Planet Venus Facts (not mainstream approved)

[Brad Guth]

Planet Venus (GuthVenus); the extremely taboo/nondisclosure planet that is too close and way too hot for mainstream comfort.

This complex and extremely active planet which passes so nearby every 19 months (within 105 LD(lunar distance), which is technically close enough as to being classified as a NEO, offers us a truly extraordinarily hot surface that is hosting a large scale of infrastructure, and GuthVenus (of planet Venus) represents but just one relatively small though rather interesting terrain area of complex topography of this extremely nearby and complex planet, of a highly mountainous and canyon morphed terrain area along with offering all of those pesky surface anomalies that seem as though having been intentionally configured and looking oddly infrastructure like, plus otherwise sufficiently community rationale worthy enough for the explicit functionality of accommodating someone kind of intelligence exploitation of those rare elements from such a hellishly active planet like Venus.

It doesn't even require a photographic editing app for interpreting this one, as nowadays most browsers incorporate an automatic resampling and "unsharp" filter utility that'll give a sufficient enlargement or zoom/magnification factor without distorting a darn thing. Even smartphones offer sufficient image zoom/enlarge capability, but don't bother to tell that to our NASA, DARPA, JPL or any others associated with their Magellan mission that radar imaged most of the Venus surface.

Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
GuthVenus 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question:
http://bradguth.blogspot.com/2009/07/brad-guth-index.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

You can always remain perfectly mainstream fellowship loved and employed, and especially as keeping yourself job security failsafe by simply pretending there is absolutely nothing all that special to look at (a third up and roughly center of image mgn_c115s095_1.gif).

Perhaps natural planet topography always includes those multiple units of perfectly symmetrical geometries configured in a rational looking community like infrastructure, and otherwise as having those perfectly natural geometric formed reservoirs with a strikingly enormous clover shape that are also found as typically connected to yet another remote other reservoir containing something fluid that absorbs radar scans, plus then interpreting as offering a very likely bridge item traversing a sizably wide and deep canyon that is situated right next to three clearly rectangular rock quarry sites is perhaps almost as commonplace as having a nearby community of structural looking items along with offering a very flat structured surface within a highly mountainous terrain that's fairly large and certainly long enough as for being a usable landing platform surface situated on top of a clearly raised foundation type of infrastructure as also placed within this otherwise extremely mountainous topography, and there is even more unusual extrapolation detail of symmetry if you had any observationology or deductive image interpreting expertise to speak of. Sure thing, it is obviously all perfectly natural and logically rational kinds of geology stuff, just like some of the largest scale infrastructure as found on Earth, except because of our having created it, as such would probably look as fairly natural to even a dysfunctional ET if they were as incompetent and in denial as those of our best.

On the other hand, perhaps our peers have all been instructed by those Venusian ETs to back off, essentially informed as to stay away and to keep all others uninformed of their highly productive mining operations. At least that would make perfect sense as to why so much mainstream obfuscation and denial of being in denial is getting applied against anything as having to do with the planet Venus, and especially kept so mainstream naysay and otherwise taboo/nondisclosure and/or misinformed of all things GuthVenus.

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[Brad Guth]

Floating cities; are they worth considering?

On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:27:59 AM UTC-8, Allen W. McDonnell wrote:
> I have read speculation in different fora and novels about the possibility
> of colonizing the upper atmosphere of planets with Earthlike gravity fields
> but very dense atmosphere. The two I am most familiar with are balloon
> supported towns in the upper atmosphere of Venus or Saturn. On each of
> those planets the gravity field is close to that on Earth, and on Venus our
> natural atmosphere of Nitrogen/Oxygen is a lifting gas because of the
> extreme density of the atmosphere. IIRC at 1 Bar pressure level a balloon
> filled with air from Earth would experience terrestrial temperature ranges
> floating far above the corrosive clouds on Venus.
>
> To float at the 1 Bar level on Saturn any balloon town would have to use
> some form of power to heat Hydrogen and keep it hot in the envelope, and to
> get Earthlike temperatures you would actually have to be lower down,
> somewhere between 3 and 5 Bar pressure levels. After adaptation these
> levels do not appear harmful to humans, but testing has been limited at this
> point so we don't know for certain that they would be sustainable over the
> very long term. Conversely if your habitat were structurally robust you
> could have 1 Bar internal pressure and 5 Bar external, but the heavier you
> make your habitat the harder it is to keep it floating where you want it.
>
> Of course if you are already using heated Hydrogen as your lifting gas you
> could just set your altitude at 1 Bar and heat your habitat as needed to
> maintain comfort for the inhabitants.
>
> Theoretically once you perfect the floating habitat system you could also
> use it on Uranus and Neptune to float around at the appropriate 1 Bar
> pressure level and use aircraft to retrieve chemicals like Water, Ammonia
> and Methane from atmosphere to provide CHON (Carbon Hydrogen Oxygen
> Nitrogen) for your industries to build more habitats and provide food,
> water, and air for your society. In theory we might be looking in the wrong
> place seeking technological societies on Earth-like planets, gas giants with
> floating habitats provide far more room for any technological species to
> live than tiny Earthlike planets do even if they only exploit a small
> fraction of the total surface area.

