Cockatiel prefered sleeping position
Fred
tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the
feeding bowl. (Its feet are gripping the perch).
Hence it has three-point support and does not need to hold balance all
night just on its legs alone.
Personally I can sympathise with this situation because I would not
wish to sleep standing up and balancing on my feet all night.
Can anyone relate how their cockatiel likes to sleep, please ?
I would like to know how nature prefers to work in this matter.
Thanks in advance,
Fred.
Pizza Girl.
bars fro cockatiels.
"Fred" <Fr...@nilspam.co.uk> wrote in message
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ZQ
> Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify horizonatl
> bars fro cockatiels.
>
WTF? So you believe that "they" specify horizontal bars for 'tiels
because yours likes to sleep while clinging to the side of the cage?
ZQ
Pooty Lizard
Mine squat in the water dishes which cradle their bodies perfectly. Of
course in the morning the water needs to be changed ASAP as it has
become fecal soup.
Fred
Many thanks to my respondents (so far).
Looking on the Web I have found a number of references to cockatiels'
sleeping habits. It seems they are very ideosyncratic and are likely
to have various preferences for their sleeping postures.
I would remark that a cage (or even an aviary) is obviously an
artificial environment to which the bird must adjust. Especially so
since they are genetically programmed to live in the Australian
outback.
Yesterday I provided my cockatiel with its special "bed". This
comprises a standard seed box which hangs on the bars. I modified the
box by cutting back the plastic in order to lower the height of both
ends of the box. Inside the box I put some foam rubber.
Last night the bird accepted its new bed and slept soundly, so far as
I know.
Fred.
Pizza Girl.
Horizontal bars are specified, always, for cockatiels.
Check it out.
"ZQ" <trin...@fasogho.com> wrote in message
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Tony Roggenkamp
sometimes in the middle of a perch. Never seems to use a support.
What I find is strange is that in the afternoon it will sit near me with it
head turned 180 degrees and buried in its back. I think this is because she
feels safe. Yet at night her head is always facing forward.
tony
"Fred" <Fr...@nilspam.co.uk> wrote in message
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Tiels R Cool
"Pizza Girl." <nos...@5.me> wrote in message
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> Always clinging to the side of the cage. This is way they specify
horizonatl
> bars fro cockatiels.
>
it clings to the side sometime before nite nite time it will perch on it, it
may take a day or two, the bird may even move to a different spot in the
cage, move the perch to wherever it goes, it needs to perch, I have over 70
tiels and none of em cling to the cage to sleep, I have rescued ones that
have and have done what I told you, they will perch, its in thier nature,
they need to also lift a leg if so desired to regulate thier body heat, im
sure you know a content tiel will tuck its head in it's back, if they never
do so it is tense and your bird is not completly at ease with its
surroundings.
TRC
Tiels R Cool
"Tony Roggenkamp" <tony...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Mine sleeps at night fully upright, sometimes near the bars of the cage,
> sometimes in the middle of a perch. Never seems to use a support.
>
> What I find is strange is that in the afternoon it will sit near me with
it
> head turned 180 degrees and buried in its back. I think this is because
she
> feels safe. Yet at night her head is always facing forward.
>
> tony
>
in its sleeping area its not to sure of, do you cover it ? if not, try it.
Tony Roggenkamp
"Tiels R Cool" <journeym...@velocity.net> wrote in message
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I put Cindy in another room with the door shut to keep her in the dark. You
may be right (although she does not seem afraid in that room during the
day).
Thanks for the advise, I will try it tonight.
Regards,
tony
Pizza Girl.
The fact that my 'tiel clings to the side of the cage
or
The fact that any books on 'tiels recommend horizontal bars?
"Tiels R Cool" <journeym...@velocity.net> wrote in message
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GWB
It is a series of connected rings, about 4" radius.
Tiels R Cool
Horizontal bars are best, wings dont get trapped or broken blood fleathers
as easily as vertical or a round cage as well. I do still stand behind what
I said about the perching. Peace
TRC
Pizza Girl.
"Tiels R Cool" <journeym...@velocity.net> wrote in message
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NanK
Is this the highest spot in your cage?
If so, try adding a perch in a high corner (make sure bird's crest and
tail feathers clear any toys and bars). The higher location will
encourage your bird to use that spot.
Good luck.
n
Fred
No, it is not the highest point in the cage.
If the bird is denied the opportunity to find three-point support for
sleeping, then he will take a position on the perch and balance there
all night. So it is a question of the bird's *preference*.
I am reluctant to make too many assumptions. Perhaps if I went to
Australia to observe cockatiels roosting in a coolibar tree, I might
find they seek convenient forks in the branches where their tail-end
can find support at night-time.
