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#BeamMeUpScotty
Sep 6, 2017, 11:38:26 AM9/6/17
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On 09/06/2017 11:11 AM, Lee wrote:
>
> "You have people in this country for 20 years,
> they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully,
> they’ve gone to school ... they’re productive –
> now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?"
>
> Donald Trump, 2011.
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/1.810750
You have kids who have done great and their parents are drug addicts or
they sell some drugs and they are all Citizens of the U.S. and you put
the parents in prison and the kid that was doing great goes into the
child welfare system... Why is that any less an injustice?
If you can do that to a U.S. citizen and their family for violating the
law, why can't you deport an illegal alien for violating the law?
--
That's Karma
>
> "You have people in this country for 20 years,
> they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully,
> they’ve gone to school ... they’re productive –
> now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?"
>
> Donald Trump, 2011.
>
> http://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/1.810750
You have kids who have done great and their parents are drug addicts or
they sell some drugs and they are all Citizens of the U.S. and you put
the parents in prison and the kid that was doing great goes into the
child welfare system... Why is that any less an injustice?
If you can do that to a U.S. citizen and their family for violating the
law, why can't you deport an illegal alien for violating the law?
--
That's Karma
Rudy Canoza
Sep 6, 2017, 12:11:44 PM9/6/17
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On 9/6/2017 9:05 AM, Yak wrote:
Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
"compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 11:12:02 AM UTC-4, Lee wrote:
>> "You have people in this country for 20 years,
>> they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully,
>> they’ve gone to school ... they’re productive –
>> now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?"
>>
>> Donald Trump, 2011.
>>
>> http://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/1.810750
>
> So, if you were to come home from vacation one day to find a family of mexicans living in your house who had a dream of a better life we can all assume you won't call the police to have them removed. Or, at that point would the rule of law actually mean something to you?
>> "You have people in this country for 20 years,
>> they’ve done a great job, they’ve done wonderfully,
>> they’ve gone to school ... they’re productive –
>> now we’re supposed to send them out of the country?"
>>
>> Donald Trump, 2011.
>>
>> http://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/1.810750
>
Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
"compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
khPclc⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛dTzQnb
Sep 6, 2017, 12:28:12 PM9/6/17
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seeking shelter from the storm.
The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter (Live)
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kl6q_9qZOs>
Proverbs 19:17
Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord, and God will reward them
for what they have done.
Proverbs 14:31
Whoever oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever
is kind to the needy honors God.
nDoPCs⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛IzWlIb
Sep 6, 2017, 12:30:34 PM9/6/17
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Rudy Canoza
Sep 6, 2017, 1:33:23 PM9/6/17
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On 9/6/2017 10:23 AM, Homo Hummel lied:
Shut the fuck up, Homo Hummel. What I wrote is the absolute objective
truth.
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:11:42 PM UTC-4, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>> Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
>> much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
>> "compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
>> almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
>> There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
>
>
> Canoza, you wrote a lot of your *beliefs*
>> Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
>> much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
>> "compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
>> almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
>> There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
>
>
Shut the fuck up, Homo Hummel. What I wrote is the absolute objective
truth.
vPtbQZ⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛PbvdRa
Sep 6, 2017, 2:31:01 PM9/6/17
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Attila wrote on 9/6/2017 1:30 PM:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:30:21 -0400, nDoPCs?? ?????? ? ??????? ??IzWlIb
> <iav...@DRAFwP.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
>
Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
illegally from somewhere. You should deport yourself to wherever your
ancestors came from.
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:30:21 -0400, nDoPCs?? ?????? ? ??????? ??IzWlIb
> <iav...@DRAFwP.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <EoVrB.64137$Ek2....@fx08.iad> wrote:
>
>> Rudy Canoza wrote on 9/6/2017 12:11 PM:
>>> On 9/6/2017 9:05 AM, Yak wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 11:12:02 AM UTC-4, Lee wrote:
>>>>> "You have people in this country for 20 years,
>>>>> they�ve done a great job, they�ve done wonderfully,
>>>>> they�ve gone to school ... they�re productive �
>>>>> now we�re supposed to send them out of the country?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Donald Trump, 2011.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/1.810750
>>>>
>>>> So, if you were to come home from vacation one day to find a family of
>>>> mexicans living in your house who had a dream of a better life we can
>>>> all assume you won't call the police to have them removed. Or, at that
>>>> point would the rule of law actually mean something to you?
