Lost Ferret - Any Suggestions?
jynxmom
position can give some tips we may not have thought of yet.
We have "lost" a ferret, as in she has literally vanished from our house.
We've had 3 ferrets for a couple of years, and lost one to illness last
winter despite much vet intervention & lots of help and suggestions from
people in this group. Anyway, since then we've gained 3 ferrets to our
gang, all given to us by people who could no longer care for their ferrets
for one reason or another.
Yesterday morning, during their outside cage time, all 5 were in full "rip &
tear" mode. Pino, our tiniest ferret, and by far the most skittish ferret
I have ever seen, turned up missing when it was time to go back in the cage.
Pino is afraid of any sound or sudden movement. She has only been with us 4
months, and has slowly come to trust us and would come onto the couches
looking for treats and cuddles. She is almost always the first one back
in the cage, before it is even time, and mostly preferred the safety of the
cage to the outside world after she had gotten her treats.
We immediately looked everywhere we could think of that she has hidden in
before. We carefully turned all the furniture upside down, just in case,
and looked in any nook and cranny. Our downstairs is all an open floor
plan, and we have a steel gate across the stairs to the upper floors. It
is a possibility she figured out how to circumvent the stair guard, but so
far none of the other ferrets have been able to, and not for lack of trying.
We took everything out of the cupboards, even though they are all on a
safety latch of some sort, and have even moved out the kitchen appliances.
No sign of her anywhere.
During the initial time she was missing, no one had come into our out of the
house, but we did the squeeky toy and rattling the treat box routine outside
just in case. She has always come for the rattling treats before.
We are beside ourselves with worry. We have gotten down on our hands and
knees, and have searched every crack and crevice in the house, upstairs and
down. We had central air put into the house last year, and had a fairly
thorough search for holes and cracks done prior to that with all of them
repaired then.
It is just like she has vanished off the face of the earth. We had seen
her just a few minutes before putting the others away, so she hadn't been
missing that long. I know without actually seeing our house, it will be
hard to give any relevant advice, but if anyone who's been in this situation
before has any hints or suggestions, they'd be appreciated. We're
leaving water and food out in various places of the house, just in case. I
just can't imagine if she's anywhere she could get out of, that she hasn't
made an appearance by now. And that scares me even more.
I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. I know that they can get
themselves into the tiniest of places, but perhaps someone who's had more
years' experience with their habits will have something we haven't thought
of.
Thanks for any help - even if it's just positive thoughts for us.
Jeannie
Lloyd Olson
"jynxmom" <jynxm...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, this may get a little long, but am hoping someone who's been in this
> position can give some tips we may not have thought of yet.
> I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. I know that they can get
> themselves into the tiniest of places, but perhaps someone who's had more
> years' experience with their habits will have something we haven't thought
> of.
>
> Thanks for any help - even if it's just positive thoughts for us.
>
> Jeannie
I was given a ferret and made it about a day and a half before it figured a
way out of it's cage. I put down water in a few places so she could find it.
Left her cage open and put some ferret treats in her food, in hopes she might
get hungry and come home.
After a few days I'd about given up hope. Then I decided to place a small dish
with ferret treats in the basement. I figured if the treats disappeared then
I'd know she was still alive. I turned to go back upstairs when I saw a flash
of fur. She ran into a pile of boxes to hide. I coaxed her out and picked her
up. She clung to me, looked very tired and hungry, and maybe a little
terrified. I held her and petted her, and gently left her go back into her
cage. She climbed into her hammock for a nap.
I was very fortunate to have her back. Maybe this will give you some ideas or
hope.
And if you are sure your ferret is still in the house, maybe have the others
play in different areas, maybe she'll turn up and want to join in or they may
lead you to her. LTG :)
Bill Leary
this
> position can give some tips we may not have thought of yet.
I see other suggested furnature. We've learned from ours that there are
often ways into couches and chairs that aren't obvious. One of our couches,
for example, have ways to get in at the very edges of the joint between the
back and the seat. Holes just about ferret sized.
One of the old ones we had had pleated cushions, with the pleats running
horozontally. There was a gap between the lowest row of pleats and if you
reached up in there (or as the ferrets learned climbed up there) there was
an opening the full length of the couch into the back and thence into the
entire interior. Once we discovered that one we got rid of the couch
because the way the springs were set up if a ferret were in the bottom and
someone sat down heaviily there was a good chance they'd injure or even kill
the ferret.
