Village News - Editorial
Fluffs
Now that I have finished conquering the U.S., it's time
I dusted off the print press and got this paper rolling.
In this first edition, I'd like to talk about the Village.
A quaint little town that popped out of nowhere and landed in
the middle of the Usenet quagmire. And the group, from which
the Village grew.
Our village is global, represented by people from all corners
of the world and from all walks of life, but with a common thread..
a desire to be among others of their kind. Those who enjoy life,
and all it's little quirks..the friendship, the fun, the Pussy
Parlour.
The reason for this editorial is simple. A while back there was a
particularly antagonistic poster who made comments about the
group..nothing new there, we get that all the time..but it occured
to me that his mind set could be shared by others who happen to
wander in here. The one comment in particular was about this group
being a 'clique' I scoffed, and thought 'how ridiculous'. But after
thinking
about it a bit, I realized that it could very well seem like just that
to
someone new. So, I will attempt to make understood, our little group.
APFPY wasn't built in a day..(well, probably only in a couple of
hours, but
you know what I mean) It was started by Eugene back in September of
1996
out of a need to have a penpal forum for people older than those who
frequented
the other penpal groups..ie Soc.penpals. When you have a group with a
lot of
young, immature people, you get a lot of flame wars and infighting,
and that's
not what most people of our age group were looking for.
It was a great idea, and was a success right from the start. A few
bumps at
first, but nothing serious and once the dust settled it was a nice
comfortable
place to be.
Along the way, the most amazing thing happened. Instead of just being
a place
to post an ad for penpals, people started interacting with each other
within the
ng..friendships developed. Long and lasting friendships. Real life
'meets' were
organized, I've personally met over a dozen of the posters here. And
these meets
have been done all over, Canada, US, and the UK.
We have also had marriages of people who have met here..people who
would
otherwise never had met. So saying this is a life-changing medium is
no exaggeration.
So yes, in a way, we may 'seem' cliquish..but it's only natural we
would be
comfortable with those we've known for so long.
BUT!! This group is about growth too..getting to know and make new
friends.
It's an ever-changing group, some have left, new ones have come in.
The thing
to always remember is we were all new here at one time. It's not
something we
forget, and we do try our best to welcome those who find us and decide
they
want to stay. It may seem a bit daunting at first, but I can guarantee
that those
who do decide to stay will never be sorry. You'll forge friendships
you never
believed possible, and you'll be a part of a group that will get to
know you and
come to care for you as much as we do about each other.
That is a given.
Karen - former Mayor and Warmonger, now Editor
To reply change shy to ca
Nic
"Fluffs" <kfe...@magma.shy> wrote in message
news:3d1473a0...@news.magma.ca...
>
<snipped a fine, fine editorial>
>
> Karen - former Mayor and Warmonger, now Editor
>
>
reward! :))
Nic - <writing a fan letter>
Captain Sensible
> that thosestig
> who do decide to stay will never be sorry. You'll forge friendships
> you never
> believed possible, and you'll be a part of a group that will get to
> know you and
> come to care for you as much as we do about each other.
>
> That is a given.
>
> Karen - former Mayor and Warmonger, now Editor
>
>
> To reply change shy to ca
Well said, Karen. However, I think you need to go further and say something
about the diversity of opinion that people may encounter. I mean, it would
be no fun if we were all of the Borg and thought the same way. If this
group were like that, I wouldn't waste my time here. But having a
difference of opinion doesn't mean you don't like someone. Nor does it mean
you are deliberately trying to wind people up. Personally, I think this
group would be better and stronger if it were more tolerant of minority
opinion. If people genuinely want to grow, they must be open to the views
of other people (however off-the-wall they may appear). Remember it takes
all sorts to make a village. Good luck.
Captain Sensible
Spuddie
marmoset resembling Captain Sensible <cap...@hotmail.com> having a
bad hair day, rolled another joint and stated unequivocally:
<snipt an excellent editorial>
>Well said, Karen. However, I think you need to go further and say something
>about the diversity of opinion that people may encounter. I mean, it would
>be no fun if we were all of the Borg and thought the same way. If this
>group were like that, I wouldn't waste my time here. But having a
>difference of opinion doesn't mean you don't like someone. Nor does it mean
>you are deliberately trying to wind people up. Personally, I think this
>group would be better and stronger if it were more tolerant of minority
>opinion. If people genuinely want to grow, they must be open to the views
>of other people (however off-the-wall they may appear). Remember it takes
>all sorts to make a village. Good luck.
>
>Captain Sensible
Excuse me, Captain...can I just ask when "the group" (which is made up
of individuals...who are "all sorts" of people, and which is changing
all the time) has not been tolerant of minority opinion? Can you give
me an example? I myself have opinions that are about as far away from
the 'majority' on many different subjects, have expressed them freely
here and felt no animosity from anyone for it.
So I guess your post sorta puzzles me. No, we don't suffer fools
lightly here...we might stomp on trolls whose sole purpose is to stir
up shit and trounce on those who would use this "penpals" group as a
"personals ads" group, but overall, I think we're one of the most
tolerant and friendly groups I have ever had the pleasure of stumbling
into.
Nice to meet you, by the way. Stick around (in something other than
lurk mode) why don't you? :)
Cheryl
~~~Before I can live with other folks I've got to live with myself.
The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a
person's conscience.~~~ (Harper Lee)
Anamanda
>group would be better and stronger if it were more tolerant of minority
>opinion.
>Captain Sensible
Its okay.... I understand that there are certain uninformed persons who don't
consider Placido the greatest operatic tenor of all time.... I really am
tolerant of that miniscule minority...... Really I am.... Sure I am....Yeah
right!!!!!!
Anamanda
Anamanda
>to always remember is we were all new here at one time. It's not
>something we
>forget, and we do try our best to welcome those who find us and decide
>they
>want to stay. It may seem a bit daunting at first, but I can guarantee
>that those
>who do decide to stay will never be sorry. You'll forge friendships
>you never
>believed possible, and you'll be a part of a group that will get to
>know you and
>come to care for you as much as we do about each other.
>
>That is a given.
>
>Karen - former Mayor and Warmonger, now Editor
>
Eloquently put.... Ms Ex-Mayor, former Warmonger, Chainsaw toting, and Star
Reporter.....Karen... Not bad for a Canuck <grin>
Anamanda
Fluffs
Woooooohoooooooooo!
/me moving off to a corner so I don't hafta share!
Karen - getting fluffier as I type (and eat)
Fluffs
<cap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
ssssssnnnnniiiiiiipppppppppp
(you watching this, Spuddie?)
>Well said, Karen. However, I think you need to go further and say something
>about the diversity of opinion that people may encounter. I mean, it would
>be no fun if we were all of the Borg and thought the same way. If this
>group were like that, I wouldn't waste my time here. But having a
>difference of opinion doesn't mean you don't like someone. Nor does it mean
>you are deliberately trying to wind people up. Personally, I think this
>group would be better and stronger if it were more tolerant of minority
>opinion. If people genuinely want to grow, they must be open to the views
>of other people (however off-the-wall they may appear). Remember it takes
>all sorts to make a village. Good luck.
>
>Captain Sensible
Well Cap'n, I don't know of any instance in here where an opinion
wasn't respected. There certainly have been opposing opinions, and
very lively discussions about said opinions. Some have even got a bit
heated..depending on the topic and how strongly one feels about it.
There are quite a few of us who hold 'unpopular' opinions on various
subjects, and we've discussed them at length, each side giving their
argument in favour of what they believe. It's a very rare thing to see
these threads sink to the flame war level, and in the end we usually
agree to disagree and go on to something else.
None of us expect, nor would we want, everyone to think the same
as we do. It would be a damn boring place if that happened eh?
On the other hand..if one comes in and is deliberately provoking, we
can and do deal with that too. First, maybe giving the benefit of the
doubt, but if that person persists, then he/she is dealt with.
While I don't now, nor have I ever seen this group as a clique, I DO
know that when push comes to shove, we will band together and
protect what we consider a second home..and if one of our own is
attacked or being singled out for abuse, we react to that too.
There is a vast difference between a person having an opinion, and
a person looking to stir things up. And for the most part, the
instincts of those in here are usually dead on, in determining which
category said poster fits in.
General Karen (Ha! I out-rank ya!)
Fluffs
sssssnnnnnniiiiiiiiiippppppppp again! I'm going for a gold star
>>That is a given.
>>
>>Karen - former Mayor and Warmonger, now Editor
>>
>
>Eloquently put.... Ms Ex-Mayor, former Warmonger, Chainsaw toting, and Star
>Reporter.....Karen... Not bad for a Canuck <grin>
>Anamanda
Oy! Even us Canucks have our moments.