Engineering and technology wise, there is really nothing on the books standing in the way of accomplishing such floating habitats, along with their enormous volumetric biospheres of accommodating sufficient biodiversity and environmental ecosystems as for becoming extensively self sufficient, even though the need as for ever becoming totally self-sufficient isn't a requirement or hardly necessity as long as re-supply missions from Earth every 19 months are not excluded.

These off-world floating habitats are not yet available from Walmart, Sears or for that matter from any retailing or commercial enterprise, or even via Boeing or Airbus that each specialize in limited use atmospheric habitats as human and cargo transporters, plus accommodating all sorts of DoD/MIC applications. However, the likes of Bigelow Aerospace could be involved.

Atmospheric pressure, density and even extremely high temperature has actually never been an insurmountable issue, even though that goes against most everything we've been taught by our peers. Kind of makes me wonder whatever else they've been lying to us about.

[Brad Guth]

On Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:11:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:

The hot surface of Venus, with its considerable geothermal vents plus a mostly crystal dry and thereby inert atmospheric density worth nearly 65 kg/m3, and the 90.5% gravity factor that's making the Venus airship constructed volumetric buoyancy-offset worth as great as 71.5 kg/m3 in terms of terrestrial mass when applied into the 9.5% less gravity of Venus, along with its easily displacing a great deal of that extremely dense atmosphere which seems kind of hard to ignore for anyone that isn't a total certified diehard moron that's coasting on public-funded and/or ratepayer-funded life-support, all because they are legally as brain-dead as Hagar (Hagen Sahm) that likes to pretend he's an Atheist, when in fact his actions prove that he's just another kosher brain-fart that thinks he's an extra special kind of valued redneck American, just like all those SS Nazis of Operation Paperclip.

Not everything about a hot planet is going to represent bad news, especially when there is such a terrific atmospheric density with its local thermal and nifty pressure differentials, plus easy access to those naturally hot fluids and gas elements as upwelling from its surface, along with means of locally processing such into desired alloys and composites that is not going to be nearly as energy demanding as accomplished here on Earth once a few kinks and bugs are worked out.

Silica aerogel at less than 2 kg/m3 is already a major buoyancy consideration for its usage along with incorporating hollow basalt/glass millispheres, creating those seriously crush resistant kinds of geometrically and physically ideal forms of a suitably tough construction material for creating those highly insulated surface habitats that can easily accommodate us, as well as for constructing all sorts of composite rigid airships (the bigger the better), even if the all-inclusive average construction material density amounted to 100 kg/m3 (110.5 kg terrestrial mass/m3) would still represent an absolute win-win for any number of valid reasons of suiting numerous structural applications, because the volumetric solid mass displacing the 65 kg/m3 atmosphere means that the net Venus mass of any cubic meter of that composite weighs only 35 kg/m3, which is still heavy but not by much once made into a large volume composite airship that's mostly hollow and its volume displaced by inert hydrogen because there'd be no simple way or any need of ever getting the local O2 above 1%.

Silica Aerogel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerogel
"It has remarkable thermal insulative properties, having an extremely low thermal conductivity: from 0.03 W/m·K[12] down to 0.004 W/m·K,[8] which correspond to R-values of 14 to 105 (US customary) or 3.0 to 22.2 (metric) for 3.5 in (89 mm) thickness. For comparison, typical wall insulation is 13 (US Customary) or 2.7 (metric) for the same thickness. Its melting point is 1,473 K (1,200 °C; 2,192 °F)."

By using the solidified aerogel for the binding of an assortment of basalt millispheres which are also of relatively low volumetric density with respect to their collective displacement volume, should create a stupendous quality of crush resistant and thermally tolerant filler as a layer, casting or extrusion material that's ideally suited for a hot planet application like Venus, as well as for any number of terrestrial applications.

