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CKRAUZYK
Dec 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/11/99
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Hi I wrote last week about one of my shar-pei's because he was growlinmg at our
visitors well tonight while he was eating my other pei who he has always been
around and is 2 yrs older but more laid back then he walked over to grab a
bite of his food <------they have been eating together for 3 yrs or more , and
my growling pei grabbed his face and tore into his flesh drawing blood, he
wouldn't let go until my husband slapped him? what is going on with him??
Also I have a 6 and a 3 yr old and I am so scared now when they get near him
when he is eating .We always made sure to pet him while there were eating???
Thanks for listening Carolyn, Thai and Matu
visitors well tonight while he was eating my other pei who he has always been
around and is 2 yrs older but more laid back then he walked over to grab a
bite of his food <------they have been eating together for 3 yrs or more , and
my growling pei grabbed his face and tore into his flesh drawing blood, he
wouldn't let go until my husband slapped him? what is going on with him??
Also I have a 6 and a 3 yr old and I am so scared now when they get near him
when he is eating .We always made sure to pet him while there were eating???
Thanks for listening Carolyn, Thai and Matu
Nancy Thomann
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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Carolyn, I am going to take a lot of flack for this advice, but if
opinions are all taken together a broader picture will appear.
You can NOT allow this to continue. Have you ever tryed to break up a
true sharpei fight? I have. It is pure adrenlin and frenzy for the
dogs, and if you manage to get out of it unscathed, they will surely not
be. I am not condemming here, I learned the hard way myself,,no one
eats together. No bowl sharing, no checking on other bowls. If you need
to use crates or seperate rooms, do it.
The nest time this male growls for any reason you pick him up by the
extra folds on the neck and shake the living s--t out of him. Do not
smack him or he will become hand shy too. While shaking him tell him I
WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS.
As for your children (or any one elses for that matter) and I beter put
my armor on before I say this...If ANY of my dogs showed aggression to a
child, it would be put down immediately. With the rare instance of a
kid antagonizing a dog, that is just uncalled for and dangerous.
Back to the shaking, I have only had to do this on 2 dogs, and the
action they were shook for never recurred. I taught obedience classes
for a few ears, and worked as a groomer. Dogs must know who in in
charge, and some will really push for it to be them instead of you. To
the others reading this, if you totally disagree with me thats ok, I
could have posted this privately and no one else would have been the
wiser to my advice. I do not ever want to try to pull 2 fighting males
off each other again in my life. I have little or no sensation in my
right fingers from nerve damage I recd when I put my hands where they
did not belong during a fight. I do not want to ever get a call from
someone saying they own a shar pei from so and so and it just bit their
kid..do I want it?
opinions are all taken together a broader picture will appear.
You can NOT allow this to continue. Have you ever tryed to break up a
true sharpei fight? I have. It is pure adrenlin and frenzy for the
dogs, and if you manage to get out of it unscathed, they will surely not
be. I am not condemming here, I learned the hard way myself,,no one
eats together. No bowl sharing, no checking on other bowls. If you need
to use crates or seperate rooms, do it.
The nest time this male growls for any reason you pick him up by the
extra folds on the neck and shake the living s--t out of him. Do not
smack him or he will become hand shy too. While shaking him tell him I
WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS.
As for your children (or any one elses for that matter) and I beter put
my armor on before I say this...If ANY of my dogs showed aggression to a
child, it would be put down immediately. With the rare instance of a
kid antagonizing a dog, that is just uncalled for and dangerous.
Back to the shaking, I have only had to do this on 2 dogs, and the
action they were shook for never recurred. I taught obedience classes
for a few ears, and worked as a groomer. Dogs must know who in in
charge, and some will really push for it to be them instead of you. To
the others reading this, if you totally disagree with me thats ok, I
could have posted this privately and no one else would have been the
wiser to my advice. I do not ever want to try to pull 2 fighting males
off each other again in my life. I have little or no sensation in my
right fingers from nerve damage I recd when I put my hands where they
did not belong during a fight. I do not want to ever get a call from
someone saying they own a shar pei from so and so and it just bit their
kid..do I want it?
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Dale Blumenthal
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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Your pei probably feels too much competition from your other pei. It
seems to me he feels threatened by everybody else, that they'll take
away is status as top dog. That can make a dog feel very insecure.
seems to me he feels threatened by everybody else, that they'll take
away is status as top dog. That can make a dog feel very insecure.
Dale Blumenthal
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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My father had an English bulldog, an intact male, who loved to gnaw on
me. He didn't exactly bite, but he loved to gnaw on me and my arms and
legs were always bruised. He was very domineering. I wasn't exactly a
memeber of his pack (my family) because I visited him only every two
weeks. I was in a peculiar position, more like a visiting aunt to him.