I should be good now until around 2008. eh?
Karen
Steve L Ferris
Is that just till you get your hands around their scrawny knecks?
steve
Frank Calidonna
diverse opinions and great discussion/arguments, but I have never known anyone
to be treated rudely or blown off IF they were sincere in their opinions. I am
not sure when you think the people in the group have been intolerant of
someone.
Frank
Cybe R. Wizard
in message <af2gdq$csq$1...@freenet9.carleton.ca>:
Diplomatic, she is.
Cybe R. Wizard
--
Unofficial "Wizard of Odds", A.H.P.
Original PORG Water Wizard, R.P.
Wize(ned) Wizard, A.P.F-P-Y
Barely Tolerated Wizard, A.J.L & A.A.L
Captain Sensible
Well, I'm not sure you do give people the benefit of the doubt. For
instance, when I first posted here (in March under another screen name), I
said I wasn't looking for a lover or a soul mate but just looking to make
new friends. But I was still given the GOFC run-around by Anamanda, murphy,
Jeanie and Annette. Well, methinks they think I am a liar and a hypocrite.
Perhaps it's too hard to believe anyone other than people living in North
America might be happy with their life. On the otherhand, perhaps they saw
me as an easy target - just another unsuspecting punter who is easily
baited. I have since looked through the Google archive and find I am not
the first person to think that. Also John (tAg) took an instant dislike to
me, and his loyal friends followed suit. In particular, there was a
diatribe against England and the English from Carliebear who characterised
England as being awash with left-wingers who hate blacks and French people.
This would be funny if it wasn's so bigotted. Most of the left-wingers I
know are pro-actively against racism. As for hating French people, well, I
have spent my holidays there over many years. I love France. As for stating
unpopular opinions, you should realize that when people criticise American
policy, it is the policy they dislike and not the people (nor the culture
for that matter). I sometimes get the impression that Americans sometimes
forget that people have the right to free speech, and that one of the
things that entails is that you might hear things that may displease you.
So, anyway, Jeanie decides I'm a troll. Her loyal friends follow her lead.
I get a message from Spuddie saying "fuck off and die" - this from a person
I have never had cross words with. And you wonder why new people don't hang
around for more than a couple of weeks. Maybe some of them are transients
anyway. I wonder how many are put off by the ethos of the group.
Captain Sensible
Anamanda
My apologies.... I have never intended to be cruel nor cause discomfort to
you. The GOFC is a light hearted group and if my misguided sense of humor was
offensive, then I am sorry.
Anamanda
Eva Bekker
kundzugeben und zu wissen:
<mega snip>
>As for stating
>unpopular opinions, you should realize that when people criticise American
>policy, it is the policy they dislike and not the people (nor the culture
>for that matter). I sometimes get the impression that Americans sometimes
>forget that people have the right to free speech, and that one of the
>things that entails is that you might hear things that may displease you.
>So, anyway, Jeanie decides I'm a troll. Her loyal friends follow her lead.
>I get a message from Spuddie saying "fuck off and die" - this from a person
>I have never had cross words with. And you wonder why new people don't hang
>around for more than a couple of weeks. Maybe some of them are transients
>anyway. I wonder how many are put off by the ethos of the group.
>
>Captain Sensible
Excuse me for dropping in - but I simply feel I have to reply to your
statement.
I have often posted my personal opinion in this group, about various
issues like death penalty, US politics, Mr.Bush, gun laws, war and
such. Very often I felt like standing alone with my point of view, and
surely most of the American penpals didn't like much of what I said.
Nevertheless, we've had serious but friendly, tolerant discussions
about these things, and so far I still feel like a "tolerated" member
of this group. I guess, you might have gotten a completely wrong
"first impression" when you first posted in this group. But, please,
think it over: Maybe you should have lurked for a while to pick up the
atmosphere in here and then have made a "perfect" start? Or maybe you
simply have been misunderstood? Why not be tolerant and give those who
thought you were a troll a second chance? Doesn't hurt, does it?
I don't think any newbies are put off by "the ethos" of this group. In
fact, this is a caring, sharing, colourfull and really tolerant group.
If you stay - you're going to find out, I'm sure.:)
Oh - and if you should reply to this, please don't think I don't have
more to say <g>, but I'll be gone for a couple of days - without
internet access.
Peace
Eva
--
http://bekker.bei.t-online.de
www.pigasus-publishing.de
Captain Sensible
Oh, thanks. Apology accepted.
Captain Sensible
Anamanda
>don't
>> consider Placido the greatest operatic tenor of all time.... I really am
>> tolerant of that miniscule minority...... Really I am.... Sure I
>am....Yeah
>> right!!!!!!
>> Anamanda
>
>
>Is that just till you get your hands around their scrawny knecks?
>
>
>steve
>
>
Anamanda <grin>
Anamanda
>>
>>
>> steve
>
>Diplomatic, she is.
>
>Cybe R. Wizard
>
>--
Sheesh why do you think I have a Beretta? Its to keep my hands clean. <grin>
Anamanda <owner of more than 60 Placido CD's>
Ærchie
I have one word for you, Anamanda,
PAVAROTTI
Ærchie - ducking and hiding the chocolate - whats left of it.
http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/archielims/
http://www.geocities.com/pigletsplace/
"Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and taste
good with ketchup."
murphy
> Now that I have finished conquering the U.S., it's time
> I dusted off the print press and got this paper rolling.
>
> In this first edition, I'd like to talk about the Village.
...well said Karen...!!...my compliments, even if you do grow those
w**********....time to talk to steve...<G>
murphy
Ærchie
wrote:
I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
off the press.
Ærchie
murphy
ab...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >...well said Karen...!!...my compliments, even if you do grow those
> >w**********....time to talk to steve...<G>
> >
> >murphy
>
> I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
> off the press.
>
> Ærchie
...if i were a s*****, i think hanging out in a w********* patch would be
heaven!....i'll bet there are MILLIONS of them in her patch...heh heh....
murphy
TygerD
Fluffs <kfe...@magma.shy> wrote in message
Gee General; does this mean you arn't gonna be so boppable when we discuss
the pros and cons of the merits or unmerits of Sp***rs. <G>
TygerD (wearing his cheese wedge hat just in case)
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Ærchie
wrote:
Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
<marty free zone>
The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
<Marty free zone off>
Spuddie
marmoset resembling Captain Sensible <cap...@hotmail.com> having a
bad hair day, rolled another joint and stated unequivocally:
>Fluffs wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:46:33 +0000, Captain Sensible
>> <cap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ssssssnnnnniiiiiiipppppppppp
>> (you watching this, Spuddie?)
Yes, ma'm!
>Well, I'm not sure you do give people the benefit of the doubt. For
>instance, when I first posted here (in March under another screen name),
Or make that two...
> I
>said I wasn't looking for a lover or a soul mate but just looking to make
>new friends. But I was still given the GOFC run-around by Anamanda, murphy,
>Jeanie and Annette. Well, methinks they think I am a liar and a hypocrite.
>Perhaps it's too hard to believe anyone other than people living in North
>America might be happy with their life. On the otherhand, perhaps they saw
>me as an easy target - just another unsuspecting punter who is easily
>baited. I have since looked through the Google archive and find I am not
>the first person to think that. Also John (tAg) took an instant dislike to
>me, and his loyal friends followed suit.
Excuse me...but that's a bunch of baloney! If you look at Google (as
you say you do), I think you'll find that you were warmly welcomed
when you first arrived here. You spent over a month posting and
interacting on a regular basis and no one here batted an eyelash at
you. It was when your posts started to deteriorate--and by that I mean
you started calling names and making things 'personal' rather than
discussing issues rationally--that people started being 'not so nice'
back to you. It wasn't your views that weren't accepted, it's that you
weren't able to discuss rationally without taking things personally.
>In particular, there was a
>diatribe against England and the English from Carliebear who characterised
>England as being awash with left-wingers who hate blacks and French people.
>This would be funny if it wasn's so bigotted. Most of the left-wingers I
>know are pro-actively against racism. As for hating French people, well, I
>have spent my holidays there over many years. I love France.
Sooooo...hearing someone else's opinion about England that doesn't
agree with yours isn't acceptable then? Everyone's supposed to agree
with you? Maybe Carl's opinion is in the minority...but weren't you
just saying that minority opinions should be accepted along with the
rest? Or does that only apply if the minority opinion is yours?
> As for stating
>unpopular opinions, you should realize that when people criticise American
>policy, it is the policy they dislike and not the people (nor the culture
>for that matter). I sometimes get the impression that Americans sometimes
>forget that people have the right to free speech, and that one of the
>things that entails is that you might hear things that may displease you.
