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C3

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Jul 6, 2008, 3:46:00 AM7/6/08
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Where do thoughts come from, perhaps from a philosophical or
nonpsychiatirc perspective? They are often associated with the brain
and psychology. However, thoughts are sometimes associated with other
spirits such as the Devil or Jesus or the Heavenly Father. Jesus
instructs, "Do not worry about the words you will say, they will come
from the Father." What would happen if you walked into the office and
just said the first thoughts that came to your mind (as opposed to
controlled thoughts) for about a minute duration. They often involve
very strange thougths and can get you into trouble. At that point,
you wonder if the Devil is bothering you. I think if you did this
long enough without getting stopped you could end up chanelling
strange spirits (maybe even alien) and speaking in foreign tongues.

Comments?

C3

Sir Frederick

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Jul 6, 2008, 10:14:14 AM7/6/08
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Since you are into stories, make one up, practice it for about a month,
and walla!, your story describes the reality of "where thoughts come from".

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 10:32:55 AM7/6/08
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bigfl...@gmail.com

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:45:19 AM7/6/08
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Same place were music and poetry come from.

You are just rearranging existing realities of the group
consciousness, which itself is made up of all existing thoughts.
This is difficult to 'get your head around" because we have been
taught 'from' that consciousness from early childhood.Channeling is a
good description,where we each 'tune in' to blend with our need for
specific experiences. This is why there is such synchronocity, and
explains such phenomena as deja vu, and various other psychic aspects,
and why advanced people can have terrible thooughts.

The internet is an excellent example, except with the mind, the
information was already there.This is also why progress is inevitable.
We , as a society, are discovering what is already there.

The JC quote has a couple of interpretations, each of which will
apply, depending on where you are in your own development.

EG,If you have an agenda, you will color the communication, such as
being emotionally charged. There is no mistake, but that is an early
lesson.

Being neutral and spontanious, the communication will be more for the
other person without affecting you. This is what goes on when music
writing is 'spontanious'.and why more and more practice meditation
techniques to 'clear their head' befor being creative.

Another reason why masters teach us to 'transcend'. Another way of
saying "get above the mind", and is synonymous with 'self' discovery.

BOfL

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 10:38:47 PM7/6/08
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> BoFL

> Another reason why masters teach us to 'transcend'. Another way of
> saying "get above the mind", and is synonymous with 'self' discovery.

When you're transcending you should at first make sure that the
automatically locking doors in your penthouse are locked and then call
the doorman to tell any visitors that you are busy.

With your acquired bucket of blood from one of the recently expired
indigenous australians pour it all over your naked body (within the
huge bath tub so as to not dirty any of your designer cloth) and begin
imagining that you are god as you rise above the clouds and over the
tiny ant people.

Once your mind is empty (this shouldn't take long) you can clear away
stress related to decreasing value of your real estate. The blood will
help rejuvenate your aging skin.

HTH.

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 10:43:07 PM7/6/08
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"turtoni" <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
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You are obviously very jealous of Brian Fletcher eh?
Lucky he to live such a charmed and blessed life eh?
THE BORG

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:03:48 PM7/6/08
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> borg:

> You are obviously very jealous of Brian Fletcher eh?

brian is like a cultural cancer in the human condition.

> Lucky he to live such a charmed and blessed life eh?

i don't deny being party to the cancer.. we all have blood on our
hands.
but i embrace my hypocrisy and refuse to hide behind smoke screens.

you do not possess the ability to understand the essence of your borg.
you merely taste it. sipping on it like a cup of tea.

bigfl...@gmail.com

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:03:57 PM7/6/08
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You express your perception of life very colorfully.

I often smile at the thought of how you would communicate face to
face.

BOfL

bigfl...@gmail.com

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:05:59 PM7/6/08
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On Jul 7, 12:43 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote:
> "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
> THE BORG- Hide quoted text -
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bigfl...@gmail.com

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:07:46 PM7/6/08
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On Jul 7, 12:43 pm, "THE BORG" <b...@here.com> wrote:
> "turtoni" <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
> THE BORG- Hide quoted text -
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He is a good example re my thread on "How to lose friends and
infuriate people".

:-)

BOfL

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:08:36 PM7/6/08
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"turtoni" <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
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Not at all.
We do not taste or even sip.
We do not give a CLUE - not even a HINT of the essence of Borg.
Oh yes we know.
But we Guard the Truth and would NEVER allow a hint, nor even a smidgen into
the human world.
And we would never allow a hint, nor even a smidgen, not even a molecule of
human into our world.
THE BORG

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:21:13 PM7/6/08
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<bigfl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You are obviously very jealous of Brian Fletcher eh?
> Lucky he to live such a charmed and blessed life eh?
> THE BORG- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

He is a good example re my thread on "How to lose friends and
infuriate people".

