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the nightmare of Little Miracles Rabbit Rescue continues

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CrazyRabbitLady75

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Sep 16, 2008, 4:00:40 PM9/16/08
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How does one person become so twisted? I am part of a lot of rescue
groups and recently decided to look at Kris's blog on her rescue
myspace to see what she is up to these days. In the VERY FIRST post
she mentions the deaths of 3 bunnies. In less than 2 months? In a
small rescue there should never be that many deaths. ALSO, I looked
back further and to my SHOCK I found that she has lost probably 20
rabbits in less than a year and she has raised over 5K for their
care. How does this happen? How do people keep donating to her after
the downfall of the NJ branch? I just don't get it. Someone care to
enlighten me? Maybe someone should enlighten her donors.

ronie...@aol.com

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Sep 16, 2008, 4:28:54 PM9/16/08
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Ohh no - this is NOT the NJ LMRR! this is her NEW ONE IN TAMPA FL!
that damn collector started again in another state!

The one in NJ, her mom finally just about adopted out all but a few.
and now Kris has made a new mess! woe are the rabbits!

Ronie


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Beth Aylward

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Sep 16, 2008, 6:43:08 PM9/16/08
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because she is in a new area.. because new people don't know about her.

CrazyRabbitLady75

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Sep 16, 2008, 10:22:35 PM9/16/08
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On Sep 16, 6:43 pm, jerseybu...@webtv.net (Beth Aylward) wrote:
> because she is in a new area.. because new people don't know about her.

this may be true. But how can any logical person look at the death
tally and not wonder? Not to mention the heartless way she dismisses
the deaths. "sadly we lost so and so and so and so... but here is some
good news!" I don't know about you, but if I lost any animal, be it
mine or a foster I would be devestated. (thus the reason it's hard for
me to foster and I only do it in extreme cases... I have trouble
returning them LOL) But I just wonder how it doesn't raise some
serious red flags. It's all up there for everyone to see. Also, she
is either delusional or previous reports are wrong because why would
someone move to a different state and open a rescue under the same
name as the first if they were shut down for neglect and hoarding? It
doesn't make sense. Why is this allowed to continue?

Beth Aylward

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Sep 17, 2008, 3:09:18 AM9/17/08
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you can't maek any sense out of it. no matter how hard you try.. it's a
sad world.
i am still mourning pj's loss in feb...:(

Diva

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Sep 17, 2008, 12:03:14 PM9/17/08
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1. <disclaimer> Before I start the rest of this post, let me make
this clear: I don't know this Kris, I hve not connection or contact
with any of these "rescues", and what I am about to say are general
comments. </disclaimer>

2. In my clinical and forensic experience, people who do this kind of
animal hoarding have no insight whatsoever into the damage they are
doing. We recently had a case here in Long Beach with Noah's Ark
rescue in which the conditions were atrocious. The wonam running the
rescue believes [probably quite sincerely] that she was 'saving' these
animals wvwn though the vast majority of the many animals she had were
so sick from neglect that they really had to be euthanized. She is
facing time in jail or prison for animal cruelty and I honestly doubt
this will stop her, especially once she is off parole.

In another cat hoarding case here, a mother and daughter were going in
and out of court in various preliminary hearings after having been
found with at least 80 cats, the vast majority starving or near death
from other illnesses, as well as multiple cat carcassas. Their
apartment waevacuated and decontaminated. They had a temporary new
residence and a condition of their bail was NO ANIMALS. They were
very secretive and were found, during their bail, to again have cats
[multiple] in their housing during this period.

In other words, these compulsioins can get very serious and rigid and
you can't count on "common sense" to prevail.

3. If you are really concerned, you might contact the authorities in
her area and ask them to look into this situation, particularly given
her record. At least in California there are some legal means of
stopping this for a time and there may be some in Florida as well.

Cheers, Diva
off to go get paid for doing this kind of thing

RosL

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Sep 17, 2008, 12:17:35 PM9/17/08
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> <rabbitadvocat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >How does one person become so twisted?  I am part of a lot of rescue
> >groups and recently decided to look at Kris's blog on her rescue
> >myspace to see what she is up to these days.  In the VERY FIRST post
> >she mentions the deaths of 3 bunnies.  In less than 2 months?  In a
> >small rescue there should never be that many deaths.  ALSO, I looked
> >back further and to my SHOCK I found that she has lost probably 20
> >rabbits in less than a year and she has raised over 5K for their
> >care.  How does this happen?  How do people keep donating to her after
> >the downfall of the NJ branch?  I just don't get it.  Someone care to
> >enlighten me?  Maybe someone should enlighten her donors.