I do hope you realize that Americans are *not* in the majority here
when it comes to regular posters...oh sure, there's a few of us. But
when you add together the Brits, the Canadians, the Germans, the South
Africans and the Ozzies, I rather think we're outnumbered...so I'm not
sure why you mention "Americans" specifically.
>So, anyway, Jeanie decides I'm a troll. Her loyal friends follow her lead.
>I get a message from Spuddie saying "fuck off and die" - this from a person
>I have never had cross words with.
As I said, you participated here and seemed just fine for more than a
month. I don't tell people to FOAD unless there's good reason. And in
my opinion, insulting my friends is a good reason. (Remember guys?
This is John(UK) the praline fan aka John Jones the furryworm who told
Jeanie "not to forget your bat" during an attempted discussion where
he also belittled her opinions, told Anamanda to "go back to picking
on the unsuspecting; it's more your style"...among other things.)
I don't know what happened...did you get into a fresh bottle of whisky
that week or run out of your antipsychotic medications or what? You
had seemed to be a pretty reasonable person up to that point.
>And you wonder why new people don't hang
>around for more than a couple of weeks. Maybe some of them are transients
>anyway. I wonder how many are put off by the ethos of the group.
>Captain Sensible
Well, our ethos obviously can't have been too bad. You're still here,
aren't you, "Captain?"
Cheryl
~~~I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang
around until you get used to it.~~~ (Charles Schulz)
Cubby
Oh, I do hate to see people apologising for having a sense of humour...but
I suppose needs must ;-)
--
Cubby
"After each war there is a little less democracy to save."
*Brooks Atkinson 1894-1984
Cubby
> >> Is that just till you get your hands around their scrawny knecks?
> >>
> >>
> >> steve
> >
> >Diplomatic, she is.
> >
> >Cybe R. Wizard
> >
> >--
> Actually, I wouldn't do something like that...it might break a fingernail.
> Anamanda
>
Which reminds me - the one you broke in my back has finally been
retrieved :-ppp
--
Cubby...insisting on gloves before taking you riding again..
"Truth is the most valuable thing we have. Let us economize it."
*Mark Twain (Samuel Langhorne Clemens) 1835-1910
Captain Sensible
to take your bat home" isn't very rude. In fact on a scale of 1 to 10, I
would hardly rate it a 3. And no it wasn't alcohol induced or the result of
a psychosis. It may have been that I was tired or lacking the mental energy
to get into convoluted arguments. Sometimes I'm just plain lazy. I rate
Jeanie as very bright and her case was well argued. Maybe she deserved a
better response than the one she got from me, but I'm not always on top
form, and even I (a philosophy graduate) can lapse into rhetoric at times.
Captain Sensible
Fluffs
<cap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
sssssnnnnniiippppppp again!
Damn I'm getting good at that!
>Well, I'm not sure you do give people the benefit of the doubt. For
>instance, when I first posted here (in March under another screen name), I
>said I wasn't looking for a lover or a soul mate but just looking to make
>new friends.
Ok..we'll take this bit by bit shall we? I'm not very computer savvy,
which in itself is terrible, given the amount of time I've been on
here...but, I digress. I have to wonder about anyone who feels the
need to come in under so many different guises. Why is that?
> But I was still given the GOFC run-around by Anamanda, murphy,
>Jeanie and Annette. Well, methinks they think I am a liar and a hypocrite.
>Perhaps it's too hard to believe anyone other than people living in North
>America might be happy with their life. On the otherhand, perhaps they saw
>me as an easy target - just another unsuspecting punter who is easily
>baited.
I have to admit when I first read this, I felt bad for you..but I was
also skeptical..I have known all four of the women you have mentioned
for quite a long time in here, and I knew with certainty that NONE of
them are, nor have they ever been, malicious or mean-spirited.
So, I used my limited knowledge and did a simple check of the headers
from your post..and compared them with Stig..they were the
same..surprise eh? And mister, even you would have to admit that when
you came in under that name, you were antagonistic attacking the GOFC
with snide comments..you didn't bother to explain why you felt the way
you did, you just jumped in with both feet and fired away. Did you
honestly not expect responses to that? And more to the point, who was
doing the baiting in that instance?
> I have since looked through the Google archive and find I am not
>the first person to think that. Also John (tAg) took an instant dislike to
>me, and his loyal friends followed suit. In particular, there was a
>diatribe against England and the English from Carliebear who characterised
>England as being awash with left-wingers who hate blacks and French people.
Again, I have never figured out how to do them Google searches, but
there are other far more clever people in here..Spuddie for instance,
and she sure found out a lot in those archives didn't she? I do
remember the John UK and the comments made to Jeanie, and if that
was you, you certainly have no cause for complaint when you get back
what you dish out.
Carliebear is a person of no pretense..he may have very different
views of the Brits than most of us here, but they are his views, and
he doesn't hide behind a mask when he states them. He's also a
perfect example of how we in the group DO accept minority opinion.
He's always been liked and accepted in here.
>This would be funny if it wasn's so bigotted. Most of the left-wingers I
>know are pro-actively against racism. As for hating French people, well, I
>have spent my holidays there over many years. I love France. As for stating
>unpopular opinions, you should realize that when people criticise American
>policy, it is the policy they dislike and not the people (nor the culture
>for that matter). I sometimes get the impression that Americans sometimes
>forget that people have the right to free speech, and that one of the
>things that entails is that you might hear things that may displease you.
I think Spuddie already addressed this one..Americans make up only a
portion in this group. I'm not American, but Canadian, which is
probably the same in your eyes..actually, it is the same except we say
'eh' a lot more.
And let's be clear about something here..Free Speech is a right in
every democratic country..but that doesn't give license to say
insulting and derogatory things..there is a vast difference between
freedom of speech and just plain rudeness..and I think you know that
that line had been crossed.
>So, anyway, Jeanie decides I'm a troll. Her loyal friends follow her lead.
>I get a message from Spuddie saying "fuck off and die" - this from a person
>I have never had cross words with. And you wonder why new people don't hang
>around for more than a couple of weeks. Maybe some of them are transients
>anyway. I wonder how many are put off by the ethos of the group.
>
>Captain Sensible
Let me ask you something..if you were hosting a party and some person
came in and started insulting your guests, would you politely smile
and ignore that person? Or would you be showing them the door?
I don't recall all the details of when you were yet another person
here, but I stand by my opinion that if Jeanie (and the others)
thought you were a troll, then she had reason to think so. The fact
that you resorted to name-calling and snide remarks in response to her
does little to further your cause. Of all the people in here, Jeanie
is usually the very first to welcome them, this is not the actions of
someone looking for trouble..she is what she appears to all of us who
know her, a lady, and a caring person...AND one who doesn't hide
behind a multitude of masks.
I'm not worried about anyone being put off by the ethos of this group.
We welcome all who are 'genuinely' interested in joining...but
obviously it's not to everyone's taste.
I do hope that you finally find what you are looking for.
Karen
Fluffs
wrote:
>> There is a vast difference between a person having an opinion, and
>> a person looking to stir things up. And for the most part, the
>> instincts of those in here are usually dead on, in determining which
>> category said poster fits in.
>>
>> General Karen (Ha! I out-rank ya!)
>>
>> To reply change shy to ca
>
>Gee General; does this mean you arn't gonna be so boppable when we discuss
>the pros and cons of the merits or unmerits of Sp***rs. <G>
>
>TygerD (wearing his cheese wedge hat just in case)
BOPPPPPPPPPPPP
That was for being a stirrer!
And there's more where that came from too!
Karen
Fluffs
wrote:
>In article <3d1473a0...@news.magma.ca>, kfe...@magma.shy wrote:
I didn't plant any WATERMELONS this year..wot was the point?
Steve kept thinking they were weeds and pulling them. The murderer..
Fluffs
wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:00:53 -0700, coa...@uniserve.com (murphy)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <3d1473a0...@news.magma.ca>, kfe...@magma.shy wrote:
>>
>>> Now that I have finished conquering the U.S., it's time
>>> I dusted off the print press and got this paper rolling.
>>>
>>> In this first edition, I'd like to talk about the Village.
>>
>>
>>...well said Karen...!!...my compliments, even if you do grow those
>>w**********....time to talk to steve...<G>
>>
>>murphy
>
>I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
>off the press.
>
>Ærchie
None! I sent the cats in first :-pp
I may be blonde, and a DiP..but i'm not stoopid!
Fluffs
wrote:
>In article <2sbahuguqbnll2ahc...@4ax.com>, as
Since I never planted any I guess they've all gone to your place?
Fluffs
wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:40:26 -0700, coa...@uniserve.com (murphy)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <2sbahuguqbnll2ahc...@4ax.com>, as
>>ab...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> >...well said Karen...!!...my compliments, even if you do grow those
>>> >w**********....time to talk to steve...<G>
>>> >
>>> >murphy
>>>
>>> I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
>>> off the press.
