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Michelle

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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Just wanted to invite all interested to come to my site and see my sister's
art work. She does scratch art by hand and it is very wonderful and
original. She does ferrets and any other animal under the sun. These
pictures on my site are of ferrets. If your looking for something very
unique then this is the place. Thanks for your time.

--
Michelle & The Big Turd Herd

http://www.homestead.com/littleorphansferrets/art.html

P.S Her name is Linda and her e-mail is FLOWE...@webtv.net


M.F. Smith

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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WOW!!! Those are great!!!


Testarossa

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Wow, those are beautiful!

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Dolt Boy

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Excellent artwork! :-)

joseph t.
dolt...@phreaker.net

Michael & Robyn

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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"M.F. Smith" wrote:

> WOW!!! Those are great!!!

Why is this starting to smell an awful like like spam to me?

-Michael


Testarossa

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Heh I have no idea... But I'm not spamming, I've been subscribed to this ng
a long time and am only 1 person. =) Although I'd like to do more than 1
thing at once.....

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Star & Troy

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Wow, Michelle, those were really beautiful pictures.
How does she do that?
Thanks for posting the link.

Star

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Melissa Golden

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Michelle, those pictures are really great! If I may be so dumb to ask, what
is scratch art? Does she sell them, or are they only available by the
shelter contest?

-M & Ewok

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Melissa Golden

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Michael, your nose is much too sensitive ;) Go look, you'll appreciate the
link. they are really cool pics.
-M & Ewok

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Michael & Robyn

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Melissa Golden wrote:

> Michael, your nose is much too sensitive ;) Go look, you'll appreciate the
> link. they are really cool pics.
> -M & Ewok

Yes, they are pretty cool.

-Michael


Michelle

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Yes my sister does sell them. She custom designs them for anyone. She does
any animal, fantasy, etc.. theme. Scratch art is done on a piece of thick
board that is already coated with black and then she uses a scratching tool
that peels off the black little by little right where she wants it and
underneath it either reveals a gold, white, or silver depending on which
kind of board she uses. She scratches off more in places to lighten and less
in places to keep dark. It takes her quite a while to get it done the way
she likes it, but they always turn our wonderful! I am going to be adding a
variety of pictures on my site soon of the one's she has already completed.
Thanks all for coming by and checking them out.

--
Michelle & The Big Turd Herd

http://www.homestead.com/littleorphansferrets/index.html

P.S. You can win one of these for only a $1 for a raffle ticket by going to
my website and following the contests/arts link. The one I am doing the
raffle on right now is an 11 by 14 so it's a good size and looks awesome in
a frame.

Linda

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Hello
My name is Linda and I am the artist that my sister is talking about.
Anyone interested having their fuzzy or other family pet done e-mail me
at FLOWE...@webtv.net
My prices are very reasonable ! But hurry if you want one as a Christmas
gift, because it takes 10 days (sometimes less) to complete . Thank you
for the nice comments.
Linda

Michelle

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Hiya Sis!! You finally got here! YIPPEE!

Michael & Robyn

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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Linda wrote:

SEE!?! I knew I smelled spam.

-Michael


Linda

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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Michael,
Why do you think you smell spam here ?
What is your problem ?
Linda

Helen Dudley Bates

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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>Why do you think you smell spam here ?
>What is your problem ?

What is Michael's problem? Oh my, leading question hehehehe <rubbing hands
together>

He already said he was wrong, and liked the pictures = )

- Helen

Michael & Robyn

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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Linda wrote:

> Michael,


> Why do you think you smell spam here ?
> What is your problem ?

> Linda

This is not a forum for advertising.

-Michael


Michelle

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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-Michael writes>>

>>This is not a forum for advertising.>>

Michelle writes>>

Why the hell not?? The shelters advertise the ferrets that they have up for
adoption....they advertise the sale of their hammocks....etc, etc, etc....
So what is your problem??? This is a ferret community right?? Right! So this
is very, very ferret related. Don't be upset just because you can't create
such great art work of the wonderful fuzzies...nobody else is jealous so why
should you be?? You crack on anything and everybody on this forum and you
have for a very long time. Ohhh, and by the way she is and always has
donated 20 percent of her earnings to the shelters in this area so
therefore....she is doing a great service to the ferret community and has
more then every right to post it here...this is an unmoderated forum
remember?

Michael & Robyn

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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Michelle wrote:

If you had spent any time on the internet, and newsgroups in general, you would
realize that spam is killing usenet. I have already seen countless newsgroups
overrun by spammers - some even on topic. Eventually, all content leaves the
group and it becomes a massive advertising forum.

The people advertising shelters and hammocks, etc are also regular, valued
contributors to this newsgroup, and it's done tactfully. I don't appreciate MY
time being wasted sifting through advertising that contributes NOTHING to this
forum. You pay NOTHING to advertise here, and the only cost involved is our
time.

-Michael
(I've been nice about it.)


Linda

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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Michael,
Who died and made you the boss of this forum???? Everyone is advertising
on here!!!!!!! If you want to be an ass about it, I guess that fits
you....Why do you and other people write about things that do't apply to
ferrets at all here???? I donate 20% of my earnings to ferret
shelters...
What do you do besides put your nose in
places it shouldn't be?????
Linda

Helen Dudley Bates

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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>Michael,
>Who died and made you the boss of this forum????

Hm...I think it was John W. Prentice, wasn't it Michael? I have a copy of the
will around someplace.

>Why do you and other people write about things that do't apply to
>ferrets at all here????

Because this is an unmoderated newsgroup and we can write or comment about
anything we please, as can you.

>I donate 20% of my earnings to ferret
>shelters...

oh that's so sweet. Guess that means you're buying a stairway to heaven.

>What do you do besides put your nose in
>places it shouldn't be?????

Oooh Michael! I din't know you were kinky! Too bad I'm a nun...


- Helen

NCFS

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Getting out the popcorn. This could turn into a good one :-)

Linda wrote:
>
> Michael,


> Who died and made you the boss of this forum???? Everyone is advertising
> on here!!!!!!! If you want to be an ass about it, I guess that fits

> you....Why do you and other people write about things that do't apply to
> ferrets at all here???? I donate 20% of my earnings to ferret
> shelters...


> What do you do besides put your nose in
> places it shouldn't be?????

> Linda

--
Bev Fox
North Coast Ferret Shelter
http://www.suite224.net/~ncfs1997/
and Home of Weezil Walls Ferret Playpens
http://www.suite224.net/~ncfs1997/ww.html

Testarossa

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Then ignore the message... It's easy to do, I do it a lot on things I'm not
interested in. I, for one, enjoy seeing ferret artwork. This is just one
thread, now if this person was posting over and over I'd be steamed too.

--

- Testa...@Cheerful.com
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Melissa Golden

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Michael & Robyn wrote in message <37E3E547...@gte.net>...
[snip]

>If you had spent any time on the internet, and newsgroups in general, you
would
>realize that spam is killing usenet. I have already seen countless
newsgroups
>overrun by spammers - some even on topic. Eventually, all content leaves
the
>group and it becomes a massive advertising forum.
>
>The people advertising shelters and hammocks, etc are also regular, valued
>contributors to this newsgroup, and it's done tactfully. I don't
appreciate MY
>time being wasted sifting through advertising that contributes NOTHING to
this
>forum. You pay NOTHING to advertise here, and the only cost involved is
our
>time.
>
>-Michael
>(I've been nice about it.)
>
Yeah, Ok, I agree, you've been nice about it. But- I'm glad she advertised
here (and really, all's it was was a link to a page on a shelters site). I
like the pictures, and I want one. I would not have found out about them
unless said link was posted. Ferrets aren't like dogs- you cant' find
anything and everything under the sun in a ferret motif like you can with
other animals. So when something new and interesting comes along, I like to
hear about it. I have a really cool light switch plate from Ferretwares
that I wouldn't have know about if not for the ng. So relax Michael, and
just buy me the picture for xmas damit <G>

-M & Ewok (I think I'll just stay out of this one. Someone pass the popcorn)

Linda

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Helen,
Ouch!! Pretty fiesty for a nun. He just really got my dander up ! No I
will get to heaven ,but not on the small change I make. I love doing my
artwork and I love helping out the shelters. If I was in it for the
money, I wouldn't bother!!! I would surely starve.
Linda

Kenneth Haupert

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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These are beautiful drawings of ferrets
Why would you consider it spam??
Just a question as I don't understand your reasoning???

