind?
>
Oh, I wrote a draft last night (three, actually). So it's done, unless
I want to make it longer.
It's the beginning of a poem, "Betty's Dead Cat," which begins:
"Betty's cat is dead"
and then goes on through all the synonyms in the manner of the Monty
Python "Dead Parrot" sketch.
As Gwyneth could call plagiarism again, I've mentioned that it's
"inspired by a series of poems by Gwyneth Box".
All I need now is a good ending.
What about:
"Poor cat. It's dead,
not red,
So Betty can't even make a hat out of it.'
No, I don't really like that at all.
Anyway, I'll post it when it's a poem, under its own subject header.
Will Dockery
> On Oct 10, 12:22 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
> > George Dance wrote:
> > >Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > > > Betty's dead cat
>
> > > > "Betty has a dead cat
> > > > It is a red cat
> > > > with a rigor mortis smile."
>
> > > > -Will Dockery
>
> > > Cool. Let me do some work on that.
>
> > What did you have in mind?
>
> Oh, I wrote a draft last night (three, actually). So it's done, unless
> I want to make it longer.
>
> It's the beginning of a poem, "Betty's Dead Cat," which begins:
>
> "Betty's cat is dead"
>
> and then goes on through all the synonyms in the manner of the Monty
> Python "Dead Parrot" sketch.
>
> As Gwyneth could call plagiarism again, I've mentioned that it's
> "inspired by a series of poems by Gwyneth Box".
Does Gwyneth actually have a series of dead cat poems? I never
noticed.
> All I need now is a good ending.
>
> What about:
>
> "Poor cat. It's dead,
> not red,
> So Betty can't even make a hat out of it.'
>
> No, I don't really like that at all.
>
> Anyway, I'll post it when it's a poem, under its own subject header.
I was kind of having my own ideas about the poem, as I just wrote to
=z=:
Betty's dead cat
"Betty has a dead cat
It is a red cat
with a rigor mortis smile."
-Will Dockery
"hey doc..would that kats name be cheshire?" ---=z=
Very likely... a lot of "Cheshire" in the Dockery Mythos, which may
get all covered eventually.
The "red cat" line is really personal, and relates back to the memory
trip for 1985 & surrounding areas I'm going into, elsewhere. Back at
Mockingbird Trailer Park in very early 1985, a lady friend of mine,
Thoi (Lord I wonder where she is now) referred to a local cat that
came around, one of the "Garfield", "Morris" or "Cheshire" ---(to my
eye) yellow-orange--- as a "red cat", obviously Thoi was making the
connection to the color of the cat's fur to that of human "redheads".
But that's another poem, or two, or three...
Here's the thread where some of this is being documented, on the slim
chance someone is interested (heh):
http://www.intowncolumbus.com/group/columbusgeorgiathewaywewere/forum/topics/snuffys-shantys
"...Add to that the Mockingbird Trailer Park directly behind The Cold
Spot (I lived at Lot 33 in MBTP back in late 1984-early 1985 before
moving to Bibb City, where I remained the rest of the decade) and the
Columbus (?) Drive-In Theater just a bit south on Fort Benning Road,
and this block had to be one of the ultimate bits of Southern Culture!
And there must have been a truck stop just down the the road..."
So maybe this can be another round-robin collaboration, like the
"Workers" poem of earlier this year?
George Dance
OK, well, none of what I wrote is intended to stop you from writing
your poem, your way. It's just like in the Workers thread, I'd say;
where none of us objected (except Dale Houstman, after the fact) to
any of us using what came out in the thread as a separate poem. Or in
the original "Betty" thread, where the 3 of us who'd worked on that
agreed we could each write our own poem based on what we'd written in
the thread.
I remember at one point you were talking about using "Betty Palin" in
your Bettyworks, and at a different point about changing the name to
something else ) -- but of course you can use "Betty" if you want.
After all, you came up with the name (and you have not gone around
calling me a "plagiarist" for using the name in my works). In that
case I'll have to change my title -- "Betty's dead cat" is your
wording, which belongs on your work. as yours. (My working title, for
now, will be my first line, "Betty's cat is dead".
> Betty's dead cat
>
> "Betty has a dead cat
> It is a red cat
> with a rigor mortis smile."