>>>
>>> Ærchie
>>
>>...if i were a s*****, i think hanging out in a w********* patch would be
>>heaven!....i'll bet there are MILLIONS of them in her patch...heh heh....
>>
>>murphy
>
>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
><marty free zone>
>
>The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
>around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
>
><Marty free zone off>
>
>Ærchie
I'm not worried..never got into that metric shit..so my lawn only
has square feet! ha!
Ærchie
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 13:32:43 +0800, Ærchie <arch...@pphotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:40:26 -0700, coa...@uniserve.com (murphy)
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <2sbahuguqbnll2ahc...@4ax.com>, as
>>>ab...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> >...well said Karen...!!...my compliments, even if you do grow those
>>>> >w**********....time to talk to steve...<G>
>>>> >
>>>> >murphy
>>>>
>>>> I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
>>>> off the press.
>>>>
>>>> Ærchie
>>>
>>>...if i were a s*****, i think hanging out in a w********* patch would be
>>>heaven!....i'll bet there are MILLIONS of them in her patch...heh heh....
>>>
>>>murphy
>>
>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>
>Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
Marty - DONT read what follows - I am trying to protect you. Truly.
>
>><marty free zone>
>>
>>The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
>>around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
>>
>><Marty free zone off>
>>
>>Ærchie
>
>I'm not worried..never got into that metric shit..so my lawn only
>has square feet! ha!
>
>Karen
Oh well then - every time you put down one of your square feet there
are around a hundred of those slimy, creepy crawly, multi-legged
little beasties underneath your foot.
hehehehehe
Annette
Be assured, you would not get the plank treatment if you have not deserved
it.
Care to tell us if you perhaps posted under more names here than the
present one and the one mentioned of the past?
A simple yes would do.
I really don't care how many names a person use to post under here, as long
as he/she change personality and writing style as well.
It is just too boring for words to plank the same person over and over again
for the same offence, just because he/she uses a different name.
Anyhow, since I don't feel guilty, I cannot apologise - but for some reason
I feel we will see each other at the plank again - soon.
Annette ( the oracle)
"Captain Sensible" <cap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:af319p$22e$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
Captain Sensible
> On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:30:36 +0000, Captain Sensible
> <cap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> sssssnnnnniiippppppp again!
> Damn I'm getting good at that!
>
>
>>Well, I'm not sure you do give people the benefit of the doubt. For
>>instance, when I first posted here (in March under another screen name), I
>>said I wasn't looking for a lover or a soul mate but just looking to make
>>new friends.
>
> Ok..we'll take this bit by bit shall we? I'm not very computer savvy,
> which in itself is terrible, given the amount of time I've been on
> here...but, I digress. I have to wonder about anyone who feels the
> need to come in under so many different guises. Why is that?
Of course I have used different aliases. There's absolutely nothing to stop
me doing that. But the purpose has not been to deceive. Why do you think I
always post from the same ISP - Planet Online? The clues are in the headers
as you have rightly discovered.
>
>> But I was still given the GOFC run-around by Anamanda, murphy,
>>Jeanie and Annette. Well, methinks they think I am a liar and a hypocrite.
>>Perhaps it's too hard to believe anyone other than people living in North
>>America might be happy with their life. On the otherhand, perhaps they saw
>>me as an easy target - just another unsuspecting punter who is easily
>>baited.
>
> I have to admit when I first read this, I felt bad for you..but I was
> also skeptical..I have known all four of the women you have mentioned
> for quite a long time in here, and I knew with certainty that NONE of
> them are, nor have they ever been, malicious or mean-spirited.
> So, I used my limited knowledge and did a simple check of the headers
> from your post..and compared them with Stig..they were the
> same..surprise eh? And mister, even you would have to admit that when
> you came in under that name, you were antagonistic attacking the GOFC
> with snide comments..you didn't bother to explain why you felt the way
> you did, you just jumped in with both feet and fired away. Did you
> honestly not expect responses to that? And more to the point, who was
> doing the baiting in that instance?
>
Is antagonistic illegal? Or do you prefer that only the older members of the
group are allowed to be antagonistic? Isn't that a case of dual standards?
>> I have since looked through the Google archive and find I am not
>>the first person to think that. Also John (tAg) took an instant dislike to
>>me, and his loyal friends followed suit. In particular, there was a
>>diatribe against England and the English from Carliebear who characterised
>>England as being awash with left-wingers who hate blacks and French
>>people.
>
> Again, I have never figured out how to do them Google searches, but
> there are other far more clever people in here..Spuddie for instance,
> and she sure found out a lot in those archives didn't she? I do
> remember the John UK and the comments made to Jeanie, and if that
> was you, you certainly have no cause for complaint when you get back
> what you dish out.
> Carliebear is a person of no pretense..he may have very different
> views of the Brits than most of us here, but they are his views, and
> he doesn't hide behind a mask when he states them. He's also a
> perfect example of how we in the group DO accept minority opinion.
> He's always been liked and accepted in here.
The only problem with your thesis here is I wasn't dishing anything out. I
was expressing a genuinely felt concern over a political issue.
>
>>This would be funny if it wasn's so bigotted. Most of the left-wingers I
>>know are pro-actively against racism. As for hating French people, well, I
>>have spent my holidays there over many years. I love France. As for
>>stating unpopular opinions, you should realize that when people criticise
>>American policy, it is the policy they dislike and not the people (nor the
>>culture for that matter). I sometimes get the impression that Americans
>>sometimes forget that people have the right to free speech, and that one
>>of the things that entails is that you might hear things that may
>>displease you.
>
> I think Spuddie already addressed this one..Americans make up only a
> portion in this group. I'm not American, but Canadian, which is
> probably the same in your eyes..actually, it is the same except we say
> 'eh' a lot more.
> And let's be clear about something here..Free Speech is a right in
> every democratic country..but that doesn't give license to say
> insulting and derogatory things..there is a vast difference between
> freedom of speech and just plain rudeness..and I think you know that
> that line had been crossed.
Dual standards, eh? It's wrong for me to say "Don't forget to take your bat
home" but okay for Spuddie to say "Fuck off and die" ? Eh?
>
>>So, anyway, Jeanie decides I'm a troll. Her loyal friends follow her lead.
>>I get a message from Spuddie saying "fuck off and die" - this from a
>>person I have never had cross words with. And you wonder why new people
>>don't hang around for more than a couple of weeks. Maybe some of them are
>>transients anyway. I wonder how many are put off by the ethos of the
>>group.
>>
>>Captain Sensible
>
> Let me ask you something..if you were hosting a party and some person
> came in and started insulting your guests, would you politely smile
> and ignore that person? Or would you be showing them the door?
> I don't recall all the details of when you were yet another person
> here, but I stand by my opinion that if Jeanie (and the others)
> thought you were a troll, then she had reason to think so. The fact
> that you resorted to name-calling and snide remarks in response to her
> does little to further your cause. Of all the people in here, Jeanie
> is usually the very first to welcome them, this is not the actions of
> someone looking for trouble..she is what she appears to all of us who
> know her, a lady, and a caring person...AND one who doesn't hide
> behind a multitude of masks.
Jeanie was wrong to class me as a troll. I wasn't trolling anyone at that
stage. But if that's the game you want to play, I promise I won't
disappoint you.
>
> I'm not worried about anyone being put off by the ethos of this group.
> We welcome all who are 'genuinely' interested in joining...but
> obviously it's not to everyone's taste.
> I do hope that you finally find what you are looking for.
>
If you took the trouble to get to know me, I think you would like me.
Captain Sensible
PS If you spend a lot of time looking at headers, you might find someone who
isn't hiding. Enigmatic, eh? Think about it :)
hannah savannah at the pianah
>From: anam...@aol.com (Anamanda)
>Date: 22/06/02 23:53 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <20020622185347...@mb-ma.aol.com>
Be warned--Anamanda is the PR exec for this sinister group--which is just
another arm of the New World Order(NWO). In return for a red Ferrari she is
willing to sell her soul to this cultist group of preternaturally pretentious
primping piratical
parties pushing of punitive punishments
carliebear (slap) ouch aw geez waaaaaghhhhhhhhh (splash)
http://www.wavynavy.com
http://www.gyrefire.com
http://www.ipabc.com
(personal-non-commercial)
was it a year or lives ago we
caught the summer flying low, eh!
hannah savannah at the pianah
>Date: 23/06/02 00:18 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <af30mi$6u0$05$1...@news.t-online.com>
not to mention one with a strong undercurrent of sensuality--which we could all
use more of
>If you stay - you're going to find out, I'm sure.:)
>
>Oh - and if you should reply to this, please don't think I don't have
>more to say <g>, but I'll be gone for a couple of days - without
>internet access.
