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what greens do the people in the UK feed their rabbits?

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Amber Ormerod

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Aug 26, 2004, 4:09:33 PM8/26/04
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After coming back from hospital my bunnie put himself on a green and hay
diet - hey saved me the hard work. I have been using the lists from various
sites but coming up against translation problems - we have winter greens and
they have collard greens? Cilantro = Coriander etc etc.
I was trying to find if what we call Chinese cabbage is safe and what else
people use here, cos a few trips about and there is not the variety that
there is listed about to buy in the UK. I have worked out a field of
dandelions might actually get him litter trained!


amber

Eloise & Ellie

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Aug 26, 2004, 5:24:55 PM8/26/04
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Hi Amber

I'm in the UK, so might be able to help a little. I've given Ellie
Chinese cabbage - it's fine to give, but Ellie wasn't too keen on it.
She only ate a small amount, so I've not really bothered with it
since. So, Ellie's vegetable drawer in the fridge lists thus:

Lettuce - flat leafed or curly leafed
Watercress
Romaine lettuce - either the green or ruby-leafed
Carrot tops
Lollo Rosso lettuce
Chickory
Pak choi (or bok choi)
Radish tops
Parsley (very small amounts)
Mint (very small amounts)
Rocket
Lambs lettuce

She's also very partial to the 'bagged salads' available at
Tesco/Morrison/Asda, etc, though obviously, feed in moderation!

Hope that helps!

Bunny hugs

Eloise & Ellie

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:09:33 +0100, "Amber Ormerod" <ne...@dryad.org>
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Steverddrf

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Aug 26, 2004, 5:44:14 PM8/26/04
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>From: "Amber Ormerod" ne...@dryad.org

>I have been using the lists from various
>sites but coming up against translation problems - we have winter greens and
>they have collard greens? Cilantro = Coriander etc etc.
>I was trying to find if what we call Chinese cabbage is safe and what else
>people use here, cos a few trips about and there is not the variety that
>there is listed about to buy in the UK.

Several of the mystery veggies on the lists are varietys of Chicory which seem
to be grown in the USA as fodder crops.
Chinese cabbage / Chinese lettuce is fine for bunnys and both of mine get a
leaf a day of it, it is not however the same as Bok Choy, the nearest to Bok
Choy available in the UK seems to be Pak Choy.

I feed Romaine, Chinese, Broccoli, Parsnip, Spinich, Curly Kale, Parsley,
Coriander, and Celary on a daily basis.
When available I also feed carrot tops radish tops, milk thistle, and
dandylion.

The top shelf of the fridge is however for my use, and a block of ice cream
will just fit between the pair of 2 liter bottles of water in the ice box :)


What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?

Is there another word for synonym?

«. .»

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Aug 26, 2004, 7:58:50 PM8/26/04
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in article 2p6us0F...@uni-berlin.de, Amber Ormerod at ne...@dryad.org
wrote on 26/8/04 9:09 pm:

> I was trying to find if what we call Chinese cabbage is safe and what else
> people use here, cos a few trips about and there is not the variety that
> there is listed about to buy in the UK. I have worked out a field of
> dandelions might actually get him litter trained!

Hi Amber,

If you can get out into the countryside, you have it sorted!!

I go out and pick for my buns once a week and bring back about 2xcarrier
bags full of various wild plants including milk thistle, grape vine leaves,
apple leaves, yarrow, dandelion, clovers, plantain, bramble shoots, mallow,
knapweed, vetch, sea beet, orache, wild fennel, shperd's purse, horseradish
leaves, good-old-fashioned grass, and anything else I know is okay for them.
The greens keep for ovre a week in a tied carrier bag in the fridge - I am
seriously going to get them their own fridge, as my tiny fridge-freezer
compartment is no way big enough for my stuff and theirs.

I am dubious about supermarket veg.
Veg for humans has been tailored for human palates... sweeter (more sugars),
less fibre, far more water. Wild plants have a great deal more fibre, are
dryer, chewier, offer a range of textural interest, and are far closer to a
wild bun's diet.

Not only that, but I object to the growing ethics of supermarket veg and the
pressures put upon the producers. I notice they don't keep a week or more in
my fridge either!!! and they are herbs and veg, same as my organic wild
greens.

I was corresponding with a bun owner who has an ongoing excess caecal
problem. I suggested (since it was the only thing she hadn't yet tried) that
she might like to cut out the shop veg (carrots, broccoli, spring greens,
etc) for a few days just to see what happened.

Magically, the bun was normal after 24 hours.... no more EC's. Now I wonder
about shop veg even more....

Sue
& the Currant Machines
& the horde of fancy rats
Portsmouth, England, UK


Professor

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Aug 26, 2004, 11:42:49 PM8/26/04
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You may be onto something!

«. .» wrote:
> I was corresponding with a bun owner who has an ongoing excess caecal
> problem. I suggested (since it was the only thing she hadn't yet tried) that
> she might like to cut out the shop veg (carrots, broccoli, spring greens,
> etc) for a few days just to see what happened.
>
> Magically, the bun was normal after 24 hours.... no more EC's. Now I wonder
> about shop veg even more....

