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IC...@asuacad.bitnet

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Oct 17, 1991, 8:14:07 AM10/17/91
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I really get pissed off every time I see one of Sandy Duncan's commercials
for Wheat Thins--they bug me so much that I usually change the channel
immediately. I wouldn't mind if she was telling us to eat Wheat Thins
because they taste good, but instead the whole focus of the commercial
is to eat Wheat Thins because you can do so feeling "no guilt".
Although I love the taste of Wheat Thins (it is my favorite-tasting
cracker) I never buy it, or any other Nabisco product, because if I did I
would indeed feel guilty. So the Sandy Duncan "no guilt" commercials really
strike a nerve of mine.
I consider America's tobacco companies to be truly evil, responsible for
the deaths of more Americans than communism or organized crime. I do not
wish to put any of my money into the pockets of America's tobacco
companies; I do not want my money used to further their merchandise of
death. RJR/Nabisco is one of the major tobacco companies, and every
purchase of a Nabisco product is profit going to a tobacco company.
(For the same reason I never drink Miller beer, which is owned by Phillip
Morris.)
I am not suggesting that tobacco be outlawed, but I do think that all
tobacco companies should be forced to divest themselves of all non-tobacco
products, so that those of us who do not wish to support those death
merchants will not inadvertently buy a product which puts money in their
pockets.
That is why I find Sandy Duncan's "no guilt" Wheat Thins commercials
so offensive.

Bruce Long
Arizona State University
ic...@asuvm.inre.asu.edu

Geoff Miller

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Oct 17, 1991, 4:50:28 PM10/17/91
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In article <91290.05...@ASUACAD.BITNET> IC...@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:

>I really get pissed off every time I see one of Sandy Duncan's commercials
>for Wheat Thins--they bug me so much that I usually change the channel
>immediately.

I seldom watch TV, as I've said, but one series of commercials I've seen
that really gets under my skin is the one for Jack In the Box with that
geeky Jack Ritter clone. Not only do I dislike that guy intensely for
some reason, but that Jack In the Box jingle really torques my nut. You
know, the one that goes

da da da
da da
da da da
da da da!

My hearing this little tune never fails to produce a blood pressure spike.
Unfortunately, Jack In the Crack has radio commercials, too. Grrr!


> I consider America's tobacco companies to be truly evil, responsible for
>the deaths of more Americans than communism or organized crime. I do not
>wish to put any of my money into the pockets of America's tobacco
>companies; I do not want my money used to further their merchandise of
>death. RJR/Nabisco is one of the major tobacco companies, and every
>purchase of a Nabisco product is profit going to a tobacco company.
>(For the same reason I never drink Miller beer, which is owned by Phillip
>Morris.)

But are these companies organized as single, monolithic entities, or are
they organized into divisions under a single corporate umbrella? And don't
you think these companies keep financial records that are sufficiently
organized for them to be able to tell how much income arrives through their
tobacco vs. their non-tobacco divisions? A purchase of Miller beer isn't a
vote for Phillip Morris, it's a vote for Miller beer. (Which is pigpiss
anyway, so it's largely academic, I suppose.)

Geoff


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Elaine Richards

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Oct 18, 1991, 1:30:17 PM10/18/91
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In article <1991Oct17....@novell.com> jpo...@novell.com (Jack Poller) writes:
>Massive infusion of peer-pressure made IC...@ASUACAD.BITNET (Pathetic Knee
>Jerk Liberal Campus Twit) spout off at the mouth:
>=> I consider America's tobacco companies to be truly evil, responsible for
>=> the deaths of more Americans than communism or organized crime.
[Various fumings and pontification]
>4. Alcohol, especially beer, is responsible for many many deaths of
> Americans. Approximately half of the 45,000 people killed each
> year in automobile accidents are killed as a result of drinking and
> driving.
[Then the expected yawner]
>
>Look you reactionary knee-jerk liberal twit, Its time to start
>thinking. Did it ever occur to you that alcohol is pretty bad. In
>fact, so many people of this country thought that alcohol was more
>viscous than tabaco that they passed a constitutional amendment
>outlawing alcohol.
>
[rant about corporations]
>
>Get a mind, son, and start thinking about the important things in
>life. Sex, Food, and money, and where do I get them.


