how can you modify cdr765 philips cd recorder to use cheap data cds?
Alejandro León
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Patrick Timlin
> how can you modify cdr765 philips cd recorder to use cheap data cds?
Hey Alejandro, could you maybe ask this same question another half dozen
times or so???
I already told you that there was a guy who makes a chip that allows you
to do that. I already told you that if you search past messages for this
group, you could find those threads that talk about it. YOU replied that
you would look for them.
Did you bother to even look? Here I will give you a hint, the guy posted
under the name "MacDennis" (took me all of a minute to find the thread).
Now since you are using Deja.com, go see if you can find it.
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Peter W. Bosse
> how can you modify cdr765 philips cd recorder to use cheap data cds?
>
Try to see: http://www.hoer-an.de/frame_d.htm
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Alejandro León
> Hey Alejandro, could you maybe ask this same question another half
dozen times or so???
Yes, I certainly could, if that is what you want, but I could tell by
the "tone of your voice" you wouldn't like that at all, would you?
> I already told you that there was a guy who makes a chip that allows
you to do that. I already told you that if you search past messages for
this group, you could find those threads that talk about it. YOU
replied that you would look for them.
Yes, guilty as charged...but, you know what? Sometimes DEJA doesn't
work fine and I did exactly what YOU TOLD ME TO DO, but I didn't get
that thread.
> Did you bother to even look?
Of course I bothered the hell of a LOT looking for that info.
> Here I will give you a hint, the guy posted
> under the name "MacDennis" (took me all of a minute to find the
thread).
Well, it took me more than that and a lot of "Sorry messages" from Deja
saying the info wasn`t available to realize that I had problems looking
for it... that's why I decided to use my right to freedom of speech and
ask again, and if somebody knows a direct answer to my question I'd be
glad.
> Now since you are using Deja.com, go see if you can find it.
That's exactly what I'm doing while I take the time to answer. Sorry
that you don't have patience with people new to this, like me. I have
to ask because I DON't simply KNOW! I don't publish my questions to
bother you, and I'm really sorry if I did.
By the way, thanx for the hint. I'm sure it will help a lot.
Al
Mike reverse the letters S.
From: MacDennis <de...@cable.a2000.nl>
Newsgroups: alt.philips.cdr.discussion,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Philips CD-RW Audio Modification !
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:40:39 +0100
Philips CD-R(W) Audio Modification !!
If you own a stand-alone Philips CD-recorder then you know that these
machines only accept special 'audio' CD-R/W's.
Well, this is now a thing of the past!
By installing a special modification in the machine, it suddenly
becomes possible to use any brand and type of CD-R/W in the machine.
Yes, even normal, no-name CD-RW's are now accepted!
How does it work?
The modification converts every CD-R or CD-RW to an audio CD-R or
CD-RW. The CD-recoder will always think an audio CD-R/W has been
inserted into the machine. The modification consists of a small chip
which has to be soldered by some wires to the mainboard.
Any problems?
No, the modification works completely transparant to the user of the
machine. The usage and the functionality of the machine aren't
affected in any way!
Why this modification?
You will never have to search and buy the more expensive audio CD-R's.
Audio CD-RW's are even more expensive and often harder to find. If you
often have to record your own work then this modification will provide
a solution. You can now use any normal and cheap CD-R/W from you local
computer shop. Yes, also CD-RW's.
Isn't this some kind of special 'swap' trick?
No! The special chip will convert every normal CD-R/W to an audio
CD-R/W which are accepted by the machine. The CD-recorder will also
always adapt itself to the CD-R/W which has been inserted. A correct
laser calibration, also called OPC, will always be performed! This
isn't the case with the 'swap' trick which was possible on the older
machines. Only with this special modification every CD-R/W can be
burned correctly.
Which machines can be modified?
The modification works on the following machines at this moment:
Philips 560, 760, 765, 870, 880
Marantz DR700
Traxdata (needs to be verified)
How can I place an order?
You can reserve one or more modification chips by sending us an e-mail
at: sa...@psx-charger.com
The CD-R/W Audio Modification costs $75. A detailed installation
manual and enough wires are also provided.
We give quantity discounts, e-mail for current prices.
With best regards,
CDR-Charger Team
Patrick Timlin
>> Hey Alejandro, could you maybe ask this same question another half
>> dozen times or so???
Alejandro León <alejan...@my-deja.com> replied:
> Yes, I certainly could, if that is what you want, but I could tell by
> the "tone of your voice" you wouldn't like that at all, would you?
Ya I guess I was being a bit of a big jerk, huh. It would have been ok
if you have simply called me an @$$hole. <grin>
> Well, it took me more than that and a lot of "Sorry messages" from
> Deja saying the info wasn`t available to realize that I had problems
> looking for it...
I guess part of the (my) problem is that I have been using Deja for a
LOOOONGGGG time now and I forget how much harder it is to use now. If I
may go off on a bit of a rant on Deja...
They USED to be a wonderful service where the idea was a web site that
archived all usenet postings for all the world to be able to use and
look up any old posts. The whole site centered around that. The front
page was oriented to looking for posts. It was both a brilliant idea
for a web site and unique. Back then it was called Dejanews.com in
reference to its core purpose.
Then the web really took off and the idiots at Dejanews said "hey let's
do something really boring and generic, definately not very unique, and
turn ourselves into a dime-a-dozen web site that focuses on internet
shopping and e-retail. We'll have reviews of products and price guides,
etc. etc" So off they ran changed their name to deja.com and now are a
crappy online shopping portal. While they still archive usenet
messages, they bury that stuff deep in the web site and hide discussion
search functions and usenet group browsing to obscure places on the web
site. Even when you do find a search area, you have to make sure you
are searching in "discussions" and not their stupid product data base.
