Only if it's done incorrectly. Even an idiot can use mace safely.
Gen. JC Christian
General of the Militias
CINCMIL
Persicos odi, puer, apparatus!
http://extra.newsguy.com/~satire/militia.htm
Well the paddle is affective in most cases
I believe in spanking with the hand 5- 10 times usually over the knee and fully
clothed. Spanking should stop at age 10.
Please take your spanking fantasies back to the appropriate newsgroup.
This is a newsgroup for individuals wishing to discuss the disciplinary
act of spanking real-life children, and alternative parenting strategies
which do not involve hitting and hurting children.
Sexual spanking fantasies have no place on this newsgroup.
LaVonne
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Why on earth do you think this person is having sexual fantasies?
It seems very judgmental of you to assume that someone is thinking of spanking
in a sexual context when they are asking for reasonable specifics about the
application of corporal punishment.
I don't see that they have recently posted on alt.sex.spanking or other
similar group, and even if they had that is no reason to suspect their
intentions in this forum.
If you view spanking as a sexual act maybe that explains your vehement concern
on the topic. Maybe you should turn to alt.abuse.recovery or some other forum
to straighten out your misplaced connection betwixt parental spanking and
sexual perversion.
-D
Darcee, I suggest you read through icicold's 23 posts on
soc.sexuality.spanking. While I have no problem with actions between
consenting adults, a poster with such inclinations who then requests
descriptions of spanking acts with children on this newsgroup is highly
suspect. This is a newsgroup for discussing the disciplinary act of spanking
children, and alternatives to such actions. It is not a newsgroup for sexual
fantasies.
LaVonne
I'm trying very hard *not* to turn this ng into something perverted. If
you pull up icicold's author profile, you may understand why I responded
as I did. This is not a newsgroup for discussing sexual spanking
fantasies, but a newsgroup for discussing the disciplinary act of
spanking children, and alternatives to this disciplinary action.
If anything offensive was said in his post then I would agree he should take
it elsewhere, but no one has the right to say that someone else can not post
here because of where they have posted in the past. What they do with the
answers they receive here is no matter to the group as a whole as long as
their posts on this group are clean and inoffensive.
I am offended that you are looking up other's posting histories in order to
see if they pass _your_ purity test. Then asking them to leave because you
find them unacceptable. Why does someone having a spanking fetish threaten
you so? What do you care if they post other places, or what they post there?
Darcee
> > > > How do you spank? or how do you think children should be spanked? i.e
> > Clothing,
> > > > position, number of swats and duration- please give me your opinions.
> > > >
> > > > I believe in spanking with the hand 5- 10 times usually over the knee
and
> > fully
> > > > clothed. Spanking should stop at age 10.
> > >>
> > > Sexual spanking fantasies have no place on this newsgroup.
> > >
> > > LaVonne
> >
> > Why on earth do you think this person is having sexual fantasies?
> >
> > I don't see that they have recently posted on alt.sex.spanking or other
> > similar group, and even if they had that is no reason to suspect their
> > intentions in this forum.
>
> Darcee, I suggest you read through icicold's 23 posts on
> soc.sexuality.spanking. While I have no problem with actions between
> consenting adults, a poster with such inclinations who then requests
> descriptions of spanking acts with children on this newsgroup is highly
> suspect. This is a newsgroup for discussing the disciplinary act of
spanking
> children, and alternatives to such actions. It is not a newsgroup for
sexual
> fantasies.
LaVonne, you forgot to mention that this was YOUR opinion.
Now, I know you'll find this hard to believ, but I AGREE with your statement
which says
:> This is a newsgroup for discussing the disciplinary act of spanking
I appreciate you input into this group and your response
.>Questions regarding the application of corporal punishment is not out
>of place here.
I agree with you.
> You are censuring his opinions and questions because of posts on
>a different site. Who gave you this responsibility?
I again agree.
LaVonne suggests the reader look at icicold's news past. Obviously I don't
disagree with this as it might give a suggestion to where the writer is coming
from.
The question that comes to my mind then is: Is it possible that a real parent
who has a spanking fetish is also struggling with the use of spanking within
carefully controlled guidelines with their children and wondering if they are
crossing the line between the two? Further, if that is the case, maybe they
are seeking guidance to avoid this from this newsgroup and therefore, a post
such as icicolds does belong here for discussion.
Just food for thought.
I prefer to believe that the paddle can be effective when needed to affect a
change.
I was spanked once in high school. The school used a leather strap to
administer corporal punishment. It made me angry and resentful and did
nothing in and of itself to change my behavior.
I didn't repeat the offense because of the embarrassment of getting
caught and because I knew the act was wrong; not because of the
spanking.
> The question that comes to my mind then is: Is it possible that a real
parent
> who has a spanking fetish is also struggling with the use of spanking within
> carefully controlled guidelines with their children and wondering if they
are
> crossing the line between the two? Further, if that is the case, maybe they
> are seeking guidance to avoid this from this newsgroup and therefore, a post
> such as icicolds does belong here for discussion.
>
> Just food for thought.
>
And interesting food too.
It hadn't actually occurred to me that way. I was just annoyed that anyone
would start trying to dictate who could or could not post to an open forum.
(content being within the scope of the group).
But I would think that a person who looking to decide where the line between
their own sexual practices and their discipline techniques lays would find
this discussion helpful.
I would also hate to see people afraid to post because of other groups they
are involved in. You can use the author's profile to find out a great deal
about people. I don't think it would be right to pull information off of
other news groups to use in debate here unless it was on the topic. And even
then I would consider it not fighting fairly.
-Darcee
: I was spanked once in high school. The school used a leather strap to
: administer corporal punishment. It made me angry and resentful and did
: nothing in and of itself to change my behavior.
I was physically punished once in high school also. It certainly
didn't make me "respect" that fat slob of a shop teacher who hit me. All
I ever felt for the man was contempt.
Chris