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SafeEarthSafeChild

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Aug 14, 2007, 1:46:52 AM8/14/07
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Our Connor has just recently hit the terrible twos, but he will be 3 on the
27th. He is a good little boy, but always very curious.

He has started to become beligerant. Examples:
Not stopping when someone tells him to (running away)
Not coming back when someone asks him to
Sassing, when he does say thank you sometimes it is not in the best tone of
voice
Hitting things (the cat, although I must admit she is a prickly thing and
she is not as innocent as she lets on)

Any ideas?


Scorpio

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Aug 17, 2007, 6:42:33 AM8/17/07
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On Aug 14, 5:46 pm, "SafeEarthSafeChild"

What ARE you on about???? Sounds like a normal over-indulged child
to me....


glo...

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Aug 20, 2007, 1:42:16 PM8/20/07
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I know it's not "politically correct" these days, but have you tried a swat
on his bottom?

I think the biggest reason this country is going to "hell in a hand basket"
is because kids have no fear of an old fashioned spanking anymore. They know
that if you spank them they can run to the authorities and complain and
you'll get into trouble for child abuse! A simple spanking is not child
abuse. It's parental control!! I don't need a villiage to raise my kids, I
spank! And they listen! And they have respect for MY authority!!

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glo...
www.thomasfamilytree.com


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R. Steve Walz

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Aug 20, 2007, 4:03:42 PM8/20/07
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glo... wrote:
>
> I know it's not "politically correct" these days, but have you tried a swat
> on his bottom?
>
> I think the biggest reason this country is going to "hell in a hand basket"
> is because kids have no fear of an old fashioned spanking anymore.
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That's because you were a battered child who is jealous of other kids
who weren't beaten and so you want them to be beaten so you don't feel
like such a stupid little shit as to put up with such mistreatment.


> They know
> that if you spank them they can run to the authorities and complain and
> you'll get into trouble for child abuse!

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And rightly they should, you SHOULD get the shit kicked out of you
for stupid behavior like that, because you don't realize that
it is caused by your sickness that resulted from your abuse.


> A simple spanking is not child
> abuse. It's parental control!!

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Nope, it's child abuse. We need to come to your house and beat the
shit out of you when you act up like this! Would you respect us if
we came over and beat you when you were bad?


> I don't need a villiage to raise my kids, I
> spank! And they listen! And they have respect for MY authority!!

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That's your sick little delusion. Actually they hate your guts, have
NO respect for what you think about anything, and will escape from
your clutches, do everything you told them not to, and never show
up for a family event after they are adults unless you all get into
a fight and they leave and never bring your grandchildren to see you
anymore.

You see, you don't respect people who beat you, AND NEITHER WILL THEY!
Steve

Zareth

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Aug 20, 2007, 11:15:47 PM8/20/07
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>> I don't need a villiage to raise my kids, I
>> spank! And they listen! And they have respect for MY authority!!
> ----------------------
> That's your sick little delusion. Actually they hate your guts, have
> NO respect for what you think about anything, and will escape from
> your clutches, do everything you told them not to, and never show
> up for a family event after they are adults unless you all get into
> a fight and they leave and never bring your grandchildren to see you
> anymore.
>
Steve you are a fucking moron.


glo...

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Aug 21, 2007, 9:42:58 PM8/21/07
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No, I was not beaten as a child but I did get a spanking when I needed it
and I love and respect my parents. My kids are all grown with kids of their
own. And a day goes by when one or more of them isn't here visiting (with
the grandchildren)! They are always here! They all live within a few blocks
of my home. When I talked about moving out of state last year they ganged up
on me to convince me to stay here, near them. You have no idea what you are
talking about!

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glo...
www.thomasfamilytree.com


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Frank t2

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Aug 22, 2007, 2:39:37 AM8/22/07
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how quaint ... "Nope, it's child abuse. " ...


"glo..." <g...@g.com> a écrit ...

glo...

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Aug 22, 2007, 4:43:48 PM8/22/07
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I can see we will never agree that a swat on the butt is not child abuse
so....I'm done with this conversation. Have a good life.

--

glo...
www.thomasfamilytree.com


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Frank t2

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Aug 22, 2007, 5:42:35 PM8/22/07
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Oh, no .. *I* agree ... it's "someone else" that doesn't ...
If you're adamant about leaving; can I come with you ? ;)))))

R. Steve Walz

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Aug 22, 2007, 10:30:19 PM8/22/07
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Name-calling without reasoned argument
just means that you ran out of the latter.
Steve

R. Steve Walz

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Aug 22, 2007, 10:31:43 PM8/22/07
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glo... wrote:
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> No, I was not beaten as a child but I did get a spanking when I needed it
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Then you WERE beaten.


> and I love and respect my parents.

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That's HOW they make you do that!
Steve

*

R. Steve Walz

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Aug 22, 2007, 10:32:34 PM8/22/07
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glo... wrote:
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> I can see we will never agree that a swat on the butt is not child abuse
> so....I'm done with this conversation. Have a good life.
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Go ask a psychologist.
Steve

glmccl...@cox.net

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Aug 26, 2007, 12:15:41 AM8/26/07
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On Aug 14, 12:46 am, "SafeEarthSafeChild"

Darlene

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Aug 30, 2007, 6:43:05 PM8/30/07
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There are to many psychologist and people who think like Steve. That
is the reason we have so many young people in trouble today. A little
old fashioned swat on the butt never hurt anyone!

