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maggie_...@yahoo.com

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May 22, 2006, 12:10:14 AM5/22/06
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is it a good idea for children to be raised by
felons.................weeeeeeeeeeell, now, that depends on the sex of
the felon and the part of the country................several
northeastern states think that it is a good idea for felon moms to keep
their children while some southern and mountain states have
reservations about the idea..............to quote from an associated
press story on the subject, "the women's prison association and
like-minded groups focus attention on female inmates in part because
they [women] are more likely than men to be primary caretakers of
children, and their incarceration can place severe strains on
families"...............it doesn't matter that the incarceration of
women for the past 30 years is linked to felonious drug use, such as
methamphetamine sale and possession, the "like-minded groups" want
these felons raising children.............oooooooooooooh, there's more
good news...................the "like-minded groups" want to spend even
more tax money to keep these felons out of prison and with their
children................will the cps feminist-dominated cps bureaucracy
object to giving children to these felons...............it's not
likely................

Dragon's Girl

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May 22, 2006, 1:41:07 AM5/22/06
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But....
I thought that DFS was out hunting down kids to take for no reason.
Seems like that's a whole slew of them right there.
Drug felon moms? Isn't that like the DFS gold mine of all gold mines?

Dip.


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Greegor

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May 23, 2006, 8:32:47 PM5/23/06
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Did you think DHS wouldn't get FUNDING for
keeping these women and their kids together?

Meth head Moms are a huge profit center for DHS here in Iowa!
It's a huge "feel good" PR thing in the newspapers.

Just ask how the "Iowa Medicaid Enterprise" is funded!

It all about FUNDING!

When Kevin William Concannon (DOB 12/17/1940) was hired
by our illustrious governor, the gov's press release bragged
that Concannon would bring our state more federal dollars.
That was the sum and total of the press release!

Nothing about quality of services!
Nothing about performance!

It REALLY IS all about MONEY!

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May 23, 2006, 9:30:20 PM5/23/06
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Greegor wrote:
> Did you think DHS wouldn't get FUNDING for
> keeping these women and their kids together?

Is it failing then?

> Meth head Moms are a huge profit center for DHS here in Iowa!
> It's a huge "feel good" PR thing in the newspapers.

Is it failing? Please show proof.

> Just ask how the "Iowa Medicaid Enterprise" is funded!
>
> It all about FUNDING!

Is it failing?

If you wish moms and children to stay together, just how would you
proceed without funding?


>
> When Kevin William Concannon (DOB 12/17/1940) was hired
> by our illustrious governor, the gov's press release bragged
> that Concannon would bring our state more federal dollars.
> That was the sum and total of the press release!

Please provide a full citation to this claim. I've asked before and you
have never responded. I believe that there was more to the Governor's
press release. But we'll see when you get honest and post it here in full.

> Nothing about quality of services!
> Nothing about performance!

Every reference I can find includes exactly what you say there is
nothing about.

http://tinyurl.com/l5enn

Odd that you haven't seen these, but have, somewhere, a contextually
limited document you keep quoting but not providing.

And odder still that despite it being true (very doubtful) here is ALL
THESE OTHER THINGS SAID ABOUT CONCANNON IN REFERENCE TO PRECISELY WHAT
YOU SAY HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

> It REALLY IS all about MONEY!

No, it really isn't all about money. It's about society demanding that
children at risk of injury, or injured, have some protection, and that
this society help them become better citizens than their parents,
obviously, producing.

http://tinyurl.com/l5enn

Are you really too stupid to use google quickly (that took me about 10
second total) when making your wild ludicrous claims, to see if there is
some support at all for them?

Man you are stupid.

Don said to tell you hello. I wrote him. He's laughing his ass off.

But he's also now paying much more attention to you, and your cronies.

Thank me for that.

