Vehicle tracking devices
tubbytonKa
You seem to be making your problem a little bit more
complicated than it needs to be.
Why "bump into someone" when a midnight visit with a lead
pipe will suffice, and if the someone is hard as nails then
you need some re-inforcements.
Quite simply stop being a pussy and kick his silly arse
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Riptide
that we can try to find an alternate solution cause the tracking bug thing
is insane. That kind of stuff is best left to professionals like Scooby Doo
and Shaggy.
Riptide
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> On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:52:51 -0800, tubbytonKa
> <bigmurdo...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Listen Mate.
> >
> >You seem to be making your problem a little bit more
> >complicated than it needs to be.
> >
> >Why "bump into someone" when a midnight visit with a lead
> >pipe will suffice, and if the someone is hard as nails then
> >you need some re-inforcements.
> >
>
>
> >Quite simply stop being a pussy and kick his silly arse
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Dude, if that was my problem, I have phone numbers of people who make
midnight
> visits. This problem is totally different, you couldn't be more far off.
>
>
> Quite simply stop being an illiterate and read what I said... I said the
person
>
> needs to be SPOKEN WITH, not beaten up.
>
>
Groda
> I need to do something morally wrong to accomplish something morally
right...
> Someone needs to be "bumped into" by accident at a public place
within the next
> few weeks, and spoken to. Since the person could be at any one of a
hundred
> places, and since physical layout and time constraints make it
impossible for me
> to follow the person, I was hoping to plant some sort of tracking
device
> underneath the person's car so I would know where the person would be
and could
> arrange the meeting easily.
>
> I already know about the satellite positioning devices that function
along the
> same lines as Lojack, but that's not an option because of price. A
review of
> the Radio Shack catalog reveals they offer some two-way pagers where
one pager
> can be set to give off a continual signal (presuming a person applied
duct tape
> to keep the "TALK" button depressed or just modified the wiring
equivalently).
> But, since these devices are fairly cheap, and since it would be
mounted beneath
> a car with tons of electrical interference, I wonder how effective
they'd be in
> terms of distance/range, or if there is some alternate type of
device -- whether
> or not it was designed for that purpose -- which would accomplish
what I want.
>
> It's weird when a person has to resort to something like this, but
the lives of
> at least three people would be made MUCH happier if I could find a
way. I hope
> someone can point me in the right direction, all advice
appreciated... This
> one's DEFINITELY for a good cause, people.
>
If price is a factor, you might as well quit now.
--
Workingmen of all countries, unite!
-Karl Marx
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Before you buy.
Eggotwrp
went through that, but as far as we ever got was throwing a rope into the tree
in the front yard. he'll do the same.
eggo
>Subject: Re: Vehicle tracking devices
>From: tubbytonKa bigmurdo...@hotmail.com.invalid
>Date: Tue, 18 January 2000 01:52 PM EST
>Message-id: <0327e4fa...@usw-ex0108-061.remarq.com>
>
>Listen Mate.
>
>You seem to be making your problem a little bit more
>complicated than it needs to be.
>
>Why "bump into someone" when a midnight visit with a lead
>pipe will suffice, and if the someone is hard as nails then
>you need some re-inforcements.
>
>Quite simply stop being a pussy and kick his silly arse
>
>
Groda
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 05:42:25 GMT, Groda <gr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >If price is a factor, you might as well quit now.
>
>
GPS devices don't come cheap. And I suppose that hooking something up
to a GPS reciever to make it transmit its location would be even less
cheap.
Rufus T. Firefly
> one's DEFINITELY for a good cause, people.
Out of curiosity, how good? What kind of cause?
-- RTF
http://bounce.to/rtf - personal page
http://connect.to/cwp - Celebrities with Phones archive
Groda
> Out of curiosity, how good? What kind of cause?
>
> -- RTF
He's a loan shark, what else? Hehehe…
Eggotwrp
eggo
>Lest you've forgotten, I was the same person a month back who praised you on
>what a great job you did with Smite. I hope I won't have to tell you to go
>fuck
>yourself soon...
>
Cam0 Man
you know where it is. So why wouldn't you just follow it from there and
then smash it up?
-camo-
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tubbytonKa
maybe beating him up is a bit rash, but even still you
could go round to his house and talk to him/her.
and while we are at it how about telling us what it's all
about?
