More proof America doesn't want Obamacare or the so-called "public option."
AZDuffman
legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of
it. Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! And imagine how much
more his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option"
was included in the senate bill.
Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
TruthSlave
The thorn laid road favors those who wear shoes.
which begs the moral question, what does one do for
those with no shoes? Do you allow them a chance of
at least starting the journey? Or do you dismiss
them with the thought "tough, they were never going
to make it anyway." This is about the future, dummy.
Michael Coburn
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
Rasmussen is a lying sack of Republican pig shit. And when, after
signing the Senate Bill into law, the Democrats bring a bill to the floor
of the Senate in July that does NOTHING but add the Public Option (as was
defined in the bill that passed the House) then the Republicans (and a
couple of assholes like LIEberman) are dead meat. They can filibuster
and defeat the bill while losing the elections. And that is the poll
that really counts.
--
"Senate rules don't trump the Constitution" -- http://GreaterVoice.org/60
Fred Weiss
> The thorn laid road favors those who wear shoes.
> which begs the moral question, what does one do for
> those with no shoes?
Don't make the road thornier.
Fred Weiss
Michael Gordge
> This is about the future, dummy.
Which by defintion is a moment that never exists, why live for
something that does not exist?
Just why ewe anti-human socialist fucking clowns can not see that ewe
are ethically and morally entitled / indeed obliged to live for your
own sake and now, is something I will never understand.
MG
AZDuffman
Keep denying it, but if people like the public option, what were all
the Town Hall protests for in August? Except for some astroturfing
support from unions, the overwhelming majority were against it.
This time next year the GOP will have the House and at least the
filibuster in the Senate. Then your boy Obama is finished as based
on his (scant) history he cannot accomplish anything by reaching
across party lines.
VOTE NETW/SARAH IN 2012!!!!!!
hal
<srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>
>http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>
It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler. The vast
majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>
>Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of
>it. Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! And imagine how much
>more his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option"
>was included in the senate bill.
>
>Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
>writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
>
>MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
It is for you.
John Galt
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
> <srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>>
>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>>
>
> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler.
And we've repeatedly refuted your nonsense, and noted that you've moved
on to labeling Gallup as right-wing as well.
Man up and admit that your political views are only held about about
15-20% of Americans, and that number is shrinking (That nasty right-wing
polling organization, Pew Research, did that survey.)
The vast
> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
Everyone wants a public option if its free. Who wouldn't? But, it's not
free, and as soon as cost is entered into the survey question, the vast
majority of people are AGAINST it.
JG
AZDuffman
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>
> >So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
> >legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
> >companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>
>
> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler. The vast
> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
It has been proven Rasmussen was most accurate in the 2008 election.
They are a nonpartisan polling orginization, which is why the left
labels them "right-wing." To you folks anyone who doesn't reprot what
you want is "right-wing."
>
> >Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of
> >it. Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! And imagine how much
> >more his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option"
> >was included in the senate bill.
>
> >Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
> >writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
>
> >MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
>
> It is for you.
This time next year we will have an elect-congress in control of the
GOP. Obamamania is over.
hal
<srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
>>
>> Rasmussen is a lying sack of Republican pig shit. =A0And when, after
>> signing the Senate Bill into law, the Democrats bring a bill to the floor
>> of the Senate in July that does NOTHING but add the Public Option (as was
>> defined in the bill that passed the House) then the Republicans (and a
>> couple of assholes like LIEberman) are dead meat. =A0They can filibuster
>> and defeat the bill while losing the elections. =A0And that is the poll
>> that really counts.
>
>
>Keep denying it, but if people like the public option, what were all
>the Town Hall protests for in August?
The were a very small, very annoying minority, bought and paid for by
the insurance industry. Hell, companies were even trucking in paid
protestors from out of the area. It was all staged, moron.
> Except for some astroturfing
>support from unions, the overwhelming majority were against it.
more lies.
>
>This time next year the GOP will have the House and at least the
>filibuster in the Senate. Then your boy Obama is finished as based
>on his (scant) history he cannot accomplish anything by reaching
>across party lines.
Only in your dreams, asshat.
>
>VOTE NETW/SARAH IN 2012!!!!!!
BWWWWWHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAhahahahahahahahahahaa !!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
hal
<srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 31, 9:02=A0am, hal wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>>
>> <srduffy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>> >legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>> >companies out of business? =A0THINK AGAIN:
>>
>> >http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/el...
>>
>> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
>> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler. =A0The vast
>> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>
>
>It has been proven Rasmussen was most accurate in the 2008 election.
>They are a nonpartisan polling orginization, which is why the left
>labels them "right-wing." To you folks anyone who doesn't reprot what
>you want is "right-wing."
More lies. That is a completely unsubstantiated claim made by lying
rightards.
>
>
>>
>> >Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of
>> >it. =A0Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! =A0And imagine how much
>> >more his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option"
>> >was included in the senate bill.
>>
>> >Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
>> >writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
>>
>> >MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
>>
>> It is for you.
>
>This time next year we will have an elect-congress in control of the
>GOP. Obamamania is over.
No, you are.
hal
wrote:
>hal wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>> <srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>>>
>>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>>>
>>
>> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
>> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler.
>
>And we've repeatedly refuted your nonsense, and noted that you've moved
>on to labeling Gallup as right-wing as well.
Gallup is right wing as well, moron.
>
>Man up and admit that your political views are only held about about
>15-20% of Americans, and that number is shrinking (That nasty right-wing
>polling organization, Pew Research, did that survey.)
"your political views"? And what is that exactly? You have no idea,
of course.
>
> The vast
>> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>
>Everyone wants a public option if its free. Who wouldn't? But, it's not
>free, and as soon as cost is entered into the survey question, the vast
>majority of people are AGAINST it.
Nobody ever said anything about free. More pig ignorant rightwing
lies. That's all you got.
John Galt
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:06 -0600, John Galt <kad...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> hal wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>>> <srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>>>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>>>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>>>>
>>> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
>>> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler.
>> And we've repeatedly refuted your nonsense, and noted that you've moved
>> on to labeling Gallup as right-wing as well.
>
> Gallup is right wing as well, moron.
Everyone who disagrees with you gets called "right wing". That's the
only criteria you use.
>
>> Man up and admit that your political views are only held about about
>> 15-20% of Americans, and that number is shrinking (That nasty right-wing
>> polling organization, Pew Research, did that survey.)
>
> "your political views"? And what is that exactly? You have no idea,
> of course.
OK, so you're not going to man up. Why am I not surprised?
>
>> The vast
>>> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>> Everyone wants a public option if its free. Who wouldn't? But, it's not
>> free, and as soon as cost is entered into the survey question, the vast
>> majority of people are AGAINST it.
>
> Nobody ever said anything about free.
Don't have to. If it's omitted from the question, there is no reason why
the answerer will assume that it's not. All you've asked is a rhetorical
question.
More pig ignorant rightwing
> lies. That's all you got.
Which is far more than you could ever hope to have.
JG
hal
wrote:
>hal wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:06 -0600, John Galt <kad...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hal wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>>>> <srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>>>>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>>>>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>>>>>
>>>> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
>>>> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler.
>>> And we've repeatedly refuted your nonsense, and noted that you've moved
>>> on to labeling Gallup as right-wing as well.
>>
>> Gallup is right wing as well, moron.
>
>Everyone who disagrees with you gets called "right wing". That's the
>only criteria you use.
>>
Look it up moron. It's very well known.
>>> Man up and admit that your political views are only held about about
>>> 15-20% of Americans, and that number is shrinking (That nasty right-wing
>>> polling organization, Pew Research, did that survey.)
>>
>> "your political views"? And what is that exactly? You have no idea,
>> of course.
>
>OK, so you're not going to man up. Why am I not surprised?
Because you're too stupid to understand so surprise never comes to
you. You just sit there and drool.
>>
>>> The vast
>>>> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>>> Everyone wants a public option if its free. Who wouldn't? But, it's not
>>> free, and as soon as cost is entered into the survey question, the vast
>>> majority of people are AGAINST it.
>>
>> Nobody ever said anything about free.
>
>Don't have to. If it's omitted from the question, there is no reason why
>the answerer will assume that it's not. All you've asked is a rhetorical
>question.