>
> -Will Dockery
>
> "hey doc..would that kats name be cheshire?" ---=z=
>
> Very likely... a lot of "Cheshire" in the Dockery Mythos, which may
> get all covered eventually.
>
> The "red cat" line is really personal, and relates back to the memory
> trip for 1985 & surrounding areas I'm going into, elsewhere. Back at
> Mockingbird Trailer Park in very early 1985, a lady friend of mine,
> Thoi (Lord I wonder where she is now) referred to a local cat that
> came around, one of the "Garfield", "Morris" or "Cheshire" ---(to my
> eye) yellow-orange--- as a "red cat", obviously Thoi was making the
> connection to the color of the cat's fur to that of human "redheads".
> But that's another poem, or two, or three...
>
> Here's the thread where some of this is being documented, on the slim
> chance someone is interested (heh):
>
> http://www.intowncolumbus.com/group/columbusgeorgiathewaywewere/forum...
>
> "...Add to that the Mockingbird Trailer Park directly behind The Cold
> Spot (I lived at Lot 33 in MBTP back in late 1984-early 1985 before
> moving to Bibb City, where I remained the rest of the decade) and the
> Columbus (?) Drive-In Theater just a bit south on Fort Benning Road,
> and this block had to be one of the ultimate bits of Southern Culture!
> And there must have been a truck stop just down the the road..."
>
It sounds like you do have something you can turn into a poem, there.
Sorry I scooped up your title; that wasn't intentional.
> So maybe this can be another round-robin collaboration, like the
> "Workers" poem of earlier this year?
>
To tell you the truth, after Houstman's veto on my using any of his
words in my Workers poem (meaning I couldn't use it at all, after all
the work I'd done on it), followed by the usual accusations of
'plagiarism' by "Karla and others" (as Dale would put it), I'm a bit
leery of getting involved in any more round robins. The other one did
work out, of course (since there was no Dale or other
"others"involved), and I have that poem; but that doesn't make up for
my disappointment in not being able to publish "The Workers Do Not
Dream".
Tell you what: if the round-robin idea takes off, I'll jump in or not
depending on who else has joined in. If so, of course, I'll reserve
the right to take any new synonyms for 'dead' that come up and put
them back in my work.
Will Dockery
Ah... I missed this one earlier, interesting thoughts but I'll have to
respond when I return, I'm already running way late for a performance
out in Smith's Station Alabama (hello, Matt!) about 10 miles from
here. If I take off now I'll be able to easily hit the stage Around
Midnight.
So more on this, Betty, and her late lamented cat, shortly...
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Will Dockery
Well, looks like the round-robin idea didn't, and in fact it looks
like Matt has exited the newsgroup entirely again. Is your poem about
Betty's dead cat on a blog yet?
Get me the link when it is & I'll distribute it to "my people".
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<snip for focus>
> [Stuart:]
>
> One does wonder why no one among Cythera, Karla, Gwyneth (Gary? Rik?
> who'm I leaving out?) spoke up when Ross posted on his own and on their
> behalf that they all - by name - could take back (or words to that very
> effect) the poetry group from you and the others of your ilk. I have a feeling, though, that
> Gwyneth's cat would have said spoken up.
>
> [Cythera]
>
> Was her cat getting hammered for months by matt, Dockery, and George?
Cythera's confused again... that was Betty's cat:
Betty has a dead cat
It is a red cat
with a rigor mortis smile.
-Will Dockery
> George Dance wrote:
> >Will Dockery wrote:
> >>Gwyneth says:
>
> > it was George who brought "[my] dead cats"
> > to aapc and Will who clearly misinterpreted my reaction.
>
> >http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/3668478dfe...
>
> Ah, yes, though like Gwyneth I don't particularly "remember" all the
> details, this was a reference to when she wrote that if you used "dead cats"
> in a poem you'd be plagiarizing her?
>
> I also "remember" that everywhere else the use of "dead cats" would most
> likely be "okay", and Gwyneth would have been flamed endlessly for stupidly
> accusing someone of plagiarism over such a generic topic as "dead cats".
"We know." -Dennis M. Hammes
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> "Your" idea is mine, as follows:
"Your" idea is older than you might think:
http://haikutopics.blogspot.com/2006/05/hat-kasa.html
Good site, btw, thanks for posting...
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Will Dockery
> "Your" idea is mine, as follows:
"Your" idea is older than you might think:
http://haikutopics.blogspot.com/2006/05/hat-kasa.html
Good site, btw, thanks for posting...
