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Ilya Shambat
Mar 26, 2012, 9:25:14 PM3/26/12
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The conservatives on the Internet and elsewhere are conmen and
lunatics who spin paranoias and fictions in order to keep people from
noticing their deceptions. When I suggested that young violent
offenders should be drafted into the military, a lunatic conservative
said that this was a liberal ploy to weaken the army. When I said that
I was a part of a clean energy project, a lunatic conservative accused
me of fascism. When I tell the factual reality that should be common
sense - that raising carbon emissions while cutting down rainforests
that absorb carbon dioxide means problems - the lunatic conservatives
continue to accuse me of running a hoax. So it should come as no
surprise that the lunatic conservatives would be supporting the most
irrational candidates in the history of American politics.
The American lifestyle exists because of science. Without science, not
their vehicles, not their TV's, not their air conditioning, not their
computers, not their phones, not their supermarkets, would exist. And
yet the lunatic conservatives continue to attack science. They do not
give credit for what they have to science, as supposedly nothing good
comes from the damn commie liberal government. They give it to God,
who had nothing to do with it (or else the same things would have
existed in every Christian society over the 2000 years that
Christianity has existed), or else to America - meaning themselves as
practicioners of lunatic conservatism rather than the hard-working and
- yes - liberal people in America's institutions of higher learning.
The lunatic conservatives continue to take credit for all of America's
accomplishments. Meanwhile most of these accomplishments were done by
liberals or middle-of-the-roaders. Science that's at the root of
everything that business sells; education that makes people
employable; the computer industry that was the true engine of 1980s
and 1990s prosperity; Hollywood that dominates the world's airwaves;
and government projects such as the Interstate and the Internet that
provide the backbone for business growth and prosperity; are all
vastly liberal. Meanwhile the right-wing economic entities such as
Texas Oil and the beef industry are economic parasites that, in case
of Texas Oil, lied to people and lobbied government for decades to
deny reality and sabotage progress toward better technologies; and, in
case of the beef industry, is government-subsidized to the point that
it takes land that should be used to feed 2 billion people and uses
most of it to raise cattle feed, so that it feeds a fraction of that
number; and instead of reaping vast economic benefit from selling the
food abroad and vast political benefit from giving it away in times of
famine, America reaps obesity, diabetes and debt.
The lunatic conservatives keep whining about "liberal media." Liberal
media? Does that mean Rupert Murdoch? So they've created their own
liar media consisting of conmen such as Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh,
Glenn Beck and Alex Jones and are continuing to whine that they're
being outcompeted by "liberal media" even as they continue to claim
that the liberal are all whiners and that they, as conservatives, are
reasonable strong responsible men.
The lunatic conservatives continue insisting that they are rational
and responsible even as they continue to aggressively deny reality and
to spew forth lies and absurdities such as that the world is run by a
Satanic conspiracy, that AIDS is God's way of controlling the
homosexual population, that 9-11 happened because God removed his
protective umbrella over America, that global warming is a hoax, or
that one can want the end of the world before the children being born
now have reached maturity and have family values at the same time.
Unbelievably, there is a large population that believes all this
nonsense. Well, maybe not unbelievably. If millions of people could
follow Hitler, then so can millions of people follow his American
equivalents such as Rick Santorum.
These are the people who claim that they are America, and that the 250
million other Americans aren't. These are the people who accuse Obama,
one of America's most gentlemanly and reserved ever presidents, of
being a totalitarian even as they are advocating overtly totalitarian
tactics such as imprisoning or killing liberal democrats. These are
the people who claim that they want a small and non-obtrusive
government even as they want to be part of the government and use
government powers to force people to live the way that they live
themselves. These are the people who claim ridiculously that they
built America. They did not. Hundreds of millions of people, working
over more than two centuries, built America. And most of these people
are nothing like the Tea Party.
When faced with a movement that's based on lies, sustained by trickery
and brutality, and seeks totalitarian control over American people,
American patriotism and respect for the Constitution requires
confronting and doing away with such a movement. America requires more
people who are willing to tell the truth, even if it means having
one's head stomped on at rallies or having viruses sent to one's
computer or having an FBI file on oneself or being called a Communist.
