rabies and distemper question
daug3
Recently, on a trip down to my mother's house, I called her vet to see if
they handled ferret vaccinations. they said they did. I didnt get into their
rabies shots, but they told me they give both canine and feline distemper
shots to ferrets.....I though i was only to get the canine...anybody heard
of this?
thanks....
kat...@infinet.com
and Imrab 3 for rabies. Each needs to be repeated annually.
KG
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Imrab 3 for rabies
If your vet is using other shots then -besides possible giving your
ferrets the disease or just not protecting them at all- this is CLEARLY
not someone who is experienced enough with ferrets. You should find
someone who is.
-Melissa
swamp
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>
>kat...@infinet.com wrote:
>
>> You don't want to give your ferret canine shots. Fervac-D for distemper
>> and Imrab 3 for rabies. Each needs to be repeated annually.
>
>rather my ferrets got *canine* shots than feline. Feline distemper shots
>will do nothing to protect ferrets from distemper, and canine shots do work
>- as long as the vet doesn't give a shot specifically stating 'not for use
>in ferrets' (which some do) Some areas you only have a choice between canine
>and feline, Fervac and Galaxy aren't available everywhere, although it would
>be nice if they were.
It's known that ferrets and dogs are both susceptible to the
same strains of distemper virus, while ferrets and cats
probably aren't. If your only options are canine/feline,
you're making the right decision by using the generic canine
vaccines.
>
>Since I can't get Galaxy or Fervac here at all I tend to go for puppy/canine
>shots. Note, in most places - except this country it seems!! LOL - you can
>get shots for distemper ONLY - please use these shots rather than the shots
>for dogs which cover *many* problems. Why risk reactions to a vaccine they
>don't need?
You're not alone. Rabies hasn't made its way onto many of
the "island" nations, so it wouldn't make much sense for you
guys to inoculate against it.
>
>It's great knowing what vaccines are approved (anyone heard word as to when
>the proposed Imrab distemper vaccines may or may not be released/approved
>for ferrets??) but not everyone can get the 'proper' ones.
Imrab(-3) is strictly a rabies vaccine. I haven't heard of
any research being done on Galaxy-D or the other distemper
vaccines. If ferrets continue to rise in popularity, someone
will front the money for a study.
>
>Sam
swamp
"Who, me officer? What's a ferut? These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."
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have a "ferret" vaccine....(geez am i showing my age here?) that our vet
would give them canine distemper vaccines.
I know theres a difference between live and killed vaccines...but im too
lazy to go read which one is the one suitable for ferrets. Im guessing
killed. BUT, if you're in the states, you should be able to get a
veterinarian that carries FerVac. Sam of course is exempt from this, since
she lives in some strange foreign land. LOL!!! Just messin with you Sam!
Kim
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Ferrethavn <ferre...@aol.comferts4me> wrote in message
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> >ello to all
> >Recently, on a trip down to my mother's house, I called her vet to see if
> >they handled ferret vaccinations. they said they did. I didnt get into
their
> >rabies shots, but they told me they give both canine and feline distemper
>
> Hi Daug3
>
> The feline vaccine is useless for ferrets, as they are not susceptible to
the
> feline version of distemper. There are two versions of canine distemper
> vaccines available in the US for ferrets - one approved for use in ferrets
> (Fervac-D) and one with off-label use (Galaxy-D). I am not sure what the
brands
> are that are used overseas, but care must be used not to vaccinate with
any
> ferret-based vaccines - this will *give* the ferret distemper.
>
> As far as rabies vaccines are concerned, there is currently only one for
use in
> ferrets in the US : Imrab-3.
>
> Any vaccinations given should be followed up with staying at the vets
office
> for a minimum of 30 minutes, in case of reaction. I also recommend not to
give
> the rabies and distemper shots at the same time, but to separate by two
weeks.
>
> HTH.....
>
>
> Lisa, Head Ferret
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Sam
kat...@infinet.com wrote:
> You don't want to give your ferret canine shots. Fervac-D for distemper
> and Imrab 3 for rabies. Each needs to be repeated annually.
Matter of interest, if it's a choice between canine and feline, I'd far
rather my ferrets got *canine* shots than feline. Feline distemper shots
will do nothing to protect ferrets from distemper, and canine shots do work
- as long as the vet doesn't give a shot specifically stating 'not for use
in ferrets' (which some do) Some areas you only have a choice between canine
and feline, Fervac and Galaxy aren't available everywhere, although it would
be nice if they were.
Since I can't get Galaxy or Fervac here at all I tend to go for puppy/canine
shots. Note, in most places - except this country it seems!! LOL - you can
get shots for distemper ONLY - please use these shots rather than the shots
for dogs which cover *many* problems. Why risk reactions to a vaccine they
don't need?
It's great knowing what vaccines are approved (anyone heard word as to when
the proposed Imrab distemper vaccines may or may not be released/approved
for ferrets??) but not everyone can get the 'proper' ones.
Sam
Ferrethavn
Sam
> Imrab(-3) is strictly a rabies vaccine. I haven't heard of
> any research being done on Galaxy-D or the other distemper
> vaccines. If ferrets continue to rise in popularity, someone
> will front the money for a study.
I'd heard (and whether it's true or not is definitely up to debate!) that Imrab
was testing a distemper vaccine. That was around August last year. Whether
something went wrong in testing, if it's still being tested, (if they've even
thought about it and I'm mistaken) or what <shrug> Would be nice to have another
approved vaccine around though.
Sam
swamp
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>swamp wrote:
>
>> Imrab(-3) is strictly a rabies vaccine. I haven't heard of
>> any research being done on Galaxy-D or the other distemper
>> vaccines. If ferrets continue to rise in popularity, someone
>> will front the money for a study.