Peeve: People who cannot type the word liberal without preceding it
with "knee-jerk".

Peeve: People who would not know a liberal if s/he bit him/her in the ass.

Peeve: People who think that if someone has one liberal issue s/he must
have them all.

Peeve: People who get cornered by dimbulbs with the above notion, take
on all issues in sight and become incredible bores at cocktail parties.

Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine. Hie thee to
a museum!

Peeve: Anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about beer.

Peeve: dog farts.

ER

Jack Poller

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Oct 17, 1991, 5:43:46 PM10/17/91
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Massive infusion of peer-pressure made IC...@ASUACAD.BITNET (Pathetic Knee
Jerk Liberal Campus Twit) spout off at the mouth:

=> I consider America's tobacco companies to be truly evil, responsible for
=> the deaths of more Americans than communism or organized crime.

And

=> (For the same reason I never drink Miller beer, which is owned by Phillip
=> Morris.)

When will you college twits ever learn to think on your own, without
having the world spoon fed to you. You are such a fucking hypocrate
my stomach turns at the thought that my tax money is funding your
pathetic education which you are wasting. You are "A prime example for
post-natal abortion" (thanks, Geoff Miller).

Let us try this elementary lesson in logic.

Your Facts:
1. You don't like tobacco companies because they contribute to the
deaths of Americans.
2. You don't like *MILLER* beer because Miller is owned by Phillip
Morris.

#2 Implies #3

3. You do like and drink some beer. Proof: if you did not like beer
at all you would have said so, rather than specifying a particular
brand.

My Facts:


4. Alcohol, especially beer, is responsible for many many deaths of
Americans. Approximately half of the 45,000 people killed each
year in automobile accidents are killed as a result of drinking and
driving.

5. Many many families are hurt by alcohol - death, addiction,
destruction of family, poverty, etc.

#4 & #5 imply #6

6. You don't like alcohol. Proof: Your justification for not liking
Tobacco companies is the same as the facts of #4 and #5.

#6 contradicts #3.

Look you reactionary knee-jerk liberal twit, Its time to start
thinking. Did it ever occur to you that alcohol is pretty bad. In
fact, so many people of this country thought that alcohol was more
viscous than tabaco that they passed a constitutional amendment
outlawing alcohol.

If we use your logic about which companies to boycott, we should add
GM, Ford, Chrysler, Exxon, Gulf, Getty, etc. Since, combined, they
account for automobiles which are involved in 50,000 American deaths
each year. And what about the Federal, State, and Local governments,
since they provide the roads for the automobiles. And the Tire
companies. And the glass companies, etc. etc. etc.

Get a mind, son, and start thinking about the important things in
life. Sex, Food, and money, and where do I get them.

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Mr. Wierdwrench

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Oct 18, 1991, 1:45:29 PM10/18/91
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jpo...@novell.com (Jack Poller) writes:
>Did it ever occur to you that alcohol is pretty bad. In
>fact, so many people of this country thought that alcohol was more
>viscous than tabaco that they passed a constitutional amendment
>outlawing alcohol.

I think if you're referring to viscosity, then "tabaco" must refer
to "Tabasco" sauce. In fact, Alcohol has a much lower specific
gravity than tabasco sauce. As evidenced by the speed with which
it passes through your system. (but that's a close race.)

Try this, drink a beer and a bottle of tabasco. Go into a
bathroom. When you come out again, tell us whether you first
stood or sat down to do what you had to do....

>Get a mind, son, and start thinking about the important things in
>life. Sex, Food, and money, and where do I get them.

Where *you* get them is entirely of no concern to me. Where you
get sex is a question I'd rather not have answered....