Perhaps with an overkill titanium fiber clad shell with a final spray applied Thermablock blended coating of basalt/glass microspheres and nano-fibers would make the outer surface of each casting or extruded item extremely durable in terms of its engineered structural applications. Of course the usual gauntlet of our mainstream naysayers will have to remain relentlessly opposed, no matters what sort of applied physics or better science ever gets involved, because their job is specifically to keep pesky outsiders like us, outside of their mostly public-funded realm.

http://www.microphasecoatings.com/thermablock.php
"Thermablock(tm) is a family of high-temperature protective and insulating coatings originally developed for the US Air Force. The USAF coating is easily applied at room temperature to titanium parts in jet engines and allows those parts to be subjected to higher temperatures.
Hollow glass microspheres enhance thermal insulation ability. For high temperature, corrosive environments, a holiday-free version without the hollow glass microspheres provides an excellent barrier coating."

This is not saying that any contrived Venus airship is going to be of any straight forward and/or off-the-shelf kind of engineered application, but it is saying that this is perfectly doable in spite of what our peers and mainstream FUD-masters have been telling us.

[Brad Guth]

On Sunday, March 2, 2014 5:11:22 PM UTC-8, Brad Guth wrote:

No doubt whatsoever, that out-of-context material as to defending my topics is going to turn off most individuals that obviously want nothing to ever change for the better, unless that better includes large amounts of public-funded and/or ratepayer-funded benefits and loot going into one of their tax avoidance banks or investments. Obviously our State and Federal government wants us in as much debt as possible, because for every dollar spent gets taxed multiple times. So, they really do not care how much energy, housing, food, schooling, insurance, medical and even personal technology is costing us, as long as we keep spending more than we can possibly afford, and many of our government agencies set an example of always spending more and even taking next to forever to get stuff done, with total disregard as to whatever burden future generations are getting stuck with.

As for GuthVenus, there's never sufficient evidence for perpetual naysayers, and no amount of deductively interpreting anything as representing anything but natural and/or inert stuff is possible.

Taking a purely geological survey of any given planet or moon represents that your ability as to deductively interpreting natural surface topography and issues of its bedrock formations, as well as for its subsequent weathering and/or erosion patterns, as seriously as you'd claim to recognize those differences of any artificial or natural terrestrial patterns that simply could not be easily replicated by any known natural process, unless you'd care to offer the analogy as to such.

For example; If you're looking at the surrounding surface/ground details while standing deep inside a reservoir, there's no way of one telling as to what sort of shape or complexity that reservoir has to offer, or of what other nearby structures and/or infrastructure might even exist.

For a better understanding of any given surface area of related patterns, you'll have to stand yourself way the hell back in order to grasp the full context scale of any sizable and complex community of geological patterns and/or of interpreting whatever unnatural structures might coexist, and you'll have to be at least basic air-travel experienced and perhaps 5th grade intelligent enough in order to deductively interpret whatever it is that you get to see from an aerial perspective, because most folks of even the best education are simply not capable nor otherwise field experienced as to understanding whatever a radar scanned method of imaging has to offer that ordinary CCD and optical produced imaging that's dependent upon ambient lighting and many variable shadow issues, which simply can not provide us with the same degree of trustworthy mapping details that radar imaging has to offer.

As off-world places that tend to offer their unique surface patterns of geology, nothing to date seems to exceed what the extremely nearby planet Venus has to offer. Of course this means that you already have a perfectly good understanding as to natural terrestrial formations, and thereby already know the difference between purely natural formed patterns and of those as having been artificially created or revised of any sufficient scale, as being resolved by the imaging process that creates nothing artificial looking or vise versa on its own. In other words, unlike conventional optical imaging that's easily interfered by atmospherics as well as fooled by ambient lighting and shadow issues, radar imaging simply can not make an artificially created pattern look as though it was naturally formed.

Unfortunately, for the vast majority of our mainstream status-quo, as our cabal peers of perpetual brown-nosed naysayers and FUD-masters that'll obfuscate to suit and/or banish anything and everything ever proposed by an outsider, there is simply no amount of deductive or even objective evidence that will ever be sufficient when suggesting on behalf of anything off-world being that of any intelligent design or creation, and therefore any and all evidence is automatically classified as fake or bogus, and no further discussion or consideration is given because their God or even the purely random happenstance of molecular stuff phasing into a world of complex genetic biodiversity of life as we know it had only managed to create our kind of complex and intelligent life for Earth. Go figure how we're so so special.

The mainstream naysayism is so deeply entrenched that this is the only motive our mainstream FUD-masters ever needs, as to why no amount of any deductive interpreting or even objective evidence will ever change a damn thing as to what any other planet or moon has to offer, other than providing us with its inert treasure trove of raw elements that could never have created or having sustained any form of complex life (not even managed via applied physics).

