Neighborhood pit bull: destroyed (probably)
Onyx_Hokie
2:56pm : call to Sheriff
2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
one of them looks like it may not survive
3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
If that pit bull is seen in this neighborhood again, I will be very
surprised. I'm sure I won't be the only one to contact the local
authorities to insist that either the dog is removed or that a high
fence is put around its yard.
Go ahead, Toby... tell me that pit bull wasn't a danger to the kids
getting off of their schoolbus. Tell me that we didn't perhaps avoid
the death of a child in this area thanks to the pit bull being spotted
and the quick response of the local Sheriff.
Tell me that I'd have been wrong to go out and handle the situation
myself had the local Sheriff not shown up. Go ahead.. tell me that BS,
Toby. Let's hear it. I'm waiting.
Onyx_Hokie
[ alpha.bob© | alpha.bob©@sbcglobal.net ]
[ <pgfaj2djc6lurm08t...@4ax.com> ]
:On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:11:24 -0400, Onyx_Hokie <onyx_...@yahoo.cem>
:wrote:
:<BS SNIPPED>
:
:Who the hell is "Toby" and why do you insist on crossposting? You
:act like a AOL noob. ;-(
The cross-posted groups are relevant to the topic at hand. Don't fall
into the ignorant trap of assuming that all cross-posting is evil.
We had a discussion on RSFC a short while ago about pit bulls, and Toby
Drake emerged as the local Cute Cuddly Pit Bull Apologist.
Jon Enslin
alpha.bob© wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:11:24 -0400, Onyx_Hokie <onyx_...@yahoo.cem>
> wrote:
> <BS SNIPPED>
>
> Who the hell is "Toby" and why do you insist on crossposting? You
> act like a AOL noob. ;-(
A "noob?"
What are you...in fourth grade???
Jon
winnard
"Onyx_Hokie" <onyx_...@yahoo.cem> wrote in message
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> 2:55pm : neighborhood pit bull seen roaming the neighborhood
>
> 2:56pm : call to Sheriff
>
> 2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
>
> 3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
>
> 3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
>
> 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
>
> 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
> one of them looks like it may not survive
>
> 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
>
>
3:26pm : I would've fed that dog his own eyeballs to him via his asshole.
winnard
Onyx_Hokie
[ winnard | 8tr...@cox.net ]
[ <KhcZg.18764$vC3.14257@dukeread02> ]
:> 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
:> 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
:> one of them looks like it may not survive
:> 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
: 3:26pm : I would've fed that dog his own eyeballs to him via his asshole.
If not for 3:08pm, indeed.
miand...@students.mcg.edu
Onyx_Hokie wrote:
(story of pit bull roaming neighborhood)
Jesus slick, what kind of neighborhood do you live in? You may want to
just move....I've driven through some sort of sketchy neighborhoods
before, and I don't ever recall the pit bull mayhem/rifles going off to
gun down pit bulls in the neighborhood kind of scenarios you have
described?
If that story is true though, of course the pit bull will be destroyed
and of course it should be. I don't think mercellus would disagree
with that.
miand...@students.mcg.edu
Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
>
> That brings me to this. I was 26 at the time, my sister was 20 and
> the family, parents and all, were sitting out in the back yard on a
> nice summer day while all the kids played around the pool, etc...
>
> We were at my home and I had a mixed chow breed dog, weighed about 70
> pounds, not a slouch by any means. Since all the family was around, I
> let my dog out of it's pen in my backyard and it was hanging around,
> eating food, playing with all the kids, enjoying itself, but, it was
> out in the free world. I always stayed with him when I let him out.
>
> Anyway, out of nowhere comes this Pit from 4 doors down that could
> never be kept in it's pen. He always wandered through my yard and
> would come up to my dog's fence and they would bark at each other.
>
> It continually got out, had the police called on it numerous times by
> some of my neighbors fearful for their children, fought with any dog
> it found out in the open around the neighborhood, suspected but never
> proven to have killed a couple of small little dogs.
>
> It didn't hesitate to plow into my dog and they started going at it. I
> wasn't even going to get involved, because my dog was doing okay, not
> exactly winning, but not getting beat either. I figured, let them get
> it out of their systems and that would be it.
???? riiight, that pit bull would have probably killed or seriously
injured your dog. Regardless, when a pit bull spars with another dog,
there isn't any "let em get it out of their systems". It's a fight to
the death(for one dog or another usually).
>
> Unfortunately, my sister started freaking out and ran right up on them
> before anybody could get to her and started trying to pull that damn
> Pit off by pulling at it around the shoulders and pushing it,
> screaming, crying, etc...
yes, this is how a lot of people get attacked. They have a pet or
whatever and then they try to separate the pit bull and the pet and
then the pitbull just shifts its focus. Note to mercellus: that
doesn't mean that the pit bull was unneccessarily "provoked" to attack
an innocent human.
>
> That motherfucking Pit turned on her viciously, "locked" onto her
> biceps on her right arm and was twisting and shaking and turning his
> sorry ass head. My sister was, by this point, on the ground and
> screeching out god awful noises the likes of which I had never heard.
>
> I was shortly on top of it's back and went straight for both of it's
> stinking eyeballs. I stuck two fingers from each hand down into each
> eye sockets up to my knuckles. Pulled both eyes clean out of it's
> head.
riiiight....this story is getting better and better.
>
> By that time, the guy who owned the Pit Bull had heard all the
> screaming and commotion and his dog howling and came up the street to
> see what was happening.
>
> He got there just in time to see me pull the trigger on a Long Tom 12-
> gauge that ripped the dogs head clean off of it's neck as the barrel
> was only 2 feet away from it's head when it went off.
hmmm...riiight. Let me guess....the blood slowly dripped across the
well-manicured lawn into the concrete and spilled into the pool while
all the children stood by and watched?
Angie
please....................Our newsgroup is NOT about this crap..........
<miand...@students.mcg.edu> wrote in message
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r...@astro.yale.edu
> You know, everyone says that a Pit Bull will not let go and you can't
> beat them off of another person or another animal with a leg or a foot
> or a stick or a board because their jaws lock.
>
> I have seen Pit Bull owners practically give up before while trying to
> get one of their Pit's off another one of their own dogs.
>
> That brings me to this. I was 26 at the time, my sister was 20 and
> the family, parents and all, were sitting out in the back yard on a
> nice summer day while all the kids played around the pool, etc...