JZ
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Stupidity is an Equal Opportunity Affliction."
-Scott Fisher

Geoff Miller

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Oct 18, 1991, 4:06:05 PM10/18/91
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In article <80...@autodesk.COM> boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

>Peeve: People who cannot type the word liberal without preceding it
>with "knee-jerk".

Aw c'mon, booter, I thought it was a marvelous rant!


>Peeve: People who would not know a liberal if s/he bit him/her in the ass.

You had your chance.


>Peeve: People who think that if someone has one liberal issue s/he must
>have them all.

Peeve: People you use the non-word "s/he."


>Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine.

Art who?


>Peeve: Anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about beer.

No disagreement there. Unless the person is referring to Schlitz, that is.


>Peeve: dog farts.

Yeah -- especially the silent-but-oh-so-lethal sleeping doberman silent-but-
deadlies, the ones that smell like burning rubber. Hoo-wee! Mi ojitos!

Elaine Richards

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Oct 18, 1991, 5:07:30 PM10/18/91
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In article <63...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geo...@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>
>In article <80...@autodesk.COM> boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>
>>Peeve: People who would not know a liberal if s/he bit him/her in the ass.
>
>You had your chance.


I don't need to bite you in the ass because you already know I am a liberal.
I refuse to get a mouth full of denim and wallet if I don't need to. For
one, its a pain picking the quarters out of my teeth. For another, even
if I did decide to bite you in the back pocket, its impossible to do so
electronically.

ER

Eric Minch

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Oct 18, 1991, 7:28:11 PM10/18/91
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In article <63...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geo...@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
(Geoff Miller) writes:
> In article <80...@autodesk.COM> boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
writes:
> >Peeve: Anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about beer.
>
> No disagreement there. Unless the person is referring to Schlitz,
that is.

The "beer" that made Milwaukee flatulent. Sing along now:
In Milwaukee there is no beer,
That's why we drink it here....
(And thank heaven for microbreweries)

Peeve: Narragansset!

--Eric

Laurence Doering

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Oct 19, 1991, 4:00:33 AM10/19/91
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In article <1991Oct17....@novell.com> jpo...@novell.com (Jack Poller) writes:
>
>Look you reactionary knee-jerk liberal twit, Its time to start
>thinking. Did it ever occur to you that alcohol is pretty bad. In
>fact, so many people of this country thought that alcohol was more
>viscous than tabaco that they passed a constitutional amendment
>outlawing alcohol.

Yeah, well, ya know what pisses me off? People *still* think that
"alcohol is more viscous than tabaco [sic]"! Every time I go through the
checkout line at Kroger's with a six-pack of beer and a carton of
cigarettes, the brain-dead checker tries to double-bag the cigarettes
so they won't splash all over the rest of my groceries! Goddamn, I hate
that. I've tried telling the checkers that cigarette tobacco is actually
little shreds of *solid* stuff, and if it was less viscous than alcohol
it would be EXTREMELY HARD to light a cigarette without it dribbling all
over the place, but they just snap their gum and say, "Company policy, sir."

Ferchrissake, if tobacco was LESS VISCOUS than alcohol, R. J. Reynolds
wouldn't make cigarettes out of PAPER, would they? WAKE UP AND GET A
FUCKING CLUE, AMERICA!

John L. Wilkerson Jr.

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Oct 20, 1991, 1:48:48 PM10/20/91
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ldoe...@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering) writes:

>
> Yeah, well, ya know what pisses me off? People *still* think that
> "alcohol is more viscous than tabaco [sic]"! Every time I go through the
> checkout line at Kroger's with a six-pack of beer and a carton of
> cigarettes, the brain-dead checker tries to double-bag the cigarettes
> so they won't splash all over the rest of my groceries! Goddamn, I hate
> that. I've tried telling the checkers that cigarette tobacco is actually
> little shreds of *solid* stuff, and if it was less viscous than alcohol
> it would be EXTREMELY HARD to light a cigarette without it dribbling all
> over the place, but they just snap their gum and say, "Company policy, sir."
>

Company policy, eh? Well, shit. I work for Kroger, and have
NEVER heard of /that/ policy. Admittedly, K-roger has some rather
stupid-assed policies, but never that one. Double-bagging is done at
customer request ONLY, at least in the Columbus Marketing area (Ohio).

