NASA’s "exceptional object in our cosmic neighborhood"
Brad Guth
funded) that's supposedly taking place today as of 9:30 EST all about?
NASA News Conference on Discovery of “Exceptional Object”
Do tell, just how "Exceptional" are we talking?
Apparently it's just another black hole or recent stellar sequence
demise/implosion that's in the process of turning into either a
neutron star or a black hole, and it's only 55+ million light years
away. (seems hardly in our stellar neighborhood, other than being
within our galaxy)
The Virgo cluster of (1500~2000) galaxies represents upwards of 1.5e15
Ms, so there's obviously a lot of galactic gravity potential plus
everything in between to work with. This means there should be an
existing Virgo Cluster population of roughly at least 20000 some odd
galactic core plus surrounding black holes as is (possibly 200,000
BHs), so what exactly is the big freaking deal about yet another one?
How much are we paying these guys?
What this means is that they’ve rediscovered that atoms combine or via
fusion morph into heavier elements on a fairly regular basis, and
because stars are not forever means newer stars are hosting and/or
comprised of such heavier elements, and when they demise from their
red supergiant phase into a white dwarf or into becoming a subsequent
nova or supernova is when that sort of substantially heavier mass of
atoms become either a neutron star or a black hole if enough supernova
mass was initially available. Do we really need to worry about
anything unless it’s a wee bit closer, such as within 10 ly?
http://spacetimesingularity.blogspot.com/2010/11/exceptional-object-in-our-cosmic.html
“During the past days, NASA announced a press release about an
important discovery "of an exceptional object in our cosmic
neighborhood". Today we know that it was about the discovery that the
SN1979C in M100 has probably generated a black hole. This would mean
that we have observed the birth of a spacetime singularity and it
occurred on human timescales (only about 30 years!).”
Even I can appreciate their public funded opportunity for learning
more about the stellar sequence that sometimes morphs into a neutron
star or black hole. However, how much of this spendy and time
consuming research that’s at best subjective can we honestly afford?
The much delayed and way spendy JWST along with the appropriate
StarShade should uncover at least another thousand fold more
interesting items, not that we can afford either of those, much less
are we immortal enough for the likes of our slow-motion NASA, or to
otherwise enjoy and keep paying for such eyecandy and subjective
science that’ll only change their interpretations on the fly, so to
speak. Mean while, our moon and the planet Venus are each being
ignored or kept as some kind of forbidden voodoo nondisclosure rated.
Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en
http://bradguth.blogspot.com/
http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsdxhv_0hrm5bdfj
Warhol
> “During the past days, NASA announced a press release about an
> important discovery "of an exceptional object in our cosmic
> neighborhood". Today we know that it was about the discovery that the
> SN1979C in M100 has probably generated a black hole. This would mean
> that we have observed the birth of a spacetime singularity and it
> occurred on human timescales (only about 30 years!).”
>
> Even I can appreciate their public funded opportunity for learning
> more about the stellar sequence that sometimes morphs into a neutron
> star or black hole. However, how much of this spendy and time
> consuming research that’s at best subjective can we honestly afford?
>
> The much delayed and way spendy JWST along with the appropriate
> StarShade should uncover at least another thousand fold more
> interesting items, not that we can afford either of those, much less
> are we immortal enough for the likes of our slow-motion NASA, or to
> otherwise enjoy and keep paying for such eyecandy and subjective
> science that’ll only change their interpretations on the fly, so to
> speak. Mean while, our moon and the planet Venus are each being
> ignored or kept as some kind of forbidden voodoo nondisclosure rated.
>
> Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
> http://groups.google.com/group/guth-usenet?hl=en
> http://bradguth.blogspot.com/
> http://docs.google.com/View?id=ddsdxhv_0hrm5bdfj
everything they announce has significance.. believe that.. they just
dont show you how to read between the lines...... something is coming
Here's the pic they want us to see...the hart of the Galaxy.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/multimedia/photoH-10-299.html
The galactic superwave does not make sense to me, that is, if it is
indeed coming radially from the center of the galaxy.
How much are these jerks costing the World to spout out this garbage?
Imagine that hey!!
They can't even goto to Mars in their rickety 'Space' crafts and they
talk about a "thing" Light Years Away!!
How utterly USELESS & SAD!!!!!!!!!!
Question 1: why the hell did you hold this press conference ?
Brad Guth
>
> The galactic superwave does not make sense to me, that is, if it is
> indeed coming radially from the center of the galaxy.
>
> How much are these jerks costing the World to spout out this garbage?
