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His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher
Mar 31, 2011, 3:06:16 PM3/31/11
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On Mar 31, 1:02 pm, Foo Fighter <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <fa59a958-9be9-4c3a-853a-2b0930507...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 9:58 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:38:09 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
>
> > > Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > > > As I was watching this program about the evolution, I realized that the
> > > > same difference in brain size that exists between monkeys and homo sapiens
> > > > could be the one that exists between homo sapiens and Christians, assuming
> > > > Christians are a different species.
>
> > > I think you've confused "Christian" with "Liberal"
>
> > In America Christian means Conservative. They refuse new ideas and
> > oppose any liberal initiative out there.
>
> > They voted en masse for Bush and generally oppose Obama, however timid
> > his initiatives are. For example, he should promoted the Single Payer
> > universal healthcare system and end of story. Germany --the pioneer in
> > universal healthcare-- has a mixed system that also makes sense. Obama
> > though --in order to compromise-- ended up with an expensive and
> > complicated system that now the Conservatives are attacking with low
> > balls such as the "Death Panels"...
>
> > Hey, Euthanasia makes a lot of sense but Obama is far from daring to
> > go that far...
>
> >http://pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/death-panel-obamac...
>
> > Liberal humanist societies don't have a problem with that as they as
> > they don't have a problem over people smoking marijuana or having
> > abortion. Of course, nobody is promoting that either, but education is
> > the best medicine. The Christians, though, have the practice of
> > wanting the child to be born and then deny him decent healthcare --
> > such as Bush did. Not a Christian blinked in protest. Hey, they even
> > reject the First Lady for educating the people to be healthy. They
> > insist on being fat and dumb.
>
> > As I said, smaller brains.
>
> and;
> In article <2u29p693cjvtg592kvg4pv6vfcqqcoq...@4ax.com>,
> Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Perhaps conservatives realize that their attractiveness is dependent
> > on ignorance at many levels and of many kinds:
>
> > ignorance of the Constitution;
>
> > ignorance of the benefits that unionization has brought to so many
> > people;
>
> > ignorance of the importance of science and technology in the modern
> > world;
>
> > ignorance of their own ignorance.
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-lakoff/the-republican-ignorance-_....
> > html
>
> > 3/30/11
>
> > The Republican Ignorance Agenda
>
> > By Robin Lakoff
>
> > Conservative Republicans have been very busy lately making inroads
> > into teaching and learning at all levels -- a curious program,
> > especially at a time when more serious voices have been urging America
> > to strengthen its investment in science and technology in order to
> > remain globally competitive in the twenty-first century.
>
> > One wonders what their oppositionism is really about.
>
> > Let me summarize a bit of this interesting record:
>
> > Congressional Republicans have fought to reduce pre-kindergarten (Head
> > Start) funding.
>
> > Conservatives in various arenas have been whittling away at the
> > prestige, authority and autonomy of elementary and high school
> > teachers.
>
> > The denial of the right to collective bargaining, the destruction of
> > security of employment, demands to take classroom decisions out of
> > teachers' hands and create a national curriculum, forcing teachers to
> > teach to tests whose subject matter bears no relation to what future
> > generations of Americans will need to know, allowing school buildings
> > to deteriorate in the interests of "no new taxes," carrying banners at
> > rallies identifying teachers as "glorified babysitters" - all these
> > work to encourage contempt for those who teach in those who need to
> > learn, and to make mediocrity the norm.
>
> > (Does anyone believe that "the best and the brightest" will want to
> > become teachers under these working conditions?)
>
> > At the university level, we have seen many disquieting moves over the
> > last several years.
>
> > ..............................................................................
> > ..........
>
> > Scholarship at all levels has been devalued and impugned by the deep
> > thinkers of the Right.
>
> > Conservatives have cast doubt on science -- from evolution to climate
> > change -- on no rational basis at all other than that it isn't in the
> > Bible or they just plain don't like it.
>
> > Their inability to grasp the ideas of postmodernism has proven no
> > deterrent to their making fun of its questioning of the absolute
> > certainty of all scientific claims (does anyone detect an irony
> > here?).
>
> > Generally, the conservatives' aim seems to be to reassure their
> > constituencies that you don't have to know anything to be an expert.
>
> > All you have to do is yell louder than anyone else.
>
> > The above is certainly depressing.
>
> > ..............................................................................
> > ..............
>
> > Does that list represent something planned, deliberate, and coherent?
>
> > Perhaps conservatives realize that their attractiveness is dependent
> > on ignorance at many levels and of many kinds:
>
> > ignorance of the Constitution;
>
> > ignorance of the benefits that unionization has brought to so many
> > people;
>
> > ignorance of the importance of science and technology in the modern
> > world;
>
> > ignorance of their own ignorance.
>
> > If education is respected and strong, if teachers are autonomous,
> > authoritative, and respected, ignorance cannot survive.
>
> > If ignorance cannot survive, groups that thrive on it will not do
> > well.
>
> > Do the math.
>
> > ______________________________________________
>
> > Harry
>
> are you saying Ignorance is Not Bliss?