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to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

Greegor

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May 24, 2006, 1:54:22 AM5/24/06
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Is it failing? Who are you asking?

maggie_...@yahoo.com

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May 29, 2006, 2:52:31 AM5/29/06
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weeeeeeeeell, now, isn't that interesting...........why do you suppose
cps had to rethink its position on removal...........could it be the
whole idiotic notion of taking children away from parents on a whim has
lost public and political support such that allowing female felons to
keep children is as much economic necessity as new political
reality...............

dragon girl thinks she found a contradiction in my
reasoning...............

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May 29, 2006, 12:05:46 PM5/29/06
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Reasoning?

Greegor

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May 30, 2006, 1:10:09 AM5/30/06
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From: Greegor Date: Tues, May 23 2006 7:32 pm

Did you think DHS wouldn't get FUNDING for
keeping these women and their kids together?

Meth head Moms are a huge profit center for DHS here in Iowa!


It's a huge "feel good" PR thing in the newspapers.

Just ask how the "Iowa Medicaid Enterprise" is funded!

It all about FUNDING!

When Kevin William Concannon (DOB 12/17/1940) was hired


by our illustrious governor, the gov's press release bragged
that Concannon would bring our state more federal dollars.
That was the sum and total of the press release!

Nothing about quality of services!
Nothing about performance!

It REALLY IS all about MONEY!

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May 30, 2006, 1:20:16 AM5/30/06
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Well now, you got a little problem here, Greg. Last time you posted this
I responded with a page or three of google hits that showed conclusively
that the Governor did in fact mention quality and performance.

You just wanted to stop the clock at his single press release.

Are you allowed to do that in Iowa and then slander the person making
the press release, and those he discussed?

Fancy that.

I'll have to sell my property there and get out.

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May 30, 2006, 1:43:18 AM5/30/06
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Greegor wrote:
> From: Greegor Date: Tues, May 23 2006 7:32 pm
>
> Did you think DHS wouldn't get FUNDING for
> keeping these women and their kids together?
>
> Meth head Moms are a huge profit center for DHS here in Iowa!

I let this pass before, thinking you beyond redemption, and willing to
ignore a request about it, but hell, I never give up on reforming folks
like you.

So tell us, just how much profit is being made, by who? And how? With
citations of supporting data reports...budgets, etc. You know the kind
of things that would give your claim credibility?

> It's a huge "feel good" PR thing in the newspapers.

Let me see now. Mom gets services. Mom gets to keep her kids with her.
Mom kicks meth. Kids grow up safer and still with their mom, even if her
name is Lisa.

Yes, you are right. That most definitely makes me feel good, very good.
Worth every dime of whatever federal tax dollars (mine of course) are used.

Thanks gov. Thanks Kevin. And Greg, thank you for making me feel so good.

> Just ask how the "Iowa Medicaid Enterprise" is funded!

Okay, how is it funded?

> It all about FUNDING!

Last I heard you can't run a program with any success without funding.
Was I wrong?

> When Kevin William Concannon (DOB 12/17/1940) was hired
> by our illustrious governor, the gov's press release bragged
> that Concannon would bring our state more federal dollars.
> That was the sum and total of the press release!

One press release, that YOU WON'T PROVIDE?

The gov said nothing else on other occasions about the hiring of
Concannon? Odd, I remember posting many things he said about Concannon
that had to do with quality and performance.

Possibly he didn't discuss the importance of Concannon to the next
planned moon landing. Should we gig him for that?


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> Nothing about quality of services!
> Nothing about performance!
>
> It REALLY IS all about MONEY!

It really is a great deal about money, simply because, now read
carefully as I'm about to reveal a great mystery, THINGS COST MONEY.

Now, you can go out and make some yourself. Just find a way to fast pick
those bottles and cans. There's some fruit picking equipment that might
come in handy and speed up things for you.

Growing up a ranch and farm kid I know about them.

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maggie_...@yahoo.com

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May 31, 2006, 12:37:45 AM5/31/06
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weeeeeeeeell, no, I don't really think you have any................now,
bitch, where's your proof that i was, am, or ever will be observer, on
anyone else for that matter...............how about your proof that i
am male................

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