He always stuck his nose in my pocketbook for presents. He was very
spoiled. He always jumped on my bed without my permissio, even if I
yelled at him "NO!" in a deep voice. He even growled if one didn't pet
him long enough.
Then he got neutered, but he was still rambunctious. He never bit
anybody, but he loved to gnaw to exert his dominance. He even gave the
vet a hard time, especially if he saw the vet with a needle. Then he
would decide he wasn' going to have anything to do with it. I guess I
don't blame him. Anyway, he got sick with an autoimmune disease and had
to be put down. In spite of it all, he was a good dog. Ufoer
me. He didn't exactly bite, but he loved to gnaw on me and my arms and
legs were always bruised. He was very domineering. I wasn't exactly a
memeber of his pack (my family) because I visited him only every two
weeks. I was in a peculiar position, more like a visiting aunt to him.
He always stuck his nose in my pocketbook for presents. He was very
spoiled. He always jumped on my bed without my permissio, even if I
yelled at him "NO!" in a deep voice. He even growled if one didn't pet
him long enough.
Then he got neutered, but he was still rambunctious. He never bit
anybody, but he loved to gnaw to exert his dominance. He even gave the
vet a hard time, especially if he saw the vet with a needle. Then he
would decide he wasn' going to have anything to do with it. I guess I
don't blame him. Anyway, he got sick with an autoimmune disease and had
to be put down. In spite of it all, he was a good dog. Ufoer
Blugr...@webtv.net
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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Nancy, I TOTALLY AGREE with what you said in this matter. I hadn't read
your post till AFTER I sent mine. You and I are on the same wavelength
here!
your post till AFTER I sent mine. You and I are on the same wavelength
here!
Judi
Blugr...@webtv.net
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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Dale, the ONLY "Top Dog" in any household should be the HUMAN.
Judi
Blugr...@webtv.net
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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Purchase two dog crates, and feed them INSIDE their crates. That will
prevent them from fightng each other, and also prevent them from biting
someone when they are eating.
Also, I feel that some sort of obedience training would be good
for both dogs. This growling thing is totally "unacceptable" and should
NOT be tolerated at all.
I could get down on all fours, stick my face right into each of my
dog's faces, and take a piece of steak right out of their mouths with my
mouth, with NO growling form a one of them. THAT is because "I" am
ALPHA around here, and they would NEVER dream of growling at me.
YOU need to become Alpha dog at your house, and let them know when
they behave inappropriately, they will have YOU to answer to.
Find a good obedience trainor (one who is highly recommended by
your local breed clubs) and take them there before someone gets hurt.
prevent them from fightng each other, and also prevent them from biting
someone when they are eating.
Also, I feel that some sort of obedience training would be good
for both dogs. This growling thing is totally "unacceptable" and should
NOT be tolerated at all.
I could get down on all fours, stick my face right into each of my
dog's faces, and take a piece of steak right out of their mouths with my
mouth, with NO growling form a one of them. THAT is because "I" am
ALPHA around here, and they would NEVER dream of growling at me.
YOU need to become Alpha dog at your house, and let them know when
they behave inappropriately, they will have YOU to answer to.
Find a good obedience trainor (one who is highly recommended by
your local breed clubs) and take them there before someone gets hurt.
Judi (-:
TampaFan
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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Our two share bowls and to date I have never witnessed any type of aggresion
from either one while eating. The younger female will sit by and wait for
the older male to finish his share. I then reload the bowl and all goes
well. We do use separate bowls when a 'special treat' of canned food is
given. neither wants to wit and it avoids potential conflicts.
from either one while eating. The younger female will sit by and wait for
the older male to finish his share. I then reload the bowl and all goes
well. We do use separate bowls when a 'special treat' of canned food is
given. neither wants to wit and it avoids potential conflicts.
I will also & forever maintain the 'top dog' status in my house. The back of
the neck grab and a loud voice has stopped all undesireable bahaviors to
date.
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Nancy Thomann
Dec 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/12/99
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thank you for backing me up. I was afraid of being slammed for beig
brutally honest. I have dealt with many many breeds, and the only fight
harder to break up is bull terriors. nancy
brutally honest. I have dealt with many many breeds, and the only fight
harder to break up is bull terriors. nancy
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Nancy Thomann
Dec 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/13/99
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I fed this way for years and thought that the people telling me it would
cause a conflict one day were crazy. Trust me, when it happens, it is
intense. I just wish I had listened. These were dogs that had grown up
together, shared bowls, beds, toys and one day something made someone
mad and all hell broke loose.
cause a conflict one day were crazy. Trust me, when it happens, it is
intense. I just wish I had listened. These were dogs that had grown up
together, shared bowls, beds, toys and one day something made someone
mad and all hell broke loose.