>
>
>
>
>Peace
>Eva
>--
>http://bekker.bei.t-online.de
>www.pigasus-publishing.de
>
>
>
>
>
>
hannah savannah at the pianah
>Date: 23/06/02 08:20 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <fkrahus66b8ivj0n3...@4ax.com>
>
>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:30:36 +0000 in the land of Nod, a three-toed
>marmoset
SNAP as the Bwits say
I'm amazed you mentioned these lovely rodentia - some time ago when I was
whimsically contemplating the prospect of retiring to the country with a young
lady (well young enough to be in this group anyway) - but meanwhile bemoaning
our combined lack of the folding green--we DID raise the prospect of breeding
marmosets in the bathtub
You have brought a romantic tear to my tummy Spuddie buddy
carliebear the erstwhile breeder of rodentia
Captain Sensible
Ærchie
at the pianah) wrote:
>>Subject: Re: Village News - Editorial
>>From: anam...@aol.com (Anamanda)
>>Date: 22/06/02 23:53 GMT Daylight Time
>>Message-id: <20020622185347...@mb-ma.aol.com>
>>
>>> But I was still given the GOFC run-around by Anamanda,
>>
>>My apologies.... I have never intended to be cruel nor cause discomfort to
>>you. The GOFC is a light hearted group and if my misguided sense of humor was
>>offensive, then I am sorry.
>>Anamanda
>
>
>Be warned--Anamanda is the PR exec for this sinister group--which is just
>another arm of the New World Order(NWO). In return for a red Ferrari she is
>willing to sell her soul to this cultist group of preternaturally pretentious
>primping piratical
>parties pushing of punitive punishments
>
>carliebear (slap) ouch aw geez waaaaaghhhhhhhhh (splash)
>
>
>
chick chomps chocolate, charlie!
Ærchie - alliterating aqueously (splash)
Anamanda
>another arm of the New World Order(NWO). In return for a red Ferrari she is
>willing to sell her soul to this cultist group of preternaturally pretentious
>primping piratical
>parties pushing of punitive punishments
>
>carliebear (slap) ouch aw geez waaaaaghhhhhhhhh (splash)
My T-bird just growled......now I am going to have to pamper the light blue
darling...Carlie, kindly remember..... Canada is not that far away....Hmmmmm,
are you certain you know how to swim?
Anamanda <grin>
Anamanda
>
>PAVAROTTI
>
>Ærchie - ducking and hiding the chocolate - whats left of it.
ARRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH,
Anamanda
Spuddie
marmoset resembling Captain Sensible <cap...@hotmail.com> having a
bad hair day, rolled another joint and stated unequivocally:
>I think you need to get a sense of proportion, Spuddie. Saying "don't forget
>to take your bat home" isn't very rude. In fact on a scale of 1 to 10, I
>would hardly rate it a 3.
It wasn't just that one statement...it was the whole tone your
discussion with Jeanie had taken. She was trying to have a genuine
discussion with you, had obviously spent a lot of time writing
responses, and when she'd make a point, you'd sarcastically write, "So
what?" Several times. She politely asked you to explain some of your
points further and you made a joke of it and basically inferred that
she was a war-mongering American and that was the whole problem. And
it wasn't just that one thread that prompted me to tell you to
FOAD...it was the whole tone of your posts over a few days' time. They
had noticeably changed with everyone you were interacting with on the
group. I don't know why Anamanda apologized to YOU...it certainly
should have been the other way around as far as I'm concerned! As long
as people agreed with you, you were fine...but let some disagreement
creep in and suddenly we're the bad guys and you start making personal
attacks.
> And no it wasn't alcohol induced or the result of
>a psychosis. It may have been that I was tired or lacking the mental energy
>to get into convoluted arguments. Sometimes I'm just plain lazy. I rate
>Jeanie as very bright and her case was well argued. Maybe she deserved a
>better response than the one she got from me, but I'm not always on top
>form, and even I (a philosophy graduate) can lapse into rhetoric at times.
>
>Captain Sensible
Then why not just come back and say, "Gee, sorry...I've been a little
tired and stressed of late, I know some of my responses have been
brusque and sarcastic...sorry, let's get on with it." We ALL have bad
days and go through moods...none of us is top form all the
time...we're human, after all. The "sensible" thing to do would've
been to give us some insight into what was happening with you. After
all, you had only been around for a month...we didn't know you well
enough to just think, "Ah, John must be going through a bad patch
again, let's cut him some slack." Which is what we regulars often will
do with each other...because we've been here and stuck it out over
time.
But instead of an explanation, you simply left and didn't come back.
And when you do come back, you post under two different names (again)
and with the same negative, bristly attitude, saying it's 'our fault'
you didn't fit in. And no, it's not illegal to post under different
names. Not at all. True, you made no attempt at munging the headers,
but most folks here tend to take people at face value unless something
makes them suspect that something's amiss. It does make me wonder why
you would want to change identities so often if you genuinely *want*
to fit in here as you say you do. And if you don't want to...what on
earth are you bitching about?
This is a penpals group--people post here looking for e-mail pals.
It's also a usenet group with no set topic, just a bunch of people who
started hanging out here and posting...being part of this group is
about getting to know each other, sharing and discussing. Many of us
have been here since the groups inception in the fall of '96 or
shortly thereafter. When you've been interacting with several of the
same people for that long, and in many cases have even met some of
them in person, your bond and loyalty to them is going to be much
stronger than to someone like yourself who has been here for a short
time. If outsiders come in and attack some of those people--whom I
think of as friends and adopted family--you're darned right we will
circle the wagons and protect each other! And defending friends is
something I won't apologize for.
Does that make us a clique?? You may think so, but I don't...many
folks over the years have left, many other new people have come in and
joined and become active participants and 'regulars' here. Several of
our current regulars have been around less than a year. There are
people from all walks of life who have differing opinions on all sorts
of matters within the group of regulars. We represent a fairly wide
cross-section of humanity and yet we all manage to get along most of
the time (yes, we DO sometimes even have arguments amongst ourselves!)
because we respect each other. We don't care if you're black, white,
brown or purple; if you're Christian, Muslim, or athiest; if you're
Canadian, Chinese or Russian; if you're a bricklayer, a CEO of a
company or unemployed; you could be a double-amputee transvestite
Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
become part of this group...as long as you respect others and their
opinions, can give and take, and can accept the rest of us as human,
you'll be welcome. Finger-pointing, name-calling and nastiness
generally begets the same.
Cheryl
~~~There is no defense against adverse fortune which is so
effectual as an habitual sense of humor.~~~
(Thomas W. Higginson)
Spuddie
marmoset resembling kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) having a bad hair day,
rolled another joint and stated unequivocally:
>I didn't plant any WATERMELONS this year..wot was the point?
>Steve kept thinking they were weeds and pulling them. The murderer..
>
>Karen
<snicker> He kept "thinking they were weeds" eh? You didn't notice all
that Australian and American currency he's been flashing lately then?
Cheryl
~~~When you're green, your growing. When you're ripe, you rot.~~~
(Ray Kroc)
Ærchie
Hey - thats not my typewriting - I've been framed!!
Ærchie - who knows only one way to hide chocolate - yummmmmm
Anamanda
>> Actually, I wouldn't do something like that...it might break a fingernail.
>>
>Which reminds me - the one you broke in my back has finally been=20
>retrieved :-ppp
>--=20
>Cubby...insisting on gloves before taking you riding again..
I told you not to say Pavarotti.....
Anamanda
Anamanda
>
>Captain Sensible
JohnUK, furry worm, Steig, Captain Sensible...... methinks I need to listen
more to Annette.
Anamanda
Fluffs
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:55:38 GMT, kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) wrote:
>
>>>>> I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
>>>>> off the press.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ærchie
>>>>
>>>>...if i were a s*****, i think hanging out in a w********* patch would be
>>>>heaven!....i'll bet there are MILLIONS of them in her patch...heh heh....
>>>>
>>>>murphy
>>>
>>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
>
>Marty - DONT read what follows - I am trying to protect you. Truly.
Now who do you think she's gonna believe?
>>><marty free zone>
>>>
>>>The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
>>>around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
>>>
>>><Marty free zone off>
>>>
>>>Ærchie
>>
>>I'm not worried..never got into that metric shit..so my lawn only
>>has square feet! ha!
>>
>>Karen
>
>Oh well then - every time you put down one of your square feet there
>are around a hundred of those slimy, creepy crawly, multi-legged
>little beasties underneath your foot.
>
>hehehehehe
>
>Ærchie
And are you one of them 'scientists who know all about everything"?