So, when pondering as to what the image of GuthVenus has to offer, do not let your peers keep telling you what you are looking at, because they'll always insist that absolutely everything of Venus had been naturally formed into whatever complex patterns that we can interpret, and they'll do this even though they have absolutely no terrestrial analogies of any similar geology to offer or any other verified examples of similar scale and complexity of geology/topography patterns to show us. In other words, they're always right and we're always wrong, regardless of whatever our experience and best available science has to offer that can be deductively interpreted without our having doctorate degrees in everything.

GuthVenus for iPhone, Nexus, Droid and Android Jelly Bean:
Seems I'm not the only NASA/JPL/ASU and DARPA outsider that's picking up on some of those credible details, as having been entirely missed by our best public-funded experts. Even our typical 7th graders have observationology skills and expertise of deductively interpreting an image, that exceeds what most of their best peers as supposedly higher educated adults have to offer.

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/space/stories/seventh-graders-find-a-cave-on-mars
Seventh-graders find a cave on Mars
"The discovery is a candidate for imaging with a high-resolution camera, which would allow the students to look inside the cave."

Let us for a brief moment compare those researcher pay-scales, of a typical 7th grader to that of any top-level NASA/JPL/ASU or DARPA wizard. Conservatively it's roughly a million to one, and that's also without factoring in those spendy lifetime perks and benefits that could easily put this all-inclusive disparity factor at near ten million to one.

Perhaps our DARPA, NASA, JPL and ASU should dig even deeper into exploiting this considerable research cost disparity, as their new and improved holy grail of a terrific solution to their otherwise entirely deficient budget, by simply involving 5th graders that can probably see and interpret all sorts of nifty stuff missed by all of those we public-fund and must further insure their job-security along with the sort of lifetime perks and benefits that any independent private sector will never get any taste of.

Of course, of what GuthVenus has to offer is simply way bigger and a whole lot more complex looking than any little Mars sinkhole into a natural rill, especially in terms of my stuff being so unusually populated within a highly mountainous and canyon topography, as hosting symmetrical geometries and otherwise offering a highly rational community infrastructure looking site, but don't let any of that distract us from the Mars investment of mainstream hype and infomercial spin in order to keep you sufficiently snookered and otherwise distracted by its little sinkhole which looks entirely natural and as having nothing else associated as worth getting our attention.

It doesn't even require a photographic editing app for interpreting this one of what Venus has to offer, as nowadays most browsers incorporate an automatic resampling and "unsharp" filter utility that'll give a sufficient enlargement or zoom/magnification factor of at least 8:1 without distorting a darn thing. Even smartphones offer sufficient image zoom/enlarge capability of 10:1 or better, but don't bother to tell that to our NASA, DARPA, JPL, ASU or any others associated with their Magellan mission that radar imaged most of the Venus surface for us.

Thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
GuthVenus 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in question:
http://bradguth.blogspot.com/2009/07/brad-guth-index.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif

You can always remain perfectly mainstream fellowship loved, employed, and especially as for keeping yourself as job-security failsafe by simply pretending there is absolutely nothing all that special to look at (a third up and roughly center of image mgn_c115s095_1.gif).

Perhaps natural planet topography always includes those multiple units of perfectly symmetrical geometries configured in a rational looking community like infrastructure, and otherwise as having those perfectly natural geometric formed reservoirs with a strikingly enormous clover shape that are also found as typically connected to yet another remote other reservoir containing something fluid that absorbs radar scans, plus then interpreting as offering a very likely bridge item traversing a sizably wide and deep canyon that is situated right next to three clearly rectangular rock quarry sites is perhaps almost as commonplace as having a nearby community of structural looking items along with offering a very flat structured surface within a highly mountainous terrain that's fairly large and certainly long enough as for being a usable landing platform surface situated on top of a clearly raised foundation type of infrastructure as also placed within this otherwise extremely mountainous topography, and there is even more unusual extrapolation detail of symmetry if you had any observationology or deductive image interpreting expertise to speak of. Sure thing, it is obviously all perfectly natural and logically rational kinds of geology stuff, just like some of the largest scale infrastructure as found on Earth, except because of our having created it, as such would probably look as fairly natural to even a dysfunctional ET if they were as incompetent and in denial as those of our best.

On the other hand, perhaps our mainstream peers have all been instructed by those Venusian ETs to back off, essentially informed as to stay away and to keep all others uninformed of their highly productive mining operations. At least that would make perfect sense as to why so much mainstream obfuscation and denial of being in denial is getting applied against anything as having to do with the planet Venus, and especially kept so mainstream naysay and otherwise taboo/nondisclosure and/or misinformed of all things GuthVenus.