>
> We were at my home and I had a mixed chow breed dog, weighed about 70
> pounds, not a slouch by any means. Since all the family was around, I
> let my dog out of it's pen in my backyard and it was hanging around,
> eating food, playing with all the kids, enjoying itself, but, it was
> out in the free world. I always stayed with him when I let him out.
>
> Anyway, out of nowhere comes this Pit from 4 doors down that could
> never be kept in it's pen. He always wandered through my yard and
> would come up to my dog's fence and they would bark at each other.
>
> It continually got out, had the police called on it numerous times by
> some of my neighbors fearful for their children, fought with any dog
> it found out in the open around the neighborhood, suspected but never
> proven to have killed a couple of small little dogs.
>
> It didn't hesitate to plow into my dog and they started going at it. I
> wasn't even going to get involved, because my dog was doing okay, not
> exactly winning, but not getting beat either. I figured, let them get
> it out of their systems and that would be it.
>
> before anybody could get to her and started trying to pull that damn
> Pit off by pulling at it around the shoulders and pushing it,
> screaming, crying, etc...
>
> biceps on her right arm and was twisting and shaking and turning his
> sorry ass head. My sister was, by this point, on the ground and
> screeching out god awful noises the likes of which I had never heard.
>
> I was shortly on top of it's back and went straight for both of it's
> stinking eyeballs. I stuck two fingers from each hand down into each
> eye sockets up to my knuckles. Pulled both eyes clean out of it's
> head.
>
> gets ready to. That sorry ass dog let go of my sister immediately and
> went tumbling, yelping, threw me off of it's back like a horse, ran a
> few feet and fell, flopped around on it's back, got up, ran around in
> circles, scratching at his empty holes where his eyes used to be,
> etc...
>
> By that time, the guy who owned the Pit Bull had heard all the
> screaming and commotion and his dog howling and came up the street to
> see what was happening.
>
> He got there just in time to see me pull the trigger on a Long Tom 12-
> gauge that ripped the dogs head clean off of it's neck as the barrel
> what was left of his dog and kept his mouth shut other than saying how
> sorry he was. Yeah, right.
>
> Thankfully, with some reconstructive surgery on my sister's arm, you
> can hardly tell it ever bit her. I am 34 now, that was 8 years ago.
> Her arm looked pretty bad even after the surgery for a couple of
> years, but it is hardly noticeable now.
>
> My dog later died of natural causes and had a good and happy life.
>
> Altie
That story freakin' ruled.
---Reed
winnard
"Angie" <ang...@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Take this convo back to where you all came from
> please....................Our newsgroup is NOT about this crap..........
Just what newsgroup are you stationed in, toots?
winnard
winnard
"alpha.bob©" <alpha.bob©@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:54:01 -0500, "winnard" <8tr...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> <SNIPPED BS>
> winnard,
> You're one of thoes crossposting AOL acting assholes HUH
> --
> Bob & Trouble
Uh, yeah, whatever, Bob & Swallow.
winnard
miande...@yahoo.com
Im guessing the pit bull newsgroup......you gotta admit it was pretty
tacky of slick to crosspost it. Since rsfc had already discussed it
and was familar with the previous happenings, slick should have just
kept it amongst us.
miande...@yahoo.com
Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
>
> I see, you believe it is totally out of the realm of possibility for a
> pretty damn capable, well built, purple tongued, chow mix weighing in
> at around 70 or so pounds to even remotely stand his ground?
if you really cared for your dog, you wouldn't be so nonchalant about
the fight. Depending on how good a fighter your chow was and how good
the pit bull was, it's certainly feasible that the pit bull may not
maul the chow.....but it's not odds I'd want. Never mind the fact that
at a freakin pool party(or whatever it was) with plenty of people and
children it's never particularly appropriate to have a vicous dog
attacking a pit in the backyard...jesus.
>
> Hate to burst that bubble, Mia, but I have seen, and many others have
> too, a Pit Bull be beaten in a fight with another dog and run it's ass
> off down the street with it's tail between it's legs. Pit Bulls are
> not unbeatable and they certainly do not always fight to the death.
true, but a lot of them do and a lot of pit bulls can handle another
70lb dog.
> >riiiight....this story is getting better and better.
>
> Yes, it was pretty exciting as I reminisced on it over the years. I am
> glad you like the story, most everyone does. Well, almost everyone.
>
I just can't believe the story.....or maybe things in other people's
neighborhoods and backyards and such are just a hell of a lot more
lively than in mine. That story is just too surreal...
>
> Great, now you don't believe a 12 gauge will take a dogs head off at
> close range.
No, I know it would happen. I'm not questioning the logistics of a
shotgun blast going off at close range to a dog/human head or
whatever.....I just don't think it happened.
winnard
<miande...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Why? Those Pit Bull morons need to know what a rsfcked up worthless pile
of crap breed of neanderthal canine does to innocent baby ducks.
winnard
Jason Henning
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:59:02 -0400, Onyx_Hokie <onyx_...@yahoo.cem>
> wrote:
>
> >Onyx_Hokie
Pleese stop your ignerant crosspoasting. It is against AOL rules.
Cheers,
Jason Henning
The Blackshirts with their backs to wall! They're right down there where
you gotta shuck corn, or getta outta the field! I'll tell ya! - Lyell
Bremser
One Man Rodeo
"winnard" <8tr...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> Why? Those Pit Bull morons need to know what a rsfcked up worthless pile
> of crap breed of neanderthal canine does to innocent baby ducks.
>
>
> winnard
It appears to me; but I understand that it MAY not be true, that pit bull
owners are some of the most degenerate people I know. I have never in my
life never met an owner of a pit-bull that had a college education, was a
white collar worker, or used a language that lacked those gruntish
four-letter words from our Germanic language roots' past.
I may have had bad luck but every pit bull owner I have come across has been
a low class "white trash" uneducated unproductive member of society.
miande...@yahoo.com
Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
>
>
> Rewind a little bit, Mia. You can't double talk me, I do that myself
> and know the tricks. My dog was not viscous, he was serene and loving
> and lazing around and enjoying a dog's life.
>
> The Pit was the vicious one that entered my yard with an intent to
> deliver pain. What exactly wasn't clear about that, did I mistype
> something in my previous post?
No, I just got my words mixed up...I meant to call the pit bull the
vicous one.
> >
> >>
> >> Great, now you don't believe a 12 gauge will take a dogs head off at
> >> close range.
> >
> >No, I know it would happen. I'm not questioning the logistics of a
> >shotgun blast going off at close range to a dog/human head or
> >whatever.....I just don't think it happened.
