It really doesn't matter
SORR Point
Everything, except you.
Makes no difference if the USA is rich or poor, the Dow going up or the Dow
going down.
Makes no difference if poeple live under Capitalism, or Socialism, or
Communism, or in a bark hut on a desert island.
It's all the same, and really does not matter.
What matters is how YOU handle it as an individual. What you choose about
your own individual Life .... no matter what the circumstances one may find
themself in.
Look, it really doesn't matter if the USA is run from Congress or not, is
run by big business lobbyists or not, is a Democracy, or a Theocracy, or a
Kingdom .... it's all the same deal.
Do any of you Philosophers really think Jefferson gives a shit about what
your Republic is like today? Or if his thoughts 200 years ago have any
impact today?
NO ... I say, NO.
Jefferson is a great man and revered today because he was a great man ... he
LIVED a good life, he was the master of HIS destiny, he made his own
choices, and he lived by them.
It really does not matter what you do with his Constitution today because it
is not his any more, it is all YOURS to do with it what you Wilt.
It really does not matter what caused this financial mess ... only that that
is the CURRENT SITUATION ..... and what are YOU individually going to do
about it!!!
That's it .... YOU are all that matters here, not what the intangible
*system* will do, not what Obama, or Paulson, or the Stock market, or GM
will do.
The only thing that really matters is how you choose to live your own Life
..... no matter what happens.
That's it in a nutshell folks , the rest is all illusion, distraction and
bullshit..... a stage upon which to live your Life and learn from experience
what it is that YOU personally have come here to experience and learn from.
Jefferson and Washington came here to learn from being Jefferson and
Washington and facing the challegnes they faced. If they had failed, YOU
would never have heard about them, and you wouldn;t be having the silly
conversations about Politics that happen today.
You'd still be hearing political discussions etc, but they would be
different ones, and YET YOU WOULD STILL BE GETTING THE EXPERIENCE YOU NEED
THIS LIFE.
That is why, it really doesn't matter what happens, who won the election,
what the DOW is, because everything is EXACTLY how it is supposed to be for
you you get what you needed to get from this life.
If you didn't need to be an Amercian, or a Brit, or an Aussie, you wouldn't
BE one! You;d be somewhere else, learning some other expereinces.
So, forget it and just enjoy your life, and LIVE it to the full ..... be
sure about your OWN CHOICES, and much much less about Bush's or Obama's ....
or GM's, or Barney Frank's , because whatever will be will be, and their
ain't nothing matters but what you decide for yourself in the moment, right
NOW, and every NOW.
Your life, Your choice ... that Matters, the rest really doesn't matter at
all. <smile>
So, remember this -- you've found the meaning to your life, when nothing
else matters to you but your Life and what you make of it. <smile>
That is NOT the same thing as Publius' and Fred's Self-Interest Model ....
that's different.
Nothing wrong in choosing to Live your life serving others, and giving of
aid, or teaching, or running a company, or a union, or a church ... or
chatting on a Philosophy Newsgroup.
Just do it ALL consciously and with awareness that that is YOUR FREE CHOICE
to make, always was and always will be.
But whatever everyone else is doing, or thinking or believing, or what is
happening around you, well THAT does not matter at all.
NOT at all!
As the Bible & other ancient texts says somewhere repeatedly, all that is
NOT Real shall pass away.
As Shakespere said " All the world's a stage"
You know what that means ........... it's a charade, none of it is real,
except what you choose for your Life whislst on this stage. YOU are real,
nothing else here is!
So go look into the mirror above the wash basin, and ask yourself: "Who am
I? Who do I want to BE?" Then simply start BEing it .... and the rest of
the Stage will co-operate with you 100%
When you finally work out that you have always had the freedom to be who you
really are, then you will understand that everyone else has exactly the same
freedom .... that's what is meant by Free Will.
And everytime you try to limit anothers freedom, your own will be
restricted. Everytime you try to take from another what is not yours, you
will lose something that is precious to you. There is no escape, so the best
thing to do is to realise asap that nothing really matters!!!
It's all an opportunity and a motivation to find out who you are, and learn
this from your own expereince. So hop to it, knowing what everyone else is
doing in the world is utterly irrelvant to you unless you BOTH agree that
there's something really important you both freely choose to do or be
together. <smile>
Happy daze ... and don't buy any wooden nickles today!!
cheers Sean
--
A SORR Point Memo
*Sean O'Reilly Report*
Fair and Balanced and Free
Immortalist
wrote:
> What doesn't matter?
>
> Everything, except you.
>
> Makes no difference if the USA is rich or poor, the Dow going up or the Dow
> going down.
>
> Makes no difference if poeple live under Capitalism, or Socialism, or
> Communism, or in a bark hut on a desert island.