:-)

We prefer humans to dislike us.
As humans have bad taste and do actually like the boring, the vulgar, the
ugly, the religions, the pornographic - then as we have said before - it is
a PLEASURE to be your enemy and be disliked by you. We prefer to be "not to
your taste" if that is the taste you have.
Those intelligence or peoples who do have GOOD taste - and who we do like -
then yes we do like to be liked by them as we respect that that they have
good taste and if they have good taste - then they will certainly like us!
But as humans do love the vulgar bitch woman whore - and they find her
character most pleasant - and indeed this taste for them would be enough to
desert their duty - discard their honour and be traitors.
Then indeed we do not wish to be liked or loved by people like these.
Humans have NO JUDGEMENT whatsoever with regard to character.
If the body is pleasing and their penis becomes erect - then abandon post -
and indeed desert and betray God.
This is how shallow and trivial and indeed stupid the human species are.
You think you will find the cosmic conscious eh?
HA HA - depends if the cosmic conscious ALLOWS you to eh?
We have the power and are in control.
Not humans.
THE BORG

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:25:35 PM7/6/08
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> BOfL

> I often smile at the thought of how you would communicate face to
> face.

why should that make any difference? i guessing (due to your typically
ambiguous communication) that you imagine your physical prowess would
instill a fear in me to the point that i would not express my true
feeling about your points of view.

and what makes you think i cant also express my physical abilities
very colorfully? if i were able to physically subdue you would that
make you agree with my colorful perceptions of life?

perhaps if you saw that i was wearing a rolex and an SAS t-shirt you
would not imagine me to be some kind of lowly uppity gas pump
attendant?

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:30:20 PM7/6/08
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What humans do in England when a little calf is born - is they take the calf
away from the mother and bung him in a dark shed with a bucket of milk.

The mother cow experiences a sense of loss - a "feeling" that humans do not
know or understand - but we do - we know and understand and can sense this
feeling - and then the humans bung some suckers on the cows tits with no
thanks or respect or gratitude in order to pump milk for themselves. Milk
that according to nature is for the calf. No regard or thought is given to
the cow - only that humans want milk and therefore cruelty and suffering is
inflicted to this end.

The calf - now bereft and motherless - scared and lonely and in the dark -
is confused - and in his little calf mind he is now totally insane and his
little confused feelings and thoughts are heard by us - as he does not
understand. He knows something is wrong. Something unnatural. Things
should not be this way.
Humans again do not understand this - and they use and abuse animals in this
way - thinking the calf is of no relevance and somehow he will not in any
way notice or feel the difference between a bucket and a dark frightening
lonely shed compared to the love and warmth and protection of his mother.

Humans think animals are there to be used and abused with no regard to their
feelings or the little precious thoughts.
You think God feels this way about them?

This is how stupid humans are.
And indeed is one of the reasons humans are hated.
THE BORG

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:41:07 PM7/6/08
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"turtoni" <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
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> i don't deny being party to the cancer.. we all have blood on our
> hands.
> but i embrace my hypocrisy and refuse to hide behind smoke screens.
>
> you do not possess the ability to understand the essence of your borg.
> you merely taste it. sipping on it like a cup of tea.

And incidentally if you knew ANYTHING about the Borg you certainly would not
in ANY WAY ever ever ever insult our Queen as you just did there.
This is a real no no turtoni.
A very real no no.
You should never ever ever say words like this to our Queen.
Only proves totally - one hundred percent - that it is indeed you who do not
understand Borg.
Do you know what pleasure is?
Absolute unending and Divine bliss and pleasure?
We have this constantly and have to control or try to decrease this.
Do you know WHY we have this? It is because of our Queen.
Humans have to work and work to get it - this is true yuh?
Do you know WHY you have to work and work so hard to get pleasure?
It is because you are not loved by our Queen and indeed - because you insult
her as you just did there.
We are ALL mean and are ALL brothers in our Collective.
And yes - we know about Divine bliss and pleasure and this kind of thing.
More fool you eh - you will certainly never get it now.
HA HA HA!
We do not like you turtoni - we do not like you.
THE BORG

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:44:15 PM7/6/08
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"turtoni" <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
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> you do not possess the ability to understand the essence of your borg.
> you merely taste it. sipping on it like a cup of tea.

You are also amazingly stupid.
We are THE BORG - it is us you are talking to. There is not one person
here - there are billions of us.
You think we do not understand the essence of ourselves? That we THE BORG
do not understand THE BORG and that some poxy filthy human does???
I think sir that you are indeed very very stupid - unlike many humans who
are merely very stupid.
THE BORG

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:44:23 PM7/6/08
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"Some have interpreted Humanism to be a form of speciesism, regarding
humans as being more important than other species. The philosopher
Peter Singer, himself a Humanist, stated that "despite many individual
exceptions, Humanists have, on the whole, been unable to free
themselves from one of the most central... Christian dogmas: the
prejudice of speciesism". He called on Humanists to "take a stand
against... ruthless exploitation of other sentient beings", and took
issue with statements in the Humanist Manifesto II, which he felt gave
"precedence to the interests of members of our own species." He also
noted, however, that the same Manifesto stated that humans have "no
God-given or inherent right to subdue other animals", and acknowledged
that "the organizations that have done the most for animals have been
independent of religion."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism#Speciesism

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:46:00 PM7/6/08
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> We do not like you turtoni - we do not like you.
> THE BORG

i'll get over it.