Be gentle with me Michael <VBG>


Irene, Gizmo, Gadget & Snowflake (God's Angel)


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Kenneth Haupert

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Sister Helen

You are toooooo funnnnny !!!!!!!! ROTFLOL


Irene, Gizmo, Gadget & Snowflake (God's Angel)


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> >Why do you think you smell spam here ?
> >What is your problem ?
>

william killian

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Michael & Robyn wrote:

> If you had spent any time on the internet, and newsgroups in general, you would
> realize that spam is killing usenet. I have already seen countless newsgroups
> overrun by spammers - some even on topic. Eventually, all content leaves the
> group and it becomes a massive advertising forum.

Well the exceptions are groups designed as .forsale groups. Perhaps a
alt.ferrets.forsale group could be created. alt groups don't have all
the fancy vote counting that
rec.pets.ferrets took.

-bill
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bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets
http://www.zenferret.com/
mailto:kil...@zenferret.com

Linda

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Thank you to all who supported me.

Michael,
I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here. Your attacks on
me
were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time. I will say and do
anything
I wish here so back off!!!! I had no idea that you were such an opinion
God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
but I think they smell!!! ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip
nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate
so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
and get a life!!!
Linda

FLOWE...@webtv.net

Bob

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Sep 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/19/99
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Linda wrote in message <10574-37...@newsd-622.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Thank you to all who supported me.

Michael,
I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here. Your attacks on
me
were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time. I will say and do
anything
I wish here so back off!!!!

<Plonk!> You're being killfiled in this case because your attitude sucks
the big one.

FLOWERDOG2 added to filter

bob

and dora
and brutus

I had no idea that you were such an opinion
God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
but I think they smell!!! ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip
nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate
so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
and get a life!!!
Linda

FLOWE...@webtv.net

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Helen Dudley Bates

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Flowerdog wrote:
>Michael,
>I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here. Your attacks on
>me
>were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time. I will say and do
>anything
>I wish here so back off!!!! I had no idea that you were such an opinion

>God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
>but I think they smell!!! ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
>thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip
>nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate
>so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
>and get a life!!!

Well, I certainly won't be buying any artwork this year lol.

- Helen

Susan

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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>Thank you to all who supported me.
>
>Michael,
>I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here. Your attacks on
>me
>were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time. I will say and do
>anything
>I wish here so back off!!!! I had no idea that you were such an opinion
>God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
>but I think they smell!!! ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
>thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip
>nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate
>so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
>and get a life!!!
>Linda
>
>FLOWE...@webtv.net

I wasn't going to post on this thread...but from this I felt I had to.
From your post of selling the ferret art, I thought it was like a slower and
sly way of spamming. On that, I thought Michael was right.
Thank goodness your ferret art looked great . But I won't be buying any
artwork from you with that attitude. Just my opinion.


-Susan

~The eagle may soar, but the weasel never gets sucked into a jet engine.~


william killian

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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I thought in the beginning Michael was wrong. It seemed a reasonable
announcement not
out of place.

Not so sure now. Worst thing you said was "I will say and do anything I


wish here so
back off!!!!"

No you won't. Well unless you wanna pay the price.

Other lines don't endear you too much either.

Linda wrote:
>
> Thank you to all who supported me.
>
> Michael,
> I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here. Your attacks on
> me
> were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time. I will say and do
> anything
> I wish here so back off!!!! I had no idea that you were such an opinion
> God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
> but I think they smell!!! ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
> thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip
> nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate
> so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
> and get a life!!!
> Linda
>
> FLOWE...@webtv.net
>

--

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Wow, could this get any uglier?

Okay, so posting regarding sales isnt the best netiquette, but MAN Linda,
that shitty attitude towards people that you don't even know is even worse.
The ferret pics you do are wonderful...but with people skills like
this....sheez....i think i'll have to pass.

Its a shame that you can't understand what he's trying to say, and maybe
before attacking someone you don't know and basically insulting everyone
else in the group by insinuating that we "kiss his feet"...you should do
some posting that IS on topic and not so incredibly inflammatory. Then
perhaps you'd realize that Michael does help a lot of people, and has a lot
of great ferret advice, which IS the reason we all come here.

My opinion only....so feel free to keep your eye on me too.

Kim
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every new person who signs on, and its totally free to help us. Thank you
from the ferrets.
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NCFS

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Add me to the growing list of people who wouldn't spend a dime or a pile
of ferret poop on your art work. Your attitude sucks!

Linda wrote:
I will say and do
> anything

> I wish here so back off!!!! The more you attack, the more I will retaliate


> so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
> and get a life!!!
> Linda
>
> FLOWE...@webtv.net
>

--

Michael & Robyn

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william killian wrote:

> Michael & Robyn wrote:
>
> > If you had spent any time on the internet, and newsgroups in general, you would
> > realize that spam is killing usenet. I have already seen countless newsgroups
> > overrun by spammers - some even on topic. Eventually, all content leaves the
> > group and it becomes a massive advertising forum.
>
> Well the exceptions are groups designed as .forsale groups. Perhaps a
> alt.ferrets.forsale group could be created. alt groups don't have all
> the fancy vote counting that
> rec.pets.ferrets took.

Either way - common courtesy and etiquette has endowed us with the ability to insert
ADV: into the subject heading. Unless, of course, you're trying to scam people into
reading your advertising.

-Michael


Michael & Robyn

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Linda wrote:

> Thank you to all who supported me.
>
> Michael,
> I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here.

Yeah, until I nailed you, I'm sure.

> Your attacks on
> me
> were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time.

Like your advertising.

> I will say and do
> anything
> I wish here so back off!!!!

Yeah, you've already proven that.

> I had no idea that you were such an opinion
> God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
> but I think they smell!!!

Then please, make use of the alternative. Kiss my ass.

> ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
> thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip

> nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate


> so shut up and so will I...

Tell you what. Fuck you. You want to attack? I bite hard.

> I'm keeping my eye on you!!

Cool, pop it out and let's make your skull useful for SOMETHING.

> So be a good boy
> and get a life!!

Oh snap! Did you make that up yourself, or are you repeating your mother
again?

-Michael


Michael & Robyn

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william killian wrote:

> I thought in the beginning Michael was wrong. It seemed a reasonable
> announcement not
> out of place.
>

> Not so sure now. Worst thing you said was "I will say and do anything I


> wish here so
> back off!!!!"
>

> No you won't. Well unless you wanna pay the price.
>
> Other lines don't endear you too much either.

Sorry, it's a throwback to the days when the 'net was in place to educate and
enlighten. Now every idiot is clogging up bandwidth trying to hawk some
wares. I still remember back when you could use a search engine and get
something back besides amazon.com.

-Michael


Linda

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Sister Helen,
You can't please everyone.

Michael,
Boy did I get your true colors out or what??? You think you bite hard
but all you've proven is : That you know a few bad words <potty-mouth>,
and how short you fuse is. I expected a little more from you than a
temper tantrum < so pitiful>. I feel sorry for you....BooHoo!!! I
thought you were intelligent but, I was wrong. I'm
sure everyone is sick of your mouth... Who's buying the popcorn for this
one???


Sister Helen,
You're siding with satan!!! EXORCISE THE DEMON!!!!
AMEN......

Linda

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Michael,
Thank you for the advertising!!! You are the spam master!!!!!!!!

Helen Dudley Bates

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Flowerdog wrote:
>Sister Helen,
>You're siding with satan!!! EXORCISE THE DEMON!!!!
>AMEN......

I tried, but you won't leave. Linda, Michael is very well-respected here. He
cares very much about ferrets, though he has little tolerance for fools. So
why don't you pack up your mediocre scratch-art and head off somewhere else?

- Helen

Star & Troy

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Linda, I told Michael he was being out of line with you.
Based on your rotten attitude here, I think I owe him an apology...
You see, he is a long-time respected member of this group, so he gets cut
alot
of slack. We like Michael.
Meanwhile, you come in here and start going off on people on only your
second post....
I bet no one from this group will be buying your art, which is too bad
because it is pretty good. But you need to learn people skills, and you need
an attitude adjustment.
Lay off Helen, too. We won't stand for that, either. See, she's another
long time, well liked member of this group.


Star

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> Sister Helen,
> You can't please everyone.
>
> Michael,
> Boy did I get your true colors out or what??? You think you bite hard
> but all you've proven is : That you know a few bad words <potty-mouth>,
> and how short you fuse is. I expected a little more from you than a
> temper tantrum < so pitiful>. I feel sorry for you....BooHoo!!! I
> thought you were intelligent but, I was wrong. I'm
> sure everyone is sick of your mouth... Who's buying the popcorn for this
> one???
>
>

Michael & Robyn

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Linda wrote:

> Michael,
> Thank you for the advertising!!! You are the spam master!!!!!!!!