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Kenneth D. Bledsoe
Dec 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/14/99
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CKRAUZYK wrote:
> Hi I wrote last week about one of my shar-pei's because he was growlinmg at our
> visitors well tonight while he was eating my other pei who he has always been
> around and is 2 yrs older but more laid back then he walked over to grab a
> bite of his food <------they have been eating together for 3 yrs or more , and
> my growling pei grabbed his face and tore into his flesh drawing blood, he
> wouldn't let go until my husband slapped him? what is going on with him??
> Also I have a 6 and a 3 yr old and I am so scared now when they get near him
> when he is eating .We always made sure to pet him while there were eating???
> Thanks for listening Carolyn, Thai and Matu
Are your pei's both male dogs? If so you might have one of them neutered as this
seems to be a territorial problem. If you would of had them both from birth then
it would have been okay.
Blugr...@webtv.net
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
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You're welcome Nancy. In my opinion, the ONLY reason that dogs
mis-behave or get out of control, is because the owner either does no
know HOW to be Alpha, or is afraid to be. Dogs are animals and must be
controlled by "re-inforcement" in the form of firmness. I have 16 adult
dogs, and they ALL live in my home. While they do have their crates for
when I'm not home, while I am home, I like to be able to allow several
at a time to be loose in the house with me. That means they BETTER GET
ALONG OR ELSE!!
No growling, no grumbling, no picking fighs! If they so much as
"rumble" in their throats, the "aggressor" gets shown in NO UNCERTAIN
TERMS that this type of behavior is not appreciated, not tolerated, and
not allowed! I ALWAYS have the upper hand with my dogs.
Now, a novice may thing I"m a meanie. Untrue. My dogs LOVE me,
and they also LOVE everyone else! My dogs are some of the friendliest
pei anyone has ever seen. They all run to get petted first when company
comes. They are well adjusted and happy. All because they know their
place in the order around here, and not only love me, but 'respect' me!
And that is how it should be.
mis-behave or get out of control, is because the owner either does no
know HOW to be Alpha, or is afraid to be. Dogs are animals and must be
controlled by "re-inforcement" in the form of firmness. I have 16 adult
dogs, and they ALL live in my home. While they do have their crates for
when I'm not home, while I am home, I like to be able to allow several
at a time to be loose in the house with me. That means they BETTER GET
ALONG OR ELSE!!
No growling, no grumbling, no picking fighs! If they so much as
"rumble" in their throats, the "aggressor" gets shown in NO UNCERTAIN
TERMS that this type of behavior is not appreciated, not tolerated, and
not allowed! I ALWAYS have the upper hand with my dogs.
Now, a novice may thing I"m a meanie. Untrue. My dogs LOVE me,
and they also LOVE everyone else! My dogs are some of the friendliest
pei anyone has ever seen. They all run to get petted first when company
comes. They are well adjusted and happy. All because they know their
place in the order around here, and not only love me, but 'respect' me!
And that is how it should be.
Judi
Nancy Thomann
Dec 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/15/99
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You are very lucky. I have 2 males that are extremely male aggressive.
They CAN NOT be together. They can run with all the girls, they can be
with the other males in my presence, but the 2 of them had a fight
once, and will not forget it. I have let them run the propery loose
together, but its different then. Once in the runs, seperation is
called for. The funny thing is they were from different litters, neal
the same age grew up together, shared bowls, kennels, toys everything.
They used to be best buddies until someone was in heat, neither of them
were "gonna get her" and their brains just lobbed for a sec.
They CAN NOT be together. They can run with all the girls, they can be
with the other males in my presence, but the 2 of them had a fight
once, and will not forget it. I have let them run the propery loose
together, but its different then. Once in the runs, seperation is
called for. The funny thing is they were from different litters, neal
the same age grew up together, shared bowls, kennels, toys everything.
They used to be best buddies until someone was in heat, neither of them
were "gonna get her" and their brains just lobbed for a sec.
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djuo...@gmail.com
Dec 27, 2016, 6:55:26 AM12/27/16
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I totally Agree with this man!! Thank you so very much! I have 18 week old attack me once for taking his bone cuz he brought in the house. He knew not to he has his own patio. Then he attack me for washing his face in shower. He seems so timid when I socialize him often. I love and spoil him but now I'm scared at times. He can be so sweet. I just don't know what to do. My husband is home 2 days a week only. He doesn't do that when husband is home. ??? I walk him 3 times a day long walks. He tries to fight I know about not getting involved with Shari Pei fights for sure. Hippo mouths
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