- Bill
jynxmom
once again a happy family!
Somehow Pino got out into a storage area outside our side house door. It
sort of serves as a mud room, and my husband leaves his working shoes
outside the door at night. Saturday morning, his shoes were moved into 2
different places in the storage area. Well, we all know what ferrets like
to do with shoes! So we filled a dish with Pino's favorite food and
treats, and left it out there, along with the pet carrier and her favorite
blanket. Within a few hours, after quietly opening the door several times
and checking, we caught her at the food dish and coaxed her to us by
rattling her favorite treat canister.
She appears to be in good health, but was very dirty. The other ferrets
all fussed over her and it was several hours before they would settle down
for their naps. We have spent the last 24 hours filling in any little
crack or crevice that gives even the smallest appearance of being an escape
route.
On top of all this, my computer hard drive, which is a mere 1 year, 3 months
old (and warranteed for 1 year, of course) died a sudden and irrecoverable
death. So it was off to the office supply store to spend more money on
another set up. No dull life around here!
Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions and help.
Jeannie
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Brian
> On top of all this, my computer hard drive, which is a mere 1 year, 3 months
> old (and warranteed for 1 year, of course) died a sudden and irrecoverable
> death. So it was off to the office supply store to spend more money on
> another set up. No dull life around here!
>
Glad to see you found the missing ferret. Did you buy a whole new
computer? Or just a new HD? Are you running Windows XP? It looks like
your version of OE needs an update if you are.
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Brian
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Jason
"Jim Higgins" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:18:21 -0400, in
>
> You didn't mention looking inside furniture she might be able to
> get into
Yes, she did. Try paying attention to what your reading.
Bill Leary
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> Thanks to everyone for their suggestions and positive thoughts. We are
> once again a happy family!
Excellent news.
> Somehow Pino got out into a storage area outside our side house door.
> It sort of serves as a mud room, and my husband leaves his working
> shoes outside the door at night.
> ((..omitted..))
Right, shoes. Only one of ours was ever actually small enough to hide in a
shoe, and that my son's work boots. Or light enough that you wouldn't
notice it when you picked the shoe up to move it. But she did do it a
couple of times. However, she was something of a comedian and would come up
and either lick your fingers or try to climb your arm right after you picked
the shoe up. But they all do like to play in them, as much of themselves as
they can shove in them.
- Bill
Brian
>>It sort of serves as a mud room, and my husband leaves his working
>>shoes outside the door at night.
>>((..omitted..))
>
> Right, shoes. Only one of ours was ever actually small enough to hide in a
> shoe, and that my son's work boots. Or light enough that you wouldn't
> notice it when you picked the shoe up to move it. But she did do it a
> couple of times. However, she was something of a comedian and would come up
> and either lick your fingers or try to climb your arm right after you picked
> the shoe up. But they all do like to play in them, as much of themselves as
> they can shove in them.
I don't think she meant the missing ferret was sleeping in the shoes, I
believe the ferret was moving the shoes. I have a ferret who is
infatuated with shoes and would drag them off into another room.
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Brian
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Bill Leary
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> I don't think she meant the missing ferret was sleeping in the shoes, I
> believe the ferret was moving the shoes. I have a ferret who is
> infatuated with shoes and would drag them off into another room.
I'd taken the description to mean that she'd gotten out of the house by
hiding in one of the shoes, since in the original message they said that no
one had gone in or out between the time they last saw the ferret and they
noticed it was missing. Perhaps I've put 2+2+2+2 together when I should
have just added 2+2.
Jeannie?
- Bill
Lars
It seems more likely that while everyone else was adding 2+2 and getting 4,
you were trying to add 2+apples and getting 坏人???. It didn't get out of
the house you fucking ignoramous. She found it in the mud room.
"Somehow Pino got out into a storage area outside our side house door.
It sort of serves as a mud room," and then she said "Saturday morning, his
shoes were moved into 2 different places in the storage area." Let's see
here. The ferret is still in the house and some shoes have been moved
around. Do you really believe that the ferret was removed from the house
while hiding in a shoe that is still in the house?
It's stupid fucking people like you that piss me off. You go on and on
about stuff you haven't got a fucking clue about because you are unable to
comprehend the simplest of statements. The worst part is that you are so
damn dense that you don't have a clue that you are such a dumb fuck.