I am continueing to make experiments and hoping to produce the world's
first "Cockatiel Commode". This will comprise a kind of "bed"
incorporating sanitory facilities, hence the bird's faeces can drop to
the bottom of the cage when he feels the call of nature during the
night.
Regards,
Fred.
Pizza Girl.
sleeping.
Yes/No?
"Fred" <Fr...@nilspam.co.uk> wrote in message
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!:?)
wrote:
Hello Pizza Girl,
The cages in the USA have Vertical Bars in the Tiel Cages.
I don't see any other than Vertical Bars for Tiels and Parrots.
Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are
the missing link between both.
It makes sense since they could get their wings caught in Horizontal
Bars.
I used to Breed and raise Pigeons and ran into that problem with a
small outdoor Pen with rectangle Bars that were Horizontal.
They caught their wings often in the Bars and when I enlarged the Pen
I used the same Wire to 8x8x8 outdoor Pen but I changed it to Vertical
Bars for the rectangle.
It made a difference.
The cage I have now for my Tiels is 4 feet by 4 feet by 3 feet with
vertical bars now.
Smaller one has normal Vertical Bars.
But I don't lock my birds up at all and they have the run of the room,
so they don't spend that much time in the Cages.
I assume you don't live in the USA and wonder if there is a difference
in the Cages between the USA and Europe.
BTW my Birds are 25 and 10 so they don't have the panic attacks
younger ones do and a Solar Powered Night Light that recharges the
Batteries during the Day or with Lights on.
I'm just interested in the difference between Cages in the US and
elsewhere.
Just because it's the norm here doesn't make it right.
Kevin
Pizza Girl.
I have a cage about 2.5 x 3 x 4 feet and (can't remember where) always was
told horizipntal bars for 'tiels and vertical for budgies. My tile sure
knows how to do the bar release slide down on the verticals though. Actually
my cage has both. Horizontal mainly on the sides and vertical mainly on the
front and back. He sleeps clinging to the sides. This is why I figured the
horizontal bars are a prerequisite for 'tiels.
Now ya' got me curious. Need more input.
"!:?) " <NoS...@My.Email.Address.Is.Invalid.com> wrote in message
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!:?)
wrote:
Hi,
Ya it hit me the same way.
I got a catalog for a big surplier for Breeders that's been around for
decades and they suggest vertical Bars for that reason.
When they sweep their Wings out it's Horizontal and can catch in the
Bars but Vertical won't catch.
I was wondering if Europe was different after seeing your Posts.
I know he was kidding you but from what I have here it is opposit from
whay you have.
In all stores like Petco and Petsmart and others here they have Cages
like that.
Also I have a Catalog from that Breeder Supplyer I will post the Addy
to when I find it again that sells Cages the same way.
(Kind of late here and wife is sleeping.)
That's the Supplyer I was going to buy the 12x12x6 outdoor Cage to put
outside the window here from.
Kevin
ZQ
> Nope.
>
You're contradicting yourself. It must be because you know you're a moron.
> Horizontal bars are specified, always, for cockatiels.
>
No they're not. They are however, recommended for 'tiels quite often.
ZQ
ZQ
>
> Horizontal bars are best, wings dont get trapped or broken blood fleathers
> as easily as vertical or a round cage as well.
WTF does the shape of the cage have to do with anything?
ZQ
ZQ
>
>
> Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are
> the missing link between both.
>
> Kevin
Did you pull this information out of your ass? Did you make up the word
"bungine" or did some other moron give you reason to believe it means
something?
ZQ
Pizza Girl.
Good luck with that. You will need it.
"ZQ" <trin...@fasogho.com> wrote in message
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Pizza Girl.
"ZQ" <trin...@fasogho.com> wrote in message
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Pizza Girl.
Nobody is a piece of shit like ".Haress" (last known nick out of over 500
so far)
"ZQ" <trin...@fasogho.com> wrote in message
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!:?)
I don't believe it, a Troll, here of all places !
Where have you been hiding?
Up your Arse ?
Some argue they are Bungies and others argue they are Parrots.
There are VALID arguements for BOTH !
Some books I've read suggest they are the only link left between the two
types.
Thus, the missing link.
You need to brush up on your Social Skills!
Kevin
!:?)
I got the catalog.
Morton Jones.
www.ramonamall.com/mjones.html
They sell all kinds of Cages for Birds, Rabbits, Minks and other Anamuls.
And they are not expensive either. !:?)
Kevin
!:?)
Oh no,
Fred she may eat the Foam Rubber !'
I don't think that's a good idea.