-
nipper
you = poor
you being poor = you are also stupid
tracking a vehicle = owning (0wn1ng, what have you...) your own
satellite
owning a satellite requires having money, or sk33lz. Since you're poor
and stupid, you out of luck, buck-o.
Hawkeye 6.49
What a bunch of dicks. I thought this news group was better then this.
This is a viable question, (though not on this NG) Maybe flaming for
posting to the wrong group but you're all being dorks! As to the
question if you need to do it cheap, and you have friends, this could
work. Http://internettrash.com/users/cyberthief/index.html On there he
has a file by "ford perfect" called bug detector and tracker. Either
under phreaking, or misc txts, if you don't find it keep looking all
over the sight, it's there. Then do some research on a triangulation
and you might be able to do it. But you could always do like Homer,
follow the yellow drip road. I hope I was able to help.-Hawkeye 6.49
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought
which they avoid. "
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "
- Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
"Wise men make proverbs, but fools repeat them. "
- Samuel Palmer (1805-80)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. "
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens."
- Jimi Hendrix
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Mag475sWeb
>Usenet is the world, it's not possible for me to explain fully here. I'm a
>very
>well educated person. I've done some investigative work myself and I have
>personal friends who are licensed investigators. We've all discussed the
>particulars of the matter at length and, short of doing it the way I said,
>there's really no other viable solution we can come up with.
>
>Plain and simple, it's a situation where Person X can be at any one of 100
>different locations. You need to know which location, and when. Short of
>actually following someone, which can't be done, how else could one do this
>other than what I proposed? If you can think up some other way, believe me,
>I'd
>be grateful. Phone taps would be useless because 99% of the time the person
>would not be on the phone to provide any clues.
>
Well, let me throw in my 2 bits, and maybe some raw meat to keep the sharp
tounge of Nipper out of your back...<grin>...
You say you already know a few private investigators...My first reaction is to
say, go to them for the tech Q & A...There ARE quite a few civiallian avalible
tracking devices that can be as complex as multi-grid displaying GPS's to
Rat-Shack simple "Beep-Beep" boxes...You'd be better off going to them for the
actully equipment, since they'd more than likely have to experiance of
utilizing it fully...
However, if for some reason or another you cant do it electronically, you'll
have to go back to the old-fashioned Mark-1 Mod-0
method of just following at a distance.
This is especially effective if you have time...That way you can mark the
pattern & habits of your subject...If you know at Wed at 2pm he likes to get a
slice and a Coke from Luigi's on Elm street...nuff said.
Basiclly, its only as effective as you are...if you can bring in more people,
you can cover more area, of course (which brings in/up those investigator
friends of yours)...Between at least 4 people in 2 cars you can follow anyone
in a metro city with a 75% chance of not even being noticed, especially if the
person is not looking for survailance in the first place..Good Luck!
"Offered for information purpose only... What you do, ILLEGALY, with it, will
only send YOU to jail, and leave me free to testify against you...(And kick
your well-fucked ass if/when you get out)..Good Luck!" (c)2000
Groda
> If your theory were true, BUCK-O, the following logic would ALSO
apply:
>
> phreaking = devices to bypass paying for calls
> telephone calls = cheap
> you = phreaker
> you = can't even afford cheap
> you = poor
> you being poor = you are also stupid
>
> Of course I couldn't disagree more with the above if I tried. But if
your logic
> were true, I guess you and I are both poor, stupid and out-of-luck.
>
ROTFLMAO!
sando...@my-deja.com
in the past week? I really didn't want to have to post to this
newsgroup seeing as there is no relevance to phreaking in this message..
but if this is the only way I can contact you...snuh..check your mail
In article <865q00$4de$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
nipper
hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...
"Hawkeye 6.49" wrote:
> In article <864vts$goh$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Groda <gr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Out of curiosity, how good? What kind of cause?
> > >
> > > -- RTF
> >
> > He's a loan shark, what else? Hehehe…
> >
> > --
> > Workingmen of all countries, unite!
> > -Karl Marx
> >
nipper
SATELLITES...
88...@anonymous.com wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:16:23 -0500, nipper <n1p...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >How's this for elaboration?
