SRAM card and win98
Jim Severdia
I've come across a couple of SRAM cards (2M) and have plugged them into my
compaq under 98 and it of course recognizes them without any problem.
But, what can i use them for?
Does anyone know how to test them as you would standard RAM?
Any ideas/help appreciated.
Jim
Justin.
floppy's. However I also belive the software required is not a part of
windows. try http://www.m-sys.com/download.htm
Let us know how you go.
Jim Severdia wrote in message <373c9...@news.sac.bfp.net>...
ITO Takayuki
"Justin." <sp...@not.here> writes:
>I think these cards may be configured as disks so you can use them like
>floppy's. However I also belive the software required is not a part of
>windows. try http://www.m-sys.com/download.htm
>Let us know how you go.
FFS/FTL is not necessary to use SRAM cards. Just write in CONFIG.SYS
as follows:
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CSMAPPER.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CARDDRV.EXE /SLOT=x
where x is the number of your card slots. This will assign x drive
letters to your slots.
--
ITO Takayuki
Samuel Liddicott
ITO Takayuki <yu...@dayo.ne.jp> wrote in message
news:7hk31f$jju$1...@horse.fsinet.or.jp...
Quote so; but you may have great difficulty in formatting the cards.
I have *never* been able to format them as disks under windows this way; but
it will access formatted cards.
Luckily we make data loggers that can format cards as disks!
Sam
John R. Baker
WinBook running Windows 98. The two lines as suggested are in config.sys. This
reserves drives d: and e: as removable disks. The PC Card manager recognizes
the card as a IDE/ESDI drive. However, neither drive d: nor e: is accessible.
On a Digital HighNote with Windows 95 it is available even without the extra two
lines in config.sys. Any further suggestions on getting it to work with Windows
98 on the WinBook XL2 will be appreciated.
-John
ITO Takayuki
"John R. Baker" <ba...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> writes:
>I have been unsuccessful in trying to get a 32MB ATA Flash Card to work in a
>WinBook running Windows 98. The two lines as suggested are in config.sys. This
>reserves drives d: and e: as removable disks. The PC Card manager recognizes
>the card as a IDE/ESDI drive. However, neither drive d: nor e: is accessible.
>On a Digital HighNote with Windows 95 it is available even without the extra two
>lines in config.sys. Any further suggestions on getting it to work with Windows
>98 on the WinBook XL2 will be appreciated.
ATA flash cards are totally different from SRAM cards or linear flash
cards. From software's viewpoint they are regarded as IDE hard drives
and do not need CSMAPPER.SYS and CARDDRV.EXE.
--
ITO Takayuki
Justin.
spent many an hour trying to get a flash card to work read/write/format
using ms flash file system 2.
see after -snip- for previous posts to this news group somebode must know!
btw ATA should be a peice of cake as they emulate ide drives it's flash and
sram cards that suck.
And if your confused about these three standards then join the club and read
on.
John R. Baker wrote in message <374357DD...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>...
>I have been unsuccessful in trying to get a 32MB ATA Flash Card to work in
a
>WinBook running Windows 98. The two lines as suggested are in config.sys.
This
>reserves drives d: and e: as removable disks. The PC Card manager
recognizes
>the card as a IDE/ESDI drive. However, neither drive d: nor e: is
accessible.
>On a Digital HighNote with Windows 95 it is available even without the
extra two
>lines in config.sys. Any further suggestions on getting it to work with
Windows
>98 on the WinBook XL2 will be appreciated.
>-John
>
>Samuel Liddicott wrote:
>
>> ITO Takayuki <yu...@dayo.ne.jp> wrote in message
>> news:7hk31f$jju$1...@horse.fsinet.or.jp...
>> > In article <7hjp89$13r6$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>
>> > "Justin." <sp...@not.here> writes:
>> >
>> > >I think these cards may be configured as disks so you can use them
like
>> > >floppy's. However I also belive the software required is not a part of
>> > >windows. try http://www.m-sys.com/download.htm
>> > >Let us know how you go.
