Why Jesus is not the Antichrist.
Kevin B. Murphy
Abraham appreciated the greatness or character that he saw in the mayor of
Jerusalem... Well, that is an inept reason by any measure... I guess it just
goes to show that Jews in general are gullible... Jesus is under such
incredible pressure to show that he has respect for his elders that... Jesus
really has no other option than to put on a show of being a gullible Jew.
What it amounts to is that the whole idea of 'Christ' is really just a
Jewish thing... Everything else there is 'antichrist'. The world outside
functions on the principles of antichrist... while Jews are gullible for
believing in christ.
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Denial of Free Will makes the Knowledge of Order Absolute.
C3
This was a thoughtful message. God bless you.
C3
Don Stockbauer
Maybe Christ is His own anti-Christ, isomorphic to the photon being
its own anti-particle? Worth a look, don't you think?
THE BORG
"C3" <C35...@aol.com> wrote in message
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C3
You order God around do you?
Since when do you have the right to bestow the blessing of
God on anyone?
Who God chooses to bless and when, is up to God, not you,
nor anyone else.
THE BORG
mrdilligent
From: Don Stockbauer
On Nov 19, 12:21 am, C3 <C35...@aol.com> wrote:
In Greek, _christ_ meant "annointed."
Now think about that. What does this have to do with any of the
above?
It takes a lot of honest human THINKING to fathom what all this has to
do with Jesus and with the Antichrist.
To annoint something it must be smeared with grease, like a basted
turkey or a greased pig. How did this come to be associated with
kings, and with such as Jesus?
For the answer to this, we must go way back into prehistory, when some
hominem, before Homo sapiens sapiens (us physically) came onto the
scene, discovered fire. This type of hominem almost literally
"reached up into the sky and stole fire from the gods"---with his
MIND. He discovered how to turn some kinds of terrestrial matter into
plasma, the same sorts of plasmic matter that the sun radiates. The
Greeks' word for this homenem was _prometheus_, or "the mind/idea that
came before." This long-extinct hominem species was the "brother" of
"the mind/idea that came after," or _epitheus_. That is us, epitheus,
or as we say today, Homo sapiens sapiens.
So now we have to figure out how fire came to be associated with
kings. Well, back in prehistory, it was discovered that fire could be
made to last by using the fats of the prey animals man hunted, and
later, from the oils that plants produce. Here we find the "grease"
of annointment.
But, like the sun, fire enables diurnal man's eyes to see; fire was
the earthly surrogate of the sun. And, apart from heating and
cooking, fire enabling man to see brings to the human mind knowledge.
So fire brings nighttime knowledge as the daytime sun brings daytime
knowledge. Grease sustains the fire so that more knowledge can be
acquired.
Many millenia later, this prehistoric concept was continued, so that
chieftans, now turned into rulers (not just leaders; there is a
difference), were symbolically smeared with grease or or oil to ensure
that they would receive the knowledge necessary for humans to
survive---and now to rule..
_Christ_ was the word that the Greeks used for this symbolic smearing
of grease to ensure knowledge.
That was long, long before Jesus was born in Judea. It is doubtful
that Greek was spoken in these lands so long ago.
Now Jesus seemed to KNOW a lot. So, after his death, and as rumors of
this man spread into Greece, the natives of Greece gave this legend
the epithet "annointed."
For our purposes today, _christ_ means knowledge, and one cannot have
knowledge of any sort without a MIND. So, in a way, _christ_also
means mind, the mind that gets the knowledge.
An antichrist is one who does NOT have knowledge. Such a person
spreads falsehoods as if the falsehoods were true, thus knowledge.
Jesus was one who had true knowledge, all those who did not---the
priest and pharisees, for example---did not. Thus Jesus was a christ,
while the others were antichrists.
And btw, the reason for respecting anyone who has greatness or
character is NOT an inept reason! It is perhaps the only valid reason
for respecting and admiring anyone, mayor or otherwise.
Kevin B. Murphy
On 19-Nov-2009, Don Stockbauer <don.sto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe Christ is His own anti-Christ, isomorphic to the photon being
> its own anti-particle? Worth a look, don't you think?
It certainly has occurred to me what you are saying... brrr... scary
thought... I think Jesus just wants to be respected for who he was... When I
say that I am the leader of my generation... that is the same thing as what
Jesus was trying to be... It's Paul who confuses everything... Paul is kind
of like Vladimir Lenin to Marx... In any event, antichrist is perceived as
being for the best... Sun Tzu is the antichrist... Sun Tzu is better from
the perspective of some... even knowing that Sun Tzu is the antichrist.