Here's her Yahoo group

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/HouseRabbitDiscussion/

Living in England, I had never heard of her and had innocently passed
on one of her messages to a friend. I was very shocked when I found
out the history.

Ros

CrazyRabbitLady75

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Oct 31, 2008, 12:47:17 PM10/31/08
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This is such a mess. I have been on her group in another name for
quite some time now. I have been so scared she was going to begin
hoarding again and then get in over her head again, and it appears she
has. I am going to post her email here, but let me make it clear. DO
NOT help this hoarder! I have heard word through the grapevine that
she has already had animal control called on her. How can a cop,
someone who is meant to uphold the law break it? I have been to her
myspace. Add up the many chipins she has run over the past year.
Almost 6 thousand dollars raised and she can't pay a vet $780? Why
does she even have an outstanding bill? Shouldn't all the money she
raises plus her own money be enough to get some animals spayed and
neutered? Add up the deaths on her page! Something isn't right.
Something needs to be done. How does she stay under the radar? Her
address is listed on the email but I am not going to list that as I am
not sure if it would break any terms of service. Isn't there anything
we can do? Even though most of us live really far away? A vet bill
of more than seven hundred dollars. Why would she take in even more
bunnies? 8 more. Poor bunnies.

Subject: [HouseRabbitDiscussion] Rescued Animals... Give me FIVE
minutes?


Friends and Extended Family of our Animal Rescue,
We know that times are rough for everyone right now - however, we
are concerned that with money and time in short supply, that those of
you who support our mission overlook the TINY things you can do that
help us so very much. Even $5 spent at the dollar store or Walmart on
cleaning products helps us imeasurably!

For the Locals: While Kristie, Ron and Frank spent countless hours
tearing the garage apart, cleaning everything and reorganizing, and
Kristie, Pam, Jeff, Sean, Gene, Val, Colin and Sarah spent weeks
building the new kennels - we need folks to help maintain. Cleaning
ALL the bunny condos now takes UNDER an hour once a week! Feeding and
watering all the bunnies takes approximately one half hour. As of
tomorrow, it will be SEVEN days since Kristie has had a single second
of help - she has worked 64 hours as a Deputy, and countless many more
with the bunnies - ALONE. Please find one hour a week, or every other
week, or once a month and let her know what you can commit to. We need
you more than ever.

We have taken in eight new bunnies this month, all of whom were in
life or death dire straights. We are still battling with Nathan's
mystery mushy poos, two of the new buns are underweight and Petey's on
daily injections for his ongoing eye infection.

We are down to a critically low number of foster homes. The
refrigerator is EMPTY of veggies. There is about three handfuls of the
last bale of hay, and 25 lbs of food left. We are low on towels, we're
missing EIGHT of our carriers that have been loaned out and not
returned and we desperately need new toys, small cardboard boxes,
wicker baskets to replace the ones that have been chewed and
destroyed. The vet bill still needs $780 to pay it OFF.

The newsletter, which usually raises significant donations cost
almost $160 to print and mail out - and not one single donation slip
was sent back. Not a single person sent an item from our wish list.
We're beside ourselves with need right now. We are taking in animals
from foreclosure and financial disaster - and we're heading into one
ourselves. Our electric bill is $350 a month, our phone/internet/
printer ink/stamps cost almost $150/month. We are down to half a
container of bleach and about three cups of laundry detergent. We have
one bag of litter left.
The rescue's bank account currently has $34.60 in it.
That's not even enough to get us through the week with food & litter.

PLEASE look at the list below, pick ONE item that you can afford, and
send it with love and our eternal gratitude to:
Little Miracles Rabbit Rescue

North Port, FL 34286

PLEASE forward this email to your friends, family, coworkers and
other animal lovers.

Want to donate online by credit/debit card? Simply go here:
http://www.littlemiraclesrr.org/donate.html

Want to purchase items online to ship to us? Try these EXCELLANT
stores:
www.oxbowhay.com
www.leithpetwerks.com
http://www.woodyswabbits.com/
www.americanpetdiner.com
http://www.bunnybytes.com/
www.petsmart.com
www.drsfosterandsmith.com


WE NEED: ** ASAP: BALES OF HAY, Bags of FOOD, VEGGIES **
-Walmart Gift Cards
-Home Depot Gift Cards
WE NEED CAT CARRIERS! We are down to SIX, and we REGULARLY transport
more buns than that.