Go to the liar media outlets and tell the truth. Go tell the truth in
the places they frequent. Go tell the truth especially to people who
are vulnerable to their rackets. America's freedom, democracy and
future demand nothing less.
lunatics who spin paranoias and fictions in order to keep people from
noticing their deceptions. When I suggested that young violent
offenders should be drafted into the military, a lunatic conservative
said that this was a liberal ploy to weaken the army. When I said that
I was a part of a clean energy project, a lunatic conservative accused
me of fascism. When I tell the factual reality that should be common
sense - that raising carbon emissions while cutting down rainforests
that absorb carbon dioxide means problems - the lunatic conservatives
continue to accuse me of running a hoax. So it should come as no
surprise that the lunatic conservatives would be supporting the most
irrational candidates in the history of American politics.
The American lifestyle exists because of science. Without science, not
their vehicles, not their TV's, not their air conditioning, not their
computers, not their phones, not their supermarkets, would exist. And
yet the lunatic conservatives continue to attack science. They do not
give credit for what they have to science, as supposedly nothing good
comes from the damn commie liberal government. They give it to God,
who had nothing to do with it (or else the same things would have
existed in every Christian society over the 2000 years that
Christianity has existed), or else to America - meaning themselves as
practicioners of lunatic conservatism rather than the hard-working and
- yes - liberal people in America's institutions of higher learning.
The lunatic conservatives continue to take credit for all of America's
accomplishments. Meanwhile most of these accomplishments were done by
liberals or middle-of-the-roaders. Science that's at the root of
everything that business sells; education that makes people
employable; the computer industry that was the true engine of 1980s
and 1990s prosperity; Hollywood that dominates the world's airwaves;
and government projects such as the Interstate and the Internet that
provide the backbone for business growth and prosperity; are all
vastly liberal. Meanwhile the right-wing economic entities such as
Texas Oil and the beef industry are economic parasites that, in case
of Texas Oil, lied to people and lobbied government for decades to
deny reality and sabotage progress toward better technologies; and, in
case of the beef industry, is government-subsidized to the point that
it takes land that should be used to feed 2 billion people and uses
most of it to raise cattle feed, so that it feeds a fraction of that
number; and instead of reaping vast economic benefit from selling the
food abroad and vast political benefit from giving it away in times of
famine, America reaps obesity, diabetes and debt.
The lunatic conservatives keep whining about "liberal media." Liberal
media? Does that mean Rupert Murdoch? So they've created their own
liar media consisting of conmen such as Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh,
Glenn Beck and Alex Jones and are continuing to whine that they're
being outcompeted by "liberal media" even as they continue to claim
that the liberal are all whiners and that they, as conservatives, are
reasonable strong responsible men.
The lunatic conservatives continue insisting that they are rational
and responsible even as they continue to aggressively deny reality and
to spew forth lies and absurdities such as that the world is run by a
Satanic conspiracy, that AIDS is God's way of controlling the
homosexual population, that 9-11 happened because God removed his
protective umbrella over America, that global warming is a hoax, or
that one can want the end of the world before the children being born
now have reached maturity and have family values at the same time.
Unbelievably, there is a large population that believes all this
nonsense. Well, maybe not unbelievably. If millions of people could
follow Hitler, then so can millions of people follow his American
equivalents such as Rick Santorum.
These are the people who claim that they are America, and that the 250
million other Americans aren't. These are the people who accuse Obama,
one of America's most gentlemanly and reserved ever presidents, of
being a totalitarian even as they are advocating overtly totalitarian
tactics such as imprisoning or killing liberal democrats. These are
the people who claim that they want a small and non-obtrusive
government even as they want to be part of the government and use
government powers to force people to live the way that they live
themselves. These are the people who claim ridiculously that they
built America. They did not. Hundreds of millions of people, working
over more than two centuries, built America. And most of these people
are nothing like the Tea Party.
When faced with a movement that's based on lies, sustained by trickery
and brutality, and seeks totalitarian control over American people,
American patriotism and respect for the Constitution requires
confronting and doing away with such a movement. America requires more
people who are willing to tell the truth, even if it means having
one's head stomped on at rallies or having viruses sent to one's
computer or having an FBI file on oneself or being called a Communist.