Ironically, believing or even saying that Sun Tzu is the antichrist instills
incredible confidence in those who follow Sun Tzu.
Kevin B. Murphy
On 20-Nov-2009, mrdilligent <oso...@aol.com> wrote:
> In Greek, _christ_ meant "annointed."
>
> Now think about that. What does this have to do with any of the
> above?
I don't think that it detracts from my argument... kings are anointed if you
knew the story of how David became king.
mrdilligent
From: "Kevin B. Murphy"
<<On 20-Nov-2009, mrdilligent <oso...@aol.com> wrote:
<<> In Greek, _christ_ meant "annointed."
>
<<> Now think about that. What does this have to do with any of the
<<> above?
<<I don't think that it detracts from my argument... kings are
anointed if you
knew the story of how David became king.>>
It wasn't just David. David lived in Judea, but there were kings, by
one word or another, all over the world from earliest times.
_King_ is from the Anglo-Saxon word for "chief," or "head," after the
physical heads of all discernable animals. The animal bodypart that
we call head LEADS the animal; all important empirical senses are
located here. The head (or the brain which resides inside) does not
rule the cells which reside in all the other parts of the body; it
mearly leads them as to what is empiricallty appropriate for them to
do as detected by the empirical senses in the head. This protects the
group, what we call the "body."
And so it was with all human tribes since paleolithic (e.g., the
Austrailian aborigines) through the neolithic (e.g. the North American
aborigines) times. The members of each tribe ruled themselves, as
individuals and as members of the tribe, but not much can be
accomplished if all members talk at once, or act alone rather than in
concert with the tribe as a whole. So a "head" of each tribe was set
up to be the moderator of the tribe's members, the spokesman for the
tribe's collective members with other tribes through their own chiefs,
and as the leader of the tribe in hunting or battle. That is, the
"king" physically led the other hunters/warriors in space as they went
to and accomplished the hunt or battle.
We say today of other social-animal groups, the "alpha male," or the
"alpha female." But the "alpha" animal is the same thing for their
species' group as the chief, or "king," used to be for the human
group, or tribe. The "alpha" animal does not rule the group's members
(other than the young; all adults rule the young, as that is how the
young learn); it leads; it does what the other members want it to do.
The type of lifestyle we today call "civilization" continued this
practice. Trouble is, since "settling down" and organizing a
"division of labor," now the tribesmen no longer could see for
themselves what was natural to do in the "wild," as the area outside
of the civ's land came to be called. They no longer knew what was
true, or real. Only the "king" did (supposedly), but by now the
"king" had become a ruler rather than a leader. The people no longer
ruled themselves or the group; the king did all the ruling. This
"king" was supposedly guided by the shaman-cum-priest, but together,
and with the chief warrior or "general," they only made mischief (NB:
"bad head"), and saw to it that the tribesmen-cum-population gave them
the very best of the foods and goods, and type of living, while most
of the people themselves had to make do with the rest.
David was one of the few kings since the dawn of civilization in that
area who tried to revert to the way things used to be done; the proper
way. His name and some of his deeds came down to us in history, but
there probably were others. The Jewish people kept very good records,
as ancient records go, which is why we today have the "Bible."
And despite our civ-generated superstitions, the "Bible" is not a
religious book; just an anthology of annals of people just like us,
basically, who long ago LEARNED from their EXPERIENCES, and who
recorded the lessons learned and the activities from which they
learned them. And that is the gist of how come we still have these
annals.
There was no "God" in the Jewish lands; only something(s) the people
called "elohim" (principles of life) or "Yawheh" (the individual is
equal to the whole, or homeostasis); the word _God_ belonged to the
West Germanics, and meant only "that which is desireable" (presumably,
for human-life sustanance and enhancement). Civilization has lost all
this knowledge, and has really botched things up for all of us.
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<<--
<<Denial of Free Will makes the Knowledge of Order Absolute.>>
Another term for "free will" is "random chance." There can be no true
order without flexibility. But civ man likes things "neat" and
"predictable" (thus avoiding the natural principle of adaptation), and
would have everyone look alike and march to a single drummer. Thiis
would be pure rigidity, and pure rigidity is the other side of the
same coin, the flip side being pure flacidity, which is also chaotic.
True cosmos (order), or structure, comes from the appropriate mixture
of rigidity and flacidity, depending on the demands of the
circumstance. Consider for an example buildings and bridges: Too
flacid, and they break from bending to the harmonics of erosion; too
rigid, they break from brittleness. So we have learned to temper
steel, and to build flexibility into buildings so that they will
withstand winds and earthquakes.