>>>
>>> Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
>>> much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
>>> "compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
>>> almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
>>> There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
>>
>>>
>>
>> Don't be a heartless bastard. They are not criminals. They are refugees
>> seeking shelter from the storm.
>>
>
> They are here illegally and should be deported upon identification.
>
>> Rudy Canoza wrote on 9/6/2017 12:11 PM:
>>> On 9/6/2017 9:05 AM, Yak wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 11:12:02 AM UTC-4, Lee wrote:
>>>>> "You have people in this country for 20 years,
>>>>> they�ve done a great job, they�ve done wonderfully,
>>>>> they�ve gone to school ... they�re productive �
>>>>> now we�re supposed to send them out of the country?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Donald Trump, 2011.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/1.810750
>>>>
>>>> So, if you were to come home from vacation one day to find a family of
>>>> mexicans living in your house who had a dream of a better life we can
>>>> all assume you won't call the police to have them removed. Or, at that
>>>> point would the rule of law actually mean something to you?
>>>
>>> Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
>>> much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
>>> "compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
>>> almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
>>> There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
>>
>>>
>>
>> Don't be a heartless bastard. They are not criminals. They are refugees
>> seeking shelter from the storm.
>>
>
>
Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
illegally from somewhere. You should deport yourself to wherever your
ancestors came from.
entCqs⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛RmZUeE
Sep 6, 2017, 2:36:20 PM9/6/17
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the storm.
Don't be a heartless bastard. Don't dash the dreams the dreamers dream.
Rudy Canoza
Sep 6, 2017, 3:16:39 PM9/6/17
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On 9/6/2017 11:56 AM, Yak wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 2:25:45 PM UTC-4, Thomas Senior wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:28:57 PM UTC-4, Yak wrote:
>>> Libertarianism is not far-right, let alone right-wing....
>>
>>
>> Yet it is.
>
> No, it isn't.
First of all, Homo Hummel is a fucking idiot. Second of all, he's a
fucking far-left extremist. Extremists on both sides always say that
libertarianism is part of the other extreme, and they're wrong about
that. Libertarianism doesn't fit *anywhere* on the conventional
political spectrum if you think of that spectrum as a line. It is
neither left nor right, nor is it somewhere in the middle of the line.
Even if you think of the political spectrum as a circle, with what we
think of as the "center" on one side and far left and far right
extremists coming together in totalitarianism 180 degrees on the other
side of the circle, libertarianism *still* doesn't fit anywhere on that
spectrum.
Libertarianism is the only genuinely principled political philosophy.
All the others profess to be based on principles, but they aren't - they
are *only* about power, and they intend to exercise that power *against*
the best interests of most people.
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 2:25:45 PM UTC-4, Thomas Senior wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:28:57 PM UTC-4, Yak wrote:
>>> Libertarianism is not far-right, let alone right-wing....
>>
>>
>> Yet it is.
>
> No, it isn't.
First of all, Homo Hummel is a fucking idiot. Second of all, he's a
fucking far-left extremist. Extremists on both sides always say that
libertarianism is part of the other extreme, and they're wrong about
that. Libertarianism doesn't fit *anywhere* on the conventional
political spectrum if you think of that spectrum as a line. It is
neither left nor right, nor is it somewhere in the middle of the line.
Even if you think of the political spectrum as a circle, with what we
think of as the "center" on one side and far left and far right
extremists coming together in totalitarianism 180 degrees on the other
side of the circle, libertarianism *still* doesn't fit anywhere on that
spectrum.
Libertarianism is the only genuinely principled political philosophy.
All the others profess to be based on principles, but they aren't - they
are *only* about power, and they intend to exercise that power *against*
the best interests of most people.
Gunner Asch
Sep 10, 2017, 4:19:18 PM9/10/17
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 14:30:51 -0400, vPtbQZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??PbvdRa
<GPg...@HATfyg.com> wrote:
>>
>> They are here illegally and should be deported upon identification.
>>
>
>Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
>illegally from somewhere.