So to make a long story longer (grin) I forget that their web site for
usenet searches is no longer user friendly like it used to be. The data
is there, but they don't make it easy to find. However if you want to
look up prices of blenders...
Again my apologies. I had a hair across my butt last night I guess.
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Patrick Timlin
I don't speak any German. Do you? If so can you give us the summary of
what they are selling? As best I can tell they sell full units but it
looks like they sell a mod of some sort as well? True? Is the mod just
for using data CDRs or does it also defeat the SCMS too?
Alejandro León
Patrick Timlin <pti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Peter W. Bosse" <peterw...@worldonline.dk> wrote:
> > Try to see: http://www.hoer-an.de/frame_d.htm
>
> I don't speak any German. Do you? If so can you give us the summary of
> what they are selling? As best I can tell they sell full units but it
> looks like they sell a mod of some sort as well? True? Is the mod just
> for using data CDRs or does it also defeat the SCMS too?
"The price for the kit is 98,- DM, banktransfer costs 15,- DM and
freight 24,- DM.
The kit is a full automatic system which allows to use the pro-CD-R
(DATA CD's for computer cd burner) without any difference to Audio-CD-
R. You have to solder 6 cables to the transport board and you should
have a good knowledge about fine-soldering. The kit comes with a copy
of the board layout to localize the soldering pin position.
Important hints to the offered appliances with Knackplatine:
The new Pioneer PDR 509 corresponds to the older Pioneer PDR 555 RWS in
the drive-technology and has the mechanically stable drive of all not
professional CD-Recorder with it. He/it can become require that, which
meaningful-proves, inclusive that trousseaus on digitaler level, so
that all pieces sound with the Sampeln of different CD´s same loud
which a very important characteristic is. The Pioneer PDR 509 sounds
objectively assesses very well. Through the application of our
lötfreien Knackplatine remains the guarantee gets. For us, this
appliance is with beside the Philips CDR 950/951 the best appliance at
the market. From the Preis-Leistungs-Verhältnis, the Pioneer is PDR not
to beat 509. Pioneer is in this technology of the market-leaders with a
projection of several years before all other manufacturers, which is
reflected impressively in this appliance.
The new models of Philips CDR 950/951 and others was not yet available
with the preparation of this text in the trade, so that we could still
bring in no own experiences and can only point out the press-
publications.
With the appliances with Knackplatine is valid: Alternative Audio-CD-
R/RWs and computers can be used CD-R/RW despite the built-in
Knackplatine. The appliances can write CD-R, could delete and could
part-delete (piece for piece). for all appliances with Knackplatine is
valid with application of the pro-brutes, that the aufgenommnene must
become CD-R/RW before taking out finalisiert. The finalisierte Pro CD-R
is on both appliances, as well like on all current CD-Playern pass-
devoid of. With the Knackmodul is absolutely to be used Pro CD-R and CD-
RW without restriction like Audio-CD-R. "
ABOUT THE SCMS:
"Universal copy protection-fogey SRC 2000 599, - DM
Ultra High-Performace Sample installment converters of 25-60 kHzes in
32 and 44,1 kHzes; Jitterkiller; Edition of the signal alternatively in
professional and in Consumer format; in each case 1x AES/EBUS, 1x
koaxials Cinch, 1x optically entrances and exits; separately
anwählbare entrances; Emphasis freely selectable; an entrance can be
distributed on all exits (Signalsplitting); no passing on of the title-
markings for start and stop; The problem with SCMS
All digitalen Consumer-HiFi appliances is equipped management system
SCMS Copy with the so-called Serial. This system guarantees, that no
digitale can be produced copies second-copy by digitalen. In order to
prepare therefore another copy, one would have to the detour over the
analogous one - and exits go, and clear sound-losses accept. With the
attempt a digitale, to produce second-copy, appears only one mistake-
news in the Display of the respective recorder. With the cut of
receptions, with Archivierungsarbeiten or with the Finalisierung of a
CD, this system is extremely tiresome. Furthermore one had to always
sit at the detour over the analogous-copy beside the appliances,
because the title-start-brands don't become mitkopierts with analogous
copies.
The solution
The HÖR-AN GEMINI COPY PROTECTION-FOGEYS was specifically developed for
CD-Recorder and marks digitale copies as receptions of the first
generation again (original), so that the recorder passes out no mistake-
news. Cuts, at will frequent digitales copying is now no more problem.
In order to come not with lawful regulations in conflict, piece of
information remains the real copyright gets. Technical implementation
The HÖR-AN GEMINI COPY PROTECTION-FOGEYS is accommodated aluminum-
casing of the size in a schwarz-eloxierten 100x25x150mm approximately.
Leuchtdiodens show at which entrance active is, and if exactly a
Copybit becomes gelöscht or only the signal becomes durchgereicht. The
optical Digitalanschlüsses correspond standard of the 2 to the Toslink.
improved generation, so that no impairments appear tonally. The Gemini
per offers you, to connect the possibility up to three pass-appliances
and two recorders. The two optical exits always deliver the same
signal, so that two copies can also be done simultaneously. By the
three entrances, one looks in rising sequence for a valid signal. A
valid signal was found this entrance remains selected until the signal
vanishes, then the next entrance is scanned after a valid signal. To
heed is, that 2 valid signals may not be existing at the entrances
simultaneously. "
That's what they sell for this machines...
Sorry for the grammar errors but I didn't have the time to correct
this.
AL
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GG
shook hands and admitted you were a little out of line.
Cool on Al's part as well for not kindling a flame thread in this newsgroup.
I'm impressed; you don't get to see that kind of behavior very often on
Usenet...
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