>
> So you wouldn't give good odds then, right?
I mean at a pool party...in the backyard with kids around? it just
seems to out there.....
>
> Altie
miande...@yahoo.com
Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ wrote:
Quite
> to the contrary to the way you portray Pit Bull owners, I see a lot
> more thuggy blacks with them.
>
so Hugh has a son who posts to rsfc....interesting.
One Man Rodeo
"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:10:27 GMT, "One Man Rodeo"
> <do_not_spam_me@I_am_poor.net> wrote:
>
> How does it feel to be a racist, by the way, just wondering?
>
> Altie
To defend my apparent racial remarks, I live in a juristitstion that has
outlawed pit bull ownership for several years. This jurisdiction is a
cosmopolitan community where whites are a collective minority. However my
old juristition was predominately white. Most very rural areas around my
old jurisdiction are overwhelmingly white and in Canada the Mexicans haven't
invaded yet. I did not see black people until I moved to a big city of 5
million, where they had outlawed pit-bulls. The old jurisdiction was
practically all white allowed pit bull ownership.
However to be inclusive of all races I have noticed there are a rather large
percentage of Rotweilers with young black male owners using large heavy
rusty chains as leashes in my city. I have concern over this as it seems
to be cruelty to animals. These rottie owners also act and sound uneducated
and are employed in apparently dubious trades accroding to (newspaper and
radio reports) however I cannot confirm this. I do not understand the
language these particular Rottie owners use excpet those familar four-letter
words.
But I'm sure my eyes have deceived me.
winnard
"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:10:27 GMT, "One Man Rodeo"
> <do_not_spam_me@I_am_poor.net> wrote:
>
> >
> to the contrary to the way you portray Pit Bull owners, I see a lot
> more thuggy blacks with them.
>
> having him it means I am a bad ass and will pop a cap in your ass just
> as soon as look at you, just ask my doggie-dog. They equate the
> amount of gold in their mouth the same way that they equate their
> Pit-Pit with things.
>
> Basically, it means that they have arrived at the pinnacle of their
> underworld whey they got the connections and can deal the shit, just
> like their bad ass dog can.
>
> Just for the record, they are just as unproductive, stupid, and
> uneducated as the white people you slammed.
>
> How does it feel to be a racist, by the way, just wondering?
>
White Trash isn't a race, it's a chosen way of life, just like choosing Pit
Bulls as pets. It just happens to be the honky crackers who have them.
winnard
One Man Rodeo
>>
>> How does it feel to be a racist, by the way, just wondering?
>>
>
> White Trash isn't a race, it's a chosen way of life, just like choosing
> Pit
> Bulls as pets. It just happens to be the honky crackers who have them.
Here in Toronto Us whites from Anglo-British backgrounds get called
mungy-cakes by the Italians and Portuguese. I keep telling them to call me
redneck instead but they do not understand why I would be honored to have a
sunburnt neck... But I'm supposed to be honored for eating cake........
None of us have pit-bulls. The Italians use mangy German Sheppards to
patrol the tow truck impound lots.
Pangur Ban
news:1161128135....@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>
> Onyx_Hokie wrote: (story of pit bull roaming neighborhood)
>
> Jesus slick, what kind of neighborhood do you live in? You may want
> to just move....I've driven through some sort of sketchy neighborhoods
> before, and I don't ever recall the pit bull mayhem/rifles going off
> to gun down pit bulls in the neighborhood kind of scenarios you have
> described?
I live in a nice neighborhood. I have a pit who is kept in his yard -
with an electric fence. I had a neighbors with three pits, all of whom
were (take note of the words "had" and "were") out of their yards
frequently. Two of them came to my front door to harrass my pit. A
squirt gun filled with a very dilute mix of water and ammonia took care
of that. When those pits had killed several cats and dogs - all in
their own yards... not roaming freely.... the neighborhood association
took care of the matter. The pits are gone... and pets and children can
safely play in their yards and in the street again.
Pits are the owner's responsibility.... or the neighborhood associations
or the police if necessary.
Pangur
One Man Rodeo
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:09:02 -0500, "winnard" <8tr...@cox.net> wrote:
.
>>>
>>> How does it feel to be a racist, by the way, just wondering?
>>>
>>
>> White Trash isn't a race, it's a chosen way of life, just like choosing
>> Pit
>>Bulls as pets. It just happens to be the honky crackers who have them.
>>
>
> happens to be the black ass nigs that have them.
>
> See, isn't it fun seeing which group of people can denigrate the other
> group of people the best. It is a fascinating challenge.
>
> Altie
You are the one who has turned it into a racial debate. Thuggy lowlifes are
in all ethnic and racial groups as well as white trash. White trash is a
metaphor. You have decided to deviate from the topic of pissing on pit bull
owners to pissing on metaphors. I would have suggested a new thread but
I'm only worth 2 cents....
Now take off your sensitivity skin suit and settle down and let's go back to
jabbing pit bulls owners in the eye....
winnard
"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:Xns985FD26FEFB13Pa...@63.218.45.20...
>> I live in a nice neighborhood. I have a pit who is kept in his yard -
> with an electric fence.
No need to go any further.
winnard
Pangur Ban
news:7afZg.165656$5O2.1...@fe09.news.easynews.com:
> news:GUeZg.19119$vC3.477@dukeread02...
>
>>
>> Why? Those Pit Bull morons need to know what a rsfcked up worthless
>> pile of crap breed of neanderthal canine does to innocent baby
>> ducks.
>>
>> winnard
>
> It appears to me; but I understand that it MAY not be true, that pit
> bull owners are some of the most degenerate people I know. I have
> never in my life never met an owner of a pit-bull that had a college
> education,
I have multiple degrees.
>was a white collar worker,
My major career was exactly that. My present career is working for the
county's domestic violence center. Also white collar.
> or used a language that lacked those gruntish four-letter words from
> our Germanic language roots' past.
I have an excellent command of the English language... a wide vocabulary
and grammar skills also. I am a published author.... and I have a pit
bull companion.
>
> I may have had bad luck but every pit bull owner I have come across
> has been a low class "white trash" uneducated unproductive member of
> society.
Hello, nice to meet you. My name is Pangur Ban; I am a very productive
member of society; my family was college-educated also, and both were
white-collar workers. As stated above, I have multiple degrees, have
traveled extensively in the US and abroad (Egypt for a month was my last
holiday), and have a pit bull.
jimbr...@yahoo.com
Jon Enslin wrote:
> alpha.bob© wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:11:24 -0400, Onyx_Hokie <onyx_...@yahoo.cem>
> > wrote:
> > <BS SNIPPED>
> >
> > Who the hell is "Toby" and why do you insist on crossposting? You
> > act like a AOL noob. ;-(
>
>
> A "noob?"