Actually thats a lie. But then...we have come to expect that from
<GPg...@HATfyg.com> wrote:
>>
>> They are here illegally and should be deported upon identification.
>>
>
>Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
>illegally from somewhere.
you.
Over and over and over and over and over again.
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Gunner Asch
Sep 10, 2017, 4:20:03 PM9/10/17
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 14:36:10 -0400, entCqs?? ?????? ? ??????? ??RmZUeE
<LuK...@xlKfGD.com> wrote:
>>
>> Shut the fuck up, Homo Hummel. What I wrote is the absolute objective
>> truth.
>
>
>The dreamers are not criminals. They are refugees seeking shelter from
>the storm.
Wile E. Coyote
Sep 11, 2017, 12:51:33 PM9/11/17
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UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam1BidmRSYQ==?= <GPg...@HATfyg.com> wrote in
news:C9XrB.37884$WI2....@fx38.iad:
> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
> illegally from somewhere.
I can trace my maternal grandmother's family back past the revolution.
Maternal grandfather's and father's families turn of the century. Ellis
Island. All came following the established laws at the time.
--
It's time for the students to step up their game and kill people like
Coulter.
Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> April 25, 2017
UTF-8?B?772O772B772C772FIOKGkuKam1BidmRSYQ==?= <GPg...@HATfyg.com> wrote in
news:C9XrB.37884$WI2....@fx38.iad:
> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
> illegally from somewhere.
Maternal grandfather's and father's families turn of the century. Ellis
Island. All came following the established laws at the time.
--
It's time for the students to step up their game and kill people like
Coulter.
Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com> April 25, 2017
Just Wondering
Sep 11, 2017, 1:01:15 PM9/11/17
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On 9/6/2017 12:30 PM, vPtbQZ⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛PbvdRa wrote:
>
> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors
> came here illegally from somewhere.
>
Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>
> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors
> came here illegally from somewhere.
>
to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration
to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
hDjWs⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛XkmDE
Sep 11, 2017, 3:28:53 PM9/11/17
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had done before.
If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you shouldn't be so
mad when your neighbour's son knocked up your daughter.
Why don't you pat the Dreamers on the back and shake their hands, call
them 'Latter Day Pioneers/Pilgrims', and tell them that your ancestors
took the same courageous voyage to come here?
Gunner Asch
Sep 11, 2017, 4:14:09 PM9/11/17
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 15:28:46 -0400, hDjWs?? ?????? ? ??????? ??XkmDE
<gK...@Qfzte.com> wrote:
>Just Wondering wrote on 9/11/2017 1:01 PM:
>> On 9/6/2017 12:30 PM, vPtbQZ?? ?????? ? ??????? ??PbvdRa
<gK...@Qfzte.com> wrote:
>Just Wondering wrote on 9/11/2017 1:01 PM:
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
>>> illegally from somewhere.
>>>
>> Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>> to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
>>
>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration
>> to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
>
>
>So you are telling us that the Dreamers are doing what your ancestors
>had done before.
>
>If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you shouldn't be so
>mad when your neighbour's son knocked up your daughter.
>
>Why don't you pat the Dreamers on the back and shake their hands, call
>them 'Latter Day Pioneers/Pilgrims', and tell them that your ancestors
>took the same courageous voyage to come here?
So because slavery was once legal..its ok to ignore the laws and take
>>>
>>> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
>>> illegally from somewhere.
>>>
>> Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>> to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
>>
>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration
>> to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
>
>
>So you are telling us that the Dreamers are doing what your ancestors
>had done before.
>
>If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you shouldn't be so
>mad when your neighbour's son knocked up your daughter.
>
>Why don't you pat the Dreamers on the back and shake their hands, call
>them 'Latter Day Pioneers/Pilgrims', and tell them that your ancestors
>took the same courageous voyage to come here?
slaves again?
Boy howdy.....are you in for a very..very rough time pulling that
plow......
Byker
Sep 11, 2017, 5:36:32 PM9/11/17
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"Just Wondering" wrote in message news:rjztB.80907$sH2....@fx03.iad...
This one covered all nationalities, including Irish. It was a federal law
that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any
country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already
living in the United States as of the 1890 census:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
>
> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration to the USA in
> the 19th century illegal.
https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=47
> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration to the USA in
> the 19th century illegal.