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Will Dockery
news:U9GdnSfsc5AEXgvN...@giganews.com...
>
>> certainly a no brainer
Figuring you and your ilk out certainly is, Gary.
We nailed it here many years ago, but it does bear repeating from
time-to-time, if for nothing else that newcomers will be aware of you and
your ilk, Gary. From the archives, an example:
http://www.rammsteinuk.com/344641
*******************
>> it's the dark side.
>>
>> they claim that the people of their choosing don't
>> know how to write. they claim that people of their
>> choosing are stupid and illiterate.
>
> Interestingly, the ones who toss out such statements tend to fall into
> those
> categories themselves.
>
>> they make all kinds of claims, but rarely if ever
>> post anything but drivel on their side of things.
>> evans farts out a poem a year if that.
>
> Unfortunately for him, I nailed one of his poems and recordings for the
> mushmouthed whistle-lisping burble of a mundane piece of chopped-up-prose
> it
> was last year and he was so hurt he's still following behind me with his
> obsessed whining.
>
> If Mushmouth would spend a bit more of his time on trying to improve his
> dreary poetry rather than spending /all/ of his time begging me to slap
> him
> down, he might manage more than on repost of an old poem a year... doesn't
> look likely, though.
>
>> wells, well...nothing but drivel.
>
> Shhh... if he sees his name he might return... then again, GB's pretty
> much
> the same silly spew.
>
>> gamble? drivel.
>> sherman? drivel.
>> b's cat? drivel.
>
> At least these three did try to write poetry at one time... much to
> ggamble's embarrassment. His "Regrets of the Nam" shows him to be at best
> on
> the level of those he tries to persecute, which is unfortunate for him.
>
>> now, ross, karla, jeanne and houstman DO write.
>
> And as I note, sometimes they put out some interesting stuff. And, of
> course, they also churn out their fair share of garbage, as well.
>
>> however, how come it is that just because they
>> write means everybody of their choosing sucks?
>> that's bullshit.
>
> Their mutual backpatting comes off looking pretty silly sometimes, yes.
>
>> i notice, especially, that you go out of your way
>> to point to "good" poems by them. however, they
>> rarely, if ever, have anything good to say about
>> yours.
>
> Heh... well I know the value of my work, and I know they know... their
> agenda won't allow them to even try to get what I do.
>
> They're afraid of falling from favor with the thugs.
>
>> the same goes with george.
>> he's very diplomatic with those people.
>
> George is a serious poet who doesn't have to tear others down, he's
> confident in his work and yeah, he's here to build the knowledge base.
>
> Did you ever check out his bio?
>
> http://www.wikinfo.org/index.php/George_Dance_%28politician%29
>
> '''George Dance''' is a [[politician]] and political activist in
> [[Ontario]], [[Canada]]. He has been a member of the [[Libertarian Party
> of
> Canada]] and the [[Ontario Libertarian Party]] since the mid-1970s, and
> has
> served as interim leader of both parties.
>
> Dance listed his occupation as stock clerk, layout artist, freelance
> typesetter and office manager on various occasions between 1979 and 1993.
> He has long published ''The Bulletin'', the Ontario Libertarian Party's
> newsletter.
>
> Like many others in his party, Dance has called for increased
> privatization
> and is an opponent of unionization. He is an opponent of [[anarchism]],
> and
> describes himself as a "proper-government libertarian" (i.e., supporting a
> government and recognizes and respects individual liberties). Dance is
> also
> an opponent of restrictions on public smoking.
>
> Dance became leader of the Libertarian Party in 1991, after former leader
> [[Stanislaw Tyminski]] left Canada to form [[Party X]] in [[Poland]]. He
> held this position until May 1993, when [[Hilliard Cox]] was chosen to
> replace him. Dance also served as interim leader of the federal party
> from
> 1995 to 1996. Note. [[Liberatarian]]s are different from [[Liberal]]s
> though
> the name is similar.
>
> Dance has served on the executive of the Ontario Libertarian Party since
> 1985, and is currently its chairman. He became the party's leader
> following
> the resignation of [[John Shadbolt]] on [[June 9]], [[1995]], and held the
> position until [[Sam Apelbaum]] was selected at a delegated convention in
> late 1996. As party leader, Dance contested a 1996 by-election in [[York
> South]].