>
> Imagine that hey!!
>
> They can't even goto to Mars in their rickety 'Space' crafts and they
> talk about a "thing" Light Years Away!!
>
> How utterly USELESS & SAD!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Question 1: why the hell did you hold this press conference ?
It's pretty much about sustaining their job security with nifty
benefits, and their need to further beg President BHO to keep forking
over more of our hard earned loot, so that they get to keep the lights
on and the fun-times rolling while millions of us are losing their
homes, unemployed or underemployed and having lost most of their
retirement to boot thanks to our badly inflated economy and the kosher
approved SEC, that's not much better than our private Federal Reserve
cabal/cartel that pretty much gets to do anything they like with the
other portion of our hard earned loot.
~ BG
Warhol
they admit they "think" it's a black hole, but they don't know for
sure.
What about the two huge purple balls just below the phallic nebula and
how close to the black hole is it?
all I hearied is "probably" "most likely" "maybe" blah blah..
Brad Guth
It's the "blah blah" we always get to pay the most for, whereas
everything else is just so much superfluous eyecandy that's entirely
subjective and thus up for grabs.
Imagine what's going to happen if Sirius(B) merges with Sirius(A), or
just flares up once again and provides us with yet another nova like
it did roughly 60~64 million ears ago.
~ BG
Warhol
It was in the end about black hole and that can't be categorized to be
"exceptional" even if it was youngest or oldest.
Nasa failed again.
NEVER AN STRAIGHT ANNNNNSSSSSSSSSRRRRRRRREEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
NASA found again pile of weed and messed up their minds seeing
mushroom land around them and thought it was exceptional moment. They
found mario and luigi from there and thought they must save princess,
when they was after all holding computer mouse writing "exceptional"
300 hundred times with keyboard.
Later they found themselves from studio and thought it was just some
show where they need to talk much bullshit to win and get some cash
money to being an winner...
Later on they found out, it was conference where they should talk
about exceptional thing and they just thought it was somekind chit-
chat show, where biggest bullshit talker is winner.
Mario and luigi was saved and princess was eaten alive. One nasa
member found himself from the floor that night and woke up blood
around him. Must be exceptional or normal day at nasa. SHUTTLES
EXPLODING, WTF!!!! Nasa confirms, no one died because this is
exceptional thing and we don't know straight answer for it because...
End of pile of... ok what is going on?
Brad Guth
They are desperate for current and future funding, because they too
have deeply borrowed and/or taken out second/third/forth mortgages on
everything as based upon their getting continued public funding that
simply isn't there anymore. Few clients can afford to utilize our
NASA or DARPA.
They've had decades to make a break-even or god forbid show any
technological breakthrough, minimal profit or any hope of such, and
thus far they have worse than blow away any chance of ever making such
happen. The best we can hope for is getting a ten cent return on our
investment, but only if it were liquidated as of today, including all
retirement and/or other benefits terminated. (we all know that's not
going to happen, so we're forever stuck with our NASA and DARPA,
whereas even as dead horses that we can't afford their burial is what
we and many generations have to live with)
~ BG
Brad Guth
funded) that's supposedly taking place as of Monday 9:30 EST all
about?
NASA News Conference on Discovery of “Exceptional Object”
Do tell, just how "Exceptional" are we talking?
Apparently it's just another black hole or recent stellar sequence
demise/implosion that's in the process of turning into either a
neutron star or a black hole, and it's only 55 million light years
away. (seems hardly exceptional or even in our stellar neighborhood,
other than items within our galaxy might be considered as “our cosmic
neighborhood“)
The Virgo cluster of (1500~2000) galaxies represents upwards of 1.5e15
Ms, so there's obviously a great deal of galactic gravity potential
plus everything in between to work with. This means there should be
an existing Virgo Cluster population of roughly at least 20000 some
odd SMBHs including those of their galactic core plus all the
surrounding black holes as is (there’s conceivably an average of
500,000 BHs per galaxy if it’s old enough and otherwise nearly the
size of Andromeda and loaded with globular clusters, not to mention if
only 1% of them 1e12 stars had been worth greater than 10 Ms in their
red giant phase, and if only 0.1% of those turn into BHs is worth 10
million), so what exactly is the big freaking deal about yet another
one? (they should be hard not to find, as well as happening fairly
often enough because such massive stars [especially of those 20+ Ms]
do not last forever, and the more recent stars are composed of heavier
elements)
How much are we paying these guys?
