Oh Really? (was Re: Wrong Group)
Miller Jew
corn...@gtlaw.com wrote:
rsat...@iglou.com wrote:
Lisa wrote:
D
>Lisa, thank you for a very kind welcome here.
Hi David! Welcome to the 'grove'..
>Now that the hurricane has blown by,
Hmmm.. seems quite a few -- down them parts write here.
>I returned to my computer to read that Tzaddik was less than
>welcoming.
Mind over matter? :-) :::Glad::: the hurricane didn't stop you from
interferring in writing to us. My! It must have taken a long time to
write it. That all is well (and for others who write here). As far as
getting 'introduced' to Rick (rsattich) he's kinda of a taoist
'bouncer' for this 'dance' floor.. Although it's freely chosen, he's
been most aidful, if and when you might find interest to review the
history of this a.p.t. newsgroup.
Whether by hook-or-crook :-o -- thanks! for providing your excellent
credentials. A valued asset for much that we can share here and learn
from (paradoxically, unknownst, if it weren't for rick --tx guys..)
Oh p.s. now that some intro's over, David, do you feel the ttc1/2
have hindu yoga aspects involved in it? re Lisa's recent question?
Especially regarded within Tibetan Buddhistic esoterics? Now that
would be new here too :-) Tx in advance!
Regards!
--Zhou
Tzaddik
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> ref: Subject: Re: Oh Really? (Was Re: Wrong group)
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> corn...@gtlaw.com wrote:
> rsat...@iglou.com wrote:
> Lisa wrote:
>
> D
> >Lisa, thank you for a very kind welcome here.
>
> Hi David! Welcome to the 'grove'..
>
> >Now that the hurricane has blown by,
>
> Hmmm.. seems quite a few -- down them parts write here.
>
> >I returned to my computer to read that Tzaddik was less than
> >welcoming.
>
> Mind over matter? :-) :::Glad::: the hurricane didn't stop you from
> interferring in writing to us. My! It must have taken a long time to
> write it. That all is well (and for others who write here). As far as
> getting 'introduced' to Rick (rsattich) he's kinda of a taoist
> 'bouncer' for this 'dance' floor.. Although it's freely chosen, he's
> been most aidful, if and when you might find interest to review the
> history of this a.p.t. newsgroup.
>
> Whether by hook-or-crook :-o -- thanks! for providing your excellent
> credentials. A valued asset for much that we can share here and learn
> from (paradoxically, unknownst, if it weren't for rick --tx guys..)
Can I feret these guys out or what? First Kamerm and now David
If we can get enough of these Doctornine caliber philosophers we might
get some good informational flow going.
Miller Jew
>corn...@gtlaw.com wrote:
>rsattich (my 'cool-cat'!@->iglou.com (not to be enjoined!:) wrote:
>Lisa Fox wrote:
D
>snip< (see post..)
Excellent Excellent syllabus David..
It's well worth focusing on their breakdown..
D
>...Beyond those parallels, though, there is fascinating ongoing
>academic work focusing on the origins of Dzogchen, the "highest,"
>most "esoteric" teachings to be found in TBism.
Ya mean like, in esoteric himalayan "dzyan"??
my fave! (in colloboration with the ttc/ct of course :-)
but gotta go beddy bye tho..
ya took most of the evening!
. .
offering an egg-enclosed lard-filled
Harvest Moon Festival cake for you D (Et Al!)..
Regards!
-Zhou @ our bamboo.grove!
>According to new theories, Dzogchen -- which itself has many
parallels with Chan teachings -- itself arose through the interaction
of Bon (second-stage Bon, which already reflected Buddhist influences,
not the original more purely "shamanistic" Bon) and Mahayana Buddhism
with -- yup -- Taoism (daojia). So there are actually great
compatibilities, and each system can, should one be so inclined,
supplement the other without necessary contradiction. Yet there is
also certainly no "Tibetan Buddhist" influence on the DDJ. <<--
"caught" yer "quote(s)" :-)
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Miller Jew
lisa <lk...@gte.net> wrote:
"kamerm" <kam...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
Miller Jew <zho...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Doug M wrote:
DoctorNine <Th...@yahoo.com> wrote
>Yeah, Doug. I know what you mean..
>......
>Hi Zhou <--Hi Li!)
>When I first read this it threw me a little, since it seems to go
>against the 'discard knowledge' of the ttc and the ct's 'throwing
>away the net once the fish is caught'...
>
>will you say more about what the ttc and ct are saying, if they
>aren't saying what they are saying on the surface?
To relate a bit here, I liked what "ht" said about part of the
"practicing aspects of Taoism". That in particular, "One branch (call
it Xue(2)-Wen(4) branch) is the philosophical study of tao, which is
to search truth and what really is."
For an agreement with what ht said, and focusing on the later quote,
one may see quite clearly the purpose of the philosophical branch of
Taoism --if not-- the total purpose *underlying* Taoism itself.
As oft stated by scholastic researchers the philosophical TTC is made
for *rulers* --> the "light in the head" that gives conscious purpose
for the 'why's of phenomenal living; is studied for the truth of it as
"what really is"..
Now the Chuang Tzu is (literally) so *bamboo-stripped* to be difficult
(but not impossible) in accessing its *ruling* attributions also, -->
for the en-*light*-enment <-- that's below its *shadowy*-surface. >g<
Look for Cook Ting, Carpenter Shih, No Toes, Mr. Lame-Hunchback-No-
Lips, 'Confucius', dealing *Light* to cicadas, little doves and frogs
:-).. of a higher self intertwining on it's lower self..
jes the light -- and its shadow..
fading out,
--Zhou