Jason Lars
Randy W. Sims
> It seems more likely that while everyone else was adding 2+2 and getting 4,
> you were trying to add 2+apples and getting 坏人???. It didn't get out of
> the house you fucking ignoramous. She found it in the mud room.
> "Somehow Pino got out into a storage area outside our side house door.
> It sort of serves as a mud room," and then she said "Saturday morning, his
> shoes were moved into 2 different places in the storage area." Let's see
> here. The ferret is still in the house and some shoes have been moved
> around. Do you really believe that the ferret was removed from the house
> while hiding in a shoe that is still in the house?
>
> It's stupid fucking people like you that piss me off. You go on and on
> about stuff you haven't got a fucking clue about because you are unable to
> comprehend the simplest of statements. The worst part is that you are so
> damn dense that you don't have a clue that you are such a dumb fuck.
I see absolutely no justification for this tantrum. If you can't be
civil, please be quiet.
Regards,
Randy.
GOOD GOLLY MISS mOLLY
"Lars" <Larsol...@williamguido.com> wrote in message
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> It's stupid fucking people like you that piss me off.
And yet you are powerless to resist the urge to read the posts here and
reply in your own unique, if boringly repetitious language?
jynxmom
she got out into the storage area, but the shoes in question are always left
outside the house door in the storage area. My husband wears these shoes
every day at work, so it was just that they had been "ferreted away" from
their usual resting spot outside the door that we had the major clue she was
out there somewhere. It is possible that she either got out the door at
any point after we'd spent hours searching the house and finally had to
leave for work (on any of the given days) or that she had found an escape
route we are unaware of. We have filled in any possible gaps, even if
they appeared to be way too small for a ferret (is there such a thing as too
small for a ferret?).
And, Brian, I ended up getting a new computer tower that came with Windows
XP installed. I was not really at my best when I was hooking everything
up and installing my old programs, and I accidently reloaded an old version
of OE, which I realized yesterday afternoon when I tried to send some other
mail and got lots of warning messages. It's always a learning curve with
these computers!!! And for some reason, I have to learn everything the
hard way.
Pino is back to her full "hit and run" mode - she likes to hide and then
come dashing out of nowhere, attack one of the other ferrets and then take
off like a shot. 5 ferrets, 5 totally different personalities in my house!
Jeannie
"Brian" <ho...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Brian
> Oh, goodness, I didn't mean to start an argument.
You didn't start an argument; the troll is "trying" to start one though.
But that little kid is easily ignored.
> And, Brian, I ended up getting a new computer tower that came with Windows
> XP installed. I was not really at my best when I was hooking everything
> up and installing my old programs, and I accidently reloaded an old version
> of OE, which I realized yesterday afternoon when I tried to send some other
> mail and got lots of warning messages. It's always a learning curve with
> these computers!!! And for some reason, I have to learn everything the
> hard way.
Wasn't OE already on the computer? It's part of Windows XP.
--
Brian
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jynxmom
I am embarrassed to admit that Idid subconsciously know OE was built into
XP, but it is also on the same disk from which I had to re-load my Microsoft
Word program, and I failed to pay attention while loading the disk and let
it go to town with everything. Which, of course, made my work even harder
in the end. Sigh........ I am forced to admit I'd gotten somewhat lax
in my backup routine - figuring I had a fairly new top of the line hard
disk, and a fairly new Dell computer, I was safe, right?
For anyone's future benefit, according to Maxtor, if you turn on your
computer and all it makes is a chirping, musical sound somewhat like a cell
phone ringing, you might as well start warming up all the four-letter words
you know, cause you're going to need them.
Jeannie
"Brian" <ho...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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dennis dewalt sr.
I too thought that she had gotten into the shoes before they were put in the
mud room. Can we say "In DESPERATE NEED of anger management courses"???
Give the guy a break. If anyone is a morone it's you for being a complete
ass about this. The most IMPORTANT thing is that the poor little thing was
found and is doing great now. The details about it really doesn't matter.
Take a chill pill
Pam
"Randy W. Sims" <ran...@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
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MC
Generally speaking, Microsoft will not let you retrograde OE or IE.