Frank t2

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Aug 30, 2007, 6:55:48 PM8/30/07
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Sadly, there are many amateur psychologists like Steve hat have no
answer on how to control some of hte more unrly children without
a calming butt slap or two.
Fortunately, I don't live anywhere near Steve ...


"Darlene" <blueb...@heartland.net> a écrit ...

R. Steve Walz

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Aug 30, 2007, 7:08:43 PM8/30/07
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Darlene wrote:
>
> On Aug 22, 9:32 pm, "R. Steve Walz" <rste...@armory.com> wrote:
> > glo... wrote:
> >
> > > I can see we will never agree that a swat on the butt is not child abuse
> > > so....I'm done with this conversation. Have a good life.
> >
> > -----------------
> > Go ask a psychologist.
> > Steve
>
> There are to many psychologist and people who think like Steve.
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You mean MOST of everybody! Ya know, there's a reason for that!!!

You're a right-wing paranoid.


> That
> is the reason we have so many young people in trouble today. A little
> old fashioned swat on the butt never hurt anyone!

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That is what has CAUSED them to be in suxh trouble.

Old fashioned is what caused the 19th century to have 15 TIMES the
murder rate we have today!
Steve

R. Steve Walz

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Aug 30, 2007, 7:12:29 PM8/30/07
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Frank t2 wrote:
>
> Sadly, there are many amateur psychologists like Steve hat have no
> answer on how to control some of hte more unrly children without
> a calming butt slap or two.
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"Calming"??? Your sick delusion.


> Fortunately, I don't live anywhere near Steve ...

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You were beaten, and so you feel that you just HAVE to beat somebody,
or else you won't have "graduated" to adulthood. To you, adults are
people who get to hit children. You feel like it was PROMISED to
you back when YOU were beaten. That's sick.

Children who are hit become cruel themselves.

You don't even grasp the depth of your sickness.

It's all you've ever known, so you think it's NORMAL! It's NOT!
Steve

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R. Steve Walz

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Sep 14, 2007, 9:40:50 PM9/14/07
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glo... wrote:
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> No, I was not beaten as a child but I did get a spanking when I needed it
> and I love and respect my parents.
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No, you FEAR your parents and secretly hate them, and you CALL it
"love and respect".


> My kids are all grown with kids of their
> own. And a day goes by when one or more of them isn't here visiting (with
> the grandchildren)! They are always here! They all live within a few blocks
> of my home. When I talked about moving out of state last year they ganged up
> on me to convince me to stay here, near them. You have no idea what you are
> talking about!

> glo...
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It doesn't matter what you CLAIM, people you beat on hate you, however
secretly! Your lies and rationalizations simply don't withstand that!
Either you didn't beat on them, or you're lying.
Steve

Jim Chandler

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Nov 14, 2007, 2:07:13 PM11/14/07
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How about James Dobson?

Jim

Jim Chandler

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Nov 14, 2007, 2:08:40 PM11/14/07
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The only aggression I see here is you Steve.

Jim

Jim Chandler

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Nov 14, 2007, 2:10:02 PM11/14/07
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I'm still waiting on your "reasoned argument."

Jim

R. Steve Walz

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Nov 16, 2007, 2:34:33 PM11/16/07
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Jim Chandler wrote:
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> How about James Dobson?
>
> Jim
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Go ask a REAL psychologist, instead of one that most psychologists
disrespect.
Steve

R. Steve Walz

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Nov 16, 2007, 2:55:02 PM11/16/07
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Jim Chandler wrote:
>
> The only aggression I see here is you Steve.
> Jim
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Verbal aggresion in defense of children's rights.
You're invited to make the distinction.
Steve

R. Steve Walz

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Nov 16, 2007, 3:07:05 PM11/16/07
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Jim Chandler wrote:
>
> I'm still waiting on your "reasoned argument."
> Jim
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People who are abused for what they think or want or do that is
within their actual human right, respond in a uniform manner,
no matter their age.

They develop revenge formation and hatred of the agent of
that abuse, no matter what they may call it, and this causes
them to turn away from their future and their desires for
their life, and turn to the agent of that abuse with hatred
and the desire for revenge.

People are NOT like cattle, who can be pushed and struck to
cause them to move in the dssired direction. Humans have
self-respect, which causes them to hate their abuser and to
seek redress by confronting and becoming oppositional to
them, abandoning their plans for their future and devoting
themselves to revenge against them.

Every child knows and feels this, and it robs them of their
childhood and of their future. Anyone who abuses a child by
pissing them off in that manner has stolen their childhood,
and as Jesus said, should haved a millstone tied about their
neck and be thrown into the sea.

THAT is the reason and logic about children that NO one can
deny. You treat them differently than your adult friends at
your peril, in the same way you have to treat your adult
friends with respect in order to even HAVE any!!

If you dishonor your children by this disrespect and this
abuse, and you ruin any chance you have to benefit them,
because they will never again ever value you or your advice,
and you will never have their ear or their honesty EVER again!
Steve

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