>> >
>> > FFS/FTL is not necessary to use SRAM cards. Just write in CONFIG.SYS
>> > as follows:
>> >
>> > DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CSMAPPER.SYS
>> > DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CARDDRV.EXE /SLOT=x
>> >
>> > where x is the number of your card slots. This will assign x drive
>> > letters to your slots.
>>
>> Quote so; but you may have great difficulty in formatting the cards.
>> I have *never* been able to format them as disks under windows this way;
but
>> it will access formatted cards.
Justin agrees 100%
>>
>> Luckily we make data loggers that can format cards as disks!
>>
>> Sam
>
-snip-
>>
>>My initial post + replys.>>
>
>>I use a Remote telemetry unit "foxboro C50" this unit reads config and
>>binary files from a flash card stored in a FAT ms-flash format.
>>using dos drivers but now have upgraded to win95 and I am looking for
>>windows device drivers that will enable me to turn the "MTD" card that
>>windows sees into a drive that I can write files to.
>>The dos drivers I was using were from phoenix and included ms-flash.sys (a
>>huge driver so I assume Microsoft wrote it)
>>
>>I spotted CardWareŽ 6.0 http://www.unicore.com/ but don't really want to
>>upgrade to NT unless I really have to does anybody know of a win95 driver?
>>
>>The following looks like it might work however I can't get an answer on
>>weather or not to will work in the manner I have described, seems like
it's
>>easy to get the card services but hard to make it dos file system. Anybody
>>had experience with this software?
>>http://www.phoenix.com/products/pcm.html
>>
>>I use Intel FLASH cards 1Mb type i and 2Mb type ii PCMCIA cards
>>
>>Thanks, Justin.
>>jf...@powercor.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>"Justin." <not...@not.here> wrote:
>>This is a repost with some more info thanks to ITO Takayuki & Vitaliy_S
but
>>I am still looking for a solution so would apresiate any further help
>>setting up flash card drivers on my laptop.
>>
>>I tried the following...
>>device=\windows\system\csmapper.sys
>>device=\windows\system\carddrv.exe /slot=1
>>device=ms-flash.sys
>>This provided a removable disk in win95 that I could read files that I had
>>previosly written to a flash card I have, the result was hot swappable but
>>with one very important down side I could not write to the card. (yes I
>>checked the write protection switch on the card) get a "File system error
>>(65311)" this software also seemed to only work on series II cards.
>>
>>The next one got me very excited but also didn't deliver.
>>TrueFFS/FTL for Windows 95 - free download
>>http://www.m-sys.com/download.htm
>>It's windows95 ITS FREE! It says to supports intel flash series II
cards...
>>It dosen't work!
>>
>>I know I am being a little hard on this software it realy does look good
>>installed really easy, uses only 32bit drivers (No dos) it even got rid of
>>the lines I had in the config.sys above! again saw the cards hot swapable
>>however ever so sadly it seems to be a standard not compatable with
>>ms-flash.sys Doh! Strangely when I used this package it saw that my flash
>>card was not fromatted however could not format the card weird, I get
every
>>unit as bad!. this software also replaced my "MTD" Flash Memory card
series
>>II device with an intel/M-Systems flash card hard disk controller the up
>>side apeared to be that this recognised my older series I flash cards
>>however didn't create a drive for the older cards.
>>
>>
>>Sence my original post I have also come across
>>http://www.systemsoft.com/products/pccard/index.htm
>>again this apears to be an NT product but if thats what it has to be then
>>very well. Any body had any expiriance with flash cards set up as ms-flash
>>drives in NT?
Sergej V. Sagalovich wrote in message <3722a5e0...@nntp.glas.net>...
>Justin,
>
>1) MS-FLASH.SYS uses so called FFS (Flash File System) format. This is
>not FAT format, but special format creating by Microsoft for using on
>FLASH cards. MS-FLASH.SYS will be installed like network re-director
>given you opportunity to work with this flash card using standard
>file-system DOS interface. (More info: there are FFS1 and FFS2.)
>
>2) TrueFFS is the name of implementation of FTL (Flash Translation
>Level). FTL defines the special low-level FLASH card format on top
>of which other File Systems can be emulated. FTL is the part of PC
>Card standard, FFS is not. (I suppose, that currently FFS is
>obsolete).