This one covered all nationalities, including Irish. It was a federal law
that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any
country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already
living in the United States as of the 1890 census:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
gUcxL⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛eRMhi
Sep 11, 2017, 6:17:49 PM9/11/17
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Attila wrote on 9/6/2017 3:37 PM:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 14:36:10 -0400, entCqs?? ?????? ? ??????? ??RmZUeE
> <LuK...@xlKfGD.com> in alt.atheism with message-id
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 14:36:10 -0400, entCqs?? ?????? ? ??????? ??RmZUeE
> <BeXrB.51101$fF2....@fx17.iad> wrote:
>
>> Rudy Canoza wrote on 9/6/2017 1:33 PM:
>>> On 9/6/2017 10:23 AM, Homo Hummel lied:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:11:42 PM UTC-4, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
>>>>> much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
>>>>> "compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
>>>>> almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
>>>>> There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
>>>> Canoza, you wrote a lot of your *beliefs*
>>>
>>> Shut the fuck up, Homo Hummel. What I wrote is the absolute objective
>>> truth.
>>
>>
>> The dreamers are not criminals. They are refugees seeking shelter from
>> the storm.
>>
>
> They are here in violation of American law and are subject to
>
>> Rudy Canoza wrote on 9/6/2017 1:33 PM:
>>> On 9/6/2017 10:23 AM, Homo Hummel lied:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 12:11:42 PM UTC-4, Rudy Canoza wrote:
>>>>> Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how
>>>>> much they add to the economy, or about "dreams" and how we should be
>>>>> "compassionate", but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are
>>>>> almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That's all it is.
>>>>> There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that.
>>>> Canoza, you wrote a lot of your *beliefs*
>>>
>>> Shut the fuck up, Homo Hummel. What I wrote is the absolute objective
>>> truth.
>>
>>
>> The dreamers are not criminals. They are refugees seeking shelter from
>> the storm.
>>
>
> deportation just as anyone who is here illegally is subject to the
> same.
>
The Dreamers are modern day pioneers. They are emulating what your early
pioneers were doing. Your early pioneers and pilgrims also came here
uninvited.
The Dreamers are here to be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
Gunner Asch
Sep 11, 2017, 7:05:34 PM9/11/17
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:17:42 -0400, gUcxL?? ?????? ? ??????? ??eRMhi
<qn...@whiLt.com> wrote:
>>
>> They are here in violation of American law and are subject to
>> deportation just as anyone who is here illegally is subject to the
>> same.
>>
>
>The Dreamers are modern day pioneers. They are emulating what your early
>pioneers were doing. Your early pioneers and pilgrims also came here
>uninvited.
What part of "they are here in violation of American Law and subject
<qn...@whiLt.com> wrote:
>>
>> They are here in violation of American law and are subject to
>> deportation just as anyone who is here illegally is subject to the
>> same.
>>
>
>The Dreamers are modern day pioneers. They are emulating what your early
>pioneers were doing. Your early pioneers and pilgrims also came here
>uninvited.
to deportation just as anyone who is ALSO here illegally is subject to
the same" are you having difficulty in understanding.
At one time was legal for your mother to be a hooker without any
registration, licensing, taxes, cumshaw or bribes.
Then it wasnt.
So you are saying your mom can go back out on the street again,
because you dont believe in obeying the laws.
Ayup..typical Leftist.
Oh..and your mom wasnt worth a shit as a whore either.
Despite her having worked as a Canadian whore for most of her life.
Just Wondering
Sep 11, 2017, 8:22:26 PM9/11/17
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On 9/11/2017 Ｍｉｇｈｔ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
> Just Wondering wrotePM:
I didn't even mention some unidentified bullshit "dreamer".
I asked you a couple of straightforward questions directly
addressing your claim of illegal immigration. You don't
answer the questions because your original statement is bullshit.
> If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you
> shouldn't be so mad when your neighbour's son knocked up
> your daughter.
>
Well I didn't, and I raised my daughters better than that.
But that's irrelevant to whether the Mohegans, or the Abenaki,
or any other of the several indigenous people in the 16th and
17th centuries A.D. who inhabited what is now New England,
had any law making immigration to those lands illegal. You
imply that they had immigration laws without any evidence.