--
8-) Professor :-P Merlin & ;-) The Jump

Amber Ormerod

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Aug 27, 2004, 3:45:26 AM8/27/04
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"Eloise & Ellie" <vik...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi Amber
>
> I'm in the UK, so might be able to help a little. I've given Ellie
> Chinese cabbage - it's fine to give, but Ellie wasn't too keen on it.
> She only ate a small amount, so I've not really bothered with it
> since. So, Ellie's vegetable drawer in the fridge lists thus:
>
> Lettuce - flat leafed or curly leafed
> Watercress
> Romaine lettuce - either the green or ruby-leafed
> Carrot tops
> Lollo Rosso lettuce
> Chickory
> Pak choi (or bok choi)
> Radish tops
> Parsley (very small amounts)
> Mint (very small amounts)
> Rocket
> Lambs lettuce
>
> She's also very partial to the 'bagged salads' available at
> Tesco/Morrison/Asda, etc, though obviously, feed in moderation!
>

so not feeding lettuce to rabbits is an urban myth?

How come parsley small amounts?


Amber Ormerod

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Aug 27, 2004, 3:47:15 AM8/27/04
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"Steverddrf" <steve...@aol.commotion> wrote in message
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> When available I also feed carrot tops radish tops, milk thistle, and
> dandylion.
>

Milk thistle? I willhave to look that one up.

> The top shelf of the fridge is however for my use, and a block of ice
cream
> will just fit between the pair of 2 liter bottles of water in the ice box
:)
>
>

Luckly we have a giant fridge!


Amber Ormerod

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Aug 27, 2004, 3:52:44 AM8/27/04
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"«. .»" <floyd-eat...@nasty-pink-meat.com> wrote in message
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Excess caecel? How do you spot that cos don't they just eat them straight
off?
I did give up rocket after some sticky messes on the floor - not me the
bunnie!

Well I did goto Asda last night in desperation to get some stuff. Most the
stuff I get is from the Farmers markets or small local farms here in
Hampshire. I grow all the parsley myself and was going to do some others
like carrot tops and beet tops etc myself. Maybe its time to ge a bontany
book, back to the old Biology days!

Carrie Lyons

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Aug 27, 2004, 7:21:38 AM8/27/04
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Amber, I am in the UK also,
Personally, I feed my guys the following

Kale
Brocolli
Savoy Cabbage
Tons of parsley
Carrot tops
Thyme
Mint
Basil
Greens
The outside cabbage leaves
Bok Choy
Fennel
Gem Lettuce
Sweetheart Lettuce
Banana
Necterine
Peach
Stawberries
Apple

All these are available from Asda, sainsburys and Tesco's, as well as my
local farm shop who think we crazy feeding veggies to bunnies when they
have spent all season trying to stop the wild bunnies eating them.

They are kind enough however to save veggies that are "mis-shaped" and
give them to us for free. For example, the had some corgettes come out
very oversized and gave us a carrier bag full for nothing. (whilst
stating that they still think we are nuts to come in and spend £20 on
veggies that we won't eat ourselves. LOL) They are a south african
couple and say that over there bunnies are just considered Vermin. I
think they have a soft spot for us though.

We also feed ReadiGrass. Which is available at most good feed stores.

Also, dandilions
Fresh grass
and other safe wild plants.


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email carriephlyons at btinternet dot com

bisk...@hotmail.com

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Aug 27, 2004, 11:17:41 AM8/27/04
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In article <2p889hF...@uni-berlin.de>,
Amber Ormerod <ne...@dryad.org> wrote:

> > She's also very partial to the 'bagged salads' available at
> > Tesco/Morrison/Asda, etc, though obviously, feed in moderation!
>
> so not feeding lettuce to rabbits is an urban myth?

Mostly, yes.

There are still those who will talk about iceberg lettuce being bad,
but many other lettuces are fine.

bisky

Amber Ormerod

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Aug 27, 2004, 12:10:31 PM8/27/04
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"Carrie Lyons" <carrddieddd...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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cool i was going to ask why cabbage wasn't on the list cos it seemed a cheap
option.

our farm shop sells rabbit ;-( (minus the skin)


Michele Satanove

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Aug 27, 2004, 12:48:05 PM8/27/04
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Careful with that cabbage, Amber. It is one of those veggies that affect
many rabbits, giving them gas. Broccoli and kale can also be problemmatic,
but in my experience, cabbage is the only one that I can't use with my
bunnies.

Michele
Tibs, Tika, & Zamboni
Todd-the-Dog
Maxi & Mandi


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Amber Ormerod

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Aug 27, 2004, 2:05:42 PM8/27/04
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"Michele Satanove" <ms...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Careful with that cabbage, Amber. It is one of those veggies that affect
> many rabbits, giving them gas. Broccoli and kale can also be problemmatic,
> but in my experience, cabbage is the only one that I can't use with my
> bunnies.
>


thanks!


Carrie Lyons

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Aug 28, 2004, 7:41:15 AM8/28/04
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Amber Ormerod wrote:

> cool i was going to ask why cabbage wasn't on the list cos it seemed a cheap
> option.
>
> our farm shop sells rabbit ;-( (minus the skin)


It is OK to feed in small amounts, but it can cause gas in some bunnies.
Personally I have never had a problem with this.

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