I thought not..and THEY said 'square metre' so I'm safe!!
Ha!
Fluffs
<cap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Fluffs wrote:
>> sssssnnnnniiippppppp again!
>> Damn I'm getting good at that!
>>
>>
>>>Well, I'm not sure you do give people the benefit of the doubt. For
>>>instance, when I first posted here (in March under another screen name), I
>>>said I wasn't looking for a lover or a soul mate but just looking to make
>>>new friends.
>>
>> Ok..we'll take this bit by bit shall we? I'm not very computer savvy,
>> which in itself is terrible, given the amount of time I've been on
>> here...but, I digress. I have to wonder about anyone who feels the
>> need to come in under so many different guises. Why is that?
>
>Of course I have used different aliases. There's absolutely nothing to stop
>me doing that. But the purpose has not been to deceive. Why do you think I
>always post from the same ISP - Planet Online? The clues are in the headers
>as you have rightly discovered.
I know there's nothing to stop you, or anyone from doing that..but I
strongly doubt that meaning to deceive is not your motive...
(my opinion, it just might be a minority one, so you'll have to
tolerate it)
>> I have to admit when I first read this, I felt bad for you..but I was
>> also skeptical..I have known all four of the women you have mentioned
>> for quite a long time in here, and I knew with certainty that NONE of
>> them are, nor have they ever been, malicious or mean-spirited.
>> So, I used my limited knowledge and did a simple check of the headers
>> from your post..and compared them with Stig..they were the
>> same..surprise eh? And mister, even you would have to admit that when
>> you came in under that name, you were antagonistic attacking the GOFC
>> with snide comments..you didn't bother to explain why you felt the way
>> you did, you just jumped in with both feet and fired away. Did you
>> honestly not expect responses to that? And more to the point, who was
>> doing the baiting in that instance?
>>
>
>Is antagonistic illegal? Or do you prefer that only the older members of the
>group are allowed to be antagonistic? Isn't that a case of dual standards?
Antagonistic is certainly not illegal, but if one chooses to post that
way, why would they feel they have a right to later whine about the
like-responses he/she gets?
I haven't found any of the regular/older members starting out to be
antagonizing..but on the other hand, I can sure vouch that almost
every one of them can be if provoked...
>> Again, I have never figured out how to do them Google searches, but
>> there are other far more clever people in here..Spuddie for instance,
>> and she sure found out a lot in those archives didn't she? I do
>> remember the John UK and the comments made to Jeanie, and if that
>> was you, you certainly have no cause for complaint when you get back
>> what you dish out.
>> Carliebear is a person of no pretense..he may have very different
>> views of the Brits than most of us here, but they are his views, and
>> he doesn't hide behind a mask when he states them. He's also a
>> perfect example of how we in the group DO accept minority opinion.
>> He's always been liked and accepted in here.
>
>The only problem with your thesis here is I wasn't dishing anything out. I
>was expressing a genuinely felt concern over a political issue.
I am not aware of that thread, so can't comment on it..I don't get
involved with political issues in the group as a rule..I am active in
the politics of my country where I can make a difference, but am not
really up on the world at large.
The post I WAS referring to, was the one you replied to under the name
Stig in response to Ærchie's reposting the GOFC stats. You were openly
critical and almost hostile about the group..so yes, you were dishing
it out..and without provocation.
>> I think Spuddie already addressed this one..Americans make up only a
>> portion in this group. I'm not American, but Canadian, which is
>> probably the same in your eyes..actually, it is the same except we say
>> 'eh' a lot more.
>> And let's be clear about something here..Free Speech is a right in
>> every democratic country..but that doesn't give license to say
>> insulting and derogatory things..there is a vast difference between
>> freedom of speech and just plain rudeness..and I think you know that
>> that line had been crossed.
>
>Dual standards, eh? It's wrong for me to say "Don't forget to take your bat
>home" but okay for Spuddie to say "Fuck off and die" ? Eh?
I'm going to disappoint you here..because my only reply to this isn't
some intelligent psycho-babble, way over my head, that stuff..but the
obvious and most fitting reply that applies to both of these instances
is..you started it!
>> Let me ask you something..if you were hosting a party and some person
>> came in and started insulting your guests, would you politely smile
>> and ignore that person? Or would you be showing them the door?
>> I don't recall all the details of when you were yet another person
>> here, but I stand by my opinion that if Jeanie (and the others)
>> thought you were a troll, then she had reason to think so. The fact
>> that you resorted to name-calling and snide remarks in response to her
>> does little to further your cause. Of all the people in here, Jeanie
>> is usually the very first to welcome them, this is not the actions of
>> someone looking for trouble..she is what she appears to all of us who
>> know her, a lady, and a caring person...AND one who doesn't hide
>> behind a multitude of masks.
>
>Jeanie was wrong to class me as a troll. I wasn't trolling anyone at that
>stage. But if that's the game you want to play, I promise I won't
>disappoint you.
Unlike you, and your many guises..I don't play games..I play in here,
have fun, and go on about my day..but I don't and won't do the kind of
games you obviously like to play. You want to be Stig...or John
Jones..or whoever else you are? Fine..have fun with it
But know this..your very attitude and unwillingness to be YOU is what
is causing all your problems. You cry about the group shunning you
and casting you aside..when that is impossible, because I doubt anyone
here has even seen the real you. Why exactly is that?
>> I'm not worried about anyone being put off by the ethos of this group.
>> We welcome all who are 'genuinely' interested in joining...but
>> obviously it's not to everyone's taste.
>> I do hope that you finally find what you are looking for.
>>
>
>If you took the trouble to get to know me, I think you would like me.
You might well be right..but that hasn't happened so far has
it..because you aren't showing you..just a bunch of names..
>Captain Sensible
>
>PS If you spend a lot of time looking at headers, you might find someone who
>isn't hiding. Enigmatic, eh? Think about it :)
Consider yourself honoured..this was the first time I tried looking at
headers, mostly to see if I could..I was quite pleased to have found
the connection...made me feel a lot less DiPpy.
But I'll pass on your offer, if you are in fact in here, unhidden and
well accepted, then good..it restores my faith in mankind.
Ærchie
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:35:05 +0800, Ærchie <arch...@pphotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:55:38 GMT, kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) wrote:
>>
>>>>>> I'm left wondering how many s****** she found while she was dusting
>>>>>> off the press.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ærchie
>>>>>
>>>>>...if i were a s*****, i think hanging out in a w********* patch would be
>>>>>heaven!....i'll bet there are MILLIONS of them in her patch...heh heh....
>>>>>
>>>>>murphy
>>>>
>>>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
>>
>>Marty - DONT read what follows - I am trying to protect you. Truly.
>
>Now who do you think she's gonna believe?
I'm her bruvver wot tries to protect her from things :)
>
>>>><marty free zone>
>>>>
>>>>The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
>>>>around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
>>>>
>>>><Marty free zone off>
>>>>
>>>>Ærchie
>>>
>>>I'm not worried..never got into that metric shit..so my lawn only
>>>has square feet! ha!
>>>
>>>Karen
>>
>>Oh well then - every time you put down one of your square feet there
>>are around a hundred of those slimy, creepy crawly, multi-legged
>>little beasties underneath your foot.
>>
>>hehehehehe
>>
>>Ærchie
>
>And are you one of them 'scientists who know all about everything"?
>I thought not..and THEY said 'square metre' so I'm safe!!
>
>Ha!
>
>Karen
Thats fine - I don't insist that you believe me
They didn't believe whats his name either
And yet the Earth still moves
Annette
Be assured that I, being from the country with the most progressive and
proactive constitution in the world, will make sure that you will know
exactly the reason each time you walk the plank.
It is really quite an honour.
Why are you so defensive about it?
Annette
"Captain Sensible" <cap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:af4j4s$u1p$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
Marty
>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>
><marty free zone>
>
>The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
>around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
>
><Marty free zone off>
>
>Ćrchie
>
Twit. You KNOW I never do what I'm told! As least you had the intelligence to
use the ******.
Marty {who's now wearing shoes on the lawn}
Marty
Ćrchie wrote
>>>>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
>>>
>>>Marty - DONT read what follows - I am trying to protect you. Truly.
>>
>>Now who do you think she's gonna believe?
>
>I'm her bruvver wot tries to protect her from things :)
>>
>Ćrchie
This much is true. Ćrchie is in the protection racket.
Myself -- I'm going broke. Maybe it is time to tell Mom.
Marty
murphy
..heh heh heh....excellent work steve....<G>
murphy, happy about the WM free zone near ottawa...
>
> Karen
murphy
..possibly - but the slugs have likely eaten them...or else one of the
cats patted them all to death...
murphy, friend to spiders....:)
PS:....you comin' out west this summer???