What this means is that they’ve rediscovered that atoms combine or via
fusion morph into heavier elements on a fairly regular basis, and
because stars are not forever (especially those of 10 Ms and larger)
means newer stars of greater metallicity are hosting and/or comprised
of such heavier elements, and when they demise from their red
supergiant phase into a substantial white dwarf or phase directly into
becoming a subsequent nova or supernova is when that sort of
substantially heavier stellar mass of atoms become either a neutron
star or a black hole if enough supernova worthy mass was initially
available. Do we really need to ponder and/or worry about anything
unless it’s a wee bit closer, such as within 10 ly or at most a few
hundred light years?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518598,00.html
“Hundreds of massive black holes left over from the early universe
may wander the Milky Way, according to new calculations.”
How many hundred thousand black holes (massive, medium and small) does
the Andromeda galaxy have to offer? (so why look 50+ million light
years further away and that much further back in time?) At least the
Andromeda gap is closing at 300 km/sec, and it’s only at most 2.5 ly
distant as is, and every few years there has to be another massive
stellar demise taking place (if not several), and if galaxies merge on
as nearly edge, there should be exceptional views of black holes and
most everything else to contemplate. Of course our cosmic flash in
the pan existence will have been long gone as of a couple billion
years before Andromeda interacts with our galaxy, so, it’s certainly
hard to justify the billions spent and talent wasted every year after
year on such research and eyecandy that can’t possibly benefit us.
http://spacetimesingularity.blogspot.com/2010/11/exceptional-object-in-our-cosmic.html
“During the past days, NASA announced a press release about an
important discovery "of an exceptional object in our cosmic
neighborhood". Today we know that it was about the discovery that the
SN1979C in M100 has probably generated a black hole. This would mean
that we have observed the birth of a spacetime singularity and it
occurred on human timescales (only about 30 years!).”
Even I can appreciate their public funded opportunity for learning
more about the stellar sequence that sometimes morphs into a neutron
star or black hole. However, how much of this spendy and time
consuming research that’s at best subjective can we honestly afford?
(it’s not exactly as though anyone below the rich and powerful level
has any spare cash to blow, and it seems the truly wealthy don’t
hardly pay their fair share anyway without finding another way of
charging the rest of us at least double)
The much delayed and way spendy JWST along with the appropriate
StarShade should uncover at least another thousand fold more
interesting items (including rogue items and exoplanets smaller than
Earth), not that we can afford either of those missions, much less are
we immortal enough for the likes of our slow-motion and somewhat
dysfunctional NASA, or to otherwise enjoy and keep paying for such
eyecandy and subjective science that’ll only change their
interpretations on the fly, so to speak. Meanwhile, our moon and the
planet Venus are each being ignored or kept as some kind of forbidden
voodoo or nondisclosure rated. How the hell Venus can be mainstream
ignored or obfuscated by way of systematic naysay and denial is beyond
me.
Warhol
They could have hold a press conference about so many things, but they
choose not todo so...
Ancient Catastrophes determined to be on cyclical basis [precise
calendar]. Three comet clusters associated with catastrophic cycle
from multiple ancient cultures. [Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek/Roman,
Aztec, Mayan, Hopi, etc.]
Cluster A now detectable near Sun [Sungrazers], causing current
perturbations (solar flares and magnetic filaments) of the Sun and (in
turn) Terrestrial climate change, dramatic rise in geological
instability of Earth (increased earthquakes and volcanic activity,
tidal anomalies, landslides and sinkholes, "Gulf Oil Volcano") and
atmospheric fireballs/explosions reported globally (Indonesian meteor
explosion/October 2009/Colombian meteor impact September 2010/San
Bruno, CA "Event"). Climatic and geological changes also currently
being observed on all planets in our solar system [surface of Pluto
changing colors, multiple comet impacts witnessed on Jupiter in
2009/10, impact on Venus 2009].
Trajectory of comet cluster indeterminable due to extenuating factors
(out-gassing, exact Astronomical Unit distance and Mass of Extra-Solar
System object, [Cometh of Warhol, Nibiru, Nemesis, Quetzalcoatl,
Vulcan, Marduk, Phaeton, Kulkulkan, Wormwood, et al.] gravitational
forces of Sun, Jupiter and other planets.) Ancient cultures feared
this planet/star as a god because of its devastating effects on planet
Earth.
The passage of ESSO also coincides with arrival of interstellar dust
cloud/plasma field. As Earth is drawn into the denser parts of the
Plasma Field, the dust cloud/plasma interacts with Earth's protective
shield (magnetosphere), odd atmospheric phenomena will be reported in
the skies around the world (Norway Spiral December 2009/Australia
spiral June 2010).