>
> What are you...in fourth grade???
>
> Jon
No kidding. Everyone knows its Newb.
One Man Rodeo
> terms to identify you and not come right back at them with something?
> That would be kind of shameful, kind of like you were less than a man.
>
> Altie
Of course I'm not a man. I'm in sales. I have no shame. Only commissions
and a boss with expectations. The Italians can call me Shirley and dress
me up in lampshade if they open an account...... So I'm supposed to be
offended by some term? Guess what fella. People push buttons. That's what
people do. Some use race to push buttons and some use gutter language and
others use money and others use sex. I'm a salesman. We cheat and lie.
Who Am I to point fingers at a racist?
So I'm supposed to get pissed and fight back with every damn person on the
planet who calls me a half intelligent name? it's 2006 not 1861.
winnard
"Pangur Ban" <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
... and I have a pit
> bull companion.
> >
That's just sick.
winnard
TimV
That's what happens when you don't protect the sanctity of marriage.
R. Santorum
One Man Rodeo
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:37:42 GMT, "One Man Rodeo"
>
> I am not sensitive at all. On the contrary, I simply don't buy into
> the current trend of goofy white men and women that allow themselves
> to be described as honkey crackers by virulent racists such as Winard.
> You have to fight a good fight.
>
> Altie
I don't know where you are from but I reside in a modern liberally-minded
progressive metropolitan city that has too many people and a crumbling
infrastructure and is ballooning in size yearly.
In order to keep harmony in our city and to focus on raising our children
and fixing our bridges and keeping our water drinkable we joke around with
each other to let the tension off. The majority of residents of this city
were not raised in the city. They are from other parts of the country or
other nations period. If people have to joke with each other to keep the
streets safe then i'm for that. If everyone walked around with inflated
racial pride then we would have riots and chaos and a breakdown of social
order.
And the trendy of laughing at one's own race or ethnicity is NOT limited to
whites.
Fighting City Hall is a good fight, not false impressions of one's race.
We have been there in history before with very disastrous results.
One Man Rodeo
>
> Hello, nice to meet you. My name is Pangur Ban; I am a very productive
> member of society; my family was college-educated also, and both were
> white-collar workers. As stated above, I have multiple degrees, have
> traveled extensively in the US and abroad (Egypt for a month was my last
> holiday), and have a pit bull.
You would be an exception to my experiences. I cannot see you with my eyes
so I have to go on faith here.
I am certainly positive there are well-grounded and exceptionally minded
pit-bull owners. I have never met one but I know they exist, somewhere.
There are also owners of very docile breeds of animals that train those
animals to become dangerous.
But there is a stigma to pit-bull ownership for most of those owners and you
cannot deny that stigma exists.
Pangur Ban
> On 18 Oct 2006 02:39:36 GMT, Pangur Ban <Pangur-Ban$@worldnet.att.net>
> white person, I don't think he was particularly race baiting you.
>
> This race bait by a bigot was directly solely at Caucasians, and even
> more directly, at the Caucasians in America.
>
> Altie
Grandmother, grandfather and mother born in England with a geneology
going back to 1069. Caucasion - sub group - Celtic. Father's side of
the family also caucasion and dating back as far as it could be traced
to some 60 years pre-civil war. Caucasion - sub groups - German,
French, English.
>
Pangur Ban
> news:Xns985FD4399E216Pa...@63.218.45.20...
>
>>
>> Hello, nice to meet you. My name is Pangur Ban; I am a very
>> productive member of society; my family was college-educated also,
>> and both were white-collar workers. As stated above, I have multiple
>> degrees, have traveled extensively in the US and abroad (Egypt for a
>> month was my last holiday), and have a pit bull.
>
> You would be an exception to my experiences. I cannot see you with my
> eyes so I have to go on faith here.
Understood.
>
> I am certainly positive there are well-grounded and exceptionally
> minded pit-bull owners. I have never met one but I know they exist,
> somewhere. There are also owners of very docile breeds of animals that
> train those animals to become dangerous.
I was in the desert pottery shard hunting. I was following different
trails (can't dignify them with the name roads) when a puppy appeared on
the trail. I put him in my SUV and continued on the trail - which led
to a house. I discovered no one was home - except 2 pits (chained) who
had been fought and left untreated. No food for them or the pups; no
water for them or the pups. I called animal control - they knew where I
was as I hadn't a clue. I kept the puppy in my SUV and retreated down
the trail and secreted the SUV behind some pinon. Animal Control
arrived after about 45 minutes. I left - keeping the puppy. We were at
the vet's before the doors opened the next morning. The puppy was still
dehydrated and malnourished despite food and water as soon as we had
arrived at my home the previous evening.
He is an excellent companion, loves people, hates cows for some reason,
knows not to bark at horses, regards llamas as a puzzle deserving
careful watching and one soft puzzled woof, plays with the kitten, and
keeps an eye on me.
>
> But there is a stigma to pit-bull ownership for most of those owners
> and you cannot deny that stigma exists.
*nod* I understand that. I may not have chosen a pit - but somehow I
was chosen.
Casper Milquetoast
legal owner of the dog, & let him or her know that if the dog ever attacks
someone again, there will be some vigilante justice.
You're missing the point about this forum. People are defending pit
bulls in general, not specific pit bulls.
"Onyx_Hokie" <onyx_...@yahoo.cem> wrote in message
news:MPG.1f9f02f51...@news-40.giganews.com...
> 2:55pm : neighborhood pit bull seen roaming the neighborhood
>
> 2:56pm : call to Sheriff
>
> 2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
>
> 3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
>
> 3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
>
> 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
>
> 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
> one of them looks like it may not survive
>
> 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
>
>
> If that pit bull is seen in this neighborhood again, I will be very
> surprised. I'm sure I won't be the only one to contact the local
> authorities to insist that either the dog is removed or that a high
> fence is put around its yard.
>
> Go ahead, Toby... tell me that pit bull wasn't a danger to the kids
> getting off of their schoolbus. Tell me that we didn't perhaps avoid
> the death of a child in this area thanks to the pit bull being spotted
> and the quick response of the local Sheriff.
