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turtoni

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:36:46 AM7/24/08
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"Studies show that though many people participate in gambling as a
form of recreation or even as a means to gain an income, gambling,
like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry, can
become a psychologically addictive and harmful behavior in some
people. Reinforcement schedules may also make gamblers persist in
gambling even after repeated losses.

The Russian writer Dostoevsky (himself a problem gambler) portrays in
his novella The Gambler the psychological implications of gambling and
how gambling can affect gamblers. He also associates gambling and the
idea of "getting rich quick", suggesting that Russians may have a
particular affinity for gambling. Dostoevsky shows the effect of
betting money for the chance of gaining more in 19th-century Europe.
The association between Russians and gambling has fed legends of the
origins of Russian roulette."

Sir Frederick

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:03:38 AM7/24/08
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Solitaire in Windows is wicked enough for me.

Sometimes older people will find the simple gambling
games to be easily doable and give a sense of meaning.
Thus they may compulsively go to gambling joints and pay
good money. Maybe games on a computer could
satisfy, and be a lot cheaper.

turtoni

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:20:39 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 2:03 am, Sir Frederick <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:46 -0700 (PDT), turtoni <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote:
> >"Studies show that though many people participate in gambling as a
> >form of recreation or even as a means to gain an income, gambling,
> >like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry, can
> >become a psychologically addictive and harmful behavior in some
> >people. Reinforcement schedules may also make gamblers persist in
> >gambling even after repeated losses.
>
> >The Russian writer Dostoevsky (himself a problem gambler) portrays in
> >his novella The Gambler the psychological implications of gambling and
> >how gambling can affect gamblers. He also associates gambling and the
> >idea of "getting rich quick", suggesting that Russians may have a
> >particular affinity for gambling. Dostoevsky shows the effect of
> >betting money for the chance of gaining more in 19th-century Europe.
> >The association between Russians and gambling has fed legends of the
> >origins of Russian roulette."
>
> Solitaire in Windows is wicked enough for me.
>
heh. he said wicked.

>
> Sometimes older people will find the simple gambling
> games to be easily doable and give a sense of meaning.
> Thus they may compulsively go to gambling joints and pay
> good money. Maybe games on a computer could
> satisfy, and be a lot cheaper.

I'm gambler wiht my life everytime i take to the highway.
Used my NJ get out of jail card free a number fo times.

Then i arrive at the next box "building" to practice my stores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP2h16m8X1Y

Sir Frederick

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Jul 24, 2008, 2:27:28 AM7/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:20:39 -0700 (PDT), turtoni <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote:

>On Jul 24, 2:03 am, Sir Frederick <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:46 -0700 (PDT), turtoni <turt...@fastmail.net> wrote:
>> >"Studies show that though many people participate in gambling as a
>> >form of recreation or even as a means to gain an income, gambling,
>> >like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry, can
>> >become a psychologically addictive and harmful behavior in some
>> >people. Reinforcement schedules may also make gamblers persist in
>> >gambling even after repeated losses.
>>
>> >The Russian writer Dostoevsky (himself a problem gambler) portrays in
>> >his novella The Gambler the psychological implications of gambling and
>> >how gambling can affect gamblers. He also associates gambling and the
>> >idea of "getting rich quick", suggesting that Russians may have a
>> >particular affinity for gambling. Dostoevsky shows the effect of
>> >betting money for the chance of gaining more in 19th-century Europe.
>> >The association between Russians and gambling has fed legends of the
>> >origins of Russian roulette."
>>
>> Solitaire in Windows is wicked enough for me.
>>
>heh. he said wicked.

If one plays Windows Solitaire enough (as I have),
it becomes apparent that an algorithm is used to deal,
not randomness. That's really Wicked!

SolomonW

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Jul 24, 2008, 5:14:46 AM7/24/08
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In article <d48b940b-5764-4d1e-8b29-43d754898ee8
@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, tur...@fastmail.net says...

>
> "Studies show that though many people participate in gambling as a
> form of recreation or even as a means to gain an income, gambling,
> like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry, can
> become a psychologically addictive and harmful behavior in some
> people. Reinforcement schedules may also make gamblers persist in
> gambling even after repeated losses.
>

People lining up to get into a casino are queueing up to pay the
government tax.