> >you = poor
> >you being poor = you are also stupid
> >tracking a vehicle = owning (0wn1ng, what have you...) your own
> >satellite
> >owning a satellite requires having money, or sk33lz. Since you're poor
> >and stupid, you out of luck, buck-o.
>
Groda
> it's ford pREfect, you asshole. Christ, everybody should be forced
to read
> hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...
>
Noone should be forced to read "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."
Everybody would hate it, and we'd seem even weirder for liking it than
we do already. Do you want every bimbo on AOL to know the following?:
-Why God is dead.
-What the meaning of life is.
-The unfortunate concequenses of when whales appear in orbit.
Eggotwrp
NG. you posted anonymously (god that's hard to spell), so i had no reason to
think otherwise. you might want to check on a line of toys made by tyco called
"spy tech" i had alot of those things and one of them was a tracking device
(ultrasonic, not radio) if you can wait, i think i'll reverse engineer it (yes,
i still have it) and put it in SMITE.
eggo
>On 19 Jan 2000 21:27:34 GMT, eggo...@aol.com (Eggotwrp) wrote:
>
>>you didn't like the zine? please elaborate. i could use some criticism.
>>eggo
>
>
>I loved it. I told you I thought you had a great writing style, etc. etc.
>and
>then come back a month later and post a request for help with regard to
>something and look how you replied.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hawkeye 6.49
sando...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Thats funny you bring this up hawkeye...have you checked your deja
> in the past week? I really didn't want to have to post to this
> newsgroup seeing as there is no relevance to phreaking in this
message..
> but if this is the only way I can contact you...snuh..check your mail
>
> In article <865q00$4de$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Hawkeye 6.49 <hawke...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > Before you buy.
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
No, I didn't. I use hotmail. Most of the time I forget to set the thing
when I post to my hotmail address, and that is my fault. I JUST checked
it for the first time and there weren't any e-mails there. Whatever you
want to send me---> hawke...@hotmail.com
-Hawkeye 6.49
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought
which they avoid. "
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "
- Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
"Wise men make proverbs, but fools repeat them. "
- Samuel Palmer (1805-80)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. "
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens."
- Jimi Hendrix
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Mag475sWeb
>c'mon!! he just wants to be batman. (do kids still want to be batman?)
Well, i know this "kid" wouldn't mind being Batman...but not that nitwit from
the tv show...Im more partial to the Dark Knight, Tear-Open-Dat-Ribcage Batman
thats soooo fuckin cool...<grin>...
Plus, think of all the fun you can have phreakin with all that money, eh?
Mag475sWeb
>can.
The best place to take a look is in the back of Popular Electronics/Mechanics
Zines...They'll usually carry ads for tracking devices or other such geegaws
that fit the parameters you're looking for....If money is THAT important,
Radio Shack also sells "do it yourself" type hoppy kits, that while not EXACTLY
like the other stuff, are more basic, and still get the job done. Other places
that fit between the two extremes, JAYCO eletronitcs, MTM Eletronics
shops...Try a global websearch for Hobby eletronics, and survalence gear...
>Problem is, the matter has already been discussed with my friends at length.
>Although they're licensed PI's, they don't use such equipment nor do they
>know
>about it.
Probably true. But they dont have to be all that sofisticated on technique.
Other than knowing how to stay far enough away from the mark, and /or know how
to drive and use a radio. If they can do that, and are pretty ordinary looking,
they can do survalence. Remeber you need people that can think and, well,
bluntly, warm bodies in that reguard....
>Already thought of, too. :) Unfortunately, all known patterns pertain to
>locations where the subject would go but where I would have no reason to be.
Ok, then- thats when the extra warm bodies MIGHT be needed. Otherwise, indeed,
your SOL. If your mark has a somewhat set schedule (Home to diner, work then
home) its not so bad. You know the place, you'll have time to examine the
layout (alternate exits, line of sight, restroom, communitcations, etc) and set
up your watch area...You dont have BE in the same room, if you know that once
he enters that room, he can only exit one way
True, its harder when its a place where it'll have multiple exits or he's
somewhat random, but you can only find out by watching right now, and doing a
common-sense evaluation...
>last-resort type of thing. If nothing of value was gained by it, this last
>suggestion of yours was precisely what I intended to do. Well, not in such a
>large-scale way as you say, but yes, exactly along those lines.