MC
Brian
> Geez that was way too much for crying out loud. When I FIRST read the post
> I too thought that she had gotten into the shoes before they were put in the
> mud room. Can we say "In DESPERATE NEED of anger management courses"???
> Give the guy a break. If anyone is a morone it's you for being a complete
> ass about this. The most IMPORTANT thing is that the poor little thing was
> found and is doing great now. The details about it really doesn't matter.
> Take a chill pill
>
You all are getting upset because of a troll. Just ignore the comments
it made.
JL
"Randy W. Sims" <ran...@thepierianspring.org> wrote in message
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fuck you for encouraging these fuckwits to remain fuckwits.
JL
"dennis dewalt sr." <sarge...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Geez that was way too much for crying out loud. When I FIRST read the
post
> I too thought that she had gotten into the shoes before they were put in
the
> mud room.
So you are a fucking brain dead loser too. So what?
> Can we say "In DESPERATE NEED of anger management courses"???
in desperate need of anger management courses. Yep, I can say it.
> Give the guy a break.
Far too many people already have. He has had a lifetime of people giving
him a break which has resulted in the twit you are now defending.
> If anyone is a morone it's you for being a complete
> ass about this.
What the fuck is a marone you fucking moron.
> The most IMPORTANT thing is that the poor little thing was
> found and is doing great now. The details about it really doesn't matter.
> Take a chill pill
>
> Pam
The details do not matter. What matters is that you people do nothing about
the morons around you for fear that you'll be discovered as one of the
morons.
JL
If you have a problem with it, why are you propagating the thread?
JL
> jynxmom wrote:
>
> > Oh, goodness, I didn't mean to start an argument.
>
> You didn't start an argument; the troll is "trying" to start one though.
> But that little kid is easily ignored.
>
So easily ignored in fact that you felt the need to have to tell people to
ignore me.
JL
> Brian,
>
> I am embarrassed to admit that Idid subconsciously know OE was built into
> XP, but it is also on the same disk from which I had to re-load my
Microsoft
> Word program, and I failed to pay attention while loading the disk and let
> it go to town with everything.
>
>
That's a shit load of a lie if I ever heard one. Why lie about such an
inane thing? You only look like a bigger ass for it.
JL
"MC" <M...@ProgressiveSystemsInc.org> wrote in message
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> I really doubt you installed an older version of OE on the computer.
> Generally speaking, Microsoft will not let you retrograde OE or IE.
>
> MC
>
The only reason to lie about such a thing is to make yourself look like a
dumbfuck, and she certainly has succeeded.
Bill Leary
> Oh, goodness, I didn't mean to start an argument.
You didn't. Most of us are having a conversation about a lost ferret. One
is doing something else.
> We are not sure how she got out into the storage area, but the
> shoes in question are always left outside the house door in the
> storage area.
OK. So I did read that she was outside the house.
> My husband wears these shoes every day at work, so it was
> just that they had been "ferreted away" from their usual resting
> spot outside the door that we had the major clue she was
> out there somewhere.
That's the part I missed. I thought that they'd been worn in, taken off,
then taken back out to the mud room to be stored and somewhere in the
process your ferret had hitched a ride. You didn't say that, I just
"dropped in" a bit from when my son was doing that sort of work. He wore
his into the kitchen, so he could sit down in the chair just inside the
door, and took them off and set them beside the door, then he'd take them
back outside, hose them down and leave them outside to dry.
Thanks for clearing that up.
- Bill
Bill Leary
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> Generally speaking, Microsoft will not let you retrograde OE or IE.
Generally, you're correct. But if you answer the right questions the right
way, it'll let you. I have back-rev'd OE and IE on other systems, including
ME. I haven't had the "pleasure" of trying it under XP.
- Bill
jynxmom
knowledge is very basic. Though I am getting pretty good at reformatting
hard drives and starting over. I do know that when I started getting
error messages, I went to the Add/Remove Programs feature and found Outlook
Express 98 and Outlook Express 6 both there. Once I removed 98, voila!!
Everything works fine.
Jeannie
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Bill Leary
> Believe me, I will humbly bow to anyone else's computer wisdom, because my
> knowledge is very basic. Though I am getting pretty good at reformatting
> hard drives and starting over. I do know that when I started getting
> error messages, I went to the Add/Remove Programs feature and found
Outlook
> Express 98 and Outlook Express 6 both there. Once I removed 98, voila!!