>
> Tell me that I'd have been wrong to go out and handle the situation
> myself had the local Sheriff not shown up. Go ahead.. tell me that BS,
> Toby. Let's hear it. I'm waiting.
Mercellus Bohren
> 2:55pm : neighborhood pit bull seen roaming the neighborhood
>
> 2:56pm : call to Sheriff
>
> 2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
>
> 3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
>
> 3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
>
> 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
>
> 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
> one of them looks like it may not survive
>
> 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
>
>
> If that pit bull is seen in this neighborhood again, I will be very
> surprised. I'm sure I won't be the only one to contact the local
> authorities to insist that either the dog is removed or that a high
> fence is put around its yard.
>
> Go ahead, Toby... tell me that pit bull wasn't a danger to the kids
> getting off of their schoolbus. Tell me that we didn't perhaps avoid
> the death of a child in this area thanks to the pit bull being spotted
> and the quick response of the local Sheriff.
>
> Tell me that I'd have been wrong to go out and handle the situation
> myself had the local Sheriff not shown up. Go ahead.. tell me that BS,
> Toby. Let's hear it. I'm waiting.
Did the pit bull attack a person?
What sort of dogs did it attack?
Were they being aggressive as well?
Maybe it was fighting with other aggressive animals; albeit, in their
own yards, but I'll bet they were being territorial; it's a dog eat dog
world out there Bryan Slick.
And, I could care less if you discharge a weapon in your neighborhood.
So what? The fact that you would put your immediate neighbors in danger
like that is a sad commentary on your "macho" insecurities regarding in
the matter.
Maybe your wife can be *your* apologist.
Onyx_Hokie
[ Mercellus Bohren | merce...@yahoo.com ]
[ <1161181350.3...@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> ]
:Onyx_Hokie wrote:
:> 2:55pm : neighborhood pit bull seen roaming the neighborhood
:>
:> 2:56pm : call to Sheriff
:>
:> 2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
:>
:> 3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
:>
:> 3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
:>
:> 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
:>
:> 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
:> one of them looks like it may not survive
:>
:> 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
:>
:>
:> If that pit bull is seen in this neighborhood again, I will be very
:> surprised. I'm sure I won't be the only one to contact the local
:> authorities to insist that either the dog is removed or that a high
:> fence is put around its yard.
:>
:> Go ahead, Toby... tell me that pit bull wasn't a danger to the kids
:> getting off of their schoolbus. Tell me that we didn't perhaps avoid
:> the death of a child in this area thanks to the pit bull being spotted
:> and the quick response of the local Sheriff.
:>
:> Tell me that I'd have been wrong to go out and handle the situation
:> myself had the local Sheriff not shown up. Go ahead.. tell me that BS,
:> Toby. Let's hear it. I'm waiting.
:
:Did the pit bull attack a person?
:
:What sort of dogs did it attack?
One of them was a large boxer type. The other I'm not sure about at
all.
:Were they being aggressive as well?
They were in their own yards, you apologist twit. It doesn't matter if
they were dancing around on their hind legs while shooting pistols in
the air. They were in their own yards.
:Maybe it was fighting with other aggressive animals; albeit, in their
:own yards, but I'll bet they were being territorial; it's a dog eat dog
:world out there Bryan Slick.
The above may be the stupidest argument you've made yet. What they were
doing in their own yards doesn't matter.. at all.
:And, I could care less if you discharge a weapon in your neighborhood.
:So what? The fact that you would put your immediate neighbors in danger
:like that is a sad commentary on your "macho" insecurities regarding in
:the matter.
That you'd mention the above is rather bizarre, as I've stated in the
past that I don't own a firearm.
If I did own a firearm, no one not actually in the sights of the weapon
would actually be in any danger, naturally. I was a professional
Soldier for eight years and those skills don't just vanish when the
uniform comes off.
That's not machismo at all, though it is interesting to observe what
passes for same in the small mind of someone such as yourself.
Mercellus Bohren
> :
> :What sort of dogs did it attack?
>
> One of them was a large boxer type. The other I'm not sure about at
> all.
>
> :Were they being aggressive as well?
>
> They were in their own yards, you apologist twit. It doesn't matter if
> they were dancing around on their hind legs while shooting pistols in
> the air. They were in their own yards.
>
> :Maybe it was fighting with other aggressive animals; albeit, in their
> :own yards, but I'll bet they were being territorial; it's a dog eat dog
> :world out there Bryan Slick.
>
> The above may be the stupidest argument you've made yet. What they were
> doing in their own yards doesn't matter.. at all.
>
So, an animal being in their owner's yard absolves said owner of any
responsibility over their animal's actions? (This is exactly what your
statement above implies.)
This means that, say, I have an overly aggressive dog chained up in my
front yard (Boxers are highly territorial.) and another agressive dog
walks by, and my dog barks and growls and charges the dog, and they
start fighting. I would not be too surprised by this turn of events. I
would be upset over the fact that my dog was injured in my front yard,
but, I wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume that the stray dog is
now a danger to all humans in the neighborhood.
Onyx_Hokie
[ Mercellus Bohren | merce...@yahoo.com ]
[ <1161186030....@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> ]
:So, an animal being in their owner's yard absolves said owner of any
:responsibility over their animal's actions? (This is exactly what your
:statement above implies.)
You are really being rather dense.
If your animal is on your property, and another dog invades said
property to attack your dog, the other dog's owner is entirely at fault.
This is not a hard concept.
John Oliver
> 2:55pm : neighborhood pit bull seen roaming the neighborhood
>
> 2:56pm : call to Sheriff
>
> 2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
>
> 3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
>
> 3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
>
> 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
>
> 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
> one of them looks like it may not survive
>
> 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
I'm guessing this is your diatribe about why all pit bulls should be
killed, etc. All I see is a dog owner that isn't being responsible.
This loose dog should be rounded up by Animal Control. If this keeps
happening then some sort of action should be taken against the owner.
if the dog does attack other dogs or, God forbid, a child, then yeah, it
should be put down.
But what is your point in plastering this across Usenet if not to try to
make some lame point about "ban pit bulls"? Millions of pit bulls did
*not* attack or threaten to attack today. Where's your post about those
statistics?
--
* John Oliver http://www.john-oliver.net/ *
Mercellus Bohren
Not if the owner's dog is dancing around on its hind legs and shooting
pistols off in the air.
Someone could get hit by a stray bullet! (Great image by the way...made
me laff)
The following are my final thoughts on this subject, for your future
reference. (The following does not contradict anything I have ever
posted about dogs in this chatroom.)