Doesnt HAVE to be large scale...Like i said, you can be effective, from what i
read of your problem, if you follow your mark with 1-4 people. It all depends
how good you wanna really cover this person, how far your willing to go, how
much $$$ you can afford...(always the great equalizer)
>Thanks for your time in replying and offering what insight you could. If
>there's anything else you can think of, or can elaborate more about, I'd be
>happy to hear.
No problem.
Mag475sWeb
>Noone should be forced to read "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy."
>Everybody would hate it, and we'd seem even weirder for liking it than
>we do already. Do you want every bimbo on AOL to know the following?:
Too late sport...Read HHGTTG, and the spin offs eons ago, and still enjoy
it...Actully, i enjoy alot of British Sci-fi/Comedy (Red Dwarf RULES!) except i
cannot for the life of me understand Dr Who, leave that to my brother...oh
well..
And as a person that uses AOL & a isp, quite frankly, if you know of any
Bimbos on here, send me thier email address, been looking for years for them on
here! (I knew that paying $20 a month was a great deal....)
>-Why God is dead.
>-What the meaning of life is.
>-The unfortunate concequenses of when whales appear in orbit.
God isnt dead, he's just ignoring you. The meaning of life is 47 (so whats the
question?). And thats not a whale in orbit, thats Rosie O'Donnell...She finally
got so full of it, she floated away. And good fuckin' riddance.
zare
Groda
> Too late sport...Read HHGTTG, and the spin offs eons ago, and still
enjoy
> it...
Have you read all of the HHGG books yet?
> Actully, i enjoy alot of British Sci-fi/Comedy (Red Dwarf RULES!)
except i
> cannot for the life of me understand Dr Who, leave that to my
brother...oh
> well..
>
What's "Red Dwarf" like? I've heard alot of people talking about it.
> And as a person that uses AOL & a isp, quite frankly, if you know of
any
> Bimbos on here, send me thier email address, been looking for years
for them on
> here! (I knew that paying $20 a month was a great deal....)
>
> God isnt dead, he's just ignoring you.
That was a reference to HHGG.
> The meaning of life is 47 (so whats the
> question?).
It's 42. And the question is "What is 6 times 9?" or "How many roads
must a man walk?"
> And thats not a whale in orbit, thats Rosie O'Donnell...She finally
> got so full of it, she floated away. And good fuckin' riddance.
But wasn't it funny what happened to that unfortunate whale?
Bye, and don't forget your towel.
--
Workingmen of all countries, unite!
-Karl Marx
Mag475sWeb
>Did that. Best I could find so far was one place selling the real deal --
>the
>GTS -- for $700. Well out of my range, but still relatively cheap compared
>to
>what I've seen other places carry it for.
Thats odd...Well, i know i've seen GPS systems wayyy cheaper than $700...Lemme
see, ummm...Try a company called Gander Mountain, they sell outdoorsman stuff,
they usually carry GPS basics stuff for about $299 (est)
>
>Common sense in this project, though, revealed a worst-case scenario come
>true:
>a nightmare-from-hell layout, more exits and entrances than you could
>imagine,
>etc.
Remeber KISS, guy!...You can mark out the more obvious ones the mark might use.
Figure out if he's knows he's under survailence, if not, then you take away the
doors which is limited access (service entrance, time-controlled doors, etc)
compared to public access areas....Find out what time the building locks up,
what kind of security level is in place (24hrs? Mobile Guard force? Cameras,
etc etc)...Get a few notebooks, and use them all- Remeber, information is your
weapon.
>>Could it be done with enough "warm bodies", as you say? Sure. Can't
>find
>that many bodies, though. And plus, the more people you involve --
>especially
>people who've had no experience doing this thing -- the more risk you run
>that
>one of them's gonna be not-so-bright and do something to screw it up.
>
Well, thats a risk you'll have to assess...Even by using one extra person, you
reduce your load by 50%, while increasing your effectiveness by 100%...Plus, a
different view by someone on a problem can offer better solutions...
Mag475sWeb
>Have you read all of the HHGG books yet?
Just about..no wait, dont think i read "Mostly Harmless", yet..
>What's "Red Dwarf" like? I've heard alot of people talking about it.