Shred some News Paper and fill it with that or something else.
I think others will have something to say about that Foam too.
Kevin
!:?)
Hi Pizza,
Killfile the Troll, I did.
It, what ever it is, is not worth your time, there are many other nice
people out here.
BTW Fred put Foam Rubber in a small nest for his Bird !
What if she EATS IT !
Kevin
Fred
In the UK many cages appear to be imported from Italy.
See, for example:
http://www.ukparrotcages.co.uk/cockatiels.html
http://www.safariselect.co.uk
Fred
!:?)
>>
>>Kevin
>
>In the UK many cages appear to be imported from Italy.
>
>See, for example:
>
> http://www.ukparrotcages.co.uk/cockatiels.html
> http://www.safariselect.co.uk
>
>Fred
Hi Fred,
I'm worried about the Foam Rubber you said you put in the Cage.
What if she EATS IT ?
Shreded Newspaper or something like that I think would be better.
Ask others here before you leave that Foam in there and don't take
just my word for it.
I say this because there's a Troll I ran into here of all places and
already Killfiled him.
He may give you bad advice.
Kevin
Pizza Girl.
chance I guess.
"!:?)" <NoS...@Invalid.com> wrote in message news:43123...@x-privat.org...
!:?)
Hi,
The Foam could be toxic to Chew let alone Eat and even the Fumes could
be harmful !
We can't know what type of Rubber Foam it is.
Not a chance I would want to take with my Birds.
I hope he removed it for now until he gets more info on it.
Kevin
Ž
[fixed ya post for ya ButtWipe]
>"ZQ" <trin...@fasogho.com> wrote in message
>news:1125232395.b52c000d3fa387c022d49346dd73a0aa@teranews...
>> !:?) wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Tiels can be classified as either Parrots or Bungines since they are
>> > the missing link between both.
>> >
>>
>> > Kevin
>>
>>
>> Did you pull this information out of your ass? Did you make up the word
>> "bungine" or did some other moron give you reason to believe it means
>> something?
>>
>> ZQ
>
>Tazhole. You can run but you cannot hide.
>
>Nobody is a piece of shit like ".Haress" (last known nick out of over 500
>so far)
>
>
..doan confuse your guests GymmyB0B//Pizza Girl//Piezzo Guru// JP Bengi
They may well leave your table. Winter is coming and you will be needing all the
suckers you can find.
I was wondering why you were so quiet,, all over UseNEt,, and took a swing by
here,,an lo' n beholT..!
Here yo is in your Hula Skirt feeeding up Dolly Girl sausage!!
Chomp it down Folks...he has plenty of it..!
<guffaw>
Whomsoever this is:
$$$$From: ZQ <trin...@fasogho.com>
$$$$User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317)
$$$$X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
Keep at it bloke,, yall doin a great job. This arsewipe sweats on the fact no one
looks beyond the page in front of them..and he *will* sneak up on you in another
dress,, believe that..!
I am *not* saying "kick the bastard out of the group"..uh uh.. these types are best
left where you can find them , easy <g>
What I am saying is "be aware".
For the thing that really gets his rocks off ,,is in getting a response that
indicates the OP *believes * his BS and his "smoke"...THAT is what is important to
him.. Like he will have a hard-on that would keep a piranha in Chew for a year after
reading <Kevins> replies to his little trolls.
..........so ZO,, keep reminding one and all of the truth and we can all have some
fun..even GymmyB0B..!...who I have named GimmeButt...ROTFLMAO
oh...and you will be nominated a "nutcase status" IF you object or point out the
REAL TROLL to anyone :->>>>>>>>>
cYa
Have fun now :-)
<python>
here is some history on the Troll:
http://tinyurl.com/avvuk
http://tinyurl.com/a7rzk
http://tinyurl.com/ey5u8
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From: "Gymmie Bob" <NoT...@notspam.com>
Subject: Re: Bernina Question
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:41:38 -0500
Message-ID: <FcCdncBKSJt...@golden.net>
Gee I am really hurt...especially coming from such a "quick to get nasty"
bitch.
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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 22:15:49 -0500, "Gymy Bob" <nos...@bight.me>
wrote:
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:50:04 -0500
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You are a complete moron
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I am a complete Troll in the nth dgreee.
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[Gymmy Bob masquerades as a TAZ clone]
Subject: Oh taz - fisting-of-the-east[1].jpg (0/1)
From: "taz likes to suck dick (@yahoo.com)" <taz sucks cock>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:27:19 GMT
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you have your hand up his ass again
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Be thankful you got a response to that publication [LOOSE USE].