1) Pet owners should be responsible and follow all laws and ordinances
for the location where they house their pet. This means obeying leash
laws, ordinances for aggressive breeds, etc. If they don't follow the
laws and local ordinances and property is destroyed, people are
injured, or lives lost, they should be held fully accountable and
brought up on whatever charges are available or legislated (destruction
of property, cruelty to animals, assault with a deadly weapon,
manslaughter, whatever... I ain't no lawyer.)
2) If an aggressive dog is running amok, the proper authorities should
be notifed. If you're in the middle of nowhere and the proper
authorities are not available, by all means, shoot to kill if you, your
family, or your animals are being threatened.
3) Not all Bulldog-Terrier mixes are created equal. The standard breed
is very loving and social around people. However, unscrupulous owners
may have trained their animal to watch over their drug pile and for
this reason, have made them vicious toward people. These dogs should be
destroyed in a humane manner.
4) Bulldog-Terrier mixes are naturally aggressive toward other
agressive dog breeds. This is a fact of life and owners should have the
common sense to make sure their dog is either socialized early or kept
apart from other dogs. (See #1 for my opinion on what should happen if
common sense is not used when owning a dog like this.)
5) Bulldog-Terrier mixes have a strong prey drive which comes from the
Terrier breed; bred to kill rats and small game. They will kill small
animals because this is inbred instinct. Again, an owner needs to be
aware of this and keep their animal away from small pets.
6) If a well-groomed dog with tags is running down the street, and you
assume it is a breed that is aggressive, and you take matters into your
own hands, and kill the animal, you are wrong. You may be right in the
eyes of whatever backwoods banjo-picking municipality has jurisdiction
over your white-trash life, but, you'd be wrong anyway.
<Bryan Slick> "If I saw your dog running down my street, I would kill
it." This is your original statement that caused all this.
Good bate dumbass.
HAND.
FOAD.
abor...@redshark.goodshow.net
>
> 5) Bulldog-Terrier mixes have a strong prey drive which comes from the
> Terrier breed; bred to kill rats and small game. They will kill small
> animals because this is inbred instinct. Again, an owner needs to be
> aware of this and keep their animal away from small pets.
This is a problem with a lot of hunting dogs - Greyhounds are notorious
for having this problem and need to be carefully socialized with small
animals. Some take to it - some don't... and it depends on the small animal
in question. My greyhound would chase and kill a cat if it caught it at a
run. If the cat stopped and tried to defend itself in anyway, my dog would
run away.
--
Aaron
miand...@students.mcg.edu
Mercellus Bohren wrote:
> Onyx_Hokie wrote:
> > 2:55pm : neighborhood pit bull seen roaming the neighborhood
> >
> > 2:56pm : call to Sheriff
> >
> > 2:58pm : pit bull attacks neighborhood dog in its own yard
> >
> > 3:04pm : two Sheriff's Deputies attempt to corral pit bull
> >
> > 3:06pm : pit bull attacks a second dog, also in its own yard
> >
> > 3:08pm : weapons drawn, Deputies subdue pit bull with pepper spray
> >
> > 3:10pm : two attacked dogs rushed to vet with deep wounds .. at least
> > one of them looks like it may not survive
> >
> > 3:25pm : my daughter's schoolbus drops the neighborhood kids off
> >
> >
> > If that pit bull is seen in this neighborhood again, I will be very
> > surprised. I'm sure I won't be the only one to contact the local
> > authorities to insist that either the dog is removed or that a high
> > fence is put around its yard.
> >
> > Go ahead, Toby... tell me that pit bull wasn't a danger to the kids
> > getting off of their schoolbus. Tell me that we didn't perhaps avoid
> > the death of a child in this area thanks to the pit bull being spotted
> > and the quick response of the local Sheriff.
> >
> > Tell me that I'd have been wrong to go out and handle the situation
> > myself had the local Sheriff not shown up. Go ahead.. tell me that BS,
> > Toby. Let's hear it. I'm waiting.
>
> Did the pit bull attack a person?
SHEESH! You just don't get it. You seem to think it is somehow
acceptable for pit bulls to enter other people's property and attack
their pets or whatever, as long as after they do it the'll play nice
with real people. It's not. Pit bulls that enter other people's
property and attack their pets need to(and usually do) get destroyed.
>
> What sort of dogs did it attack?
who cares?
>
> Were they being aggressive as well?
who cares? They weren't the ones entering the owner of the pit bull's
yard to attack the pit bull.
>
> Maybe it was fighting with other aggressive animals; albeit, in their
> own yards
you act as if that's a small point. It's not.
>but I'll bet they were being territorial
who cares?
; it's a dog eat dog
> world out there Bryan Slick.
and it's also an "animal control takes unruly dogs who attack others
pets in their own yard and puts a ****** lethal needle into them" world
out there, Mercellus.
Mercellus Bohren
I think socialization for animals with a strong prey drive has to be
imprinted pretty early on (by six months), or it's a lost cause. I
don't know this for a fact, but, I think it's true. In any event, I
don't have the energy to socialize Buster now with small animals. He
loves our other dog and hasn't snapped at him for many years
now---that's good enough.
He and the other dog (Kerby) are highly trainable, and will now sit and
stay at the open backyard patio door while I stomp around quickly to
scare off any unsuspecting critters that may have wandered into the
valley of death.
They both treed a 30-40 pound Big Mama Racoon one night. Racoons are so
vicious. Kerby would have run off to the safety of his crate inside,
while Buster would have died trying. It would have been a bloodbath had
I not gotten them both inside in time.
Hey, pictures for the cross-posted...
leinbacker
Yeah, the whole neighborhood has to change it's behavior just becuase
Mercellus wants a pitbull.
leinbacker
That's just wonderful but one thing for sure, if he come on my property
and does any harm to my pets, guests, or family members, he'll be
filled with buck shot and I'll sue your ass for the cost of the shell.
Mercellus Bohren
whatever you say Cletus [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cletus_Spuckler]
abor...@redshark.goodshow.net
> abor...@redshark.goodshow.net wrote:
>> In rec.sport.football.college Mercellus Bohren <merce...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > 5) Bulldog-Terrier mixes have a strong prey drive which comes from the
>> > Terrier breed; bred to kill rats and small game. They will kill small
>> > animals because this is inbred instinct. Again, an owner needs to be
>> > aware of this and keep their animal away from small pets.