Ah, you're too kind. Especially since I purposely edited your link out
of all replies.
I can't take all the credit. Your shitty attitude has lost you more
customers than I could.

Love,
Michael


Ferretnews

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Hello everyone,

I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
product line. And, since the discussion has become so heated, I thought I'd
take the time to ask everyone if they would prefer that I not post those
notices. I'll have no problem respecting what the majority prefers. I just
thought/hoped the notices would be of some interest to those who enjoy what I
do besides lobby the CA Legislature.

I do try to make it clear in the headline that it concerns The Ferret Company.
So let me know, I understand everyone being sick of advertising-- I'm on AOL
after all :)!!!

Jeanne
Jeanne Carley
Founder Californians for Ferret Legalization
http://www.ferretnews.org

Jonathan Block

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Webtv user.....Michael Bait.....could it be a coincidence? 8)

Jonathan
& The (Prolly a 15 inch tv even) Boyz
& Their Sister (Bah, get a real computer!) Hopalong


Linda wrote:
>
> Sister Helen,


> You can't please everyone.
>
> Michael,
> Boy did I get your true colors out or what??? You think you bite hard
> but all you've proven is : That you know a few bad words <potty-mouth>,
> and how short you fuse is. I expected a little more from you than a
> temper tantrum < so pitiful>. I feel sorry for you....BooHoo!!! I
> thought you were intelligent but, I was wrong. I'm
> sure everyone is sick of your mouth... Who's buying the popcorn for this
> one???
>
> Sister Helen,
> You're siding with satan!!! EXORCISE THE DEMON!!!!
> AMEN......

--
"we do not recognize our souls, until they are in pain."

"There is a man...playing a violin...and the strings... are the nerves
in his own arms."

"That which does not kill me, usually leaves a nasty scar."

To see how the Wild Weasel War Dancers RC5 team is doing and information
on joining them, please visit
http://stats.distributed.net/rc5-64/tmsummary.php3?team=15214

If you're REALLY bored, you can check out the Plaid Jello website at
http://www.plaid-jello.com

Address all private emails to grelf at plaid dash jello dot com.
Address all flames, curses, hate mail and death threats to /dev/null.
If you reply to sp...@plaid-jello.com you'll get spam mail back.

Helen Dudley Bates

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Jeanne Carley wrote:
>I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
>product line. And, since the discussion has become so heated, I thought I'd
>take the time to ask everyone if they would prefer that I not post those
>notices.

Jeanne, frankly I'd be upset if you stopped posting updates. What upset
Michael I think was that the artwork was posted first as just "Wow, look at
this" and then we were slipped the sales pitch. You've never worked that way.
And your workings on behalf of ferrets--especially here in CA--are legendary.

Besides, I want one of those cute lil ferret pins I saw Geri wearing 3 weeks
ago <g>

- Helen

Susan

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I agree with Helen, 100%. Your updates are very informative and I enjoy
reading them.
Please keep up the good work!

Michael & Robyn

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Jonathan Block wrote:

> Webtv user.....Michael Bait.....could it be a coincidence? 8)
>
> Jonathan
> & The (Prolly a 15 inch tv even) Boyz
> & Their Sister (Bah, get a real computer!) Hopalong

Dude, I swear, it's a conspiracy. I try to say two words to them, and they
fly up my ass like some weird anal parasite. I thought I was reasonably nice
about it, too.

I guess it's easy to understand that when someone is getting their internet
access from a television set, they become uncomfortable without a word from
their sponsors every eight minutes. They'll be gone as soon as the networks
get their shit together and make a few more Baywatch spin-offs.

I think too many of them are using really old, spare televisions from the '50s
and the radiation has mutated their formerly common sense.

Other are really nice, so they must have newer televisions.

-Michael


Michael & Robyn

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Ferretnews wrote:

> Hello everyone,


>
> I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
> product line. And, since the discussion has become so heated, I thought I'd
> take the time to ask everyone if they would prefer that I not post those

> notices. I'll have no problem respecting what the majority prefers. I just
> thought/hoped the notices would be of some interest to those who enjoy what I
> do besides lobby the CA Legislature.
>
> I do try to make it clear in the headline that it concerns The Ferret Company.
> So let me know, I understand everyone being sick of advertising-- I'm on AOL
> after all :)!!!
>
> Jeanne
> Jeanne Carley
> Founder Californians for Ferret Legalization
> http://www.ferretnews.org

I don't think this really applies to you, Jeanne. You have provided too much
information and too many services for ferrets and their owners to be accused of
spamming.

-Michael


Sandy Adams

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my $.02, i don't mind the advertisement on ferrets.. doesn't take up that much
space and especially the ones that benefit the ferrets are very important..
shelters need all the help they can get and then some..

as for this particular one.. i wouldn't buy anything here either.. gonna get me
one of those Ferret 2000 calendars though.. :) :)

Susan wrote:

> >Jeanne Carley wrote:
> >>I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
> >>product line. And, since the discussion has become so heated, I thought I'd
> >>take the time to ask everyone if they would prefer that I not post those
> >>notices.
> >

Linda

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Star,
You can have him and his dirty mouth.
He started this bull and you respect him??
I do not need you, him, or Sista Helen.
As for not buying my art: your problem.
I was only trying to show my work once on here so I could possibly get
someone to
help me, help the shelters and the unwanted ferrets. When I asked him a
few simple questions he put his claws out and ended his lectures to me
with A1 garbage and it's drawing flies. I did not show the disrespect he
did. But I will leave with respect for myself and those I wish to help.

Bob Haynes

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Helen Dudley Bates wrote:
>
> Jeanne Carley wrote:
> >I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
> >product line. And, since the discussion has become so heated, I thought I'd
> >take the time to ask everyone if they would prefer that I not post those
> >notices.
>
> Jeanne, frankly I'd be upset if you stopped posting updates. What upset
> Michael I think was that the artwork was posted first as just "Wow, look at
> this" and then we were slipped the sales pitch. You've never worked that way.
> And your workings on behalf of ferrets--especially here in CA--are legendary.

BINGO! That "bait and switch" that Linda did, and then her crappy "you
don't like it? TOUGH!" attitude was enough for me to plonk her (add her
to the killfile), but I would never killfile Jeanne, she neither pulls
any bait and switch, nor does she have a deplorable attitude such as
Linda displayed.

bob

and dora
and brutus


>

> Besides, I want one of those cute lil ferret pins I saw Geri wearing 3 weeks
> ago <g>
>
> - Helen

TONY

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I think Michaels' mouth got a little out of hand here. It was for a
good cause and it did not deserve the crap it got from him from day one.
Her work is spectacular!!!!!! Her cause should be commended not
resented.


Michelle

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Helen Wrote>>
Well, I certainly won't be buying any artwork this year lol. >>

Michelle Writes>>
Your not going to buy? Whoa...now that is a real big loss. <rotflmao> >>

Susan Wrote>>


From your post of selling the ferret art, I thought it was like a slower
and
sly way of spamming. On that, I thought Michael was right.
Thank goodness your ferret art looked great . But I won't be buying any
artwork from you with that attitude. Just my opinion.>>

Michelle Writes>>
LINDA DID NOT MAKE THIS POST ABOUT HER ARTWORK ANYWAY.....I DID....so
therefore how is it that she was spamming her work when she had nothing to
do with it?? HELLO WAKE UP! I posted that she let me put her pics on my site
and I wanted to share how neat I thought they were. Linda had nothing to do
with it!>>

William Killian Wrote That Linda Said>>
"I will say and do anything I wish on here."

Michelle Writes>>
Oh gee....I wonder how many times I have heard Michael say that in his posts
over the past year? (100-200 times?) <laughing> >>

Michael Wrote>>


Sorry, it's a throwback to the days when the 'net was in place to educate
and
enlighten. Now every idiot is clogging up bandwidth trying to hawk some
wares. I still remember back when you could use a search engine and get
something back besides amazon.com.>>

Michelle Writes>>
Now this boy has really proven his intelligence today hasn't he? <rotflmao>
>>

Kim Wrote>>


but MAN Linda, that shitty attitude towards people that you don't even know
is even worse. The ferret pics you do are wonderful...but with people skills
like
this....sheez....i think i'll have to pass.