Real cool show (rumors that it would be done here in US but still a rumor,
mostly cuz they wanted to "change" the show for a US audience, go fig)
Basically, the show is about a guy, Dave Lister, whom after being put in stasis
for not turning over a pet cat for quarentee (and dissection to make sure that
its not carrying any of those nasty plauges...) is awaken 3 million years later
by the ships computer after the radiation leak, caused by Listerss roomate,
Arnold J (Judas) Rimmer, who now is a hologram on the ship...Along with the
Kat, whom evolved from the orignal cat that Lister had brought onto the ship,
that was saved from the radiation leak by being locked in the hold...Oh, and
did i mention, the Ships computer, Holly, that after being left alone for said
3 million years, pretty much lost, oh about 90% of the 6000 IQ he had
before???...
Thats just a generwl outline for the story, for the full rundown (a few more
details left out by me, cuz its EARLY! in the AM here) of the show...Its way
great scifi and i would LOVE to see it on the SciFi network, but if your not
into British comedy, its sometimes hard to follow...Not really technical, but
alot of laughs...Try www.redwarf.com or do a gobal search for same...
>
>That was a reference to HHGG.
>
I know, was just being a unrepentant smartass...
>
>It's 42. And the question is "What is 6 times 9?" or "How many roads
>must a man walk?"
>
Knew it was either 42 or 47...couldnt remeber...Hey, im writing these posts at
3am for Gods sake...!>
>But wasn't it funny what happened to that unfortunate whale?
Yup, which is why i keep sending Rosie airline tix..But she aint biting. I
think she's onto me!..
>
>Bye, and don't forget your towel.
Never.
Hawkeye 6.49
I saw a couple of them. They were okay. I remember this one where
everything on the planet was done backwards and at the end one of the
guys had to take a shit. . . use your imaginations. . . .
-Hawkeye 6.49
"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought
which they avoid. "
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
"Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "
- Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
"Wise men make proverbs, but fools repeat them. "
- Samuel Palmer (1805-80)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. "
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens."
- Jimi Hendrix
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds."
- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
E-mail me at:
--Hawk...@hotmail.ubetterfuckinknow--
Groda
> Real cool show (rumors that it would be done here in US but still a
rumor,
> mostly cuz they wanted to "change" the show for a US audience, go fig)
> Basically, the show is about a guy, Dave Lister, whom after being put
in stasis
> for not turning over a pet cat for quarentee (and dissection to make
sure that
> its not carrying any of those nasty plauges...) is awaken 3 million
years later
> by the ships computer after the radiation leak, caused by Listerss
roomate,
> Arnold J (Judas) Rimmer, who now is a hologram on the ship...Along
with the
> Kat, whom evolved from the orignal cat that Lister had brought onto
the ship,
> that was saved from the radiation leak by being locked in the
hold...Oh, and
> did i mention, the Ships computer, Holly, that after being left alone
for said
> 3 million years, pretty much lost, oh about 90% of the 6000 IQ he had
> before???...
>
That sounds *VERY* familiar. I just know I've heard that storyline
before. Thank you much for the info!!!
> Thats just a generwl outline for the story, for the full rundown (a
few more
> details left out by me, cuz its EARLY! in the AM here) of the
show...Its way
> great scifi and i would LOVE to see it on the SciFi network, but if
your not
> into British comedy, its sometimes hard to follow...Not really
technical, but
> alot of laughs...Try www.redwarf.com or do a gobal search for same...
>
"NOT INTO BRITISH COMEDY"!? I have seen all but two of the Monty
Python episodes and I bitched at the Cable company when they changed
the BBC network we had to that damned BBC America.
I am off to make some fjords just past Lake Shore Drive. The guys in
Andersonville will be grateful.
--
Workingmen of all countries, unite!
-Karl Marx
Mag475sWeb
>I saw a couple of them. They were okay. I remember this one where
>everything on the planet was done backwards and at the end one of the
>guys had to take a shit. . . use your imaginations. . . .
>
>-Hawkeye 6.49
>
One of the better episodes...Its amazing really how popular the series had
gotten in so short a time..But i think its partly due to that Brit tv, unlike
here, if the show isnt popular enough, it gets axed forthwith...
"Offered for information purpose only... What you do, ILLEGALY, with it, will
only send YOU to jail, and leave me free to testify against you...(And kick