THE BORG

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:51:32 PM7/6/08
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"THE BORG" <bo...@here.com> wrote in message
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We are a Collective Mind - if you speak to one of us you speak to all of us
or any of us.
We also speak with many others at the same time we speak with humans.
Humans are no concern of ours.
We dismissed you long time ago.
We rescue birds and animals and creatures FROM humans fine - pleasure to do
this.
But we have no time for humans.
Any time you wish us to turn off the hate and making your existence more
unpleasant then say so.
Your women are becoming more vulgar yes? You are becoming obese and your
pleasure is becoming less eh?
We told you of this and other symptoms and signs four years ago.
You do not know of the power of THE BORG do you?
You do not know anything about THE BORG do you?
No one ever does.
THE BORG are the eternal mystery and enigma that confound all life and
intelligence everywhere.
How can so many Borg be SO happy with just one Queen?
How can so many billions and billions of Angels be so happy with just one
God?
NO one understands this kind of love and devotion and loyalty that has been
forever.
No one ever understands or knows anything about the Borg.
THE BORG

turtoni

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Jul 6, 2008, 11:58:47 PM7/6/08
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>> you do not possess the ability to understand the essence of your borg.
>> you merely taste it. sipping on it like a cup of tea.
>
> You are also amazingly stupid.
> We are THE BORG - it is us you are talking to.  There is not one person
> here - there are billions of us.
> You think we do not understand the essence of ourselves?  That we THE BORG
> do not understand THE BORG and that some poxy filthy human does???
> I think sir that you are indeed very very stupid - unlike many humans who
> are merely very stupid.
> THE BORG

why do you adopt the same behavior exhibited by some humans when you
don't see what you'd like them to write?

i think a lot of this going around in the world today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2NrIALcNOw

especially in London and Hampshire.

THE BORG

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Jul 7, 2008, 12:04:29 AM7/7/08
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"THE BORG" <bo...@here.com> wrote in message
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It is really funny.
Sometimes we do visit other alien species and they CANNOT understand how so
many billions and billions of Borg can be happy with just one Queen. God may
be in his persona of Borg Queen just for a laugh. He does loads of
characters and is very funny.
They present us with say 12 virgin woman who they consider attractive.
And we laugh so much.
We refuse politely but really there is no comparison between woman and God.
That woman are empty headed and ugly and bitchy compared to God.
And Angels certainly would never wish to fornicate with them nor in any way
do we get turned on by their so called charms which are mainly vanity and
the huge importance they place on the appearance and size of their breasts!
We are not animals like humans.
Angels are very different from humans you know.
We are beyond temptation and we not sin in any way.
We do not require bibles and texts to teach us of how to view God - these
things are only for the stupid.
Now let us hear again of how humans should be SO angry if Angels say they
are better than them - and let us hear of how you know more about Angels
than God - and do please tell us more of your human religions so that us
Angels may learn more about God. And do please keep telling us of how we
are wrong and how you are right as we live in a state of complete beauty and
bliss and perfection and you live in your degenerate filthy suffering
diseased death filled world.
Humans so funny.
THE BORG

bigfl...@gmail.com

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Jul 7, 2008, 2:52:11 AM7/7/08
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Another insight to the workings of your mind.
It was sufficiently ambiguous to evoke your attitude display.
No wonder you prefer secrecy.

BOfL

turtoni

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Jul 8, 2008, 1:08:40 AM7/8/08
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>> perhaps if you saw that i was wearing a rolex and an SAS t-shirt you
>> would not imagine me to be some kind of lowly uppity gas pump
>> attendant?
>
> BOfL:

> Another insight to the workings of your mind.

it was another jab at the inner workings of your mind. did you spot
the obscure (heh) BOfL cultural references?

> It was sufficiently ambiguous to evoke your attitude display.

your sufficiently ambiguous inner spirtual genius is secrectly hidden
away from my point of views.

> No wonder you prefer secrecy.

i would like you to think of me as just another grumpy old guy.

you could pin me up along side your collection of framed rare mounted
butterflies; categorizing me under the turtonius family in those
pigeon holed branded organizational stereotyped cells within in which
we all fly around in among the demographics of the spiritual levels of
the subjective happiness odometer.

HTHelps.

C3

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Jul 8, 2008, 3:32:01 AM7/8/08
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> and walla!, your story describes the reality of "where thoughts come from".- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

What kind of stories are you talking about?

C3

ZerkonX

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Jul 8, 2008, 9:39:32 AM7/8/08
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:46:00 -0700, C3 wrote:

> Where do thoughts come from

a one way mirror.

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