From all accounts I've read the natives welcomed the Pilgrams
and even helped them survive a bleak first winter. That sounds
a great deal like their immigration was legal, which proves
your claim is bullshit.
> Why don't you pat the Dreamers on the back and shake their hands,
> call them 'Latter Day Pioneers/Pilgrims', and tell them that
> your ancestors took the same courageous voyage to come here?
>
The USA is a land of law. If people immigrate legally I
welcome them. If someone broke into my home and refused
to leave claiming squatters' rights or some other bullshit,
I would not be so accommodating - and neither would you.
BTW, being smuggled in by coyotes is not a courage voyage.
Now go troll somewhere else.
> Just Wondering wrotePM:
>> On 9/6/2017 Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ Wａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
>>>
>>> Unless you are native American Indian, your
>>> ancestors came here illegally from somewhere.
>>>
>> Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>> to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
>>
>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese
>> immigration to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
>
> So you are telling us that the Dreamers are doing what
> your ancestors had done before.
>
Are you really that stupid? I'm not telling you anything.
>>>
>>> Unless you are native American Indian, your
>>> ancestors came here illegally from somewhere.
>>>
>> Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>> to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
>>
>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese
>> immigration to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
>
> So you are telling us that the Dreamers are doing what
> your ancestors had done before.
>
I didn't even mention some unidentified bullshit "dreamer".
I asked you a couple of straightforward questions directly
addressing your claim of illegal immigration. You don't
answer the questions because your original statement is bullshit.
> If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you
> shouldn't be so mad when your neighbour's son knocked up
> your daughter.
>
But that's irrelevant to whether the Mohegans, or the Abenaki,
or any other of the several indigenous people in the 16th and
17th centuries A.D. who inhabited what is now New England,
had any law making immigration to those lands illegal. You
imply that they had immigration laws without any evidence.
From all accounts I've read the natives welcomed the Pilgrams
and even helped them survive a bleak first winter. That sounds
a great deal like their immigration was legal, which proves
your claim is bullshit.
> Why don't you pat the Dreamers on the back and shake their hands,
> call them 'Latter Day Pioneers/Pilgrims', and tell them that
> your ancestors took the same courageous voyage to come here?
>
welcome them. If someone broke into my home and refused
to leave claiming squatters' rights or some other bullshit,
I would not be so accommodating - and neither would you.
BTW, being smuggled in by coyotes is not a courage voyage.
Now go troll somewhere else.
Hale Hardy
Sep 11, 2017, 8:29:04 PM9/11/17
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>> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
>> illegally from somewhere.
>
> I can trace my maternal grandmother's family back past the revolution.
> Maternal grandfather's and father's families turn of the century. Ellis
> Island. All came following the established laws at the time.
>
There were no immigration laws until the mid-1920s.
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>> Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
>> illegally from somewhere.
>
> I can trace my maternal grandmother's family back past the revolution.
> Maternal grandfather's and father's families turn of the century. Ellis
> Island. All came following the established laws at the time.
>
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There is no one dumber than a Trump Supporter
Just Wondering
Sep 11, 2017, 8:29:43 PM9/11/17
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On 9/11/2017 3:36 PM, Byker wrote:
> "Just Wondering" wrote in message news:rjztB.80907$sH2....@fx03.iad...
>>
>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration to the
>> USA in the 19th century illegal.
>
> https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=47
>
So the law restricted legal immigration but did not make all
> "Just Wondering" wrote in message news:rjztB.80907$sH2....@fx03.iad...
>>
>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese immigration to the
>> USA in the 19th century illegal.
>
> https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=47
>
Irish and Chinese immigration illegal. Since it was passed
in 1882 it did not make any immigration before that year illegal.
> This one covered all nationalities, including Irish. It was a federal law
> that limited the annual number of immigrants who could be admitted from any
> country to 2% of the number of people from that country who were already
> living in the United States as of the 1890 census:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
>
in the 19th century illegal?
But you're ignoring the bigger picture. The dumbass Might Wannabe
claims "Unless you are native American Indian, your ancestors came here
illegally from somewhere." My questions responded to his bullshit
claim. It's not nice of you to remove that context.