I guess, those people there are typical of the low-quality
shitheads that company is hiring nowadays.

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Chris Baldwin

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Oct 21, 1991, 4:03:34 AM10/21/91
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In article <91290.05...@ASUACAD.BITNET> IC...@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>I really get pissed off every time I see one of Sandy Duncan's commercials
>for Wheat Thins--they bug me so much that I usually change the channel
>immediately. I wouldn't mind if she was telling us to eat Wheat Thins
>because they taste good, but instead the whole focus of the commercial
>is to eat Wheat Thins because you can do so feeling "no guilt".

I really hate the these commercials, as well. The thing that I
really hate about them is the line "they're[wheat thins] baked,
not fried." Now, out of my, attmitently small sample of about 10
people, I can find no one who ever thought that they were fried. I
don't eat a lot of wheat thins, since I really don't like them, but
it never even occurred to me that they might be fried.
What's worse, though, is that I hate this commercial so much,
that I am compelled to watch it whenever it comes on. I've noticed
this about the commercials that I hat ethe most. The most obnoxious
commercial that I have ever seen is a local commercial for a stupid
waterpark. I think that its called the Beach, or something like that.
The guy in the commercial talks like a bad Bill & Ted impression,
but manages to make it seem even more stupid than it already is. I
find that I absolutely must watch this one when it is on.

TTFN
chris

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paul.d.finkel

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Oct 21, 1991, 10:09:34 AM10/21/91
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In article <80...@autodesk.COM> boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

Art, schmart! What about cars or anything with a powerful motor
that goes fast: motorcycles, speedboats and planes!
Add to the list music, in particular rock and roll.
Okay so what is the order of importance?

1) Sex
2) Money
3) Cars
4) Food
5) rock and roll (and the attendant life style)
6) having a family ( Number 1 IS important, but something should
come of all that activity!
7) Art Carney/Linkletter/Model)

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Geoff Miller

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In article <2BN50...@bluemoon.rn.com> jo...@bluemoon.rn.com

(John L. Wilkerson Jr.) writes:

> Company policy, eh? Well, shit. I work for Kroger, and have
>NEVER heard of /that/ policy. Admittedly, K-roger has some rather
>stupid-assed policies, but never that one. Double-bagging is done at
>customer request ONLY, at least in the Columbus Marketing area (Ohio).

My store has recently added a new twist to the grocery bagging adventure.
Nowadays, instead of asking "Paper or plastic?," the baggers have been
instructed to ask, "Is plastic okay?" Apparently the difference in cost
between paper and plastic bags is more significant than I thought, and
enough people ask for paper bags that the chain (Lucky) wants to turn things
around. And of course, they also offer those reusable canvas bags to assuage
the bunny huggers and guilty liberals, but I almost never see anyone using
them. (After all, I don't live in Berkeley or Palo Alto.)

Geoff


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Mr. Wierdwrench

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Oct 21, 1991, 1:18:53 PM10/21/91
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(Geoffro-Amurrikan) writes:
>
>
>>Peeve: Anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about beer.
>
>No disagreement there. Unless the person is referring to Schlitz, that is.
>

She said BEER, thimbledick.

JZ
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Paul Crowley writes:

You forgot drugs!

No, no, no, no, no --- you forgot GUNS!


1) Guns
2) Cars
3) Money
4) Food
5) Damn-good-quotes

I think I forgot something, but it can't be that important.