>
>I'd heard (and whether it's true or not is definitely up to debate!) that Imrab
>was testing a distemper vaccine. That was around August last year. Whether
>something went wrong in testing, if it's still being tested, (if they've even
>thought about it and I'm mistaken) or what <shrug>
"Imrab" is the name of a rabies vaccine developed and tested
by Rhone-Merieux Inc. back in the early '90s. Dogs and cats
were challenged yearly and showed enough resistance after
three years that NASPHV (US) approved its use trianually,
thus the name Imrab-3. Ferrets weren't included in the
challenge.
Fervac-D, Galaxy-D and other distemper vaccines also show
high VNA titers after 3 years, but until studies are
conducted they can't be approved here. ymmv down south.
>Would be nice to have another
>approved vaccine around though.
Yes. Some day...
Sam
> "Imrab" is the name of a rabies vaccine developed and tested
> by Rhone-Merieux Inc. back in the early '90s. Dogs and cats
> were challenged yearly and showed enough resistance after
> three years that NASPHV (US) approved its use trianually,
> thus the name Imrab-3. Ferrets weren't included in the
> challenge.
With the reactions of some ferrets to vaccinations, it would be nice if it applied
to ferrets also.
> Fervac-D, Galaxy-D and other distemper vaccines also show
> high VNA titers after 3 years, but until studies are
> conducted they can't be approved here. ymmv down south.
Yup, I know :o) however, I was under the impression that Rhone-Merieux were looking
at making a distemper vaccination as well. (and I have a memory like a sieve, so
didn't remember *Rhone Merieux*, just *Imrab* - hey, same thing <G> LOL) I
remembered this specifically because Rhone-Merieux meds do get into New Zealand, so
a distemper vac from them that's approved for ferrets would be an added bonus :o)
Sam
daug3
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out of you
swamp
<fan...@iname.comREMOVE> wrote in
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>Yup, I know :o) however, I was under the impression that Rhone-Merieux were looking
>at making a distemper vaccination as well. (and I have a memory like a sieve, so
>didn't remember *Rhone Merieux*, just *Imrab* - hey, same thing <G> LOL)
Eh, Imrab, RM, what's the difference? The nice thing about a
bad memory is that you can blame it for your screw-ups. I do
it all the time. Speaking of which, RM has become Merial
Ltd., Galaxy-D is now made by Schering-Plough, and Fervac-D
*is* approved for annual use in ferrets.
>I
>remembered this specifically because Rhone-Merieux meds do get into New Zealand, so
>a distemper vac from them that's approved for ferrets would be an added bonus :o)
Hmm. I talked to a doctor at Merial who said she'd heard no
news of a distemper vaccine, and then to a DVM at S-P who
said they had no plans to get Galaxy-D approved for use in
ferrets. Oh well, I guess approval doesn't matter much as
long as it works.
There's a Schering-Plough distributor in your area, btw:
Schering-Plough Animal Health Limited
33 Whakatiki Street
Upper Hutt
Wellington
New Zealand (gotta love those Kiwi addresses!)
Phone: 528-1900
Fax: 528-1909
Free Phone (for ordering): 0800 800 543
Contact Name: Chris O'Leary
Business Hours: 8:00a.m. to 5:00p.m.
http://www.sp-animalhealth.com/intl/pacificrim/zealand.htm
KiSta Ferret Rescue
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en like the beginning of "end"
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Sam <fan...@iname.comREMOVE> wrote in message
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> swamp wrote:
>
> > Hmm. I talked to a doctor at Merial who said she'd heard no
> > news of a distemper vaccine, and then to a DVM at S-P who
> > said they had no plans to get Galaxy-D approved for use in
> > ferrets. Oh well, I guess approval doesn't matter much as
> > long as it works.
>
> Darnit, must've been wishful thinking <sigh>
>
> > There's a Schering-Plough distributor in your area, btw:
> >
> > Schering-Plough Animal Health Limited
> > 33 Whakatiki Street
> > Upper Hutt
> > Wellington
> > New Zealand (gotta love those Kiwi addresses!)
>
> GREAT!! Thanks, now, with a freephone number I can even call them ;o) and
I'll see if I
> can get a better vaccine than mine currently receive.
>
> BTW, my favourite thing about NZ addys - no zip codes!! YAAAAYYY hehehe
I've often
> wondered what the zip code for my area is, but face it, if you don't need
it why bother?
> <snigger> and the Maori placenames... good luck pronouncing them :o) I
think I've kinda
> got the hang of it, but lots of people have trouble saying my hometown -
how would you
> say "Whangarei" ?? <G>
>
> Sam
>
Sam
swamp
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> how would you
>say "Whangarei" ?? <G>
Hah! I wouldn't even dare to try. Go pick on Kim. ;)
Melissa
<fan...@iname.comREMOVE> wrote:
> - how would you
> say "Whangarei" ?? <G>
Wan GAR ee?
-Melissa
Sam
> > - how would you say "Whangarei" ?? <G>
>
> Wan GAR ee?
Well, you were close! LOL 'WH' is pronounced as "F" the vowels are all
'short', 'NG' is similar to "saNG" and 'EI' is pronounced "AY" So, it's
more like FARNG-ah-RAY or FUNG-ah-RAY (depending on your accent <G>)
Sam
Melissa
"F" part? Never would have clued into that in a million years! LOL!
-Melissa
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Sam
> I was going to guess an "aye" sound at the end instead of "ee". But that
> "F" part? Never would have clued into that in a million years! LOL!
<snigger> I know :o) And they say that Maori is one of the easier languages
to learn <G>
Having said that I haven't a clue how to speak or actually *understand* the
Maori language, but hey, at least I'm getting closer on the pronunciation LOL
Sam