Its a shame that you can't understand what he's trying to say, and maybe
before attacking someone you don't know and basically insulting everyone
else in the group by insinuating that we "kiss his feet"...you should do
some posting that IS on topic and not so incredibly inflammatory. Then
perhaps you'd realize that Michael does help a lot of people, and has a lot
of great ferret advice, which IS the reason we all come here.>>

Michelle Writes>>
You have got to be kidding me?? That is bullshit! Linda doesn't have the
attitude...Michael does...as always. His first post was insulting and they
just kept coming from him. I have been on the NG for at least a year and
Michael has stirred up more shit on here then anyone will ever be able to
do. He rags on everyone! Maybe his "great ferret advice" is good, but it is
sure not worth the shit he dishes out to even get the advice from him.>>

Bev Wrote>>


Add me to the growing list of people who wouldn't spend a dime or a pile of
ferret poop on your art work. Your attitude sucks!>>

Michelle Writes>>
Her attitude sucks? What about your attitude? Your second post and listen to
the shit your dishing! HELLO!>>

Michael Wrote>>


Yeah, until I nailed you, I'm sure.>>

Michelle Writes>>
Okay....now I AM laughing.>>

Michael Writes>>


Tell you what. Fuck you. You want to attack? I bite hard.>>

Michelle Writes>>
No you don't!! From what I have seen about you...your bark is always worse
than your bite....give me a break.

Michael Wrote>>


Cool, pop it out and let's make your skull useful for SOMETHING.

Michelle Writes>>
I had you pegged as that kind of guy all along! <rotflmao>

Helen Wrote>>


Michael is very well-respected here.>>

Michelle Writes>>
No he's not! Your full of shit! Michael is just better at attacking people
from behind the computer than you are....which is why he attacks every new
comer here on every account and the regulars here just go along so that he
doesn't turn on them. I have been watching for a year and this thing with
Michael is just another regular deal. I have had so many damn people e-mail
me wanting help because they posted on this NG for the first time when they
needed help and they said all they got was attacked.....and by Michael
mostly.>>

Helen Wrote>>


. So why don't you pack up your mediocre scratch-art and head off somewhere
else?>>

Michelle Writes>>
Well gee....don't be jealous! You just wish that you could do art like that
so that you could make wonderful pics of your own fuzzies and not have to
settle for the same old same old when it comes to finding unique ferret art.
I know it's a pain in the ass when you can only find the same old ferret
stuff to buy and you just wish you could find something a little
different....Linda has different and it's good...damn good.....I wish I
could do what she is able to do, but I can't. No need to be jealous
though....geesh!>>

Star Wrote>>


Linda, I told Michael he was being out of line with you.
Based on your rotten attitude here, I think I owe him an apology...>>

Michelle Writes>>
Apologize away!>>

Star Wrote>>


You see, he is a long-time respected member of this group>>

Michelle Writes>>
No he's not! Everyone half pretends to like him because he can and will out
attacked and flame anyone here....and they all know it!>>

Star Wrote>>


Meanwhile, you come in here and start going off on people on only your
second post....>>

Michelle Writes>>
Yes, and so did Bev, Helen, Michael (on his very first post), etc.... I
could go on! Point being??>>

Star Wrote>>


I bet no one from this group will be buying your art, which is too bad
because it is pretty good. But you need to learn people skills, and you need
an attitude adjustment.>>

Michelle Writes>>
I don't think Linda was planning on selling her art! SHE WASN'T
SELLING!HELLO! Hell she didn't even advertise her art on this NG.....for the
last time....I DID!>> Sorry Linda... I guess I should have asked you before
I mentioned in here about your pics on my site...I was just really excited
at how great they look and how nice it was of you to donate one picture to
me and several of the other shelters. I'll bet they look good hanging on the
wall at Julie's shelter. <big grin> >> Can't wait to see them next time we
go to her house.>>

Michael Wrote>>


Your shitty attitude has lost you more customers than I could.>>

Michelle Writes>>
I really don't think she is too concerned with any of that....do you
Michael? She didn't become an artist 20 plus years ago...to try to sell to
people in the NG. Get real! She actually has her works hanging in art places
around town here so why would she bother with you? WAKE UP! I was the one
that advertised it without her permission and then when I told her about it
she was okay with it a little and then I suggested that she make her own
reply and introduce herself once to everyone which was my BIG FUCKING
MISTAKE because I knew she would get her ass reamed....because you are here
Michael...yes you. I was the one who told her that she should at least
mention that she does custom orders and would be willing to do them for the
people of the NG. However, I did fail to mention to her about the flame wars
that come about on this NG so she was unprepared and was only trying to
defend what she hadn't even done....spamming....I posted this and it's not
even my artwork so I sure the fuck wasn't spamming it either...why would I?
I wouldn't get the money from someone else's art! Once again sorry
Linda....I knew better....I have been here long enough to know that the NG
is not a place to try to do something nice or a place to come in as a
newcomer.>>

Helen Wrote>>


What upset Michael I think was that the artwork was posted first as just
"Wow, look at this" and then we were slipped the sales pitch.>>

Michelle Writes>>
I know I have already said this ten times but it is apparent that some can't
read....... LINDA DID NOT POST THIS POST....I DID! Not my work so I damn
sure wasn't making a sales pitch!! I just wanted everyone to see that I had
some neat pictures on my site that wasn't just the same old same old. How
dense are you?? Why don't you try to get the shit straight in your mind
first and then post after your head has caught up with your brain.>>

Sandy Wrote>>


as for this particular one.. i wouldn't buy anything here either.. gonna get
me
one of those Ferret 2000 calendars though.. :) :)>>

Michelle Writes>>
The pics on my site WERE NOT FOR SALE IN THE FIRST PLACE... DAMN GET IT
RIGHT HERE! You guys are chewing her (Linda) out and she wasn't even selling
those pics.....she donated one to me to raffle off! NOT FOR SALE.....how
many times does it need said? I was just showing it off because it was so
much different then the one's I always run into.>>

Bob Wrote>>


That "bait and switch" that Linda did>>

Michelle Writes>>
Just want in the hell are you talking about?? She was Linda when she got
here and she is still Linda now.....ARE YOU TRIPPIN'? I am the one who
posted this post for the hundredth time....not Linda.>>

Tony Wrote>>

Michelle Writes>>
Now that is something I agree with! Thanks Tony for understanding in our
e-mail conversation that Linda didn't even post this post and that I did and
that I was the one that told her to come on in here and introduce herself in
a quick note. <grinning> I was the one who told her that everyone always is
saying that they just can't seem to find new stuff on ferrets and that she
should come here and at least post under my post about her work and how she
gives several local shelters around here 20 percent of her earnings for her
pictures. Not just ferret pics either, but she gives 20 percent from every
single picture she sells in the art stores and such. If it weren't for her
20 percent on dozens of occasions....I probably wouldn't have been able to
afford an adrenal surgery or a botched spay surgery. Thanks Linda....no
matter what they say....I know what you do and I know you do it out of your
love for the fuzzbutts! :) >>


If I seem mad well it's because I AM. Linda did nothing wrong here. I posted
this post and without her permission. She wasn't selling anything and
neither was I. Not my work....not my sale. I just wanted to show off
something I really liked and when more than a dozen people e-mailed me and
wanted one I then invited Linda to introduce herself and offer to do pics
for those interested. She even said in her post to e-mail her if interested
because she didn't want to tie down this NG with all the details of her work
and then she was attacked, beaten, raped, slaughtered, mutilated, etc....
and she was only defending herself because she knew she didn't post this and
she knew she wasn't spamming. I posted and with no intention of selling her
artwork which would be very illegal seeing as how it isn't even my artwork.
I have said enough on this subject and I will not say anything else.....this
has been nothing, but a hassle and a bunch of bullshit!


Michael & Robyn

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Michelle wrote:
<snip 50 quotes from people against your blather, 1 quote from another WebTV
user who can't find anything better to watch on television>

> If I seem mad well it's because I AM. Linda did nothing wrong here. I posted
> this post and without her permission. She wasn't selling anything and
> neither was I. Not my work....not my sale. I just wanted to show off
> something I really liked and when more than a dozen people e-mailed me and
> wanted one I then invited Linda to introduce herself and offer to do pics
> for those interested. She even said in her post to e-mail her if interested
> because she didn't want to tie down this NG with all the details of her work
> and then she was attacked, beaten, raped, slaughtered, mutilated, etc....
> and she was only defending herself because she knew she didn't post this and
> she knew she wasn't spamming. I posted and with no intention of selling her
> artwork which would be very illegal seeing as how it isn't even my artwork.
> I have said enough on this subject and I will not say anything else.....this
> has been nothing, but a hassle and a bunch of bullshit!

I know how much you'd like to believe otherwise, but I didn't get nasty until
y'all decided to. That's why all the people smart enough to use a computer
have told you that you're wrong. They were all on your side until you started
behaving like a shit. You should learn when to keep your pie-hole shut.

-Michael


Helen Dudley Bates

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>I think Michaels' mouth got a little out of hand here. It was for a
>good cause and it did not deserve the crap it got from him from day one.
>Her work is spectacular!!!!!! Her cause should be commended not
>resented.