>>
>> This is a problem with a lot of hunting dogs - Greyhounds are notorious
>> for having this problem and need to be carefully socialized with small
>> animals. Some take to it - some don't... and it depends on the small animal
>> in question. My greyhound would chase and kill a cat if it caught it at a
>> run. If the cat stopped and tried to defend itself in anyway, my dog would
>> run away.
>>
>> --
>> Aaron
>
> I think socialization for animals with a strong prey drive has to be
> imprinted pretty early on (by six months), or it's a lost cause.
Definitely not true - or no greyhounds anywhere would be good around
small animals, and that definitely isn't the case. They've been bred and
trained to do nothing but chase small animals up to the point they retire
(which is usually a minimum of 2 years, ranging up to 10 or so for a
brood female) - and quite a lot fo them can be socialized to small animals.
The most entertaining thing one must teach a greyhound coming off the track
is how to climb stairs. They've never done it, have no idea how to do it,
and definitely are not the correct body type to learn stair climbing.
--
Aaron
Mercellus Bohren
Thanks for clearing up my misinformation on this topic. [bate.383.3]
I'll have to find out about how to do that with Buster.
The "trial and error approach" is contraindicated I would think.
[cmt:edited;3485.sith.29868]
Angie
"John Oliver" <jol...@john-oliver.net> wrote in message
news:slrnejcoap....@ns.sdsitehosting.net...
Thanks John..........................All i see in these posts are a bunch of
people that think everyone that anyone that owns a pit bull is white trash,
uneducated and have no control of their dogs...........Little do they know
that all of the above is a bunch of muck. Seems they are the uneducated
ones, the ones full of hate and violent thoughts and actions. Most of the
people that post in the pit bull newsgroup own "pets" and have been a part
of this newsgroup for years!!!!! We all own dogs that are loved and cared
for, that live with other dogs, children and families and are thought of as
a family member. People shouldn't be so one sided in their opinions and
should really think before they jump to conclusions and point
fingers...................
abor...@redshark.goodshow.net
There are a number of methods, and SOME dogs just can't be socialized
to small animals (or children, or etc.).
> The "trial and error approach" is contraindicated I would think.
Umm... yah.
--
Aaron
winnard
"Angie" <ang...@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:kOvZg.15941$OE1....@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>
> "John Oliver" <jol...@john-oliver.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnejcoap....@ns.sdsitehosting.net...
of
> people that think everyone that anyone that owns a pit bull is white
trash,
> uneducated and have no control of their dogs...........Little do they know
> that all of the above is a bunch of muck. Seems they are the uneducated
> ones, the ones full of hate and violent thoughts and actions.
Here are some 'educated' pit bull owners and their 'deadly weapons'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcA-u2BEszE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FUbIAHmG4A
And the most violent vile attack of all, and the owner instigates this one
on command.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qg6sDPfQak
disgusting.
winnard
leinbacker
Exactly, now tell me why I can't keep a mountain lion in my back yard?
One Man Rodeo
"leinbacker" <boomer_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1161214044.3...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Thanks John..........................All i see in these posts are a bunch
>> of
>> people that think everyone that anyone that owns a pit bull is white
>> trash,
>> uneducated and have no control of their dogs...........Little do they
>> know
>> that all of the above is a bunch of muck. Seems they are the uneducated
>> ones, the ones full of hate and violent thoughts and actions. Most of
>> the
>> people that post in the pit bull newsgroup own "pets" and have been a
>> part
>> of this newsgroup for years!!!!! We all own dogs that are loved and
>> cared
>> for, that live with other dogs, children and families and are thought of
>> as
>> a family member. People shouldn't be so one sided in their opinions and
>> should really think before they jump to conclusions and point
>> fingers...................
>
>
> Exactly, now tell me why I can't keep a mountain lion in my back yard?
I should be able to raise Bengal Tigers in my back-yard. They are
threatened as a species and I care for protecting what little of the planet
we have left. It's just my small part in preserving our nature for future
generations.
leinbacker
works for me, probably as safe to the neighbors as a Pit Bull.
Russ
I find them quite amusing Bob, it is interesting to read about what other
people think in regards to the persona of pit bull owners.
Oh crap....here I go.......I was gonna just leave it at that, but.....
I find it interesting to read about people who have loaded shotguns in their
house, with children residing in that said house. But then again, I think
WOW, look at that fucking idiot mother with the baby carriage crossing this
busy 8 lane street as soon as the light turns green without even checking
left or right to see if everyone has stopped or is stopping. [Am I a little
hypersensitive?]
I find it interesting to read about a man who can entertain himself by
letting a loose pitbull attack his dog while his family watches, then grab
the pitbull with his bare hands and stick his fingers into it's eye sockets
and pull it's eyeballs out, then blow it's head off with a 12 gauge.
I find that somewhat trashy.
Is it just me?
Or
Could it all have been prevented with a little common sense?
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:05:36 GMT, "Angie" <ang...@insight.rr.com>
wrote:
<snip>
>
>Thanks John..........................All i see in these posts are a bunch
>of people that think everyone that anyone that owns a pit bull is white
>trash, uneducated and have no control of their dogs...........Little do
>they know that all of the above is a bunch of muck. Seems they are the
>uneducated ones, the ones full of hate and violent thoughts and actions.
>Most of the people that post in the pit bull newsgroup own "pets" and have
>been a part of this newsgroup for years!!!!! We all own dogs that are
>loved and cared for, that live with other dogs, children and families and
>are thought of as a family member. People shouldn't be so one sided in
>their opinions and should really think before they jump to conclusions and
>point fingers...................
Most of them are just crossposting trolls (bad as the PW)
--
Bob & Trouble
Email: Remove the ©
Russ
control alt delete boy said:
"You could be a real man and tell the sorry little fucks to meet you
outside when you got off and challenge them to call you a derogatory
name."
Meanwhile he uses his sister to get ragdolled for him while he checks to see
if his dog has any gameness.
I never formerly called you a hypocrite during all my blather did I, well, I
just did now.
"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
news:so5bj2pv99h0qles3...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:46:24 GMT, "One Man Rodeo"
> <do_not_spam_me@I_am_poor.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
>>news:on4bj2hmi4e7o1ams...@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:15:50 GMT, "One Man Rodeo"
>>> <do_not_spam_me@I_am_poor.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"winnard" <8tr...@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:P0gZg.19139$vC3.17031@dukeread02...
