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Marshall

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Oct 24, 2001, 3:27:04 PM10/24/01
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Hi all:

I need some advice. I have been baby sitting my neighbors pet parrot
on and off for the past year (family problems require them to travel).

'Bird' is starting to smell more & more 'birdy...' (pungent)

I have given him several water baths, which haven't helped much.
I have a couple mild dog shampoos. Could I use them safely on bird?

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AJ Riley

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Oct 24, 2001, 3:47:38 PM10/24/01
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heavens NO!! Dog shampoo would probably kill fleas and be fatal to the
parrot.
I bet it's not the parrot that you are smelling, it is most likely the cage.
The
bottom of the cage can normally be slid out and taken outside and washed
then put some newspaper down in there just to see if it gets rid of the
smell.
At any rate, I hope I don't have to tell you how much parrots cost and if
you kill
it or do anything to harm it (such as shampooing it) they would probably sue
you for the cost of the parrot. If the bird really does smell then it must
be
sick and you should inform the owner it needs medical attention.


Beej

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Oct 24, 2001, 8:13:00 PM10/24/01
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If the bird in question is an Amazon - then the smell is part of the bird.
All Amazons 'smell' in varying degrees, some are extremely pungent and
others give off a mere 'whiff'. While some people find their odour
offensive, many more love the musky scent they give off. If the bird is an
Amazon, then all the bathing in the world isn't going to change the smell.
B


Dawn

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Oct 24, 2001, 8:50:04 PM10/24/01
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<< I need some advice. I have been baby sitting my neighbors pet parrot on and
off for the past year (family problems require them to travel).
'Bird' is starting to smell more & more 'birdy...' (pungent) >>

You didn't say what type of parrot, it just may be the bird. All birds have
their own "smell".
You could blindfold me, & I could tell you which bird was which.
My MSC2 smells like baby powder, the CAG's smell like, hmmm, a CAG, and my B&G
has that special macaw kinda musty smell. My Rio is a VERY clean bird, he loves
to take showers, so its not a dirty bird smell.
Gotta luv 'em !!

""Birds are like potato chips, betcha can't have just one!""
Dawn, Baby, Izzy, Gabby, Rio, & ~Pierre~
Human- MSC2- CAG- CAG- B&G- & ~MOL~


owly

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Oct 24, 2001, 11:50:48 PM10/24/01
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Or the musty scent of my beautiful pionus parrots :).

I've never smelled an amazon...I love the smell of my CAG though!

owly

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> You didn't say what type of parrot, it just may be the bird. All birds
have
> their own "smell".
> You could blindfold me, & I could tell you which bird was which.
> My MSC2 smells like baby powder, the CAG's smell like, hmmm, a CAG, and my
B&G
> has that special macaw kinda musty smell. My Rio is a VERY clean bird, he
loves
> to take showers, so its not a dirty bird smell.
> Gotta luv 'em !!


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oldmolly

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Oct 25, 2001, 8:46:51 AM10/25/01
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I think amazons smell like flowers. Its a beautiful smell.
If something smells bad it might be that the cage and food and water pots
need a thorough clean.

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David Jepson

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Oct 26, 2001, 9:32:18 AM10/26/01
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All,

There are bird shampoos out there though. Our Grey gets a bath once a week
and we shampoo her about once a month just to cut down some of the powder.
She seems to like it and looks much better after its done. I don't mind the
musty smell of the bird but it does cut down the powder.

Our avian vet told us its a good idea to shampoo every once in a while
because the powder tends to build up and can clog the glands. I guess they
don't need as much in a house as opposed to the wild?? I don't know.

Our avian vet also told us that Johnson's baby shampoo is pretty much the
same thing as the shampoo sold for birds. We have been using this for 2 yrs
with no problems.

So none of you shampoo your birds?

-David


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Jack IP

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Oct 26, 2001, 11:45:03 AM10/26/01
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David Jepson wrote in message <9rbog7$1pca$1...@genma.iac.net>...

You mean you've been using the baby shampoo or the bird shampoo for 2 yrs?
So how do you do it? You foam the bird up and hose him after?

JaCK

oldmolly

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Oct 26, 2001, 4:47:20 PM10/26/01
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David, your avian vet is talking out of a hole in his backside. There is
nothing wrong with the dust, they need it in their feathers. A warm misting
every other day will help keep the dust down and it will not clog up any
pores. Either your vet is a twit or you are telling fibs. I have never ever
heard of anyone shampooing their birds. The action of rubbing the shampoo in
might damage the feathers.