>
> In 1992, Dance indicated that his party might seek an electoral alliance
> with the [[Freedom Party of Ontario]]. The Freedom Party soon rejected
> this
> suggestion.
>
> ==Electoral record==
>
> *[[Ontario general election, 1975]], [[Wilson Heights (electoral
> district)|Wilson Heights]], 366 votes (winner: [[Vern Singer]], [[Ontario
> Liberal Party|Liberal]])
> *[[Canadian federal election, 1979]], [[Davenport (electoral
> district)|Davenport]], 156 votes (winner: [[Charles Caccia]], [[Liberal
> Party of Canada|Liberal]])
> *[[Canadian federal election, 1980]], [[York South?Weston]], 299 votes
> (winner: [[Ursula Appollini]], [[Liberal Party of Canada|Liberal]])
> *[[Canadian federal election, 1984]], [[York?Scarborough]], 1,067 votes
> (winner: [[W. Paul McCrossan]], [[Progressive Conservative Party of
> Canada|Progressive Conservative]])
> *[[Ontario general election, 1985]], [[Scarborough?Ellesmere]], 348 votes
> (winner: [[David William Warner]], [[Ontario New Democratic Party|New
> Democratic Party]])
> *[[Ontario general election, 1987]], [[Scarborough Southwest]], 485 votes
> (winner: [[Richard Johnston]], [[Ontario New Democratic Party|New
> Democratic
> Party]])
> *[[Canadian federal election, 1988]], [[Brampton (electoral
> district)|Brampton]], 593 votes (winner: [[John McDermid]], [[Progressive
> Conservative Party of Canada|Progressive Conservative]]
> *federal [[by-election]], [[July 13]], [[1990]], [[Oshawa (electoral
> district)|Oshawa]], 117 votes (winner: [[Michael Breaugh]], [[New
> Democratic
> Party]])
> *[[Ontario general election, 1990]], [[Scarborough West]], 401 votes
> (winner: [[Anne Swarbrick]], [[Ontario New Democratic Party|New Democratic
> Party]])
> *[[Canadian federal election, 1993]], [[Scarborough Centre]], 153 votes
> (winner: [[John Cannis]], [[Liberal Party of Canada|Liberal]])
> *[[Ontario general election, 1995]], [[Scarborough West]], 214 votes
> (winner: [[Jim Brown (Ontario politician)|Jim Brown]], [[Progressive
> Conservative Party of Ontario|Progressive Conservative]])
> *provincial [[by-election]], [[May 23]], [[1996]], [[York South]], 77
> votes
> (winner: [[Gerard Kennedy]], [[Ontario Liberal Party|Liberal]])
> *[[Ontario general election, 2007]], [[Scarborough Southwest]], 296 votes
> (winner: [[Lorenzo Berardinetti]], [[Ontario Liberal Party|Liberal
> Party]])
>
> ==External Links==
>
> *[http://www.nolanchart.com/author383.html Ron Paul and his rEVOLution
> (Nolan chart column)]
> *[http://www.mega.bz/word/poet.mgi?poet=George%20Dance Poetry of George
> Dance]
> *[http://www.libertarian.on.ca/bulletin/index.htm Libertarian Bulletin
> columns]
>
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>
> It's pretty obvious that a lot of the attacks on Dance come from jealousy,
> especially from nobody Canadians like Gary Gamble, who probably reads
> about
> GD in the newspapers and on television, since he's a national public
> figure
> up there... while GG is... well, the author of "Pete The Dog".
>
>> however, they act like they're the .in
>> second coming all rolled up into one.
>>
>> they can say i whine all they want.
>> i've got my opinions.
>> they think i'm influenced by you.
>> that's bullshit. i don't kiss anybody's
>> around here. i'm a floater.
>
> Hell, yeah... interesting that /they/ are the "asskissers", or as Hammes
> would call 'em, "circlesuckers".
>
>> however, i HATE egotisticalholes.
>> i suppose that's why i gravitate in your
>> direction. same with george.
>>
>> if it's about "sides," i'm on the side
>> of people who don't show off, or get
>> too egotistical. i'm also on the side
>> of those who enjoy sharing more than
>> comparing creative writing, especially
>> on an open forum where trolls and k00ks
>> flourish.
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they drove away, eventually.
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