These spirals were witnessed by the ancients, who carved the sacred
spiral symbol in rocks and in caves on all continents of the planet
(save Antarctica) thousands of years ago, as they witnessed these
spirals in the sky shortly before the last Earth Catastrophe (Noah's
Flood/Epic of Gilgamesh/Lost City of Atlantis/Destruction of Sodom &
Gomorrah/Decaulion Flood "myth", etc.).
Interactions with higher density plasma will also cause odd lightning
and magnetic phenomena (change/alteration in global cloud patterns,
dramatic rise in torrential rains and flooding and bizarre lightning
displays and booming, resonating thunder). Increasing plasma energy
will affect all forms of life. Initially, this will manifest in
smaller life forms (insects and non-vertebrae) that will begin to
flourish [massive insect swarms/Plagues of Egypt (locust swarms/
bedbugs, jellyfish "explosion" in the oceans.] Increase in algae/
bacteria (red tide) in oceans and rivers (another Plague of Egypt,
"the water turned red as blood"). Disorientation and increase in
aggressive behaviors [unusual, vicious animal attacks] in mammals
(including humans). The plasma field will also compromise human and
animal immune systems, creating outbreaks of new diseases (Swine Flu)
as it slowly poisons. As these events manifest, the arrival of the
cataclysmic comet swarms draws perilously close. (Comet Hartley/NASA's
"Deep Impact" Project October 2010).
Noticeable changes in global socioeconomic establishments will precede
catastrophic events. Major, unusual shifts in political maneuverings
between countries should accelerate accordingly, as preparations are
made for event mode [STUXNET/"Mystery Missile" launches across US].
Media black-outs on events in the higher realm of odd or unusual [US
Military classifying incoming asteroid/comet threats as Top Secret].
Complete breakdown of global weather patterns attributed to extra-
solar system object/interstellar dust cloud/comet swarm will be
difficult to conceal, as untold millions around the world will be
victims to ever-increasing weather catastrophes. Slow realization that
human activity is NOT responsible for current climate change will
arrive too late. Past impact zones on Earth documented at length, many
responsible for recorded Ice Ages and Extinction Level Events.
Ancient timekeepers/ astronomers / Watchers (Maya, Egyptian, Inca,
Hopi, etc.) knew where to look for this object and tried to warn
humanity of its impending "return". Knowledge and clues of this
objects existence were embedded in ancient monuments, stone carvings,
oral tradition, literature, religious beliefs and sculptures and
paintings for centuries. The prelude of its arrival is already
creating the news headlines currently being witnessed globally. These
events will increase at a more rapid and intense pace the closer this
object approaches.
Preparations should be well under way for all private individuals...
But NASA failed to warn the world of Cometh danger.
The Dawa is on them, and they will be surmond to the Tribunal of
Gran'Da'Dy
Brad Guth
have to revise my estimate of available BHs, because it looks as
though we need something greater than 40Ms to accomplish this level of
stellar sequence for a star becoming a BH.
So what's this really big news conference (naturally as always public
funded) that's supposedly taking place as of Monday 9:30 EST all
about?
NASA News Conference on Discovery of “Exceptional Object”
Do tell, just how "Exceptional", extra special or unusual are we
talking?
Apparently it's just another black hole or recent stellar sequence
demise/implosion that's in the process of turning into either a
neutron star or a black hole, and to think it's only 55 million light
years away. (seems hardly exceptional or even in our stellar
neighborhood, other than items within our galaxy might be considered
as “our cosmic neighborhood“)
The Virgo cluster of (1500~2000) galaxies represents upwards of 1.5e15
Ms, so there's obviously a great deal of galactic gravity potential
plus everything in between to work with. This means there should be
an existing Virgo Cluster population of roughly at least 20000 some
odd SMBHs including those of their galactic core plus all their
surrounding massive black holes as is (there’s conceivably an average
population of 100,000 BHs per galaxy if it’s old enough and otherwise
nearly the size of Andromeda and loaded with globular clusters, not to
mention if only .1% of them 1e12 stars had been worth greater than 40
Ms as going into their red giant phase, and if only 0.1% of those turn
into BHs is worth a million), so what exactly is the big freaking deal
about yet another BH?