I'm sorry, I don't agree. Linda's art is pretty, but every professional artist
knows the best way to make a bad drawing look good is to put it against a black
background to enhance the contrast. Most artists I know regard this as
cheating. This work is certainly eye-catching, but low on anatomy and
technique.

I didn't plan on saying this, because as an artist and art teacher myself I
don't rag on other people's work. But I also don't approve of art students
selling their work before they are ready, and I really hate it when people
misrepresent their intentions ("Hey I just found this FANTASTIC new website!!")

Michael's initial comment was that it smelled like spam, and I don't think he
was wrong in that.

I admire the effort and the initiative, and the pride Linda has in her work. I
hope she keeps it up.

- Helen

Jonathan Block

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Michelle wrote:
[Snipped a ton of bandwidth wasting posts]

> I have said enough on this subject and I will not say anything else.....this
> has been nothing, but a hassle and a bunch of bullshit!

Does this mean you'll go fuck yourself, die, and go away?

Jonathan
& The (Sheesh, what a potty mouth) Boyz
& Their Sister (Yeah, but she's a webtv user, so it's ok) Hopalong

Susan

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>Susan Wrote>>
> From your post of selling the ferret art, I thought it was like a slower
>and
>sly way of spamming. On that, I thought Michael was right.
>Thank goodness your ferret art looked great . But I won't be buying any
>artwork from you with that attitude. Just my opinion.>>
>
>Michelle Writes>>
>LINDA DID NOT MAKE THIS POST ABOUT HER ARTWORK ANYWAY.....I DID....so
>therefore how is it that she was spamming her work when she had nothing to
>do with it?? HELLO WAKE UP! I posted that she let me put her pics on my site
>and I wanted to share how neat I thought they were. Linda had nothing to do
>with it!>>
>

My goodness, you two sisters are exactly a like attitude wise. Like I have
said in my earlier post, I wasn't going to post on this thread. But I do think
you need to wake up...to those people who have been doing newsgroups for quite
sometime, regardless if it is ferret or other subject. What I saw in the
beginning looks like spam. And in fact I thought it was funny that Michael
posted that it "Smell like spam here". Because that is what it looked like.
But of course all of these flaming could have been ceased if you can find a
humor at the beginning. Alas, it wasn't there. Your sister really have a
rotten attitude, beside her talent...and I know where you get it from.
all humor aside.

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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Michelle Sez:
You have got to be kidding me?? That is bullshit! Linda doesn't have the
attitude...Michael does...as always.

Sorry dont agree at all there. He did mention spam but the attitude problem
definetly started with Linda. Her "nanny nanny" attitude of "ill say
anything I want..." really was ugly. This isnt her NG anymore than it is
mine, yours or Michaels. Thats why its a newsGROUP, and not a
newsINDIVIDUAL. If enough people have a problem with what she's
posting...well gee....wouldnt that tell you something??

Michelle Sez:
His first post was insulting and they just kept coming from him. I have
been on the NG for at least a year

Have you? I dont remember that long ago when you wrote to me about
sheltering and the financial end of it.....less than a year for sure.

Michelle Sez:
and Michael has stirred up more shit on here then anyone will ever be
able to
do. He rags on everyone! Maybe his "great ferret advice" is good, but it
is
sure not worth the shit he dishes out to even get the advice from him.

Thats your opinion, not mine.

Sorry Michelle, your sister was out of line. I call em like I see em.
Thats a shame too, since she could have made some $$$ for your shelter.

Kim

Michelle <FLOW...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:7s5tak$a12$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com...

Susan

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>Susan Writes>>

>. Your sister really have a rotten attitude, beside her talent...and I know
>where you get it from. all humor aside.>>
>
>Michelle Writes>>
>Geesh....there is that jealousy again! <rotflmffao> You are doing as much
>insulting here as anyone else....therefore.....your attitude sucks....let's
>be fair about it won't you.>>
>

let me mind you, I didn't start this and also remind you, I have not once used
any vulgar language. I just stated that with attitude like that. I wouldn't
want any of her artwork...it has nothing to do with jealous.
You are the one that attacked me for what I was thinking. I am merely
defending myself. :)

Michelle

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KiSta Wrote>>

Have you? I dont remember that long ago when you wrote to me about
sheltering and the financial end of it.....less than a year for sure.>>

Michelle Writes>>
Definitely less than 5 months, but I have been reading this NG as well as
the FML for a very long time. This NG is what made me see how bad shelters
are needed, but I have been on the NG for much, much longer.>>

Kim Wrote>>


Sorry Michelle, your sister was out of line. I call em like I see em.
Thats a shame too, since she could have made some $$$ for your shelter.>>

Michelle Writes>>
Well I am not really worried about that. I am not using Linda for her
donations. Geez.>>

Susan Writes>>
. Your sister really have a rotten attitude, beside her talent...and I know
where you get it from. all humor aside.>>

Michelle Writes>>
Geesh....there is that jealousy again! <rotflmffao> You are doing as much
insulting here as anyone else....therefore.....your attitude sucks....let's
be fair about it won't you.>>

Jon Boy Wrote>>


Does this mean you'll go fuck yourself, die, and go away?>>

Michelle Writes>>
NOT A FUCKING CHANCE IN HELL! Will you??>>

Helen Wrote>>


because as an artist and art teacher myself I don't rag on other people's
work>>

Michelle Writes>>
Gee did you make that all up by yourself?>>

Helen Wrote>>


But I also don't approve of art students
selling their work before they are ready, and I really hate it when people
misrepresent their intentions ("Hey I just found this FANTASTIC new
website!!")>>

Michelle Writes>>
She wasn't selling her artwork!! It was a donated picture by her for a
shelter raffle.>>

Helen Wrote>>


and I really hate it when people misrepresent their intentions ("Hey I just
found this FANTASTIC new website!!")>>

Michelle Writes>>
The original post says "Just wanted to invite all interested to come to my
site and see my sister's art work." So where is it that something was
misrepresented? My post also said that if you were interested you would have
to E-mail Linda for any details which I accompanied with her e-mail address.
Deaf, Dumb, and Blind I see. You are wrong.....dead wrong!>>

NCFS

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It must be a webtv thing. They seem to stick together no matter what.
Michael must have been right. It's the radiation from old TV screens.

Anybody up for a new group called alt.ferrets.webtv.flbimbo.alfert?

TONY wrote:
>
> I think Michaels' mouth got a little out of hand here. It was for a
> good cause and it did not deserve the crap it got from him from day one.
> Her work is spectacular!!!!!! Her cause should be commended not
> resented.

--
Bev Fox
North Coast Ferret Shelter
http://www.suite224.net/~ncfs1997/
and Home of Weezil Walls Ferret Playpens
http://www.suite224.net/~ncfs1997/ww.html

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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Michelle <FLOW...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> Well I am not really worried about that. I am not using Linda for her
> donations. Geez.>>

Then why the hell would you post this information at all???? Then what
you're saying is it really WAS spam!!! The only reason i'd post regarding
something a friend/family member was selling is if my shelter ferrets were
recieving profits from that sale. And honestly, you should care. The art
is decent. You and your sister could have done very well with it. Fund
raisers that work are few & far between.

Honestly Michelle, this is getting worse & worse. You may not agree with
Michael, or me, or anyone else who disagrees with your sister, but defending
to this point only makes you seem silly. Youre causing others (like myself)
to lose respect for you. I know your response will be probably..."oh I dont
care go fuck yourself" or something snappy like that, but seriously....
enough is enough.

Kim

Melissa Golden

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I gotta agree with Kim on this one. I started out on the other side of the
fence, but that was before the really crappy attitude.

-M & Ewok (at least you'll be saving some moolah)

KiSta Ferret Rescue wrote in message <7s4g09$2kr$1...@news1.exit109.com>...
>Wow, could this get any uglier?
>
>Okay, so posting regarding sales isnt the best netiquette, but MAN Linda,


>that shitty attitude towards people that you don't even know is even worse.
>The ferret pics you do are wonderful...but with people skills like
>this....sheez....i think i'll have to pass.
>
>Its a shame that you can't understand what he's trying to say, and maybe
>before attacking someone you don't know and basically insulting everyone
>else in the group by insinuating that we "kiss his feet"...you should do
>some posting that IS on topic and not so incredibly inflammatory. Then
>perhaps you'd realize that Michael does help a lot of people, and has a lot
>of great ferret advice, which IS the reason we all come here.
>

>My opinion only....so feel free to keep your eye on me too.
>
>Kim
>--
>Please help us help the ferrets by visiting Eyegive at
>http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=4030&mid=7501 We receive $2.00 for
>every new person who signs on, and its totally free to help us. Thank you
>from the ferrets.