>
> Karen
Steve L Ferris
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:51:50 GMT in the land of Nod, a three-toed
> marmoset resembling kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) having a bad hair day,
> rolled another joint and stated unequivocally:
>
>>I didn't plant any WATERMELONS this year..wot was the point?
>>Steve kept thinking they were weeds and pulling them. The murderer..
>>
>>Karen
>
> <snicker> He kept "thinking they were weeds" eh? You didn't notice all
> that Australian and American currency he's been flashing lately then?
>
> Cheryl
There are rumours around Osgoode, that u-no-who got her watermelon patch
well hidden and isn't telling anybody where it is. I've noticed she isn't
leaving the garden the same time as her helpers. She heads into another
section out of bounds to me and all else. (as far as I can tell)
I'll keep you updated.
steve
Jeanie
> There are
> people from all walks of life who have differing opinions on all sorts
> of matters within the group of regulars. We represent a fairly wide
> cross-section of humanity and yet we all manage to get along most of
> the time (yes, we DO sometimes even have arguments amongst ourselves!)
> because we respect each other. We don't care if you're black, white,
> brown or purple; if you're Christian, Muslim, or athiest; if you're
> Canadian, Chinese or Russian; if you're a bricklayer, a CEO of a
> company or unemployed; you could be a double-amputee transvestite
> Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
> become part of this group...as long as you respect others and their
> opinions, can give and take, and can accept the rest of us as human,
> you'll be welcome. Finger-pointing, name-calling and nastiness
> generally begets the same.
>
> Cheryl
>
Jeanie
Derek
Spuddie wrote:
>
<snip>
We don't care if you're black, white,
> brown or purple; if you're Christian, Muslim, or athiest; if you're
> Canadian, Chinese or Russian; if you're a bricklayer, a CEO of a
> company or unemployed; you could be a double-amputee transvestite
> Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
> become part of this group...
...and if you're British..??? <G> if you get this answer correct, I'll
send you some Bisto!
Derek
Nic
"Jeanie" <jea...@taureanmoon.com> wrote in message
news:tVpR8.25550$uH2....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
Nic -a less than a year regular! :))
Flip
>None! I sent the cats in first :-pp
>
>I may be blonde, and a DiP..but i'm not stoopid!
>
>Karen
>
>To reply change shy to ca
Hehehe I agree!
Flip
Fluffs
Well hiya baby-doll..where you been?
Ærchie
wrote:
Hate to say this, Sis, but those pesky lil things climb onto other
things - so I wouldn't stand still, if I were you :)
Ćrchie
Ærchie
wrote:
I don't even have a racket - I dont play tennis either.
Ćrchie - who just knows this will all end in tears
Captain Sensible
I might have guessed, an apology from you is worth about as much as a
promise from Hitler not to invade Czechoslovakia. Still, it looks nice on
my wall (next to where I hang my neon codpiece).
Captain Sensible
Steve L Ferris
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:24:54 -0600, "Marty" <mle...@missionx.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>><marty free zone>
>>>
>>>The scientists who know all about everything tell us that there are
>>>around 3000 s****** per square metre of lawn.
>>>
>>><Marty free zone off>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Twit. You KNOW I never do what I'm told! As least you had the intelligence to
>>use the ******.
>>
>>Marty {who's now wearing shoes on the lawn}
>>
> Hate to say this, Sis, but those pesky lil things climb onto other
> things - so I wouldn't stand still, if I were you :)
>
Canada doesn't have those funnel web and trap door s******s like in Australia.
We don't got those *HUGE* tarantula's either.
We got little squishable ones. No problem at all.
steve
Ericka
>
> <snipped>
> you could be a double-amputee transvestite
> Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
> become part of this group...
>
>
All *right* !! Acceptance at last!! ;-)
Ericka (von Furstenburg-Johnston-Ivanova-ibn Saud, Attorney at Law)
(hoping to qualify as one of Spuddie's "interesting posts".) ;-)
> ~~~There is no defense against adverse fortune which is so
> effectual as an habitual sense of humor.~~~
> (Thomas W. Higginson)
You're telling *me*. ;-))
Katie
<jea...@taureanmoon.com> writes:
And a SITTING OVATION from me as well!
Katie (Haven't even been here a year, and *I* was welcomed with open arms!)
@>-->--->----
"Walk in Love."
Ærchie
Ferris) wrote:
But they are fast lil buggers - all over you like a rash :)
Ærchie
murphy
<east1.m...@attcanada.net> wrote:
> "Spuddie" wrote ..
> >
> > <snipped>
> > you could be a double-amputee transvestite
> > Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
> > become part of this group...
> >
> > Cheryl
> >
>
> All *right* !! Acceptance at last!! ;-)
>
> Ericka (von Furstenburg-Johnston-Ivanova-ibn Saud, Attorney at Law)
> (hoping to qualify as one of Spuddie's "interesting posts".) ;-)
...ROTFL!!!....
i think we need you in here ericka....
murphy
>
>
> > ~~~There is no defense against adverse fortune which is so
> > effectual as an habitual sense of humor.~~~
> > (Thomas W. Higginson)
>
> You're telling *me*. ;-))
..looks like you are not the one who needs telling..:))
Marty
to
>>use the ******.
>>Marty {who's now wearing shoes on the lawn}
>>
>Hate to say this, Sis, but those pesky lil things climb onto other
>things - so I wouldn't stand still, if I were you :)
>
>
You brother you. I have stayed inside all day today because of you and the
threat of climbers. Now aren't you ashamed of yourself?
Marty
Marty
>We don't got those *HUGE* tarantula's either.
>
>We got little squishable ones. No problem at all.
>
>steve
>
We have all those here, of a variety. The big hairy ones are out in the desert.
My dad used to deliver milk on Dugway Proving Grounds over Skull Valley way.
Just out of Johnson's pass there was a long straight stretch to the base gate.
The t*******as used to crawl up on the road at night where the asphalt held the
heat. It was a completely, absolutely frightening thing to drive down out of
the pass and see them all over the road. The milk truck was faster than they
were that early too. Rather like squishing golf balls. Oh dear. Sorry 'bout
that.
Marty
Marty
>>>>
>>
>>This much is true. Ærchie is in the protection racket.
>>Myself -- I'm going broke. Maybe it is time to tell Mom.
>>
>>Marty
>>
>I don't even have a racket - I dont play tennis either.
>
>
Yup. Your's probably.
Marty
Marty
my wall (next to where I hang my neon codpiece).
Captain Sensible
==========
On his neon codfish. Huh? It's NOT a fish?
Marty
Marty
wander on the page?
Marty
Spuddie
from Boise named Derek <de...@kegworth.fslife.co.uk> dusted the crops
with Pepsi, fried a fish fritter and chanted:
If I'm British, I'd better talk to me mum and dad and do an accent
check. <G> You just want slappin' with a trout, don'tcha? Anyway, I
just got some Bisto...ghod knows why, but Gary loves the stuff. <gag
me with a pitchfork!> :)
Cheryl
~~~I don't think jogging is healthy, especially morning jogging.
If morning joggers knew how tempting they looked to morning
motorists, they would stay home and do sit-ups.~~~ (Rita Rudner)
Spuddie
from Boise named "Ericka" <east1.m...@attcanada.net> dusted the
crops with Pepsi, fried a fish fritter and chanted:
>"Spuddie" wrote ..
>>
>> <snipped>
>> you could be a double-amputee transvestite
>> Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
>> become part of this group...
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>
>All *right* !! Acceptance at last!! ;-)
Of course I was thinkin' of you when I wrote it, Ericka. <G>
>Ericka (von Furstenburg-Johnston-Ivanova-ibn Saud, Attorney at Law)
>(hoping to qualify as one of Spuddie's "interesting posts".) ;-)
You betcha...I'm a longtime fan of yours from the limerick place.
Welcome to the *other* nuthouse. :)
>> ~~~There is no defense against adverse fortune which is so
>> effectual as an habitual sense of humor.~~~
>> (Thomas W. Higginson)
>
>You're telling *me*. ;-))
Here's another one...and I ain't just a kiddin' either! :)
Cheryl
~~~If I had no sense of humor, I would long ago have
committed suicide.~~~ (Mahatma Gandhi)
Spuddie
Boise named carl...@aol.comelately (hannah savannah at the pianah)
dusted the crops with Pepsi, fried a fish fritter and chanted:
>>On Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:30:36 +0000 in the land of Nod, a three-toed
>>marmoset
>
>SNAP as the Bwits say
>
>I'm amazed you mentioned these lovely rodentia - some time ago when I was
>whimsically contemplating the prospect of retiring to the country with a young
>lady (well young enough to be in this group anyway) - but meanwhile bemoaning
>our combined lack of the folding green--we DID raise the prospect of breeding
>marmosets in the bathtub
LOLOL! You're kidding, right? Marmosets in the *bathtub*?? Anyway,
it's my daughter who is the marmoset freakazoid...she's had a thing
about 'em since she was just a tot, so marmosets are cool beans at our
house.