ErwwM⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛qkfwr
Sep 11, 2017, 8:43:52 PM9/11/17
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ancestors in, but you want to lock the door shut behind you by making
laws to criminalizing those modern day pioneers. Why?
iEnDb⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛cGATm
Sep 11, 2017, 9:16:22 PM9/11/17
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want to beat back everybody following behind you with your oar.
Jackie DeShannon - Put A Little Love in Your Heart
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMj7UcjPZ0U>
THE YOUNGBLOODS - GET TOGETHER
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34YUI3CmckA>
Scout
Sep 11, 2017, 10:19:32 PM9/11/17
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"iEnDb?‹ Mighty + Wannabe ›?cGATm" <bb...@vAGHq.com> wrote in message
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decided he likes my lifeboat better than the one he was in.
If he's not suppose to be in my lifeboat then I have every right to throw
him back into his own lifeboat.
vuBZY⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛ECaQk
Sep 11, 2017, 10:40:06 PM9/11/17
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There is no such thing as 'my lifeboat', 'your lifeboat', or 'his
lifeboat'.
The natives welcomed your ancestors into this lifeboat.
Maybe you should listen to this song:
The Guess Who - Share The Land
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQJ4toj-JY>
Scout
Sep 11, 2017, 11:49:30 PM9/11/17
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"vuBZY⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛ECaQk" <Dk...@GyPFY.com> wrote in message
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You can't just arbitrarily decide you want to be in another one.
Meanwhile, it's our country, not theirs and we've already set the rules on
what you need to do to get into our country.
> The natives welcomed your ancestors into this lifeboat.
Lessons from history.....should we repeat their mistakes?
>
> Maybe you should listen to this song:
>
> The Guess Who - Share The Land
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQJ4toj-JY>
>
> Jackie DeShannon - Put A Little Love in Your Heart
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMj7UcjPZ0U>
>
> THE YOUNGBLOODS - GET TOGETHER
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34YUI3CmckA>
and then you can tell that our rules are too hard.
Oh, and just because I'm willing to share, with a little love and would like
to get together...does NOT mean you get to take whatever you want and abuse
our compassion.
We have set the rules.....if you can't abide by them, then we have no use
for you. We already have enough criminals in America, thank you very much.
asvof⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛yCzJy
Sep 12, 2017, 1:01:04 AM9/12/17
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want to be assimilated.
>>
>> Maybe you should listen to this song:
>>
>> The Guess Who - Share The Land
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLQJ4toj-JY>
>>
>> Jackie DeShannon - Put A Little Love in Your Heart
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMj7UcjPZ0U>
>>
>> THE YOUNGBLOODS - GET TOGETHER
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34YUI3CmckA>
>
> Fine..... let's talk about what I would need to do to immigrate to
> Mexico, and then you can tell that our rules are too hard.
>
> Oh, and just because I'm willing to share, with a little love and would
> like to get together...does NOT mean you get to take whatever you want
> and abuse our compassion.
>
> We have set the rules.....if you can't abide by them, then we have no
> use for you. We already have enough criminals in America, thank you very
> much.
law-enforcement to tackle your criminal problem.
Do what the Roman Empire did. Recruit the DACA kids into your military
to fight your foreign wars.
Just Wondering
Sep 12, 2017, 2:05:51 AM9/12/17
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Ｍｉｇｈｔ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
> Just Wondering wrote on 9/11/2017 8:22 PM:
>> On 9/11/2017 Ｍｉｇｈｔ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
>>> Just Wondering wrotePM:
>>>> On 9/6/2017 Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ Wａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are native American Indian, your
>>>>> ancestors came here illegally from somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>> Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>>>> to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
>>>>
>>>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese
>>>> immigration to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
>>>
>>> So you are telling us that the Dreamers are doing what your ancestors
>>> had done before.
>>>
>> Are you really that stupid? I'm not telling you anything.
>> I didn't even mention some unidentified bullshit "dreamer".
>> I asked you a couple of straightforward questions directly
>> addressing your claim of illegal immigration. You don't
>> answer the questions because your original statement is bullshit.
