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THE BORG COLLECTIVE
"C3" <C35...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Philosophically speaking.
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> C3
He is in love with Sir Fred.
All he does - all he is - is for Sir Fred and Sir Fred alone.
His messages are only for Sir Fred.
This is much the same way Angels perceive the Real God.
Maybe Sir Frederick is his God and he idolizes and worships Sir Fred and
dreams about him and hopes for everlasting love and bliss of a divine nature
if he should meet Sir Fred in the after life.
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
Art
Wow! How impressive! A Sir Fred cult! Something puzzles me though.
If members view deceit as the ultimate sin then what's with the "Sir"
stuff?
:)
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
"Art" <nu...@zilch.com> wrote in message
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Why is deceit the ultimate sin? Surely game play and fun and play acting
are not deceit?
His name of Sir Frederick Martin McNeil is a commanding one - would he have
the same presence on the group if his name was Sir Fluffydick Floppybot?
He states that he is misogynist (think this was the word) and that he does
not like humans.
And yet he spends much time entertaining humans in order to gain "love" from
humans.
Surely this is more the deceit than the use of the word "Sir"?
He continues with his constant affirmation that he does not understand
anything and yet he never takes any notice or listens to anyone who tries to
explain.
He prefers his constant stance which has been the same for some ten thousand
years rather than to either listen or learn - as this would mean change -
and this is something he could not deal with. To actually have a different
opinion? To learn something? To alter his view or opinion?
That'll be the day!!!
bigfl...@gmail.com
> "Art" <n...@zilch.com> wrote in message
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That day they will make him a Dame..:-)
And we all know "There Aint Nothing Like A Dame"
BOfL
Sir Frederick
The word is misanthropist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropist
"Misogynist" I am not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist
Both men and women are humans. I am an equal
opportunity affecter.
>and that he does
>not like humans.
>And yet he spends much time entertaining humans in order to gain "love" from
>humans.
>Surely this is more the deceit than the use of the word "Sir"?
I chose the use of "Sir" about 12 years ago. It enhanced my self esteem
and its use on Usenet was much more common then.
When I am ashamed of a post, or just wish to appear "distant"
I use the persona "Eliminativist Man".
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
"Sir Frederick" <mmcn...@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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> The word is misanthropist.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropist
> "Misogynist" I am not.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist
> Both men and women are humans. I am an equal
> opportunity affecter.
>
Ah yes - this was the word we were looking for.
You do not seem to dislike people though.
You entertain and amuse and interest them and you get good feedback.
Why do you entertain and amuse and interest people if you do not like them?
> I chose the use of "Sir" about 12 years ago. It enhanced my self esteem
> and its use on Usenet was much more common then.
> When I am ashamed of a post, or just wish to appear "distant"
> I use the persona "Eliminativist Man".
>
Very good. Most original in choices.
We never saw Sir as deceit - we thought you really were Sir - maybe some
distant English connection where you had in fact been Knighted for some work
in England or maybe invention. Especially with "engineering" to your
attributes. And then we mused over how wealthy you seem to be and this
seemed to fit the idea of being Sir due to some invention or whatever in
England - and you were then Knighted and you then moved to USA.
Oh. So you are not a proper "Sir" then?
Well we will continue to call you Sir - many do call men Sir - some call
teachers Sir and some even call their father Sir. At work is was once
common to call the boss Sir. And even on the phone a gentleman is often
referred to as Sir as indeed a woman may be referred to as Madam.
Oh dear - this is turning into another looooooon message. Why can we not be
brief?
Regards
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
Sir Frederick
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>"Sir Frederick" <mmcn...@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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>> The word is misanthropist.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misanthropist
>> "Misogynist" I am not.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist
>> Both men and women are humans. I am an equal
>> opportunity affecter.
>>
>Ah yes - this was the word we were looking for.
>You do not seem to dislike people though.
>You entertain and amuse and interest them and you get good feedback.
>Why do you entertain and amuse and interest people if you do not like them?
Much better than bricks, and slightly better than cockroaches,
as a context.