>Linda <FLOWE...@webtv.net> wrote in message

>news:10574-37...@newsd-622.iap.bryant.webtv.net...
>> Thank you to all who supported me.
>>
>> Michael,
>> I had no intentions of making a daily commercial here. Your attacks on
>> me
>> were uncalled for and a waste of everyones' time. I will say and do
>> anything
>> I wish here so back off!!!! I had no idea that you were such an opinion
>> God and king of the internet... Others may bow down and kiss your feet
>> but I think they smell!!! ( worse than spam ) You did say that you
>> thought my artwork was cool, and for that I thank you, but you will nip
>> nothing in the bud here. The more you attack, the more I will retaliate
>> so shut up and so will I... I'm keeping my eye on you!! So be a good boy
>> and get a life!!!
>> Linda
>>
>> FLOWE...@webtv.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Melissa Golden

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No problem Jeanne. I didn't mind the scratch art post- just the ensuing
attitude. Your post always have a happy attitude attatched :). I will be
buying a calendar!!
-M
Ferretnews wrote in message
<19990920114211...@ng-cd1.aol.com>...
>Hello everyone,

>
>I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
>product line. And, since the discussion has become so heated, I thought
I'd
>take the time to ask everyone if they would prefer that I not post those

Ferretnews

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for your support and rest assured I don't see your nice comments as a
green light to rev up the ad-fertising :)

I know that if the ads do get out of hand, folks will let me know about it--
and I'd have no problem with that.

Besides, it's not good business to irritate potential customers :) I do enough
irritating in my other line of work!

william killian

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> Sister Helen,
> You can't please everyone.

So are you trying for pissing off everyone instead? You were getting
good
comments until you got stupid.



> Michael,
> Boy did I get your true colors out or what???

Gee, what an accomplishment. No one else has managed that. Wow!

> You think you bite hard but all you've proven is : That you know a few bad words ><potty-mouth>,

Oh gosh, you called him a potty mouth. I'm sure he's stung to the core.

> and how short you fuse is. I expected a little more from you than a
> temper tantrum < so pitiful>. I feel sorry for you....BooHoo!!!

>I thought you were intelligent but, I was wrong.

No. Actually despite his use of vulgarities Michael is rather bright.

>I'm sure everyone is sick of your mouth...

Sometimes.

>Who's buying the popcorn for this one???

Sorry you aren't entertaining enough. At least you did make a referral
that does connect
back to the group. Was it an accident?

> Sister Helen,
> You're siding with satan!!! EXORCISE THE DEMON!!!! AMEN......

Shades of Flbimbo...

And Nanzi the Nazi is still an idiot too.... Maybe she'll buy your
artwork. Maybe she'll
side with you.


Notice the numbers coming out and saying "no way"?


Yeah, I'm a little bored this evening...

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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I guess I owe an apology....

Not for what i've said in this thread....but I was reminded that I have also
posted information on Ebay auctions...and to my iGive page in my signature.

If this has offended anyone, I apologize. I still stand by what I said to
Michelle, and just think that the attitude spoiled an otherwise nice project
to help a shelter.

Kim

Signature removed

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>
> Michelle <FLOW...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

william killian

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That was a bizarre pile of crap.

But the point you and your ding dong sister are missing is that most of
us weren't
bothered by the first post. It was the vinegar attitude. You're just
compounding it.

william killian

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Helen Dudley Bates wrote:

>
> Flowerdog wrote:
> >Sister Helen,
> >You're siding with satan!!! EXORCISE THE DEMON!!!!
> >AMEN......
>
> I tried, but you won't leave. Linda, Michael is very well-respected here. He
> cares very much about ferrets, though he has little tolerance for fools. So

> why don't you pack up your mediocre scratch-art and head off somewhere else?

Got at least three pro/semipro artists in the family. You're being far
more than
kind to call it 'mediocre'.

The face of the sable is more like a raccoon. The jaw is 'deformed'
with a twist
to the right. The ears are badly uneven size wise. She missed the
little 'point'
in the upper outer corner. The eyes are too far from the snout. At
least she
didn't misspell her name.

Wasn't going to bother looking until she got so nasty.

What the heck is that thing in the whatever the hell its sleeping in?
Looks more
like a polar bear than a ferret. The ears are a bit better but that
face is wrong
other than that. Real goofy looking bed thing but thats not too big a
deal.

The sable and white pair is better. Not a real good face on the sable
but I've
seen worse. But we should feel real sorry for the white one. Poor
thing is missing a leg after all.

william killian

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Ferretnews wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I know I'm guilty of posting information about updates to my site and to my
> product line.

Even though there is a history of us not getting along. But you DO post
information and join in conversations. Makes a BIG difference.

And I have noticed a change in you for what I'd consider the better
recently
as well. This post of yours is a part of that.

Melissa Golden

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No appology necessary. I feel that Michelle's original post about Linda's
artwork was fine. i even asked for further info. It was the ensuing
attitude that was annoying. I replied to Jeanne that her 'advertisements'
were always accompanied by a 'happy attitude', so ergo... no problemo. Same
for you Sunshiney Kim :) Put your igive back in your sig, and keep lettin'
me know when you've got stuff up on ebay- someday it will coinside with when
I have money! (Don't hold your breath though, I'm gonna be missing work for
6 weeks next month.... I'd better stock up on raisins now)

-M & Ewok (give me that last paycheck and let me do the shopping)


KiSta Ferret Rescue wrote in message <7s6nc8$h00$1...@news1.exit109.com>...


>I guess I owe an apology....
>
>Not for what i've said in this thread....but I was reminded that I have
also
>posted information on Ebay auctions...and to my iGive page in my signature.
>
>If this has offended anyone, I apologize. I still stand by what I said to
>Michelle, and just think that the attitude spoiled an otherwise nice
project
>to help a shelter.
>
>Kim
>
>Signature removed
>
>KiSta Ferret Rescue <kista...@exit109.com> wrote in message
>news:7s68vt$5s3$1...@news1.exit109.com...
>>

>> Michelle <FLOW...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

Melissa Golden

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The fish ones were the only interesting ones that the postal teller had in
her drawer. The girl on lunch suposedly had some cool desert scene ones.
But touching another postal employees drawer is not allowed :(
*Sigh* Next time.

-M & Ewok

Ferretnews wrote in message
<19990920202503...@ng-cr1.aol.com>...
>Hi Melissa,
>
>Hey, you were nice to send those beautiful stamps as a donation and we've
sent
>you a thank you card. Russell and Swamp (and I'm probably missing some
folks
>that have donated in the past and I apologize for that) also have helped
out
>and we try to get a card sent every time. But the lady that works for me
put
>one of your donated stamps (we were really taken with the fish)! So I
reminded
>her that I take care of the postage on the thank you's and replaced your
>gorgeous fish stamp with one of my ugly flag ones! That explains the fish
>stamp!!!

william killian

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Melissa Golden wrote:
> (Don't hold your breath though, I'm gonna be missing work for
> 6 weeks next month.... I'd better stock up on raisins now)

Wow! They work you too hard! You have to get 6 weeks in during a
month? I can't
get much more than 4... <grin>

-- bill
-----
bill and diane killian
zen and the art of ferrets
http://www.zenferret.com/
mailto:kil...@zenferret.com

Ferretnews

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Larry C. Lyons

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In article <14477-37...@newsd-622.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Linda,

Your reactions and attitude causes me to add my name to the list of
people who will not touch your stuff. As for the art being good, I've
seen other stuff that was consistently better, and for more reasonable
prices. Consider yourself killfiled.

As an aside to the rest, I first started onto usenet just before AOL
began its big invasion, and there was a considerable proliferation of
fools and ignorant types who used an AOL address. From what I've seen
from WebTV users, those AOL fools and idiots must have transferred enmass
to WebTV.

Regards,
larry

Larry C. Lyons | email: mailto://sol...@NOSPAMmnsinc.com
| To reply remove the NOSPAM from the above address.
| Home Page: http://www.mnsinc.com/solomon

My opinions alone, no one else will take responsibility for them!
========================================================
Life is Complex. It has both real and imaginary parts.
========================================================

Kelly Skoty

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>But I will leave with respect for myself and those I wish to help.
>

Why are you still here?
Kelly and the two fuzzbutts...
Stinky ("Litterbox? I don''t need no stinkin' litterbox!")
Geek ("But Mom, the fireplace NEEDS to be cleaned!")

JABBER1055

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> That's why all the people smart enough to use a computer
>have told you that you're wrong.