>>
>>> If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you
>>> shouldn't beso mad when your neighbour's son knocked up
> Just Wondering wrote on 9/11/2017 8:22 PM:
>> On 9/11/2017 Ｍｉｇｈｔ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
>>> Just Wondering wrotePM:
>>>> On 9/6/2017 Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ Wａｎｎａｂｅ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless you are native American Indian, your
>>>>> ancestors came here illegally from somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>> Please quote the law that made it illegal for the Pilgrims
>>>> to come to what is now Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620.
>>>>
>>>> Please quote the law that made Irish and Chinese
>>>> immigration to the USA in the 19th century illegal.
>>>
>>> So you are telling us that the Dreamers are doing what your ancestors
>>> had done before.
>>>
>> Are you really that stupid? I'm not telling you anything.
>> I didn't even mention some unidentified bullshit "dreamer".
>> I asked you a couple of straightforward questions directly
>> addressing your claim of illegal immigration. You don't
>> answer the questions because your original statement is bullshit.
>>
>>> If you had been sowing wild oats in your youth, then you
>>> your daughter.
>>>
>> Well I didn't, and I raised my daughters better than that.
>> But that's irrelevant to whether the Mohegans, or the Abenaki,
>> or any other of the several indigenous people in the 16th and
>> 17th centuries A.D. who inhabited what is now New England,
>> had any law making immigration to those lands illegal. You
>> imply that they had immigration laws without any evidence.
>> From all accounts I've read the natives welcomed the Pilgrams
>> and even helped them survive a bleak first winter. That sounds
>> a great deal like their immigration was legal, which proves
>> your claim is bullshit.
>
>
> So you are saying
>
I'm now saying that YOUR statement "Unless you are native American
>>>
>> Well I didn't, and I raised my daughters better than that.
>> But that's irrelevant to whether the Mohegans, or the Abenaki,
>> or any other of the several indigenous people in the 16th and
>> 17th centuries A.D. who inhabited what is now New England,
>> had any law making immigration to those lands illegal. You
>> imply that they had immigration laws without any evidence.
>> From all accounts I've read the natives welcomed the Pilgrams
>> and even helped them survive a bleak first winter. That sounds
>> a great deal like their immigration was legal, which proves
>> your claim is bullshit.
>
>
> So you are saying
>
Indian, your ancestors came here illegally from somewhere" is bullshit
Scout
Sep 12, 2017, 2:07:47 AM9/12/17
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eliminated the Europeans in the New World.
And no, I don't see any evidence that they want to assimilate. After
all....part of that is to OBEY THE LAWS.
Just Wondering
Sep 12, 2017, 2:10:17 AM9/12/17
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On 9/11/2017 7:16 PM, iEnDb⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛cGATm wrote:
> Just Wondering wrote on 9/11/2017 8:29 PM:
>>
>> The dumbass Might Wannabe claims "Unless you are native
>> American Indian, your ancestors came here illegally
>> from somewhere." My questions responded to his bullshit
>> claim. It's not nice of you to remove that context.
>
> The 'bigger picture' is that you've climbed onto the lifeboat and
> you want to beat back everybody following behind you with your oar.
>
More bullshit. I have a house, and you're welcome to enter
> Just Wondering wrote on 9/11/2017 8:29 PM:
>>
>> The dumbass Might Wannabe claims "Unless you are native
>> American Indian, your ancestors came here illegally
>> from somewhere." My questions responded to his bullshit
>> claim. It's not nice of you to remove that context.
>
> The 'bigger picture' is that you've climbed onto the lifeboat and
> you want to beat back everybody following behind you with your oar.
>
IF you follow my rules. If you break into my home uninvited,
you should not expect to be welcomed.
Just Wondering
Sep 12, 2017, 2:12:49 AM9/12/17
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their stuff. You want them to get away with burglary and theft on an
international scale.>
> The Dreamers want to be assimilated. They want to go into your melting pot.
>
They want to break into your homes and take our stuff. You want them to
>
get away with it.
Just Wondering
Sep 12, 2017, 1:44:07 PM9/12/17
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On 9/12/2017 10:44 AM, Attila wrote:
> of the native American Indian immigrated here from somewhere else.
>
> Do we take this back to the first human?
>
You take it back to who owned what land and when, and what
if any were the immigration laws at that time and place.
If there were no laws making immigration illegal, then
any immigration would be legal.