>
>> I chose the use of "Sir" about 12 years ago. It enhanced my self esteem
>> and its use on Usenet was much more common then.
>> When I am ashamed of a post, or just wish to appear "distant"
>> I use the persona "Eliminativist Man".
>>
>
>Very good. Most original in choices.
>We never saw Sir as deceit - we thought you really were Sir - maybe some
>distant English connection where you had in fact been Knighted for some work
>in England or maybe invention. Especially with "engineering" to your
>attributes. And then we mused over how wealthy you seem to be and this
>seemed to fit the idea of being Sir due to some invention or whatever in
>England - and you were then Knighted and you then moved to USA.
>Oh. So you are not a proper "Sir" then?
>Well we will continue to call you Sir - many do call men Sir - some call
>teachers Sir and some even call their father Sir. At work is was once
>common to call the boss Sir. And even on the phone a gentleman is often
>referred to as Sir as indeed a woman may be referred to as Madam.
I was raised "poor white trash", with an autistic cop for a father, a stupid insane lesbian
for a stepmother, and three sisters of various sorts, that hated me. I learned
the advantages of fiction, and how to stay out of jail. "Sir" is a fiction. Art is only the
third person to question the persona handle in the twelve years. He, like the
others must be "special".
And I never said deceit was a "sin", I ask that we be honest about our
deceit and self deceit, and that of "Mother Deceit Nature". "Deceit"
or from a programmatic POV : "indirection", can be quite useful and effective.
Art
<mmcn...@fuzzysys.com> wrote:
>Art is only the
>third person to question the persona handle in the twelve years.
I wan't questioning it. I was just having some fun with the silly idea
of a Sir Fred cult ... and sorta pulling your leg :)
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
> Much better than bricks, and slightly better than cockroaches,
> as a context.
Better than bricks?
We think humans much worse than bricks!
Better than cockroaches?
We do not know cockroaches well enough to judge.
We would prefer cup of tea to a human any day.
We would prefer birds to humans any day.
We love the rain and the wind and the snow - they endure and never let us
down as humans do.
As far as bricks go - you can compare as how we love our bed and warmth far
more than humans - they bring us comfort which humans never do.
So as misanthropy - we are more advanced than you.
Why did your sisters hate you? You seem quite a charming man if we may say.
Not sure I understand what you mean by deceit - same as I still not quite
understand what you mean by insanity.
You say that if I perceive blue as green this is how you term insanity - or
something along those lines which I did not understand - and when you
defined me as insane I got upset although maybe this was not quite what you
meant.
As for deceit - I personally view this as opposite to say integrity. That a
woman for example may use deceit upon a rich man - lying and saying how poor
she is when she is not poor at all in order to extract money. But using Sir
as a handle I would not say was deceit. You derive no benefit except maybe
a modicum or respect from those like me who thought it was genuine. I have
used Horse as a handle - but if you look at me you would say "Hey - not a
horse" but this would not be deceit.
I would say deceit is a sin in the example I have used above. But I would
not say was a sin with regard to using "Sir".
Self deceit I am not sure - this is case of "To thine own self be true -
then it follows as night does the day, you cannot then'st be false to any
man."
But how well can you ever know yourself?
You are probably misanthropist due to events in your childhood - but if you
had different parents and brothers and sisters and were loved and cared
for - you may find you would not be misanthropist at all. So is your
misanthropy a kind of self deceit - in that it had a cause - but in
different circumstances your integral self may not be this way.
If you have psychology and psychiatry (proper = not human) and learnt about
when misanthropy first started - you would find it would have cause. That
the fiction is the escapism - and that if you really did undergo a thorough
analysis - you would find that you do not know yourself on an integral basis
at all. But you are merely a result of the experiences and treatment you
have encountered during life. Once proper psychology and psychiatry is
administered - then you would know and understand yourself much better.
Kan
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
"THE BORG COLLECTIVE" <bo...@collective.com> wrote in message
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>> Much better than bricks, and slightly better than cockroaches,
>> as a context.