>
> It's all the same, and really does not matter.
>
"What disturbs people's minds are not events but their judgements on
events..."
"Seek not that the things which happen should happen as you wish; but
wish the things which happen to be as they are, and you will have a
tranquil flow of life..."
"Men are not worried by things, but by their ideas about things. When
we meet difficulties, become anxious or troubled, let us not blame
others, but rather ourselves, that is: our idea about things ... Some
things are up to us and some are not up to us. Our opinions are up to
us, our impulses, desires, aversions, in-short whatever is our doing.
Our bodies are not up to us, nor our possessions, our reputations, or
our public offices, or that is, whatever is not of our own doing..."
--Epictetus (Roman Slave)
http://www.google.com/search?q=epictetus
bigfl...@gmail.com
wrote:
I resemble that remark!!!
I would add, from my experience, fulfilling the desire to have
positive impact on others can also disrupt ones own experience.Im not
talking here of feeding the starving, but enhancing the viable.
IT is easy to 'judge what you think they would appreciate' only to
have it blow up in your face.Interference is the same whether so
called + or -.
All my current financial circumstances have come about because of that
one mis--take. The realization ws worth every penny.
I used to wonder how great physicians didnt "catch the virus" when
working in dire situations ! Of course, they were not there for the
money !!!
Of course that is just another example of the learning curve.
Did you ever consider the world is 'suposed to be pearshaped "
hehehehe..
BOfL
bigfl...@gmail.com
all of us.
Of course there were not so many fitness clubs around back then, so
the ref to the body, needs to be partly modified.:-)
BOfL
SORR Point
<bigfl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I resemble that remark!!!
BOfL
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Sean:
Now that was one hell of a Peachy comment! <smile>
Point taken about viable impact ... and the Law of Non-Interference.
I re-learn that one almost every day! LOL
Glad to see the *penny* dropped re the Great Work done for those struggling
but positively keen health conscious individuals you helped out with their
over-weight ...... wallets. hehehehe
Aaaah shit happens when one needs a banker and/or a lawyer .... bound to not
work out as expected! ;-)
SORR Point
"Immortalist" <reanima...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Nov 20, 4:46 pm, "SORR Point" <Relax...@theBeach.DownUnder.org>
> wrote:
>> What doesn't matter?
>>
>> Everything, except you.
>>
>> Makes no difference if the USA is rich or poor, the Dow going up or the
>> Dow
>> going down.
>>
>> Makes no difference if poeple live under Capitalism, or Socialism, or
>> Communism, or in a bark hut on a desert island.
>>
>> It's all the same, and really does not matter.
>>
>
> "What disturbs people's minds are not events but their judgements on
> events..."
>
> "Seek not that the things which happen should happen as you wish; but
> wish the things which happen to be as they are, and you will have a
> tranquil flow of life..."
>
> "Men are not worried by things, but by their ideas about things. When
> we meet difficulties, become anxious or troubled, let us not blame
> others, but rather ourselves, that is: our idea about things ... Some
> things are up to us and some are not up to us. Our opinions are up to
> us, our impulses, desires, aversions, in-short whatever is our doing.
> Our bodies are not up to us, nor our possessions, our reputations, or
> our public offices, or that is, whatever is not of our own doing..."
> --Epictetus (Roman Slave)
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=epictetus
>
Yay, now ur talking Imm .. the Stoics, yes?
Sounded very Marcus Aurelius style .... not read Epictetus that i recall
specifically will look him up, thx
Stoic Philosophy
The Stoics were disciples of a Greek philosopher named Zeno. Stoic
philosophy is in many ways similar to the Taoist philosophy of China. ...
aha .... THE WAY ...... is my way ... as often as I can lift myself into
that space at least. :)
ZerkonXXXX
> _Epictetus was a great example of a
SLAVE!!
ZerkonXXXX
> What doesn't matter?
>
> Everything, except you.
.....
> So go look into the mirror .... and the rest of the Stage will co-
> operate with you 100%
The term narcissism means love of oneself, and refers to the set of
character traits concerned with self-admiration, self-centeredness and
self-regard. The name was chosen by Sigmund Freud, from the Greek myth of
Narcissus, who was doomed to fall in love with his own reflection in a
pool of water
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_(psychology)
ZerkonXXXX
> --Epictetus (Roman Slave)
A Universal Slave
SORR Point
"ZerkonXXXX" <Z...@erkonx.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.11...@erkonx.net...
Yes , that is what def of narcissism would be in it's simplest form. No
shortage of them on usenet LOL
The phrase of "Looking in one eyes in the mirror and asking oneself a
question or two" about what is important in one's life is NOT ... sheesh,
have another scotch, or something :)
Or go dancing even.