Go to the liar media outlets and tell the truth. Go tell the truth in
the places they frequent. Go tell the truth especially to people who
are vulnerable to their rackets. America's freedom, democracy and
future demand nothing less.
Bret Cahill
Mar 27, 2012, 1:04:37 AM3/27/12
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Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
Bret Cahill
Art
Mar 27, 2012, 9:23:19 AM3/27/12
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On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:04:37 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
<Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Change the header to "The Lunatics."
>
>Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
But those nut jobs are catered to and encouraged by
<Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Change the header to "The Lunatics."
>
>Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
conservative office seekers, so the identification is inevitable.
Art
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Bret Cahill
Mar 27, 2012, 11:04:26 AM3/27/12
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> >Change the header to "The Lunatics."
>
> >Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
>
> But those nut jobs are catered to and encouraged by
> conservative office seekers, so the identification is inevitable.
True but it's useful to distinguish between the tire biters and those
>
> >Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
>
> But those nut jobs are catered to and encouraged by
> conservative office seekers, so the identification is inevitable.
getting real money out of the "deal."
Bret Cahill
Bret Cahill
Mar 27, 2012, 11:09:47 AM3/27/12
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The tire biters think they'll get a dog biscuit out of it. When they
don't get a biscuit they figure that they just aren't biting enough
tires ferociously enough.
It's not like they think they have any other options, i.e., reading a
little economics or political science.
> Is it a disease
> that they catch at some point.
Fear.
> They seem to be in desperation to out-do each
> other in being reactionaries and lunatics.
They are just trying to be competitive!
Bret Cahill
Art
Mar 27, 2012, 12:07:19 PM3/27/12
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do both.
Art
Eddie Haskell
Mar 27, 2012, 12:17:19 PM3/27/12
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"Ilya Shambat" <ibsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:aca426c9-a880-4891...@x10g2000pbi.googlegroups.com...
> The conservatives on the Internet and elsewhere are conmen and
> lunatics who spin paranoias and fictions in order to keep people from
> noticing their deceptions. When I suggested that young violent
> offenders should be drafted into the military, a lunatic conservative
> said that this was a liberal ploy to weaken the army.
Even my fucking dog knows that's it a stupid idea to be sending criminals
> lunatics who spin paranoias and fictions in order to keep people from
> noticing their deceptions. When I suggested that young violent
> offenders should be drafted into the military, a lunatic conservative
> said that this was a liberal ploy to weaken the army.
into the military.
Damned lunatic.
-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
Mar 27, 2012, 12:18:43 PM3/27/12
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"Kirby Grant" <KGr...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lCkcr.21555$7h1....@news.usenetserver.com...
>
> On 27-Mar-2012, Bret Cahill <Bret_E...@yahoo.com> wrote at
> alt.philosophy:
> that they catch at some point. They seem to be in desperation to out-do
> each
> other in being reactionaries and lunatics.
"I voted for the person who became president. Therefore it was the correct
> other in being reactionaries and lunatics.
vote."
-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Although it is more polite to just say "menally challenged" these days."
-Kirby Grant, Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"All churches are racist hate churches""
-Kirby Grant, Friday, March 09, 2012 12:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"A fetus is not alive until it takes its first breath."
-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, February 21,
2012 1:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
Eddie Haskell: At any rate, you obviously believe that he [Hussein] was born
in the US.
Kirby Grant: I don't believe that at all. I know that he was born in Hawaii.
-Monday, December 12, 2011 3:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"I don't believe things. I operate without beliefs."
-Kirby Grant, Monday, December 12, 2011 2:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Beliefs are not based on facts or experience."
-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Believe what you want. Beliefs are for fools and pathetic snots like
yourself."
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, June 09, 2011 11:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"I am perfectly capable of living without beliefs. "
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"I told you a long time ago I do not "believe" things. That is something
that weak-minded people do. "
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"The original message was about Sarah "I can see Russia from my front door"
Palin."
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:34 PM
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110608094524AAnEDin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Only fringe loonies listen."
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"I voted for President Obama because he was the most qualified individual
who ran for president in 2008. "
-Kirby Grant, Friday, July 22, 2011 3:13 PM
"That's ridiculous. Of course he received congressional approval. He issued
an executive order."
-Kirby Grant, Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"I don't have any beliefs at all, except that I believe I'll have another
diet coke since I'm thirsty. Beliefs are for those who don't have
knowledge."