>
As regards cockroaches and insects - I am aware they do have an
intelligence.
That their bodies that humans see are not where they are in their mind or
intelligence.
As a child I was drawn toward ants - and for a few seconds I would watch
many of them and then somehow I was taken in my mind to their world.
There was no recollection of their world as it was too "alien" for any
recollection - their was no comparison or point of reference with the human
world.
But after the initial few seconds where my mind seemed to mind meld with
them so to speak - it would be four or so hours later that I found myself
back on Earth in the form of a child in the human world with no recollection
of where I had been in their intelligence and their world.
So there is something there in the insect world which humans have no idea of
at all.
Which is why I would say that I cannot judge insects.
I would say the same about cats, horses and other animals and creatures and
birds. That if you can as it were do a "mind meld" with them - they are
very different as to how perceived by humans. Humans judge purely by maths,
physics, memory, as they view this as intelligence which it is not. So they
disregards all other animals and creatures and view themselves as "superior"
in some way - which they are not. I do not know how I can do this "mind
meld" I would say it is because I am BORG and not human - and that I do have
telepathy with the BORG and have empath and sensory perception which enables
me to analyse and understand life far more than a human ever could.
It is absolutely amazing if you do disregard humans - and live within the
balance and harmony of the Universe and nature - that a bird could sound so
sweet - and the utmost and utter complete perfection of the timing of the
birdsong after a storm. A unique experience in this or any universe that
such harmony and delicate unawareness but complete and total perfection and
beauty that does exist on Earth and yet is disregarded by humans as they
cannot do physics!!!! ;)
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
Do you look at they sky much?
Do you have many clouds where you are?
It is an odd relationship you can have with the sky of Earth.
Sometimes awe inspiring and so beautiful - the appearance can fill you with
inspiration and absolute glory and wonder that such beauty does exist.
On ordinary days - ordinary skies.
Sometimes a lovely thought in your mind - and the sky is painted with wisps
of cirrus and nimbus stratus showing almost that they sky knows your
thoughts. Sometimes the lovely white edges and delicate painting outlining
clouds that give a sense of altruism. A whiteness born of random nature for
me to see and love and appreciate.
The beautiful skies filled with rain clouds - as wind sweeps the rain past
the window.
Earth can be such a beautiful place - and so much joy and inspiration and
happiness from the sky. Colours sometimes at dawn - the pinks the reds the
purple - and across the landscape the stark magnificence of first light -
and then days where clouds fall and the landscape is shrouded in beautiful
mists.
You should be friends with the sky - love the sky - learn how the sky can
help and how much the sky can give - and sometimes you can effect the sky
with eyes filled with love how the clouds become soft and the edges are
blended and so many colours the blues and greys and whites and dark greys
and wisps and it is endless endless just how much beauty there is.
THE BORG COLLECTIVE
Don Stockbauer
Woof! Woof!!! (imagines Borgie as a female dog) WOOF!!! WOOF!!
PANT!!!!
Don Stockbauer
> "Art" <n...@zilch.com> wrote in message
(Woof!)
Don Stockbauer
Mongrel dog soils actor's foot.
turtoni
>> Philosophically speaking.
>>
all over the place.
>
> "THE BORG COLLECTIVE"
> He is in love with Sir Fred.
> All he does - all he is - is for Sir Fred and Sir Fred alone.
> His messages are only for Sir Fred.
> This is much the same way Angels perceive the Real God.
> Maybe Sir Frederick is his God and he idolizes and worships Sir Fred and
> dreams about him and hopes for everlasting love and bliss of a divine nature
> if he should meet Sir Fred in the after life.
> THE BORG COLLECTIVE
>
THE BORG
"Don Stockbauer" <donsto...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Is this the kind of thing you say to God in Church when you pray?
Don Stockbauer
> "Don Stockbauer" <donstockba...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
I'm a pantheist. God and the Universe are identical. So I go to
church at my house. Wasting time on usenet.
Isn't war wonderful, Borgie? It takes two to wage it.
turtoni
> Philosophically speaking.