-Dave

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In article <1991Oct21.1...@cbfsb.att.com> pfi...@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (paul.d.finkel) writes:
>In article <80...@autodesk.COM> boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>>
>>Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine. Hie thee to
>>a museum!
>
>1) Sex
>2) Money
>3) Cars
>4) Food
>5) rock and roll (and the attendant life style)
>6) having a family ( Number 1 IS important, but something should
> come of all that activity!
>7) Art Carney/Linkletter/Model)

You forgot drugs!
In this order.
GOOD things:
1) Sex
2) Drugs.
3) Rock and roll
Fairly good things:
4) Other sorts of art
5) Food
6) Cars

Not good things:
-1) Families
(minus one? Well, think about the way 1/x behaves....)
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Ivelisse Atiles

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Oct 21, 1991, 7:19:10 PM10/21/91
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In <13...@castle.ed.ac.uk> ai...@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:

>In article <1991Oct21.1...@cbfsb.att.com> pfi...@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (paul.d.finkel) writes:
>>In article <80...@autodesk.COM> boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>>>
>>>Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine. Hie thee to
>>>a museum!
>>
>>1) Sex
>>2) Money
>>3) Cars
>>4) Food
>>5) rock and roll (and the attendant life style)
>>6) having a family ( Number 1 IS important, but something should
>> come of all that activity!
>>7) Art Carney/Linkletter/Model)

>You forgot drugs!
>In this order.

He forgot chocolate.
I know you said food, but chocolate is not *merely* food.
It is a Godly thing.
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Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack.

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Oct 21, 1991, 8:46:14 PM10/21/91
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geo...@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:


>>Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine.

>Art who?


She must be talking about Art Linkletter.
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Oct 22, 1991, 2:15:49 AM10/22/91
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booter writes:
> Jack Poller pontificates:
> >Pathetic Knee Jerk Liberal Campus Twit spouts
> >=> [spout, spout, spout, wheeze, moan, spout, spout, spout, whine, etc]

>
> Peeve: People who would not know a liberal if s/he bit him/her in the ass.

For this type of Peeve, shouldn't it be:

Peeve: People who would not know a liberal if sie bit hir in the ass.

Oh sorry.... this belongs in alt.sex.bondage.liberals ;-)


>
> Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine. Hie thee to
> a museum!

Good sex is Art.


>
> Peeve: Anyone who has ANYTHING bad to say about beer.

Bravo!

Al
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Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack.

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Oct 22, 1991, 11:48:29 PM10/22/91
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boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

>Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine. Hie thee to
>a museum!

"Philistines" are people who don't appreciate poetry. Et tu, Boot?

"I've seen the best minds of my generation..."

John L. Wilkerson Jr.

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Oct 22, 1991, 3:22:27 PM10/22/91
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geo...@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

>
> My store has recently added a new twist to the grocery bagging adventure.
> Nowadays, instead of asking "Paper or plastic?," the baggers have been
> instructed to ask, "Is plastic okay?" Apparently the difference in cost
> between paper and plastic bags is more significant than I thought, and
> enough people ask for paper bags that the chain (Lucky) wants to turn things
> around. And of course, they also offer those reusable canvas bags to assuage
> the bunny huggers and guilty liberals, but I almost never see anyone using
> them. (After all, I don't live in Berkeley or Palo Alto.)
>
>

We are still at the "paper or plastic" stage. Origionally, we were
to use plastic, unless otherwise told to use paper by customers. The
canvas "bags" program lasted all of 3 months, then they stopped carrying
them. We still see some people use 'em, but not too often.
Recycling is a big thing now. We have a drum in which customers may
put their used bags. Of course, some ignorant employees take the liner
out of the drum and throw it and all the to-be-recycled bags into the
dumpster, instead of the salvage trailer.

Elaine Richards

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Oct 23, 1991, 2:21:03 PM10/23/91
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In article <46...@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> ba...@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack.) writes:
>boo...@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>
>>Peeve: Sex, Food and Money? You forgot ART, you philistine. Hie thee to
>>a museum!
>
>"Philistines" are people who don't appreciate poetry. Et tu, Boot?


Philistines were ancient Palestinians. I would not expect you to know
that because a Bible would probably burn your hands.

The modern definition from my Webster's gives the definition,
"...A smug, materialistic person, esp. one who is indifferent to
artistic, cultural, or intellectual values."

ER

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