They should be hard not to find, as well as happening fairly often
enough because, such massive stars [especially of those 50+ Ms] do not
last forever, and the more recent of these massive enough stars are
composed of those heavier elements in addition to the usual hydrogen
and helium that gets converted and/or tossed away fairly quickly, such
as less than 5e6 years from start to finish for a 50 Ms to terminate
into a neutron or black hole.
Actually our sun started out as something greater than 2.5e30 kg, but
the mainstream status-quo will obviously keep insisting upon using
2e30 kg as the Ms standard, and otherwise Earth was perhaps originally
orbiting at least half way towards the realm of where Venus currently
resides. As our sun continues to age and lose mass, eventually
shifting into the red giant phase, and if we’re lucky enough to still
inhabit whatever is left of our Eden/Earth is when we might end up
near the orbit of Mars before the final helium flashover into the
white dwarf phase takes place, and subsequently we get set free to
roam about the galaxy along with all the other surviving planets and
their moons.
Remind us how much are we paying these NASA and other approved guys?
What this young BH announcement means is that they’ve rediscovered
that atoms combine or via fusion morph into heavier elements on a
fairly regular basis, and because stars are not forever (especially
those of 40+ Ms) means newer stars of greater metallicity are hosting
and/or comprised of such heavier elements, and when they demise from
their red supergiant phase into a substantial white dwarf or phase
directly into becoming a subsequent nova or supernova in as little as
a few million years from birth is when that sort of substantially
heavier stellar remaining mass of atoms become either a neutron star
or a black hole if enough supernova worthy mass (minimum of 40 Ms) was
initially available. Do we really need to ponder and/or worry about
any such thing unless it’s a wee bit closer, such as within 10 ly or
at most a few hundred light years?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518598,00.html
“Hundreds of massive black holes left over from the early universe
may wander the Milky Way, according to new calculations.”
How many hundred thousand black holes (super-massive, average and
small) does the Andromeda galaxy have to offer? (so why look 50+
million light years further away and that much further back in time?)
At least the Andromeda gap is closing at 300 km/sec, and it’s only at
most 2.5 ly distant as is, and every few years there has to be another
massive stellar demise taking place (if not several), and if galaxies
merge as nearly edge-on there should be exceptional views of black
holes, neutron stars and most everything else to contemplate. Of
course our cosmic flash-in-the-pan existence will have been long gone
as of a couple billion years before Andromeda interacts with our
galaxy, so, it’s certainly hard to justify the billions spent and
talent wasted every year after year on such research and eyecandy that
can’t possibly benefit us. This kind of extreme astronomy or
astrophysics is like another tax avoidance hobby gone wild and public-
funded to boot.
http://spacetimesingularity.blogspot.com/2010/11/exceptional-object-in-our-cosmic.html
“During the past days, NASA announced a press release about an
important discovery "of an exceptional object in our cosmic
neighborhood". Today we know that it was about the discovery that the
SN1979C in M100 has probably generated a black hole. This would mean
that we have observed the birth of a spacetime singularity and it
occurred on human timescales (only about 30 years!).”
Even I can appreciate their public funded opportunity for learning
more about the stellar sequence that sometimes morphs into a neutron
star or black hole. However, how much of this spendy and time
consuming research that’s at best subjective can we honestly afford?
(it’s not exactly as though anyone below the rich and powerful level
has any spare cash to blow, and it seems the truly wealthy don’t
hardly pay their fair share anyway without finding another way of
charging the rest of us at least double)
The much delayed and way spendy JWST along with the appropriate
StarShade should uncover at least another thousand fold more
interesting items (including rogue items and exoplanets smaller than
Earth), not that we can afford either of those missions, much less are
we immortal enough for the likes of our slow-motion and somewhat
dysfunctional NASA that’s nearly always late and over budget, or to
otherwise enjoy and keep paying for such eyecandy and subjective
science that’ll only end up changing their interpretations on the fly,
so to speak, as each new and improved instruments becomes available.
Meanwhile, our terrific moon and the planet Venus are each being
ignored or kept as some kind of forbidden voodoo or nondisclosure
rated. How the hell Venus can be mainstream ignored or obfuscated by
way of systematic naysay and denial is beyond me.
Brad Guth / Blog and my Google document pages:
Brad Guth
NASA and DARPA could do lots of interesting and useful stuff, even
turn a small profit if they had to, but lo and behold there's no such
luck when the ZNRs and GOPs are in charge and the general public that
gets to pay for everything is snookered and dumbfounded past the point
of no return. Too bad there's not a single Moor anywhere within
either of those agencies, though oddly there's still a very high
percentage of Zionists/Jews.
~ BG