This might be what MC was aluding to about XP being very self defensive. I
do computer support, and have done a little for XP but have so far not had
to get into this particular area. I've seen Win98/ME systems roll back in a
similar manner, depending on what you installed. I can't recall one
recovering an OE overwrite correctly, though. Usually it seemed to back
out, but things were screwed up in subtle ways. Address book not quite
right, for example. Either XP does a better job, or you're lucky.
And if you understand Add/Remove and how to do a cold install, you're doing
pretty well.
> Everything works fine.
Wait. *
- Bill
-------
* Perhaps obscure reference from "Addams Family Values."
marsha.king
vanished one day. I too looked everywhere. Never found him. then two days
later there he was sitting there in the middle of the living room as if
nothing was wrong. A few days after I was talking to a neighbour THREE
APARTMENTS over, she said 'a rat' had climbed out from underneath her
radiator (the baseboard wall long types), frightened her, and then went back
under. It had been Monty. What he had done was climb through the small hole
at the end where the pipe goes into the wall, and travelled along it until
he popped out three untits over. I guess the one day maybe he snoozed on the
warm pipe - it was fall so the heat wasn't on full blast. That is what comes
to my mind - under a rad or inside a heat register, that type of thing.The
know darn well you are calling them and I think get a hoot out of listening
to us. I also found him curled up inside the bottom of one of my stereo
speakers- it was a floor model, he had got behind the cover over the woofer
and was curled up there. (Didn't do the speaker any good).
Good luck.
"jynxmom" <jynxm...@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry, this may get a little long, but am hoping someone who's been in
this
> position can give some tips we may not have thought of yet.
>
> We have "lost" a ferret, as in she has literally vanished from our house.
> We've had 3 ferrets for a couple of years, and lost one to illness last
> winter despite much vet intervention & lots of help and suggestions from
> people in this group. Anyway, since then we've gained 3 ferrets to our
> gang, all given to us by people who could no longer care for their ferrets
> for one reason or another.
>
> Yesterday morning, during their outside cage time, all 5 were in full "rip
&
> tear" mode. Pino, our tiniest ferret, and by far the most skittish
ferret
> I have ever seen, turned up missing when it was time to go back in the
cage.
> Pino is afraid of any sound or sudden movement. She has only been with us
4
> months, and has slowly come to trust us and would come onto the couches
> looking for treats and cuddles. She is almost always the first one back
> in the cage, before it is even time, and mostly preferred the safety of
the
> cage to the outside world after she had gotten her treats.
>
> We immediately looked everywhere we could think of that she has hidden in
> before. We carefully turned all the furniture upside down, just in
case,
> and looked in any nook and cranny. Our downstairs is all an open floor
> plan, and we have a steel gate across the stairs to the upper floors. It
> is a possibility she figured out how to circumvent the stair guard, but so
> far none of the other ferrets have been able to, and not for lack of
trying.
> We took everything out of the cupboards, even though they are all on a
> safety latch of some sort, and have even moved out the kitchen appliances.
> No sign of her anywhere.
>
> During the initial time she was missing, no one had come into our out of
the
> house, but we did the squeeky toy and rattling the treat box routine
outside
> just in case. She has always come for the rattling treats before.
>
> We are beside ourselves with worry. We have gotten down on our hands
and
> knees, and have searched every crack and crevice in the house, upstairs
and
> down. We had central air put into the house last year, and had a fairly
> thorough search for holes and cracks done prior to that with all of them
> repaired then.
>
> It is just like she has vanished off the face of the earth. We had seen
> her just a few minutes before putting the others away, so she hadn't been
> missing that long. I know without actually seeing our house, it will be
> hard to give any relevant advice, but if anyone who's been in this
situation
> before has any hints or suggestions, they'd be appreciated. We're
> leaving water and food out in various places of the house, just in case.
I
> just can't imagine if she's anywhere she could get out of, that she hasn't
> made an appearance by now. And that scares me even more.
>
> I appreciate any thoughts or suggestions. I know that they can get
> themselves into the tiniest of places, but perhaps someone who's had more
> years' experience with their habits will have something we haven't thought
> of.
>
> Thanks for any help - even if it's just positive thoughts for us.
>
> Jeannie
>
>
PhoenixFL
Never worked that one out till now hehehehehehehehe
Phoenix of useless comments
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