Bleach, laundry detergent, STAMPS, bunny litter (any paper based / we
buy equine fresh from Tractor Supply!), LARGE bags of bunny food (any
brand that is NOT a "fiesta" mix), hedgehog food, chinchilla food,
chinchilla dust, cat food, trash bags, litter boxes of various sizes,
towels/blankets, BABY TOYS, bunny toys, plastic balls (cat toys, dog
toys, etc)

We have a RESCUE American Bull Dog named Pressley who Kristie rescued
off the streets while at work, whom she had neutered and paid for all
his shots. Pam helped foster him, but Pressley needs obedience
training, eats a TON, and needs supplies. If you have DOG SUPPLIES
(Food, etc) PLEASE let us know and send your spare dog stuff to the
rescue. We do occasionally have dog fosters, and we will put your dog
supplies to good use!

Do you have any of these strange Items that we need?
A shop vac, a cart on wheels (for moving around loads of carriers,
laundry, trash, etc), large rubbermaid bins, plastic pitchers, sheets
of plywood, drills (cordless and otherwise), carpet pieces


PLEASE take five minutes and think about what YOU can do to
help, because YOU alone can make a huge difference, even with a very
small donation. NO donation is *SMALL* when it's saving lives!

www.littlemiraclesrr.org
www.myspace.com/littlemiraclesrr

Forward this to TEN people in your address book who love animals. If
each person helps - imagine the lives we'll save together. Please
include a personal message to your friends - post this in your blog,
etc, etc.


terb...@aol.com

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Nov 1, 2008, 8:51:42 AM11/1/08
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Dont feel bad i did the same thing!!! Now i have to go back and email
everyone and tell them NOT to send anything..I'm grateful to Ronie for
telling me.. thanks Ronie.

Marylee and Domino the devilbun

terb...@aol.com

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Nov 2, 2008, 10:54:44 AM11/2/08
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Wait, the womans name is Pam, she said she helped get Domino to me!
I'm so confused!

ML

Professor

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Nov 3, 2008, 8:50:11 AM11/3/08
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Are you sure??

Professor, The Jump, Zolo, Wizard, & Magic Brenda

terb...@aol.com

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Nov 3, 2008, 3:23:08 PM11/3/08
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yes kristen is the one who is at the miracles place..

Professor

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Nov 3, 2008, 11:45:47 PM11/3/08
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Well, I'm sure glad you got Domino!
You may have "really" saved him. Maybe he knows!?!
Cool little guy. 8-)

CrazyRabbitLady75

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Nov 4, 2008, 8:51:28 AM11/4/08
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I don't know who pam is, but this thread is about the root of the
problem. Kris Corson. If Domino was a LMRR bunny he is truly
thankful. I am hoping you have this confused though.

terb...@aol.com

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Nov 5, 2008, 10:47:56 AM11/5/08
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Ok,,, I'm sorry guys. Domino comes from House Rabbit Network. It WAS
Pam who got Dom to me. SHE is the one who moved to Florida, NOT kris.
I'm finally clear on it after doing some investigating.
As for Kris at little miracles, I can't comment on her as I do not
know her. I DO know she still is up north and did NOT move.

Thanks for caring! I guess Domino has a brother named Confetti who
was also adopted out. Too bad I didn't know at the time. I would
have adopted him too. What a cute name! His foster mom fell in love
with him and ended up keeping him. If his personality is even close
to Dommy's, can't say I blame her. I totally lucked out with this
clown of a bunny. Thanks again for your love and support.

MARYLEE

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ronie...@aol.com

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Nov 6, 2008, 9:54:57 PM11/6/08
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<<<SHE is the one who moved to Florida, NOT kris>>>

No, kris is in FL too :( making problems for the west coast
rabbits. :(

here's the website - she advertises for one in NJ AND one in FL. how
sad. When do people grow up and learn? i hate horders!

ronie

terb...@aol.com

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Nov 8, 2008, 11:15:20 AM11/8/08
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I hate horders too! Ohh. thanks.. i'm sorry i got so confused about
all of this.. Kris and Pam dont talk to each other.. so pam says...
Wow.. i didnt know Kris is also in florida!!!
ENd of story... thanks
ML

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