Re: Odorous foreskins!!!
darr...@aol.com
> Nothing arouses the ire of the foreskin fiends more than the issue of
> foreskin odor. This one really hits them where it hurts.
>
> One of our anti circ contributors here, who has never experienced
> another mans foreskin, takes issue with the fact that they are often
> smelly, despite their owners best attempts to keep them clean. So I
> thought I would google the issue, and what a surfeit of riches I found!
>
> Here are a few search terms with the number of hits:
>
> Foreskin odor...........62,200
> Foreskin stink..........32,200
> Foreskin smell........217,000
> Foreskin stench.......18,500
> Revolting foreskin.....13,900
> Stinking foreskin......15,600
> Rancid foreskin........23,800
> Disgusting foreskin...58,500
LOL! A virtual menu of stink! eh It boggles the mind that the solution
is right under their flaring nostrils! eh -D, NYC "If all 2,000,000
boys born in the US annually were circumcised, the following would be
prevented during their lifetimes: 7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of
syphilis, 20,000 cases of pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent
bacterema, 1,500 cases of hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal
disease, 2,000 cases of penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and
250,000-500,000 cases of balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+
years of unbias research on the benefits of circumcision.."Can I just
talk about one other issue I had? I'm almost hesitant to say
this...because I'm not gay...I'm not looking at other guys...but the
whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups...It's
just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" ehe - BABA
BOOEY (aka Boy Gary Dell'Abate, I-talian, producer - Howard Stern
(sweet circumcised Jew) show, commenting on having seen a recent porn)
> I browsed through the hits from the first of the search terms above,
> "foreskin odor", and set forth a fair sample of the complaints below.
> Notice that several are from foreskinned men themselves, bemoaning
> their inability to keep the thing clean. (I will be sure to sample
> some of the other search terms above in the weeks ahead, and keep
> everybody informed of my findings.)
>
> *********
>
> Hi, I'm 17 years old and I have a problem with my foreskin. Lately I
> have noticed that my foreskin has an unusually unpleasant odor. I tired
> washing it but as soon as I leave it unwashed for a day or so it gets
> that smell again. I don't feel any pain it is only very unpleasant to
> know that my foreskin is so smelly. What could be the cause of my
> smelly foreskin, does it mean that I got some kind of a sexually
> transmitted disease?
>
> ***********
>
> My husband is 26 years old and not circumsized, if that matters. We
> have been together for 7 years and this has always been an issue as
> long as I can remember. Basically he has a very strong odor or smell
> coming from his penis. As far as I know (I have asked him about it) his
> hygiene is good. But if he retracts his foreskin you can smell it
> across a room. A large room. It is not a pleasant odor either. It is
> causing some problems in our sex life and I am concerned that it is
> hurting his career when coworkers smell him. I don't think he is
> entirely aware of it.
>
> ***********
>
> For many men, the smell of the glans and foreskin, after the normal
> course of the day's urination and smegma production, always remains
> objectionable and despite washing in the shower each morning and again
> after any ejaculation, there is that unmistakeable odor. Some men and
> even less women, find this collection of odors to be erotic - to most
> it's an embarrassment.
>
> **********
>
> I am 13, and uncut, when I roll back my foreskin, there is a smell, it
> used to be nothing but its got abit worse, noticeably smellable -
> slightly fishy *yes, its not that pleasant*
> I am wondering why..I wash down there with soap everyday in the shower,
> and a few times have tried actually getting a big blob of liquid soap
> for hands and rubbed it all over, but a day or 2 later it goes back to
> the smell - as if its like inside the skin.
>
> *********
> This is going to sound bad. I am not circumcised and I keep getting a
> bad smelling solid (kind of like tissue paper) under the foreskin. No
> matter how many times I clean it off it reoccurs. Do I have some
> disease or something? Signed: Bad Smell Under Foreskin
>
> *********
>
> Dear Condom Doc,
>
> My boyfriend is un-circumsized and sometimes his penis smells
> unbelievably bad. Could his stanky penis be caused by his being
> "uncut"?
>
> - Holding my nose
>
> *********
>
> I had a guy who came in for genital work and he was uncut. I was
> getting everything ready and prepping him, and when I started cleaning
> the area I could notice a bit of a smell. No biggy... But then when I
> pulled his foreskin back I almost threw up.
>
>
> *********
>
> I want to demand to you some questions about a big problem of sex I
> have which cause me much embarassments in ..certain situations! I have
> noticed that very often, when I taking back the skin of the head of the
> cock I discover that is covered with white substance like cheese with
> strong odor smelling bad. For this cause I have lot of embarassment
> when I make the love because often I not want to be naked with the
> women for the fear to not be clean_there!! A few years ago with a girl
> that I went with, happened this: we were out in the country a evening
> of the summer and she was excited very much and she become naked and
> wanted that I am naked also. I did but I stayed with the my panties
> on..but _she insisted very much and she taked them off because she
> desired to take the cock in the mouth for to make me a ..(I do'nt know
> the name in English) You know, if the cock is not in the erection the
> skin cover the head...but at that point I could'nt have control myself
> and I had the erection strongly for the excitation so the skin of the
> cock come back and leaved the head discovered with this substance and a
> odor very strong come out in air around! I am sure that the girl has
> sniffed the bad odor, but she not telled me probably for not to cause
> me the embarassement! I feeled so much shame and embarassement for
> this!!
>
> ********
>
> A few times in grade school and around other girls at work I would
> hearcomments of how nasty and smelly and ugly an uncut dick was. I
> canremember one time when these two girls in my office were talking
> aboutit and how they would never have sex with a uncut man and they
> made gesturesand comments how gross it was, etc. Then, suddenly they
> asked meif I was circumcised... I said "yes"... What was I going to
> say afterthey had just bashed being uncut. I was so embarrassed.
> Thesewere just some of the psychological factors. There are many,
> manymore instances that I could tell you about. Another reason that
> Ihated to be uncircumcised was the hygiene factor.
>
> This is also one of the big reasons I decided to get circumcised. I
> could live with the psychological to a point but the hygiene factor
> wasa big issue. Although I had a short foreskin which often moved
> backand forth during daily movement I still had a odor from the smegma
> sometimes. I know it sounds gross and nasty, this is because it is. I
> was scaredto death that someone would smell it. It was a unsanitary
> funky smellat times. I am sure you can ask any uncut man and he will
> know whatyou are talking about. Yeah, some anti-circumcision people
> say.."why can you just clean it and take a shower and use soap, etc".
> That is just not going to cut it. As any uncircumcised man
> knows,sometimes you can't do much about it. It will just smell
> sometimes. For example, one time it was so bad I almost died from
> humiliation. I was standing at a urinal next to one of my coworkers and
> I took my dickout to go to urinate and I pulled my foreskin back as
> usual and I smelledit. I was so embarrassed. I was praying that the
> guy next to me didnot smell it too. Keep in mind this was just a few
> hours after I showered.
>
> ***********
>
> Studies of present-day English homosexuals reveal that, unlike their
> American counterparts, whose primary method of contact is fellatio,
> they prefer genital apposition or very close body contact without
> penetration as a means to achieve ejaculation. The terms "rub off"
> or "slicklegging" are usually used to describe their practices. The
> distinct preference of Americans for fellatio may be due in part to the
> universal practice of infant circumcision in the United States. In
> countries where the practice is rare, the accumulation of sebaceous
> secretions beneath the foreskin and the resultant odor might render
> olfactory and penile proximity distasteful and induce uncircumcised
> