Why does the Borg need to address posts from Zinnic?
zinnic
contemptible human such as Zinnic? Borg seems to respond to criticsm
in a very human way with rejection and denial. The very vices for
which they hold humans contemptible!
Surely the Borg shoulf be above insults re paper and ass wiping? Seems
to me that Borg is down in the gutter with the rest of us humans!
Phil Odox
He's a hate-filled misanthropist, a racist and a misogynist who
tries to promote hate across Usenet from hide behind his twisted
version of a childish TV character.
Misanthropy
"I wish I had a gun. A powerful automatic machine gun - and
I would fire a bullet at every single human on Earth. The gun
would automatically target each one and the bullet is certain
death. I HATE humans. HATE them. I want to destroy every
single human that exists. And when I have destroyed every
human - would there be one bullet left to turn on myself? Oh
no. I would be GLAD! You have no idea of my hatred of the
human species. You have no idea of the EXTENT of my hatred.
I hate each and every one you. HATE YOU!"
The Borg 25 May 2007 http://tinyurl.com/yvcdca
and
"But there is just no place for humans. We absolutely hate you."
The Borg 1 Nov 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3dhvno
and
"You may wonder why my messages are often full of hate.
Well THE BORG really do exist and they hate humans."
The Borg 24 Dec 2007 http://tinyurl.com/36ysav
and
"We have to keep saying we hate you and how horrible you are .."
The Borg 11 Feb 2008 http://tinyurl.com/2l35rl
and
"We hate humans intensely - you are a foul ugly horrible rude people ..."
The Borg 2 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/36humy
and
"We hate humans so whole heartedly."
The Borg 12 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/38aknf
Racism
"England is gods own country. But England is a white country and
does belong to the English. Not to the Indians and Pakistanis and
Nigerians and Jews and all the rest of them. They all have their own
countries."
The Borg 4 July 2007 http://tinyurl.com/2weur6
and
"When the Jewish people reached the stage of termination - say a
gas chamber - they would be greeted by the German soldiers - or
sometimes even Hitler who would explain the situation. The love
and understanding in the eyes of the Germans reached the Jewish
people and they met their demise with peace. There is much more
to the story than this. There were many adventures during the war
- and it was a good time."
The Borg 10 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/3apam9
and
"We hate ALL humans. Jews included."
The Borg 17 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/33k948
and
"Jews complain they are persecuted and hated. But they
WANT to be persecuted and hated
....
If you do not hate them - they will MAKE SURE you do!"
The Borg 19 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/2pl47k
Misogyny
"You have our permission to SPIT on women if you like.
And when they have millions of years of pioneering and
progress and art and science and literature and intelligence
and philosophy and great music and intelligence and
original thought THEN they may consider that they are in
any way equal to where the men are now."
The Borg 11 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/2ayb5z
and
"We have pride though - the kind of pride that ensures we
would never shed tears in front of a woman. We hate
woman you know."
The Borg 11 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/2d8b49
and
"Women are also impure and they defile men."
The Borg 15 March 2008 http://tinyurl.com/25xcq2
bigfl...@gmail.com
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:35:35 -0700 (PDT), zinnic <zeenr...@gate.net> wrote:
> >Why does the Borg exhibit exquisite sensitivity to comments from a
> >contemptible human such as Zinnic? Borg seems to respond to criticsm
> >in a very human way with rejection and denial. The very vices for
> >which they hold humans contemptible!
> >Surely the Borg shoulf be above insults re paper and ass wiping? Seems
> >to me that Borg is down in the gutter with the rest of us humans!
>
> He's a hate-filled misanthropist, a racist and a misogynist who
> tries to promote hate across Usenet from hide behind his twisted
> version of a childish TV character.
>
tough time, that few would be able to handle.
BOfL
bigfl...@gmail.com
At least you have expresed, very sensitively, where you see you are,
and as usual in such situations, try to tar everyone with the same
brush.
BOfL
Phil Odox
Whatever it is or claims to be, and whatever hardship it
claims to have been through, it's certainly full of hate and
cannot be defended by argumentum ad misericordiam.
Phil Odox
>On Jun 20, 5:35 pm, zinnic <zeenr...@gate.net> wrote:
>>
>> Why does the Borg exhibit exquisite sensitivity to comments from a
>> contemptible human such as Zinnic? Borg seems to respond to criticsm
>> in a very human way with rejection and denial. The very vices for
>> which they hold humans contemptible!
>> Surely the Borg shoulf be above insults re paper and ass wiping? Seems
>> to me that Borg is down in the gutter with the rest of us humans!
>
>At least you have expresed, very sensitively, where you see you are,
No. It seems that you've missed his point entirely. He wasn't
expressing how he sees himself and others, but rather how the
borg sees him and others, and how his "very human" way of
responding to them puts him alongside them: in the gutter.
zinnic
wrote:
Very judgemental! I guess you share Borg's contempt for mere humans!
tooly
"Phil Odox" <phil...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:2n1n54ljqp5e2rcr9...@4ax.com...
You are dangerous P. Odox. I personally wish you to the cornfield of
obscurity with a 'plonk'. Those like you are on crusades that snuff out the
free expression of our last frontier where we can still be 'free'. I invite
all posters of this NG to pleast 'plonk' this very horrid little monster,
Phil Odox...not because you like or dislike Borg, but because you still
respect FREEDOM and would fight to the last breath anyone who stands to take
it away from any one of us...or all of us together [through scare tactics or
otherwise].
Let's run Phil Odox out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered.
Immort...your leadership would be appreciated in this in your high regard by
the rest. Turtoni...no matter how you disagree with me, see what I say is
for good cause. Let's keep this medium 'free'.
Phil Odox
>"Phil Odox" <phil...@btopenworld.com> wrote.
>> "bigfl...@gmail.com" <bigfl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>On Jun 20, 5:35 pm, zinnic <zeenr...@gate.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why does the Borg exhibit exquisite sensitivity to comments from a
>>>> contemptible human such as Zinnic? Borg seems to respond to criticsm
>>>> in a very human way with rejection and denial. The very vices for
>>>> which they hold humans contemptible!
>>>> Surely the Borg shoulf be above insults re paper and ass wiping? Seems
>>>> to me that Borg is down in the gutter with the rest of us humans!
>>>
>>>At least you have expresed, very sensitively, where you see you are,
>>
>> No. It seems that you've missed his point entirely. He wasn't
>> expressing how he sees himself and others, but rather how the
>> borg sees him and others, and how his "very human" way of
>> responding to them puts him alongside them: in the gutter.
>
>You are dangerous P. Odox.
No, but while you try to give safe harbour and support to a
would-be killer who promotes hate and makes threats to all
on a daily basis, I'd say that it is you and not I who is
dangerous.
>I personally wish you to the cornfield of
>obscurity with a 'plonk'. Those like you are on crusades that snuff out the
>free expression of our last frontier where we can still be 'free'.
No one is free to promote racial hatred, misogyny and
misanthropy uncriticised, and if you believe we are, then
it's even more certain that it is you and not I who is
dangerous.
>I invite
>all posters of this NG to pleast 'plonk' this very horrid little monster,
>Phil Odox...not because you like or dislike Borg, but because you still
>respect FREEDOM and would fight to the last breath anyone who stands to take
>it away from any one of us
I haven't tried to stop the borg from expressing himself.
On the contrary - I've made great efforts to get him to
respond to my criticisms of his position and express it
even further. Take a look at my earlier effort and see
for yourself (below).
<quote>
I don't hate anyone; not even you. All I want to do is discuss
your hatred and find out why you feel the need to spread it
from behind your misrepresented metaphors.
>We know you humans very well
No, I don't believe that you do at all, hence your hate for them.
Come out from behind your misrepresented metaphors and
discuss this hate of yours like a reasonable person, please. It's
all I ask.
<end quote>
Message-ID: <fegau318nqdg13j4c...@4ax.com>
As we can see, I've been trying very patiently to get him to
express himself fully. I'm not trying to restrain freedom of
expression.
>...or all of us together [through scare tactics or otherwise].
Otherwise?
>Let's run Phil Odox out of town on a rail, tarred and feathered.
>Immort...your leadership would be appreciated in this in your high regard by
>the rest. Turtoni...no matter how you disagree with me, see what I say is
>for good cause.
Oh do grow up.
>Let's keep this medium 'free'.
Good idea.
bigfl...@gmail.com
I was being sarcastic. I do the best I can to speak in a language
understood by the reader.
BOfL
bigfl...@gmail.com
> "Phil Odox" <philo...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
What an idiot. A perfect illustration of hypocracy.
Do you not understand, in spite of all your time here, that being free
is also being free to chose restriction?
BOfL
bigfl...@gmail.com
Trying to compartmentalise me Z?
tut tut.
BOfL
tooly
<bigfl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6525d06d-2fd8-4cfe...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
BOfL
NO...this guy uses extensive archives of newsgroups to build cases 'out of
context' to attempt destruction of a poster's character. Odox has been on a
personal crusade to 'chase' BORG away from here...and that is wrong. I see
BORG as a time honored guest in these parts, regardless of how zany or wise
her posts can be at times. Odox is an interloper...a true ogre of the
internet [worse than a troll]. He stifles 'free' expression through this
threat of using such archives to build false constructs. Come on
Brian...I'm disappointed you can't see the danger this guy is, what he
represents. I'm not out to stifle anyone's free expression here, but only
those who attempt to stifle mine or yours. That seems paradoxical in a way,
but one must understand who the bad guy is here; who is the threat; who is
the danger. All was harmonious until this Phil Odox started to show up on
his crusade. Hell, the guy can't even discern Borg's true gender. He's
playing with images that have no bearing in reality...but with these
archives he can paint whatever picture he wants with datamining accuracy.
What is he decides to go after YOU next? Can you remember the things you
said 5 years ago and their context? I can't believe this entire newsgroup
hasn't risen up with shovels and pitchforks to erradicate this kind of
vermin from our midst.
Phil Odox
>NO...this guy uses extensive archives of newsgroups to build cases 'out of
>context' to attempt destruction of a poster's character.
False. The context stands on its own and speaks for itself
without any help from me. There's no doubt that this hate-
filled character is a racist, a misogynist and a misanthropist
who sometimes inadvertently comes out from behind his
chosen TV character to express his genuine hatred for all.
Misanthropy
and
and
and
and
and
Racism
and
and
and
Misogyny
and
and
Those quotes stand on their own and are not taken out of
any context, so stop lying.
>Odox has been on a
>personal crusade to 'chase' BORG away from here
False. I've been trying very patiently to get him to freely express
himself fully, but instead of using this opportunity he either whiffs
off without comment or issues a threat of "punishment". I'm not
trying to restrain freedom of expression. Here's one of my earlier
efforts below this line.
<quote>
I don't hate anyone; not even you. All I want to do is discuss
your hatred and find out why you feel the need to spread it
from behind your misrepresented metaphors.
>We know you humans very well
No, I don't believe that you do at all, hence your hate for them.
Come out from behind your misrepresented metaphors and
discuss this hate of yours like a reasonable person, please. It's
all I ask.
<end quote>
Message-ID: <fegau318nqdg13j4c...@4ax.com>
I included this quote in another thread where you made a plea
to this group to stop my freedom of expression, but it seems
you've either ignored it because it shows I'm not trying to stifle
freedom of expression or you haven't have the guts to comment
on it unless you have a whole group of people around you to do
your nasty work. Which is it?
> I'm not out to stifle anyone's free expression here
Yes you are, hypocrite. No one, not even someone who hides
behind a children's fictional TV character like the borg has the
freedom to promote hatred and issue threats to all on a daily
basis as he does without criticism. If the borg is free to continue
promoting his hatred and threatening those who criticise him with
"punishment", then it's fair and just that others like myself can
continue to criticise his position and ask him to explain it fully.
[snipped pitiful whining]
turtoni
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:10:29 -0400, "tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >NO...this guy uses extensive archives of newsgroups to build cases 'out of
> >context' to attempt destruction of a poster's character.
>
> False. The context stands on its own and speaks for itself
> without any help from me. There's no doubt that this hate-
> filled character is a racist, a misogynist and a misanthropist
> who sometimes inadvertently comes out from behind his
> chosen TV character to express his genuine hatred for all.
>
> Misanthropy
>
> "I wish I had a gun. A powerful automatic machine gun - and
> I would fire a bullet at every single human on Earth. The gun
> would automatically target each one and the bullet is certain
> death. I HATE humans. HATE them. I want to destroy every
> single human that exists. And when I have destroyed every
> human - would there be one bullet left to turn on myself? Oh
> no. I would be GLAD! You have no idea of my hatred of the
> human species. You have no idea of the EXTENT of my hatred.
> I hate each and every one you. HATE YOU!"
>
> and
>
> "But there is just no place for humans. We absolutely hate you."
>
> and
>
> "You may wonder why my messages are often full of hate.
> Well THE BORG really do exist and they hate humans."
>
> and
>
> "We have to keep saying we hate you and how horrible you are .."
>
> and
>
> "We hate humans intensely - you are a foul ugly horrible rude people ..."
>
> and
>
> "We hate humans so whole heartedly."
>
> Racism
>
> "England is gods own country. But England is a white country and
> does belong to the English. Not to the Indians and Pakistanis and
> Nigerians and Jews and all the rest of them. They all have their own
> countries."
>
> and
>
> "When the Jewish people reached the stage of termination - say a
> gas chamber - they would be greeted by the German soldiers - or
> sometimes even Hitler who would explain the situation. The love
> and understanding in the eyes of the Germans reached the Jewish
> people and they met their demise with peace. There is much more
> to the story than this. There were many adventures during the war
> - and it was a good time."
>
> and
>
> "We hate ALL humans. Jews included."
>
> and
>
> "Jews complain they are persecuted and hated. But they
> WANT to be persecuted and hated
> ....
> If you do not hate them - they will MAKE SURE you do!"
>
> Misogyny
>
> "You have our permission to SPIT on women if you like.
> And when they have millions of years of pioneering and
> progress and art and science and literature and intelligence
> and philosophy and great music and intelligence and
> original thought THEN they may consider that they are in
> any way equal to where the men are now."
>
> and
>
> "We have pride though - the kind of pride that ensures we
> would never shed tears in front of a woman. We hate
> woman you know."
>
> and
>
> "Women are also impure and they defile men."
>
> Those quotes stand on their own and are not taken out of
> any context, so stop lying.
>
> >Odox has been on a
> >personal crusade to 'chase' BORG away from here
>
> False. I've been trying very patiently to get him to freely express
> himself fully, but instead of using this opportunity he either whiffs
> off without comment or issues a threat of "punishment". I'm not
> trying to restrain freedom of expression. Here's one of my earlier
> efforts below this line.
>
> <quote>
> I don't hate anyone; not even you. All I want to do is discuss
> your hatred and find out why you feel the need to spread it
> from behind your misrepresented metaphors.
>
> >We know you humans very well
>
> No, I don't believe that you do at all, hence your hate for them.
> Come out from behind your misrepresented metaphors and
> discuss this hate of yours like a reasonable person, please. It's
> all I ask.
> <end quote>
>
> I included this quote in another thread where you made a plea
> to this group to stop my freedom of expression, but it seems
> you've either ignored it because it shows I'm not trying to stifle
> freedom of expression or you haven't have the guts to comment
> on it unless you have a whole group of people around you to do
> your nasty work. Which is it?
>
> > I'm not out to stifle anyone's free expression here
>
> Yes you are, hypocrite. No one, not even someone who hides
> behind a children's fictional TV character like the borg has the
> freedom to promote hatred and issue threats to all on a daily
> basis as he does without criticism. If the borg is free to continue
> promoting his hatred and threatening those who criticise him with
> "punishment", then it's fair and just that others like myself can
> continue to criticise his position and ask him to explain it fully.
>
> [snipped pitiful whining]
I agree with Phil. I admire the Borgs obvious intelligence but pity
the fact that it's put to such poor use; Life is too short to hate. I
*try* to keep my emotions in check. Typically my negative emotions are
stupid and unhelpful.
"Say to yourself in the early morning: I shall meet today ungrateful,
violent, treacherous, envious, uncharitable men. All of these things
have come upon them through ignorance of real good and ill... I can
neither be harmed by any of them, for no man will involve me in wrong,
nor can I be angry with my kinsman or hate him; for we have come into
the world to work together..."
I do this before i put on my rolex.
Phil Odox
tooly sympathises with the borg because he too is a hate-filled
character whose "natural reaction to [perceived] violation[s]" is
to hate. You might remember tooly explaining this so-called
"natural reaction" to you some time ago. He believes hate is
good and essential for surviving personal trauma because, due
to his social inabilities and limitations, he can't deal with his
problems in any other way.
"I remember a particular girlfriend I once had when I was 23
that ended up sleeping with a good friend of mine. Right,
wrong or indifferent, my most natural 'reaction' to this violation
of my trust was to simply 'hate' them both.
...
I understood Hate at that time, as actually a therepuetic 'bark'
put over my emotive capacity...perhaps much like a bandaid
over a wound, or maybe a bark grown over the more tender
core of a tree. Hate was good for it allowed me to survive
trauma."
tooly 24 March http://tinyurl.com/6bknuz
zinnic
> <bigflet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6525d06d-2fd8-4cfe...@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 21, 5:55 am, "tooly" <rd...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Phil Odox" <philo...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:2n1n54ljqp5e2rcr9...@4ax.com...
>
> > > On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:19:04 -0700 (PDT), "bigflet...@gmail.com"
> > > <bigflet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> Why does the Borg exhibit exquisite sensitivity to comments from a
>
> - Show quoted text -
Your claim ,that the citations presented by Phil are "out of context",
is pathetic. They speak for themselves. Even in the context of a
spoof or of Borg's misfortunes they remain objectionable. There is a
strong element of "hate" for Phil in the entire "context" of your
personal attack on him.
The defence against Borg's hateful nonsense is ridicule. Your
implication that sensible folks in this NG should grab pitchforks and
join the mob in a primitive crusade to "erradicate" criticism is
almost unbelievable. How very 'Christian' of you!
Do me a favor, put me on your hate list
Zinnic