Ž
>I say this because there's a Troll I ran into here of all places and
>already Killfiled him.
>
>He may give you bad advice.
>
>Kevin
>
..me thinks u have been had..u feel that throbbing in your arse?
Its the Gymmy B0b Troll,,,, feeding you sausage...gobble it up,, theres a good boy!
<ROTFLMGDAO>
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Fred
I think the bird liked the foam rubber, but it filled-up with sh*t
overnight. So I have now removed it and cut-out the entire bottom of
the box. Instead of the rubber I have attached 6 plastic-covered
wires across the box to support the weight of the bird, if necessary.
This was only yesterday, and the bird ignored the modified box last
night. It slept with its feet on the wooden perch, but again with its
tail supported by a (different) seed box.
It really doesn't wish to balance all night, for which I can hardly
blame it.
The Troll to which you refer doesn't really conform to the definition
of a real Troll, in my view. Just a silly kid messing around.
Regards,
Fred.
NanK
>
> It really doesn't wish to balance all night, for which I can hardly
> blame it.
If your bird is unable to balance on a perch to sleep, it is probably ill.
n
Pizza Girl.
current male doesn't like to stand on a perch. He would rather be flat
footed on a flat surface or clung to the side of something.
"NanK" <an...@enter.net> wrote in message
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!:?)
Give her time and she may use it again.
Glad you removed the Foam.
If it was toxic she could have gotten sick eating or from the fumes.
Their systems are more sensitive than our and wouldn't take much.
Can you tell if she has something wrong with her feet?
Maybe she cut them and hasn't healed right or something stck in them
like a splinter.
It's a long shot but something has to explain that.
My male is getting old (25) and sometimes he's almost blind to what's in
from of him.
Other times he's fine.
Taking him to vet again soon for a checkup.
Vet's on vacation.
Kevin
ZQ
WTF is a bungie or bungine or whatever the fuck you keep talking about?
btw - whatever else a cockatiel is, it is also a parrot as are any and
all of the hookbilled birds people keep.
ZQ
ZQ
>
>
> I don't believe it, a Troll, here of all places !
>
> Where have you been hiding?
> Up your Arse ?
>
and another btw - I've been around these bird groups regularly for over
nine years. I've been hiding nowhere. If you bothered to famaliarize
yourself with the group before putting your ignorance on display you'd
be well aware of who I am and how little tolerance I have for idiots
like you.
ZQ
huckhead
NanK
In response to this statement:
"btw - whatever else a cockatiel is, it is also a parrot as are any and all
of the hookbilled birds people keep."
huckhead wrote: "Eagle?"
SUMMARY OF RESPONSE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE SCIENCE BELOW:
Eagles are falcons with CURVED bills; Parrots are Psittaciformes with
HOOKED bills.
------------------------------------------
EAGLE
SCIENTIFIC CLASSIFICATION
COMMON NAME: bald eagle
KINGDOM: Animalia
ORDER: Falconiformes
DESCRIPTION: Mature adults have a white head and tail, solid brown
body, and a large, curved, yellow bill. Juveniles have blotchy patches
of white on their underside and tail.
DIET: Prefers fish swimming close to the water's surface; also feeds on
small mammals, waterfowl, wading birds, and dead animal matter (carrion)
-----------------------------------------------
PARROT
Psittaciformes
* Family: Loriidae
* Family: Cacatuidae
* Family: Psittacidae
(Greek: psittakos = "parrot")
Range: tropical and subtropical band, a few temperate
* sexes usually alike
* diagnostic characteristics: round head with rounded, hooked beak
and mobile upper mandible plus zygodactyl toes (2 forward, 2 back)
* the only birds that hold food in one foot to eat
* primarily vegetarian, often opening heavy nuts
* plumage usually bright colors, often with powder down
* loud, often raucous voices often good at mimicry
* most are cavity-nesters
* 2 almost flightless
* nearest relatives are thought to be pigeons
* some authorities put them as distant relatives of cuckoos, others
call their resemblance convergence...
n
Pizza Girl.
"ZQ" <trin...@fasogho.com> wrote in message
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huckhead
samm...@gmail.com
goo...@windycityparrot.com
> My cockatiel appears to seek a sleeping position in which its
> tail/rear end is supported by an object, such as the rim of the
> feeding bowl. (Its feet are gripping the perch).
>
> Hence it has three-point support and does not need to hold balance all
> night just on its legs alone.
>
> Personally I can sympathise with this situation because I would not
> wish to sleep standing up and balancing on my feet all night.
>
> Can anyone relate how their cockatiel likes to sleep, please ?
> I would like to know how nature prefers to work in this matter.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Fred.