> ;)
> In article
> <fa59a958-9be9-4c3a-853a-2b0930507...@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
>
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 30, 9:58 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:38:09 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
>
> > > Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
>
> > > > As I was watching this program about the evolution, I realized that the
> > > > same difference in brain size that exists between monkeys and homo sapiens
> > > > could be the one that exists between homo sapiens and Christians, assuming
> > > > Christians are a different species.
>
> > > I think you've confused "Christian" with "Liberal"
>
> > In America Christian means Conservative. They refuse new ideas and
> > oppose any liberal initiative out there.
>
> > They voted en masse for Bush and generally oppose Obama, however timid
> > his initiatives are. For example, he should promoted the Single Payer
> > universal healthcare system and end of story. Germany --the pioneer in
> > universal healthcare-- has a mixed system that also makes sense. Obama
> > though --in order to compromise-- ended up with an expensive and
> > complicated system that now the Conservatives are attacking with low
> > balls such as the "Death Panels"...
>
> > Hey, Euthanasia makes a lot of sense but Obama is far from daring to
> > go that far...
>
> >http://pumabydesign001.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/death-panel-obamac...
>
> > Liberal humanist societies don't have a problem with that as they as
> > they don't have a problem over people smoking marijuana or having
> > abortion. Of course, nobody is promoting that either, but education is
> > the best medicine. The Christians, though, have the practice of
> > wanting the child to be born and then deny him decent healthcare --
> > such as Bush did. Not a Christian blinked in protest. Hey, they even
> > reject the First Lady for educating the people to be healthy. They
> > insist on being fat and dumb.
>
> > As I said, smaller brains.
>
> and;
> In article <2u29p693cjvtg592kvg4pv6vfcqqcoq...@4ax.com>,
> Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Perhaps conservatives realize that their attractiveness is dependent
> > on ignorance at many levels and of many kinds:
>
> > ignorance of the Constitution;
>
> > ignorance of the benefits that unionization has brought to so many
> > people;
>
> > ignorance of the importance of science and technology in the modern
> > world;
>
> > ignorance of their own ignorance.
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-lakoff/the-republican-ignorance-_....
> > html
>
> > 3/30/11
>
> > The Republican Ignorance Agenda
>
> > By Robin Lakoff
>
> > Conservative Republicans have been very busy lately making inroads
> > into teaching and learning at all levels -- a curious program,
> > especially at a time when more serious voices have been urging America
> > to strengthen its investment in science and technology in order to
> > remain globally competitive in the twenty-first century.
>
> > One wonders what their oppositionism is really about.
>
> > Let me summarize a bit of this interesting record:
>
> > Congressional Republicans have fought to reduce pre-kindergarten (Head
> > Start) funding.
>
> > Conservatives in various arenas have been whittling away at the
> > prestige, authority and autonomy of elementary and high school
> > teachers.
>
> > The denial of the right to collective bargaining, the destruction of
> > security of employment, demands to take classroom decisions out of
> > teachers' hands and create a national curriculum, forcing teachers to
> > teach to tests whose subject matter bears no relation to what future
> > generations of Americans will need to know, allowing school buildings
> > to deteriorate in the interests of "no new taxes," carrying banners at
> > rallies identifying teachers as "glorified babysitters" - all these
> > work to encourage contempt for those who teach in those who need to
> > learn, and to make mediocrity the norm.
>
> > (Does anyone believe that "the best and the brightest" will want to
> > become teachers under these working conditions?)
>
> > At the university level, we have seen many disquieting moves over the
> > last several years.
>
> > ..............................................................................
> > ..........
>
> > Scholarship at all levels has been devalued and impugned by the deep
> > thinkers of the Right.
>
> > Conservatives have cast doubt on science -- from evolution to climate
> > change -- on no rational basis at all other than that it isn't in the
> > Bible or they just plain don't like it.
>
> > Their inability to grasp the ideas of postmodernism has proven no
> > deterrent to their making fun of its questioning of the absolute
> > certainty of all scientific claims (does anyone detect an irony
> > here?).
>
> > Generally, the conservatives' aim seems to be to reassure their
> > constituencies that you don't have to know anything to be an expert.
>
> > All you have to do is yell louder than anyone else.
>
> > The above is certainly depressing.
>
> > ..............................................................................
> > ..............
>
> > Does that list represent something planned, deliberate, and coherent?
>
> > Perhaps conservatives realize that their attractiveness is dependent
> > on ignorance at many levels and of many kinds:
>
> > ignorance of the Constitution;
>
> > ignorance of the benefits that unionization has brought to so many
> > people;
>
> > ignorance of the importance of science and technology in the modern
> > world;
>
> > ignorance of their own ignorance.
>
> > If education is respected and strong, if teachers are autonomous,
> > authoritative, and respected, ignorance cannot survive.
>
> > If ignorance cannot survive, groups that thrive on it will not do
> > well.
>
> > Do the math.
>
> > ______________________________________________
>
> > Harry
>
> are you saying Ignorance is Not Bliss?
> ;)
Yes, the ignorant is not hurt by what he doesn't know. For example,
don't expect a rat to feel remorse over killing a mouse. And they do
it all the time!
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