Well Michael I don't think she was all wroung in the whole thing. Yeah maybe
she was wroung to mess with you :-) But I really like her pics. I think she
does a great job and I am happy that she posted and told me where to get them (
I know you do not agree ) I for one do not check shopping boards and I would
have never known of these pics if not for this board ( and yes I like them )
Michael I love you think your great and I understand where your comming from I
also know she did come after you but have to say she doe good work and I know I
could not do that. She really should be able to post here. Please make up and
be friends both of you okay
Kelly, Snowball,Sabrina, Buddy & Brock

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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Melissa Sez:
Same for you Sunshiney Kim :)

LOL :) thanks Melissa for the good laugh!!! Ask Sam how "sunshiney" I am
when she calls to wake me in the morning!!

Seriously, I also had absolutely NO problem with the initial post. Problem
arose when the attitude went south.

And hey Sunshine....I think thats the first post ive seen you do without a
link! (the one about Michael, his skinless weasel and his mouth). Nice
work!!

:)

Kim


--
Please help us help the ferrets by visiting Eyegive at
http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=4030&mid=7501 We receive $2.00 for
every new person who signs on, and its totally free to help us. Thank you
from the ferrets.

Melissa Golden <mgo...@stargate.net> wrote in message
news:9GBF3.1293$vU3.4...@news.sgi.net...


> No appology necessary. I feel that Michelle's original post about Linda's
> artwork was fine. i even asked for further info. It was the ensuing
> attitude that was annoying. I replied to Jeanne that her 'advertisements'
> were always accompanied by a 'happy attitude', so ergo... no problemo.
Same
> for you Sunshiney Kim :) Put your igive back in your sig, and keep lettin'
> me know when you've got stuff up on ebay- someday it will coinside with
when

> I have money! (Don't hold your breath though, I'm gonna be missing work


for
> 6 weeks next month.... I'd better stock up on raisins now)
>

> -M & Ewok (give me that last paycheck and let me do the shopping)
>
>
> KiSta Ferret Rescue wrote in message <7s6nc8$h00$1...@news1.exit109.com>...
> >I guess I owe an apology....
> >
> >Not for what i've said in this thread....but I was reminded that I have
> also
> >posted information on Ebay auctions...and to my iGive page in my
signature.
> >
> >If this has offended anyone, I apologize. I still stand by what I said
to
> >Michelle, and just think that the attitude spoiled an otherwise nice
> project
> >to help a shelter.
> >
> >Kim
> >
> >Signature removed
> >
> >KiSta Ferret Rescue <kista...@exit109.com> wrote in message
> >news:7s68vt$5s3$1...@news1.exit109.com...
> >>

> >> Michelle <FLOW...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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oops make that :

HAIRLESS WEASEL

LOL

Im tired.

--
Please help us help the ferrets by visiting Eyegive at
http://www.iGive.com/html/ssi.cfm?cid=4030&mid=7501 We receive $2.00 for
every new person who signs on, and its totally free to help us. Thank you
from the ferrets.

KiSta Ferret Rescue <fer...@kistaferret.com> wrote in message
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> > >> Michelle <FLOW...@prodigy.net> wrote in message

NCFS

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Thats OK Kim I gave her a few links <VBEG> I guess she didn't have any
for that post.

KiSta Ferret Rescue wrote:
>

>
> And hey Sunshine....I think thats the first post ive seen you do without a
> link! (the one about Michael, his skinless weasel and his mouth). Nice
> work!!
>
> :)
>
> Kim

--

Michael & Robyn

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KiSta Ferret Rescue wrote:

> I guess I owe an apology....
>
> Not for what i've said in this thread....but I was reminded that I have also
> posted information on Ebay auctions...and to my iGive page in my signature.
>
> If this has offended anyone, I apologize. I still stand by what I said to
> Michelle, and just think that the attitude spoiled an otherwise nice project
> to help a shelter.

Sheesh, sorry Kim. I missed it. I think it was drowned out by your relevant
content :)
(Sorry!)

-Michael


Michael & Robyn

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JABBER1055 wrote:

> Well Michael I don't think she was all wroung in the whole thing. Yeah maybe
> she was wroung to mess with you :-) But I really like her pics. I think she
> does a great job and I am happy that she posted and told me where to get them (
> I know you do not agree ) I for one do not check shopping boards and I would
> have never known of these pics if not for this board ( and yes I like them )
> Michael I love you think your great and I understand where your comming from I
> also know she did come after you but have to say she doe good work and I know I
> could not do that. She really should be able to post here. Please make up and
> be friends both of you okay
> Kelly, Snowball,Sabrina, Buddy & Brock

Yes, Kelly, I am sorry it didn't turn out better. I thought the pictures were cute
too. After everyone's input, I was almost ready to relent my position. (Which is
rare). However, I tried to gently point the correct path, and was attacked for my
efforts.

Be wary, Kelly, because there are also people who would like to flood this
newsgroup with advertising just because it's free. I shut these people down on a
daily basis, just so you don't have to see spam of people having sex with animals.
How would you like to put up with a dialy plug for ferret artwork from this
cretin? From her attitude, is apparent that her intentions were not in the best
interests of this group. You already know my intentions are hyper-defensive.

If anyone is really dissapointed, send me your ferret pictures, and I will put them
through some Photoshop filters that will simulate oil painting, watercolors,
charcoal, sketches, even scratchy etches. Of course, since the results are
related to the original photographs, they will be flawless in reproduction, and of
very high quality. Unlike spam. If you like the work, send a few bucks to your
favorite shelter.

Click below, and send me the scan of your ferret picture, and how you'd like it
rendered. This is free.
mailto:mas...@gte.net

-Michael


Melissa 'Skunk' Drake

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In article <5858-37E...@newsd-621.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
FLOWE...@webtv.net (Linda) wrote:
> Michael,
> Who died and made you the boss of this forum???? Everyone is
advertising
> on here!!!!!!!

Oh, my, everyone? I mean, really?
Gracious, I haden't noticed.
In fact, I'd be surprised if most people advertised. In fact, I suspect
only the few people running shelters advertise, and Ms. Carrley, of
course.

>If you want to be an ass about it, I guess that fits
> you....

By the way, could you fit any MORE exclamation points into your
replies? It screams quality.

>Why do you and other people write about things that do't apply to
> ferrets at all here???? I donate 20% of my earnings to ferret
> shelters...

Guess what? I donate my art. I guess that makes me a bigger hero that
you. If we were trying to figure out heros. Which we aren't. Don't play
the I'm holier than thou game with Mikey.. you'll lose.

> What do you do besides put your nose in
> places it shouldn't be?????

Like this newsgroup?

Heck, I never post. I don't have a ferret to post about. But I don't
like you. I don't like your attitude, I don't like your art, and I
don't like your spam.

Guess that makes me a jelious @$$hole with a bad attitude.
But heck, it's worth saying.

Melissa
vive le furet libre


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

Linda

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Okay Michelle,
Would you please drop this whole thing already!!!! You have caused me
more trouble than I did to myself. I should have never posted here in
the first place. There is no reason for the foul language from you or
Michael or anyone else. Everyone got out of hand here and I tried to
quietly depart but... you keep trying to defend me!
I do not care if people don't like my work. I enjoy doing it. The great
artists do what comes from there heart, whether it makes sense or
approved of or disapproved of. In art there are no rules. We do not have
to be totally realistic. Creativity comes from within. I did not know
what spamming meant to start with!!! Now that I know what it is, I'm
sorry I came off that way. I only wanted to be a part of a group. I'm
not wanted so I'll go. I took everything way too serious and spouted
off. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion here and I
should have ignored what I did not like to hear. So please everyone,
drop it. Kelly, Thank you.
Linda

Sam

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Linda wrote:

> I only wanted to be a part of a group. I'm not wanted so I'll go.

The problem wasn't with Michelle's original post - well, Michael was getting
a little hypersensitive, but at least he was being politely hypersensitive
:o) Nor was the problem with your first post, although it *did* come off a
little like a prepaid advertisment! <G> Most people here were adamantly
defending you and your work here. Unfortunately, the responses from both
yourself and Michelle were what ended up turning the tables.

Most of the regulars here get somewhat sensitive when they perceive a person
new to the newsgroup is attacking a regular, which I believe is why you got
so many negative responses after a while.

I'm sure if you spent some time settling in, post a little and become a
little better known, you would get to know what the people here are like and
what is considered acceptable and what isn't. Your pictures seemed to be
considered acceptable by the majority - Michael is a lovely guy, especially
when you get to know him, but *has* been known to go off the handle a little
at times, although rarely unprovoked - and I'm sure they would be
appreciated in the future. If you let everyone here get to know *you* and
not just post about your art, perhaps it would be accepted a little better
in the future.