Huh?
Poetic Justice
> AZDuffman wrote:
>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>>
>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>>
>>
>>
>> Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of
>> it. Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! And imagine how much
>> more his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option"
>> was included in the senate bill.
>>
>> Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
>> writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
>>
>> MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
stop going to Mardi-gras in New Orleans >>OR<< when ON VACATION I
will drive around Nebraska
If *Nebraska and Louisiana and Connecticut* are going to take us to the
Cleaners in the Senate for hundreds of millions of dollars , under
forced tax and spend laws. What is to stop the other people from other
States from simply NOT spending by "free choice" their own money in
other States. Such as those with bribed Senators....
Suppose we all stop going to Mardi-gras in New Orleans, it just got
marked off my list of future vacations and I'll do an extra bit of work
to avoid doing business or have any business dealings with Louisiana.
I'll buy no more insurance or financial products from Connecticut.
The Same goes for Nebraska, when ON VACATION I will drive around
Nebraska, I'll plan my trips to visit their neighbors. I will buy as
little as I can that's made there and I will no longer do business with
Nebraska based businesses. Check your internet purchases and don't buy
from these three States. Help the Senators become the pariah of their
States for their lack of ethics.
We'll see if Maybe Louisiana and Nebraska will lose what they gained
by selling out the people in other States.
I know they've lost my vacation dollars instantly(the loss has begun)
when they vote for this Health care bill. Good luck to their residents
who will pay the price for their Senators greed and bribery.
I will with my every dollar spent....
*VOTE_AGAINST_THE_STATES_THAT_HAVE_TRIED_TO_STEAL_FROM_ME*
I hope the honest people move out of State or recall their Senators and
put them on trial for bribery and theft, because I see this as a
movement adopted by *TEA PARTY PEOPLE* to make their voice heard by the
States that are against freedom and constitutional authority.
GET READY FOR A HUGE STINK RAISED BY TEA PARTY MEMBERS.
And I see it happening starting this year...... New Orleans might as
well find a new industry and forget tourism, they just lost 50% of their
customers.
We need to make *Mary Landrieu, Ben Nelson and Chris Dodd* famous for
their decision to destroy their State's economy by bringing a National
black eye(Bribery) onto them and the resulting economic collapse due to
the other States full of honest people who believe in the Constitution
refusing to do business or visit those States.
--
AZDuffman
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:55:06 -0600, John Galt <kady...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >hal wrote:
> >> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
> >> <srduffy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
> >>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
> >>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>
>
> >> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
> >> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler.
>
> >And we've repeatedly refuted your nonsense, and noted that you've moved
> >on to labeling Gallup as right-wing as well.
>
> Gallup is right wing as well, moron.
>
>
>
> >Man up and admit that your political views are only held about about
> >15-20% of Americans, and that number is shrinking (That nasty right-wing
> >polling organization, Pew Research, did that survey.)
>
> "your political views"? And what is that exactly? You have no idea,
> of course.
By reading we have a pretty good idea "your political views" include"
A desire for higher taxes on everybody besides yourself
More government activism
Government running private companies out of busienss because the "make
a profit"
Control of prices on commodities youy buy no matter the cost of
production
Withdrawl of the military from all overseas missions
Am I getting warm?
>
> > The vast
> >> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>
> >Everyone wants a public option if its free. Who wouldn't? But, it's not
> >free, and as soon as cost is entered into the survey question, the vast
> >majority of people are AGAINST it.
>
> Nobody ever said anything about free. More pig ignorant rightwing
> lies. That's all you got.
>
>
>
>
>
> >JG
>
> >>> Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of
> >>> it. Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! And imagine how much
> >>> more his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option"
> >>> was included in the senate bill.
>
> >>> Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
> >>> writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
>
> >>> MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
>
> >> It is for you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
AZDuffman
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:49:18 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>
> >>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
>
> >> Rasmussen is a lying sack of Republican pig shit. =A0And when, after
> >> signing the Senate Bill into law, the Democrats bring a bill to the floor
> >> of the Senate in July that does NOTHING but add the Public Option (as was
> >> defined in the bill that passed the House) then the Republicans (and a
> >> couple of assholes like LIEberman) are dead meat. =A0They can filibuster
> >> and defeat the bill while losing the elections. =A0And that is the poll
> >> that really counts.