>
>3) If information on your FLASH card is stored in ** real ** FAT
>format, then you can read it via emulating ROM card.
>
>4) CardWare supports FFS system via command line giving
>you opportunity to save files from your FFS partition or write
>files on FFS2 partition. But if you want to work with your FLASH
>card using "drive letter" access you must format FLASH card
>using FTL. It will be done automatically for you when you choose
>"Format" menu.
>
>There is CardWare for DOS/Win 3.11. It must work with Windows 95 too.
>
>5) MTD - Acronym for Memory Technology Driver. Embedded or installable
>component of Card Services that contains device-specific read, write,
>copy and erase algorithms.
>
>Sergej
>
>>"Justin." <not...@not.here> wrote:
It is all beginning to become clear.
The people at Foxboro who created the system I am using that uses these fss
cards initially told me that I would need NT and that even though they use
Cardware they could only ever get the software to write an entire directory
not specific files this must be why:-
The "command line support" you mention does not provide a "drive letter"
only a tool to use to write to the card! As the system wants the cards in
this fss format I can't reformat the cards on the PC as ftl as then it would
not work in the C50 RTU anymore.
I did want to quiz the makers of Cardware about this however it seems
phoenix who wrote Cardware were bought out by award and now resale Cardware
through http://www.unicore.com/ this makes it real hard to talk to anybody
there about dos win95 or NT!
I will find any easy answer to this! and when I do I might even write a web
page about it so that the other person in the world who uses this will not
suffer the pain I have.
one quick question...
Is there a reasonable explanation why when I use the
c:\csmapper.sys;c:\carddrv.exe;c:\ms-flash.sys options the card comes out as
read only. This has got me stumped I even copied the old phoenix drivers
that worked on my old PC to the new one and some thing read only, they
were:-
device=\pcmss.exe /s0=2
device=\pcmcs.exe /wait=20 /addr=c0 /irq=15 /flash
device=\pcmscd.exe /beep /rs=4 /mirq=5 /level
device=\pcmffcs.exe /base=d0 /size=32 /queue=1 /part=1
DEVICE=\MS-FLASH.SYS
even the Toshiba drivers that came with the laptop (including ms-flash.sys)
don't make a read/write drive.
I suppose the next thing to try is the new drivers on the old laptop but
it's win3.11 at the moment and no cdrom.
Thanks you guys for enduring my extremely longwinded questions it's just I
don't really know what I am talking about so I give you ample opportunity to
correct me.
Now all I have to do is see if I can get cardware for dos to work. If all
else fails Windows NT here I come. :(
>
Vitaliy_S
And if you can not get letter for your drive it is probably because you
don't have any spare interrupt in your system. And ATA card needs an
interrupt to operate properly.
John R. Baker <ba...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:374357DD...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu...
MG
>In article <7hjp89$13r6$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>
> "Justin." <sp...@not.here> writes:
>
>>I think these cards may be configured as disks so you can use them like
>>floppy's. However I also belive the software required is not a part of
>>windows. try http://www.m-sys.com/download.htm
>>Let us know how you go.
>
>FFS/FTL is not necessary to use SRAM cards. Just write in CONFIG.SYS
>as follows:
>
>DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CSMAPPER.SYS
>DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\CARDDRV.EXE /SLOT=x
>
>where x is the number of your card slots. This will assign x drive
>letters to your slots.
yep, done that and it worked a while back, but not since I also use a
slot for my PCMCIA cd ???
MG
wrote:
>If you use ATA flash card you don't need any drivers to load in config.sys.
>And if you can not get letter for your drive it is probably because you
>don't have any spare interrupt in your system. And ATA card needs an
>interrupt to operate properly.
Yeah, maybe, but you cannot just 'add' interrupts! Under W9x you have
to load and unload stuff to shuffle IRQs aaround and hope it
miracullusly configures your system so that printer, scanner, mouse,
modem, CD unit , keyboard and whatever all work together. Can take
months!!!!