Marvin Miller tells it like it is...

[Anthony Summers]

...not that any of the numbskulls with pitchforks and torches in their
hands will listen long enough to understand how right he's got it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3896888

Selected snippets:

? On the argument that steroids should be eliminated from the game
because of health concerns: "Not one but two surgeons general have said
that tobacco use is the worst cause of death in the United States that
can be prevented -- that we lose 400,000 people a year to tobacco-
related incidents and over time it runs into the millions. Yet not only
do we not outlaw tobacco, but the U.S. Congress keeps giving subsidies
to the tobacco industry and everybody sits back and smiles. On the other
hand, there's not one single documented death from the use of steroids.
So that's a hypocritical lie."

? On the media's role in perpetuating steroid use by referring to the
drugs as "performance enhancers": "A kid who would love to be a
professional athlete reads the sports pages or watches ESPN and is told
over and over again, 'These are performance-enhancing drugs. They will
make you a Barry Bonds or an A-Rod or a Roger Clemens.' The media,
without evidence, keep telling young people all over the country, 'All
you have to do to be a famous athlete with lots of money is take
steroids.' The media are the greatest merchants of encouraging this that
I've ever seen."

Well said, Mr. Miller. Very well said, indeed.

--
A. Summers || summerstorm0007-->at<--yahoo.com

[Tarkus]

Yes, indeed.

[dam]

While his points are mildly interesting, he has nothing to new to
offer on how to eliminate chemical-related cheating from baseball and
tries to present it as a workers rights issue. His tone is one of a
typical union stooge. The guy is still an idot.

dam

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Gods don’t kill people. People with Gods kill people. - David Viaene

[stephenj]

Anthony Summers wrote:

> Selected snippets:
>
> ? On the argument that steroids should be eliminated from the game
> because of health concerns: "Not one but two surgeons general have said
> that tobacco use is the worst cause of death in the United States that
> can be prevented -- that we lose 400,000 people a year to tobacco-
> related incidents and over time it runs into the millions. Yet not only
> do we not outlaw tobacco, but the U.S. Congress keeps giving subsidies
> to the tobacco industry and everybody sits back and smiles. On the other
> hand, there's not one single documented death from the use of steroids.
> So that's a hypocritical lie."

What does federal hypocrisy have to do with what baseball should allow?

> ? On the media's role in perpetuating steroid use by referring to the
> drugs as "performance enhancers": "A kid who would love to be a
> professional athlete reads the sports pages or watches ESPN and is told
> over and over again, 'These are performance-enhancing drugs. They will
> make you a Barry Bonds or an A-Rod or a Roger Clemens.' The media,
> without evidence, keep telling young people all over the country, 'All
> you have to do to be a famous athlete with lots of money is take
> steroids.' The media are the greatest merchants of encouraging this that
> I've ever seen."

Without evidence? There's lots of evidence that steroids do enhance
athletic abillity. What is the mdedia supposed to do, not say it?

--
"Look at any 'democratic' country, like America.
In these countries the real business of 'state' is carried
on by departments, staffs, and bureaus...Parliaments
are only places where chattering goes on with the purpose
of fooling the 'common people'."

- V.I. Lenin

[Bruce Scott TOK]

Finally someone prominent mentions tobacco. Now, if only some major
figures in the media will connect the same dots concerning the "war on
drugs".

Tobacco is by far the most harmful drug to any large society in the
world. Any effort that addresses drugs of any sort other than tobacco,
without addressing tobacco, is nothing more than a sad political joke.

--
ciao,
Bruce

drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/

[coach...@hotmail.com]

On Feb 11, 9:23 am, Bruce Scott TOK <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-

And yet, tell, me, how many players gained an unfair advantage over
their competition becasue they used TOBACCO products????????????

What a hoot!

You are either tying to minimize the effects of steroid use on today's
athelete, the effects it has on him compared to this competitors who
choose NOT to use them, the mockery of the record books made because
of them, the number of games influenced by known cheaters, the
integrity of the game,

OR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are just being stupid!

I thought trying to compare greenies to steroids was the ultimate in
stupiditity.

I was wrong.

Tobacco products????????????

Geeze, what's next?????????????????

Coffee??????????????????????????

Pepsi?????????????????????????

A good nights rest???????????????????????