>
> >Keep denying it, but if people like the public option, what were all
> >the Town Hall protests for in August?
>
> The were a very small, very annoying minority, bought and paid for by
> the insurance industry. Hell, companies were even trucking in paid
> protestors from out of the area. It was all staged, moron.
Really? I never got my check! There is no proof of this being
"insurance industry backed" and in fact it wasn't. As a lefty you
assume all activists come from "rent-a-mob" like when the left is
agaisnt something. Well, what *really* has happened with the health
care town halls and Tea Party/Patriot Movement is that the left has
woken up the sleeping giant that is usualy the silent majority. This
is dangerous because while left wing protests are usually some
unemployed slackers showing up with not much better to do the Tea
Party Movement is people who spend their days at some sort of job, so
for every one that shows there ten more at work.
> > Except for some astroturfing
> >support from unions, the overwhelming majority were against it.
>
> more lies.
So, the unions stating they were sending people makes this a lie, how?
I admire you defending lefty talking points to the point of total
embarassment, though.
Michael Coburn
> hal wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:02:19 -0800 (PST), AZDuffman
>> <srduf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, think the GOP will "pay a price" for standing up to health care
>>> legislation that takes away freedom and is meant to drive private
>>> companies out of business? THINK AGAIN:
>>>
>>> http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/
election_2012/nebraska/election_2012_nebraska_senate
>>>
>>>
>> It been pointed out to you rightards repeatedly that Rasmussen is a
>> well known hard rightwing push poller and selective sampler.
>
> And we've repeatedly refuted your nonsense, and noted that you've moved
> on to labeling Gallup as right-wing as well.
Well I haven't labeled any pollster other than Rasmussen as rightarded.
But I think the evidence speaks for itself. IN poll after poll Rasmussen
shows Obama approval as negative while all the other pollsters show
positive. It isn't just a one time glitch and it is because Rasmussen
over samples the south while using "push" techniques in their questioning.
> Man up and admit that your political views are only held about about
> 15-20% of Americans, and that number is shrinking (That nasty right-wing
> polling organization, Pew Research, did that survey.)
Somewhat true. Moonbats are a minority and even liberals (that includes
moonbats and progressives) are outnumbered by conservatives in the USA.
But most conservatives are actually rational. Libertatians and
teabaggers are the moonbats on the right.
> The vast
>> majority of people nationwide are in favor of a public option.
>
> Everyone wants a public option if its free. Who wouldn't? But, it's not
> free, and as soon as cost is entered into the survey question, the vast
> majority of people are AGAINST it.
Actually, that claim is total horseshit:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/poll-public-split-on-health-
care-heavily-in-favor-of-public-option.php
"A key number is on support for the public option. The poll found that
53% are in favor and 43% against. When those who were initially against
it or were undecided were then asked about a more limited option that
would only be available to people who currently don't have insurance --
that is, a description of the public option that was passed in the House
bill -- 40% of them then approved. This caused the total approval for a
limited public option to rise up to 72%-28%."
>
>>> Ben Nelson was the deciding vote and his support tanked because of it.
>>> Clearly Ameicans do not want Obamacare! And imagine how much more
>>> his support would have fallen if the so-called "public option" was
>>> included in the senate bill.
>>>
>>> Hopefully at least one democrat-maybe Sen Liberman?-can read the
>>> writing on the wall and in the polls and stands to kill this bill.
>>>
>>> MAYBE IT IS NOT TOO LATE!
>>
>> It is for you.
>>
--
John Galt
Garden-variety "progressive". 15-20% of voters, max, and shrinking.
IOW, an "extremist". Of course, he doesn't want to be self-identified as
a progressive. With that track record, who would?
JG
TruthSlave
Doesn't exist? The future always exist, not one single future but the
infinity which always lies beyond.
TruthSlave
Or you could seek away to help those who can't help
themselves, those whose potential not even they have
discovered.
Testing times, test some more so than others, the
question is how fair is this? Is there anything
which can be done to redress this imbalance as the
dice is further loaded against their favor. All
this is in this question.