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How does it feel to be a racist, by the way, just wondering?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> White Trash isn't a race, it's a chosen way of life, just like
>>>>> choosing
>>>>> Pit
>>>>> Bulls as pets. It just happens to be the honky crackers who have
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>>Here in Toronto Us whites from Anglo-British backgrounds get called
>>>>mungy-cakes by the Italians and Portuguese. I keep telling them to call
>>>>me
>>>>redneck instead but they do not understand why I would be honored to
>>>>have
>>>>a
>>>>sunburnt neck... But I'm supposed to be honored for eating cake........
>>>>
>>>>None of us have pit-bulls. The Italians use mangy German Sheppards to
>>>>patrol the tow truck impound lots.
>>>
>>> And what do you call them? Surely you don't let them use derogatory
>>> terms to identify you and not come right back at them with something?
>>> That would be kind of shameful, kind of like you were less than a man.
>>>
>>> Altie
>>
>>Of course I'm not a man. I'm in sales. I have no shame. Only
>>commissions
>>and a boss with expectations. The Italians can call me Shirley and dress
>>me up in lampshade if they open an account...... So I'm supposed to be
>>offended by some term? Guess what fella. People push buttons. That's
>>what
>>people do. Some use race to push buttons and some use gutter language and
>>others use money and others use sex. I'm a salesman. We cheat and
>>lie.
>>Who Am I to point fingers at a racist?
>
> Well, you have given up, you are beat. You know who else was beat?
> The African-American's in the United States were beat down and meek
> and mild about 60 years ago.
>
> But, they got tired of racist white people calling them hateful names
> because of the color of their skin. They got tired of "just having to
> take it". They got tired of being called every name in the book out
> in public and just having to shuffle away with their heads hung down.
>
> The wanted dignity and they fought for it and received their bounty.
> You could notify management that you are constantly ridiculed and
> racially harassed because you are a white person. You could contact a
> civil rights group and see if something could be done about it. You
> could be a real man and tell the sorry little fucks to meet you
> outside when you got off and challenge them to call you a derogatory
> name.
>
>>
>>So I'm supposed to get pissed and fight back with every damn person on the
>>planet who calls me a half intelligent name? it's 2006 not 1861.
>
>
> Weak and beat. You don't have to accept being treated like a 2nd
> class citizen by others. You can stand up and be somebody.
>
> Altie
Russ
"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
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> On 18 Oct 2006 10:20:10 -0700, "Mercellus Bohren"
> Racist prick with an overbearing need to verbally assault a group of
> human beings that he feels morally and economically superior to. In
> another words, just your everyday garden variety asshole.
>
> Much like your slave owners would have carried themselves is the type
> of personality I see emanating out of the rotten pores of this
> mentally warped individual.
>
>
> HAND
>
> FOAD
>
> Altie
Russ
Please tell us all how it really is in the big wide world we live in.
"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 02:37:42 GMT, "One Man Rodeo"
> <do_not_spam_me@I_am_poor.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
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>>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:09:02 -0500, "winnard" <8tr...@cox.net> wrote:
>>.
>>>>>
>>>>> How does it feel to be a racist, by the way, just wondering?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> White Trash isn't a race, it's a chosen way of life, just like choosing
>>>> Pit
>>>>Bulls as pets. It just happens to be the honky crackers who have them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thuggy Lowlife isn't a race either, it's a way of life. It just
>>> happens to be the black ass nigs that have them.
>>>
>>> See, isn't it fun seeing which group of people can denigrate the other
>>> group of people the best. It is a fascinating challenge.
>>>
>>> Altie
>>
>>You are the one who has turned it into a racial debate. Thuggy lowlifes
>>are
>>in all ethnic and racial groups as well as white trash. White trash is a
>>metaphor.
>
> You have got to be joking? White Trash is used to demean and belittle
> white people and white people only. It is a form of derision directed
> at you because of the color of your skin by bigots and fools. Wake up
> and respect yourself.
>
>> You have decided to deviate from the topic of pissing on pit bull
>>owners to pissing on metaphors. I would have suggested a new thread but
>>I'm only worth 2 cents....
>>
>>Now take off your sensitivity skin suit and settle down and let's go back
>>to
>>jabbing pit bulls owners in the eye....
>
> I am not sensitive at all. On the contrary, I simply don't buy into
> the current trend of goofy white men and women that allow themselves
> to be described as honkey crackers by virulent racists such as Winard.
> You have to fight a good fight.
>
> Altie
>
>
Russ
"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤@dac.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 06:01:15 GMT, "Russ"
> <dontmailme...@abc.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Most of them are just crossposting trolls (bad as the PW)
>>
>>I find them quite amusing Bob, it is interesting to read about what other
>>people think in regards to the persona of pit bull owners.
>>
>>Oh crap....here I go.......I was gonna just leave it at that, but.....
>>
>>I find it interesting to read about people who have loaded shotguns in
>>their
>>house, with children residing in that said house. But then again, I think
>>WOW, look at that fucking idiot mother with the baby carriage crossing
>>this
>>busy 8 lane street as soon as the light turns green without even checking
>>left or right to see if everyone has stopped or is stopping. [Am I a
>>little
>>hypersensitive?]
>>I find it interesting to read about a man who can entertain himself by
>>letting a loose pitbull attack his dog while his family watches, then grab
>>the pitbull with his bare hands and stick his fingers into it's eye
>>sockets
>>and pull it's eyeballs out, then blow it's head off with a 12 gauge.
>>I find that somewhat trashy.
>>Is it just me?
>>Or
>>Could it all have been prevented with a little common sense?
>>
>
> Hi, Russ. I find it "interesting" that an obviously enlightened to
> the point of being ineffectual as a functional human being type of
> guy, such as yourself, could call someone trash.
>
> Your definition of trash is a man trying to prevent his sister from
> being murdered by an animal? I wish she had never ran to the dogs
> that were fighting and tried to break them up, but, you know, that is
> what happened.
>
> So, as I calmly set back and weighed the options:
>
> save a human being that is related to me from certain death,
>
> or
>
> manually remove the eyeballs of a wild animal that swooped down upon a
> peaceful family dog visiting his loved ones, then rapaciously ripped
> flesh off of a helpless woman's arm,
>
> I picked the option to save my sister.
>
> This was after rationally and intellectually pondering the situation
> for about 30 minutes as the blood drained out of another human being.
> LOL.
>
> Well, really, I did what was expected. I instantaneously got the wild
> beast off of my lovely sister and she is doing just fine.
>
> The fact that you consider someone that would do this to be trash
> indicates that you are a little less than a complete person.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Altie