>You have brought a romantic tear to my tummy Spuddie buddy
And to think it took a rodent to do it!
>carliebear the erstwhile breeder of rodentia
Ooo'er! Does it hurt?? <G>
Cheryl
~~~Behavioural psychology is the science of pulling habits
out of rats.~~~ (Dr. Douglas Busch)
Annette
Annette
--
"Spuddie" <the...@spuddie.net> wrote in message
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Lori
>
> If you took the trouble to get to know me, I think you would like me.
>
> Captain Sensible
>
Oh Stig, I already like you! In fact, I believe I am developing a bit
of a crush on you. It's that "bad boy" thing.
Of course if everyone else starts finding out you're really a nice
guy, and liking you, I may have to dump you.
Smile :-)
Lori ( But Ærchie is still # 1, in my heart)
Cubby
> "Spuddie" wrote ..
> >
> > <snipped>
> > you could be a double-amputee transvestite
> > Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
> > become part of this group...
>
> All *right* !! Acceptance at last!! ;-)
>
> Ericka (von Furstenburg-Johnston-Ivanova-ibn Saud, Attorney at Law)
> (hoping to qualify as one of Spuddie's "interesting posts".) ;-)
>
Well at least we'll know who to blame if every weirdo in Cyberspace begin
laying siege to this place <g>
--
Cubby...who got in when weirdos were fashionable
"Ducking for apples -- change one letter and it's the story of my life."
*Dorothy Parker.
Cubby
You must be thinking of the neon codplaice - got one meself :)
--
Cubby
"Wit is the epitaph of an emotion"~*Friedrich Nietzsche 1844-1900
Nic
"Annette" <ann...@ctnet.co.za> wrote in message
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> What is a kitchen without Bisto?
> Annette
>
>
Nic - she of the enquiring mind
> --
<snipped>
Captain Sensible
<snip>
>
> Does that make us a clique?? You may think so, but I don't...many
> folks over the years have left, many other new people have come in and
> joined and become active participants and 'regulars' here. Several of
> our current regulars have been around less than a year. There are
> people from all walks of life who have differing opinions on all sorts
> of matters within the group of regulars. We represent a fairly wide
> cross-section of humanity and yet we all manage to get along most of
> the time (yes, we DO sometimes even have arguments amongst ourselves!)
> because we respect each other. We don't care if you're black, white,
> brown or purple; if you're Christian, Muslim, or athiest; if you're
> Canadian, Chinese or Russian; if you're a bricklayer, a CEO of a
> company or unemployed; you could be a double-amputee transvestite
> Jewish mulatto Communist lawyer from Bumfuck, Egypt and you could
> become part of this group...as long as you respect others and their
> opinions, can give and take, and can accept the rest of us as human,
> you'll be welcome. Finger-pointing, name-calling and nastiness
> generally begets the same.
>
> Cheryl
>
It's a nice speech, Spuddie. And if it were true, it would be a great
speech. But we all know that the reality of this group is not so much about
making new friends, but picking on the unsuspecting. I'm not the first to
say it, and I doubt I will be the last. If that leave the hapless punter
like me with nothing else but to have a bit of trollish fun in return, then
so be it.
Captain Serious
Annette
Annette
--
"Nic" <uta...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Annette
the new arrival is socially adult enough to enquire first whose sandcastle
he/she can kick over first:)))
Annette
"Captain Sensible" <cap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Fluffs
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:14:19 GMT, kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) wrote:
>
>>>>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
>>>
>>>Marty - DONT read what follows - I am trying to protect you. Truly.
>>
>>Now who do you think she's gonna believe?
>
>I'm her bruvver wot tries to protect her from things :)
And I'm trying to protect her from her bruvver!
>>And are you one of them 'scientists who know all about everything"?
>>I thought not..and THEY said 'square metre' so I'm safe!!
>>
>>Ha!
>>
>>Karen
>
>Thats fine - I don't insist that you believe me
>
>They didn't believe whats his name either
>
>And yet the Earth still moves
>
>Ærchie
Whats his name was wrong..the Earth never moved..
I was faking!
Fluffs
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:51:50 GMT in the land of Nod, a three-toed
>marmoset resembling kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) having a bad hair day,
>rolled another joint and stated unequivocally:
"Man..that's good sh*t"!
>
>>I didn't plant any WATERMELONS this year..wot was the point?
>>Steve kept thinking they were weeds and pulling them. The murderer..
>>
>>Karen
>
><snicker> He kept "thinking they were weeds" eh? You didn't notice all
>that Australian and American currency he's been flashing lately then?
>
>Cheryl
He'd been bribed!!??
He'd been BRIBED!!!!???
Just wait til I see him next time!!
Fluffs
Ferris) wrote:
>Spuddie (the...@spuddie.net) writes:
>>>I didn't plant any WATERMELONS this year..wot was the point?
>>>Steve kept thinking they were weeds and pulling them. The murderer..
>>>
>>>Karen
>>
>> <snicker> He kept "thinking they were weeds" eh? You didn't notice all
>> that Australian and American currency he's been flashing lately then?
>>
>> Cheryl
>
>
>There are rumours around Osgoode, that u-no-who got her watermelon patch
>well hidden and isn't telling anybody where it is. I've noticed she isn't
>leaving the garden the same time as her helpers. She heads into another
>section out of bounds to me and all else. (as far as I can tell)
>
>I'll keep you updated.
>
>steve
Forget it buster..the gig is up..Spuddie just clued me in about
you and all this foreign money you have!
Karen - who might plant Steve a fiver!
Steve L Ferris
I just saw an empty container that had,*very* recently, held watermelon
juice last night. When told what it had held,,,,,,
"Did you just finish that?" I asked.... getting ready to be miffed.
It's time to get a blender. :>)
steve
Ærchie
wrote:
Nope - but I am hiding my nose :)
yr Bruvver
Ærchie
wrote:
Sounds like the cane toads in northern Australia
Ærchie
Ærchie
wrote:
You mean nasty - - - - - GIRL, you!!!!
Ærchie - who is the older but who has been bullied so much - - - -
Ærchie
wrote:
You said it - rats mice and chicken feet :)
Ærchie
Ærchie
wrote:
uh oh - I feel a limerick coming on <wg>
Young Carlie the breeder of rodents - - - - -
Ærchie - It will not be suitable to post here. :)
Ærchie
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Ærchie
Ærchie
<cap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Spuddie wrote:
<atropos attack>
>
>It's a nice speech, Spuddie. And if it were true, it would be a great
>speech. But we all know that the reality of this group is not so much about
>making new friends, but picking on the unsuspecting. I'm not the first to
>say it, and I doubt I will be the last. If that leave the hapless punter
>like me with nothing else but to have a bit of trollish fun in return, then
>so be it.
>
>Captain Serious
So now Spuddie is a liar.
John, if you care to go back to the beginning of your dis-satisfaction
you will remember that it came about because of a discussion which you
changed from the gerenal to the personal. You then became upset when
the people you attacked as people retaliated. Since then you have
become a total bore with your refusal to accept responsibility for
your actions. When I first saw the "Stig" signature I thought the post
it was under was from a juvenile. I thought exactly the same when I
first saw your Captain Sensible posts.
John, here we try to play the ball and not the man, a rule you appear
to wish to ignore.
So - I am red carding you.
Goodbye.
Ærchie
>On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 01:32:47 +0800, Ærchie <arch...@pphotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 17:14:19 GMT, kfe...@magma.shy (Fluffs) wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Marty - dont read the following!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Read it Marty!! Then tell your mom!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>Marty - DONT read what follows - I am trying to protect you. Truly.
>>>
>>>Now who do you think she's gonna believe?
>>
>>I'm her bruvver wot tries to protect her from things :)
>
>And I'm trying to protect her from her bruvver!
But her bruvver wuvs her
>
>
>>>And are you one of them 'scientists who know all about everything"?
>>>I thought not..and THEY said 'square metre' so I'm safe!!
>>>
>>>Ha!
>>>
>>>Karen
>>
>>Thats fine - I don't insist that you believe me
>>
>>They didn't believe whats his name either
>>
>>And yet the Earth still moves
>>
>>Ærchie
>
>Whats his name was wrong..the Earth never moved..
>I was faking!
>
>Karen
The girl in 3A FAKED it????
Is nothing sacred??
Ærchie
All good sportsmen and gardeners are bribable :)
>Just wait til I see him next time!!
>
>Karen
Ærchie