ZerkonX

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Jul 24, 2008, 6:56:37 AM7/24/08
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:46 -0700, turtoni wrote:

> gambling,
> like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry,

========================================
There are certain people born with a natural tendency for impulsiveness.
Quite a number of these tend to lean towards gambling, the driving reason
often being adrenaline addiction.

When the central nervous system needs more stimulation, it seeks to find
bigger thrills to feed on.
........................
http://www.iula.org/when-adrenaline-addiction-takes-over-5816/
==========================================

IF many other things were to be 're-framed' with adrenaline addiction
being factored in... What would things, like culture, look like?

It is well known, at least among participants, that this is a most
attractive aspect of war:

"Adrenaline addiction is something Soldiers returning from
deployment are susceptible to, and is described as the need to
engage in excitement-seeking behavior, said Col. Robert Gifford
(Dr.), associate professor of psychiatry, Uniformed Services
University of Health Sciences."

bigfl...@gmail.com

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Jul 24, 2008, 10:09:17 AM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 8:56 pm, ZerkonX <Z...@X.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:46 -0700, turtoni wrote:
> > gambling,
> > like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry,
>
> ========================================
> There are certain people born with a natural tendency for impulsiveness.
> Quite a number of these tend to lean towards gambling, the driving reason
> often being adrenaline addiction.
>
> When the central nervous system needs more stimulation, it seeks to find
> bigger thrills to feed on.
> ........................http://www.iula.org/when-adrenaline-addiction-takes-over-5816/

> ==========================================
>
> IF many other things were to be 're-framed' with adrenaline addiction
> being factored in... What would things, like culture, look like?
>
> It is well known, at least among participants, that this is a most
> attractive aspect of war:
>
> "Adrenaline addiction is something Soldiers returning from
> deployment are susceptible to, and is described as the need to
> engage in excitement-seeking behavior, said Col. Robert Gifford
> (Dr.), associate professor of psychiatry, Uniformed Services
> University of Health Sciences."

"Every Time I Punch You,
I Get High"

BOfL

Langevinger66

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Jul 24, 2008, 1:50:57 PM7/24/08
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> BOfL- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -

love litle cubes with number one to six

turtoni

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Jul 24, 2008, 6:29:49 PM7/24/08
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On Jul 24, 6:56 am, ZerkonX <Z...@X.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:36:46 -0700, turtoni wrote:
> > gambling,
> > like any behavior which involves variation in brain chemistry,
>
> ========================================
> There are certain people born with a natural tendency for impulsiveness.
> Quite a number of these tend to lean towards gambling, the driving reason
> often being adrenaline addiction.
>
> When the central nervous system needs more stimulation, it seeks to find
> bigger thrills to feed on.
> ........................http://www.iula.org/when-adrenaline-addiction-takes-over-5816/

> ==========================================
>
> IF many other things were to be 're-framed' with adrenaline addiction
> being factored in... What would things, like culture, look like?
>
> It is well known, at least among participants, that this is a most
> attractive aspect of war:
>
> "Adrenaline addiction is something Soldiers returning from
> deployment are susceptible to, and is described as the need to
> engage in excitement-seeking behavior, said Col. Robert Gifford
> (Dr.), associate professor of psychiatry, Uniformed Services
> University of Health Sciences."

Exposing our points of view on Usenet likely generates an amount of
adrenaline.

tooly

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Jul 25, 2008, 7:47:59 AM7/25/08
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"turtoni" <tur...@fastmail.net> wrote in message
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When talking about gambling, perhaps the subject also needs to include
'risk' as a personality trait? The 'risk' factor might be the ingredient
that sparks the chemical reactions necessary to impede rational
thought...and to 'jump out of perfectly good airplanes', for example....or
gamble. We know there are personality types that seek 'risk' as a way of
excitement.

Hmm...Sir brings up a point about meaning. Excitement and meaning go hand
in hand....as the action is taking place anyway. If something is not so
meaningful, then the excitement won't be there. Which might promote some
putting the horse on backwards to the cart, seeking 'risk and excitement' as
avenues to their personal meaning so to say. Ergo, the 'gambling problem'
might be born. If so, like so many other psychological 'ills', gambling
obsession might be linked to lower self esteem where personal meaning might
be found in other, more healthy and benefcial, realms [but isn't].


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