Take Jeanne Carley as an example. She has some wonderful, wonderful work. I
live in awe of what wonders she can do with the camera, film, and a good
graphics editing programme. I'm also in awe of the sheer manhours (is that a
politically correct phrase in this day and age? 'person hours' just doesn't
have the same ring <G>) she puts in to the California Ferret Legalisation
effort, not to mention her help to other States or areas in need (such as
New York City etc) Her occasional post about her delightful products are not
only accepted, but usually gratefully appreciated by many here. Personally,
I'm already waiting for her 2001 Calendar hehehe I think she oughta come
here to New Zealand and take photos of my guys. C'mon Jeanne, you've only
seen a couple of my little girls! Maybe you can do a calendar with
'handicapped' ferrets? Not sure I think of Gemn as handicapped, but then,
she doesn't have a tail so, she'd count... I think <G>

A first post which is direct advertising wasn't a happy start. A second,
third... (etc) post slamming a regular was a definite booboo, but people
have done worse and come through unscathed <G> This is one of the joys of an
unmoderated newsgroup. If you should decide to stay and keep us company,
you're welcome. If you choose not to, that's your choice.

Just my two cents on the topic anyway.

Sam


JABBER1055

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>Be wary, Kelly, because there are also people who would like to flood this
>newsgroup with advertising just because it's free.

Point well taken :-)

JABBER1055

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>I'm sure if you spent some time settling in, post a little and become a
>little better known, you would get to know what the people here are like and
>what is considered acceptable and what isn't.

As always your right Sam :-) I don't think anyone here wants you to leave I
think we all just want this over with :-)

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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Of course Sam has said everything which I wanted to, in a much better way
than I could have this early in the morning.

I don't want to see you leave the group.....I just want this ugliness to be
over. :) I wish you the best of luck with your art; as i've said before I
really do like it, and it could really help your sisters shelter. Thanks
for helping the ferrets.

Kim

.
Sam <fan...@iname.comREMOVE> wrote in message
news:37E77255...@iname.comREMOVE...


> Linda wrote:
>
> > I only wanted to be a part of a group. I'm not wanted so I'll go.
>
> The problem wasn't with Michelle's original post - well, Michael was
getting
> a little hypersensitive, but at least he was being politely hypersensitive
> :o) Nor was the problem with your first post, although it *did* come off a
> little like a prepaid advertisment! <G> Most people here were adamantly
> defending you and your work here. Unfortunately, the responses from both
> yourself and Michelle were what ended up turning the tables.
>
> Most of the regulars here get somewhat sensitive when they perceive a
person
> new to the newsgroup is attacking a regular, which I believe is why you
got
> so many negative responses after a while.
>

> I'm sure if you spent some time settling in, post a little and become a
> little better known, you would get to know what the people here are like
and

Ferretnews

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>C'mon Jeanne, you've only
>seen a couple of my little girls! Maybe you can do a calendar with
>'handicapped' ferrets?

Sam, that little six year old (was it six or seven) with the incredible coat
that I met at the airport was phenomenal!!! I should do an oldies calendar
with just foofies over 5.

If I had the $$ to fly to NZ, rent a studio or borrow someone's large garage,
and spend a month, I'd photograph all your little guys. As it is, I travel to
Oregon quite a bit and to Nevada as well because they're close, a cheap.

Maybe you can talk Anne Geddes into inviting me to share her photo studio for a
month. Someone once told me they thought I was the Anne Geddes of ferret
photography. :)

Ferretnews

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>And I have noticed a change in you for what I'd consider the better
>recently
>as well.

Hey, likewise! :)

Melissa Golden

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ugh, I meant 6 weeks starting in the middle of next month. (but sometimes I
feel like I work 6!!) Come on, you all should know what I mean even if I
don't say it right <vbg>

-M

william killian wrote in message <37E6EADF...@mnsinc.com>...


>Melissa Golden wrote:
>> (Don't hold your breath though, I'm gonna be missing work for
>> 6 weeks next month.... I'd better stock up on raisins now)
>

Ferretnews

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>Ms. Carrley

I hope you'll just call me Jeanne! That sounds sooooo old. :)

swamp

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On 21 Sep 1999 16:15:19 GMT, ferre...@aol.com (Ferretnews)
wrote in <19990921121519...@ng-fy1.aol.com>:

><On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:44:43 -0400, william killian
><kil...@mnsinc.com> wrote in <37E6E30B...@mnsinc.com>:

>>And I have noticed a change in you for what I'd consider the better
>>recently
>>as well.
>
>Hey, likewise! :)

Well I'll be d-d-d-dummed.

>Jeanne Carley
>Founder Californians for Ferret Legalization
>http://www.ferretnews.org

swamp

"Who, me officer? What's a ferut? These guys?? No, they're Polish cats."

Paul E. Jamison

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Ferretnews wrote:

Jeanne, you say you travel to Oregon; have you ever been to
the Friends of Fuzzies shelter in Bend? When Sam mentioned
"handicapped" ferrets, I thought of their spokesferret, Big
Bear, the dude with the wheelchair. I'd be more than happy
to own a picture of this guy taken by the Anne Geddes of
ferret photography.

(For other people's edification, FoF's website is at
http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/Farm/2057

There's a link to Big Bear's page.)

Since my SO's two fuzzbutts are 8 & 9, I'd stump
for the oldies calendar, too.

Paul E. Jamison, Esq. (who will continue to buy the
Ferret Calendar for as long as Jeanne produces it)

--

"BABYLON 5! A five-mile long cement mixer of truth, pouring out the
Concrete of Nice-Nice in a long, grey ribbon into the future, to form a
***SIDE WALK OF JUSTICE!!***"
- The Tick on Babylon 5

Melissa

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In article <19990921121353...@ng-fy1.aol.com>,
ferre...@aol.com (Ferretnews) wrote:

(snip)



> Maybe you can talk Anne Geddes into inviting me to share her photo
studio for a
> month. Someone once told me they thought I was the Anne Geddes of ferret
> photography. :)

Ok, now *this* could be funny... How about for your next callendar, you do
a ferret version of an Anne Geddes-type Callendar? Ferrets dressed up as
flowers peeking out of pots, sleeping on branches dressed up like lady
bugs or butterflys... hee hee! This could be so much fun! Would you need
permission for that? I'm really liking this idea LOL! :) Maybe the next
year, she could make a callendar w/ babies on skate boards and sleeping in
champagne glasses...hmmmmm.......Nope..... Not as cute! <g>

-Melissa

KiSta Ferret Rescue

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Hi Melissa!!

I was printing up t-shirts today, with YOUR logo that you designed for us
(free of charge, of course!), and it struck me clean in the face that if
anyone should have one, its YOU. And, im such a slacker, i've never sent
you one.

Please email me with your address and i'll get one out to you tomorrow.
Right now, I only have pink or white shirts to choose from, but pick which
one you want, and i'll get it right out to ya. :)

My sister, who was an art major and now an art teacher absolutely loves your
design. I had asked her in the beginning to draw me something, but she is
just as lazy & procrastinating as I am, so it never materialized. Now she
has the excuse of "well this one is wonderful" to fall back on.

Thanks again :)

kim


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Rebecca Belling

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Melissa wrote:

> In article <19990921121353...@ng-fy1.aol.com>,
> ferre...@aol.com (Ferretnews) wrote:
>
> (snip)
>
> > Maybe you can talk Anne Geddes into inviting me to share her photo
> studio for a
> > month. Someone once told me they thought I was the Anne Geddes of ferret
> > photography. :)
>
> Ok, now *this* could be funny... How about for your next callendar, you do
> a ferret version of an Anne Geddes-type Callendar? Ferrets dressed up as
> flowers peeking out of pots, sleeping on branches dressed up like lady
> bugs or butterflys... hee hee! This could be so much fun!

What a great idea! It would be totally cute!~

william killian

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swamp wrote:
> ><On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 21:44:43 -0400, william killian
> ><kil...@mnsinc.com> wrote in <37E6E30B...@mnsinc.com>:
>
> >>And I have noticed a change in you for what I'd consider the better
> >>recently
> >>as well.
> >
> >Hey, likewise! :)
>
> Well I'll be d-d-d-dummed.

So well you should have seen Lisa and I having a very friendly chat or
three on Saturday...

I guess some of us (yes me too) are just getting over our silly
stages...

william killian

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swamp wrote:
>
> >So well you should have seen Lisa and I having a very friendly chat or
> >three on Saturday...
>
> I'll go back and look. I was otherwise occupied this
> weekend.

Well I meant in person at the show in North Carolina... but you can
look if you want... <g>

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