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
In fact, Dubya wasn't actually a natural born citizen - his mother gave
birth to him via C-section. Which means he was not born naturally.
-Kirby Grant, Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"About the only thing noteworthy about 9/11 is that NYC got a hole in the
ground that has been far more profitable for the city than the buildings
that used to exist on that spot. Generally it can be said that they are
fairly satisfied with the overall results over the past decade. They
couldn't have done better unless they had planned it
themselves."
-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Obama will be re-elected. By a very comfortable margin."
-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"How is it possible that you are just one person and yet you have more
ignorance 'then' a thousand men?"
-Kirby Grant, Friday, June 03, 2011 10:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Of course I have a brand in this fire because I had been married to an
immoral slut who I didn't realize was banging half the guys in town whenever
I was away on a business trip and that was often several times a month."
-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"As a matter of fact, yes. I am a historian. Not that you would have ever
read my materials - which were written under a different identity."
-Kirby Grant,Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Given the latest announcement by the WHO regarding cell phone usage and
brain cancer, I'm betting Republicans won't be smart enough to decrease
their cell phone usage."
-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"Being BORN on either the north American or South American continent or the
Latin America in between the north american and south american continent
more or less conveys the status of being an American."
-Kirby Grant, Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"You see, we have plenty of confusion on the Democratic side as well, but we
know better 'then' to start having splinter groups. "
-Kirby Grant, Monday, July 18, 2011 1:29 PM
"Again with the vast ignorance. I was wrong - you have more ignorance 'then'
ten thousand other men."
-Kirby Grant, Friday, June 03, 2011 10:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"I know better 'then' to address a letter to the president."
-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, June 08, 2011 5:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rav9ijyyZk
"People who have never served have no right at all to comment on how
military operations are performed."
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:27 PM
Haskell: The democrats oppose school choice on behalf of the NEA because
they don't want the competition.
Grant: The National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) doesn't do any of what you
just claimed.
-Thursday, December 29, 2011 2:42 PM
"Liberals have been winning in this country for well over 200 years"
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:38 PM
"Classical liberalism is the philosophy committed to the ideal of limited
government, constitutionalism, rule of law, due process, and liberty of
individuals including freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, and
free markets"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
"Classical liberalism simply does not apply any longer. It is part of the
myths that float around in that infantile mind you possess. It describe
something that exist some time in the past, but which has been superceded by
post-modernism."
-Kirby Grant, Monday, December 19, 2011 8:09 AM
"For starters, liberal and liberalism are two different ideas."
-Kirby Grant, Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:23 AM
Eddie Haskell: Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Kirby Grant: Like all other stupid conservatives, you live in sound bite
hell. Your first sentence is not true and has never been true. It only
exists as a sound bite because it sounds clever. But is is totally outside
proof.
-Kirby Grant, Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:38 PM
-Eddie Haskell
Bret Cahill
Mar 27, 2012, 1:07:55 PM3/27/12
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> Damned lunatic.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
Down boy, down, down.
>
> -Eddie Haskell
Down boy, down, down.
Bret Cahill
Mar 27, 2012, 1:19:31 PM3/27/12
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> >> >Change the header to "The Lunatics."
>
> >> >Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
>
> >> But those nut jobs are catered to and encouraged by
> >> conservative office seekers, so the identification is inevitable.
>
> >True but it's useful to distinguish between the tire biters and those
> >getting real money out of the "deal."
>
> But some (Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh pop into mind as examples)
> do both.
Their only interest in politics is making money off the tire biters.
>
> >> >Conservatism has nothing to do with these nut jobs.
>
> >> But those nut jobs are catered to and encouraged by
> >> conservative office seekers, so the identification is inevitable.
>
> >True but it's useful to distinguish between the tire biters and those
> >getting real money out of the "deal."
>
> But some (Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh pop into mind as examples)
> do both.
Clinton and Obama didn't cause Rush or Newt to get heart attacks, for
example.
There are examples of confused lunatics who are actually interested in
politics who also make some money off of it, Breitbart for example.
Rush will only get a heart attack if his base fractures so much he
doesn't know what to say to pander to them.
That may be happening now.
It's so satisfying to listen to Rush nowadays.
Bret Cahill
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