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 Just Wondering wrote:
>
>> I'm now saying that YOUR statement "Unless you are native American
>> Indian, your ancestors came here illegally from somewhere" is bullshit
>
> Of course it is. Everyone seems to ignore the fact that the ancestors
>
>> I'm now saying that YOUR statement "Unless you are native American
>> Indian, your ancestors came here illegally from somewhere" is bullshit
>
> of the native American Indian immigrated here from somewhere else.
>
> Do we take this back to the first human?
>
You take it back to who owned what land and when, and what
if any were the immigration laws at that time and place.
If there were no laws making immigration illegal, then
any immigration would be legal.
Byker
Sep 12, 2017, 3:36:48 PM9/12/17
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> And the Indians were armed to the teeth and for many decades could have
> eliminated the Europeans in the New World.
Nope. That's what the late Louis L'Amour said about why there was never a
> eliminated the Europeans in the New World.
Lawrence of Arabia to unite all the tribes into a common force to fight the
Europeans. The Indians were always one step behind the Whites when it came
to firearm technology.
When the first White settlers arrived, it was bows and arrows vs.
matchlocks.
By the time the Injuns got their hands on matchlocks, the flintlock had
taken its place.
By the time Injuns had flintlocks, caplocks made them obsolete.
By the the time they got caplocks, breech-loaders and revolvers were in the
Whites' inventory.
It seems that parity had been reached in 1876 at the Little Big Horn. The
outcome would have been different had Custer brought along his two Gatling
guns...
The truth Johnny Depp wants to hide about the real-life Tontos:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html
Byker
Sep 12, 2017, 4:22:01 PM9/12/17
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"iEnDb⚛← Ｍｉｇｈｔｙ ╬ Ｗａｎｎａｂｅ →⚛cGATm" wrote in message
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>
It's easy to feel sympathetic towards minorities when you don't have to put
up with their bullshit on a daily basis....
news:DzGtB.59861$9F2....@fx30.iad...
>
> The 'bigger picture' is that you've climbed onto the lifeboat and you want
> to beat back everybody following behind you with your oar.
Here's my tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwIg3Mjlro
> to beat back everybody following behind you with your oar.
It's easy to feel sympathetic towards minorities when you don't have to put
up with their bullshit on a daily basis....
Just Wondering
Sep 12, 2017, 7:37:31 PM9/12/17
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On 9/12/2017 1:36 PM, Byker wrote:
>> And the Indians were armed to the teeth and for many decades
>> could have eliminated the Europeans in the New World.
>
> Nope. That's what the late Louis L'Amour said about why there
> was never a Lawrence of Arabia to unite all the tribes into a
> common force to fight the Europeans. The Indians were alway > one step behind the Whites when it came to firearm technology.
>> And the Indians were armed to the teeth and for many decades
>> could have eliminated the Europeans in the New World.
>
> Nope. That's what the late Louis L'Amour said about why there
> was never a Lawrence of Arabia to unite all the tribes into a
>
> When the first White settlers arrived, it was bows and arrows vs.
> matchlocks.
>
> By the time the Injuns got their hands on matchlocks,
> the flintlock had taken its place.
>
> By the time Injuns had flintlocks, caplocks made them obsolete.
>
> By the the time they got caplocks, breech-loaders and revolvers
> were in the Whites' inventory.
>
Not to overlook the fact which you mention in passing, that
> When the first White settlers arrived, it was bows and arrows vs.
> matchlocks.
>
> By the time the Injuns got their hands on matchlocks,
> the flintlock had taken its place.
>
> By the time Injuns had flintlocks, caplocks made them obsolete.
>
> By the the time they got caplocks, breech-loaders and revolvers
> were in the Whites' inventory.
>
it wasn't the English settlers/USA against a united Indian
nation. There were dozens, even hundreds of different
tribes/nations, many of whom fought among themselves as much
as they fought the European settlers. Some of those tribes
didn't even have a settled territory to call home, so they saw no
vested interest in protecting land they didn't regard as their own.
> It seems that parity had been reached in 1876 at the Little
> Big Horn. The outcome would have been different had Custer
> brought along his two Gatling guns...
>
have slowed him down so much that there wouldn't have
even been a battle.
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