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d.krug

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Oct 27, 2001, 3:05:34 PM10/27/01
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"oldmolly" <oldmolly@YOURTEETH@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> David, your avian vet is talking out of a hole in his backside. There is
> nothing wrong with the dust, they need it in their feathers. A warm
misting
> every other day will help keep the dust down and it will not clog up any
> pores. Either your vet is a twit or you are telling fibs. I have never
ever
> heard of anyone shampooing their birds. The action of rubbing the shampoo
in
> might damage the feathers.
>
> --
Oldmolly, consider now that you have heard of someone using shampoo on a
bird. When we got our U2, the previous owner had put vaseline on her wings
to prevent the bird from biting her feathers. The bird hadn't been bathed or
misted in approximately 9 years. The vet advised us to try and bathe her and
that it would be alright to use a dilute mixture of baby shampoo on the
soiled parts of her wings. We did not shampoo the entire bird and we made
sure to rinse and rinse again. Once she was clean, we had a very beautiful
bird.

--
Debbie, Dusty(CAG) and Casperella(U2)


David Jepson

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Oct 27, 2001, 4:01:26 PM10/27/01
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Oldmolly,

>>Either your vet is a twit or you are telling fibs.

Our avian vet came very highly recomended from several other parrot owners
in our area. And, given my interaction with him, I would hardly call him a
"twit".

So that must mean that I'm a liar?

Tact is free, try it some time.

With all due respect, I'd rather take the advice of my avian vet who is well
regarded in our area than someone like you. If you've "never ever heard" of
anyone using shampoo on a bird, then why is it readily available at our bird
supplies shop? This would imply to me that we're not the only people that
use it.

In all your experience with birds, you've never heard of this? hmmm

For what its worth, when we shampoo Emma, we do use a diluted solution and
only a drop. We do this gently with the grain of her feathers, and rinse it
afterwards cupping water in our hands and sprinkling it on her. She doesn't
mind this process at all.

We have tried to spray her with warm water from a bottle and she goes nuts.
I'm sure this is just my inadequacy as a bird handler, but if she'd rather
accompany me in the shower, thats fine with me.

Next time we visit the vet for a check-up, in Nov, I will ask him to confirm
his instructions as I have already done with the place we purchased our CAG.
My goal is to do what ever is best for our bird, if the vet has any
additional comments/instructions, I will be sure to post them here.

-David


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KMT

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Oct 27, 2001, 9:32:55 PM10/27/01
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oldmolly wrote:

> David, your avian vet is talking out of a hole in his backside. There is
> nothing wrong with the dust, they need it in their feathers. A warm misting
> every other day will help keep the dust down and it will not clog up any
> pores. Either your vet is a twit or you are telling fibs. I have never ever
> heard of anyone shampooing their birds. The action of rubbing the shampoo in
> might damage the feathers.
>

There are products sold to shampoo a bird. I would assume by this that people do
shampoo their birds. I have never shampooed my CAG, yet I have read that it is
all right to use a mild shampoo once in a while. It wouldn't surprise me if you
were against shampooing birds, but, it does surprise me that someone who
supposedly 'takes in' birds would not have heard of it. If you have "never ever"
heard of it, then maybe you should read more about birds before taking more in?

Petco has an article about bathing that is relevant:
"You will not normally use any kind of shampoo or detergent to bathe your bird;
in fact, shampoo will remove the natural oil she has carefully applied during
preening, so it should only be used if your bird has come into contact with oily
or greasy substances."
http://www.petco.com/pet_care_article.asp?tab=0&subtab=0&articleID=24&categoryID=6

A bird shampoo sold online:
http://www.kingscages.com/sprays.htm#shampoo

A shelter/rescue group that lists a need for shampoo:
http://www.altpet.net/Rescue/MD.html

Pamala Fillion

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Oct 27, 2001, 11:32:52 PM10/27/01
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The only time my vet will tell me to shampoo a parrot is if it falls into
oil, then you don't have a choice. The powder on them is important. Just
wash them with a mist a couple of times a week. That's what I do and when I
want to give her a deep clean I bring her in the shower with me until she is
soaked. I gently rub her under her wings, where the powder gland is (forgot
the name), along the rump and her bum. The powder comes off and then she's
all shiny and soft. If I were you I would change vets, a vet that tell's you
to shampoo a parrot does not have avian knowlegde. I don't know about dogs
but I do know that your not supposed to shampoo them every week. Just take
care who you consult, for the safety of your feathered friend and to avoid a
broken heart.
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Marco

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Oct 28, 2001, 8:11:26 PM10/28/01
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I don't know what kind of flowers are you smelling, oldmolly! :) When we first
got our red lored amazons they smelled like sweaty old socks! Yuck! After a few
showers the 'stench' went away... but still, once in a while... you can still
smell the "boys lockerroom" aroma :). Our scarlet macaw smells like ... hmmm..
spicy and our U2 smells like baby powder. And our puppy smells like Zupreem
pellets (his fav. treat! LOL).

Marco

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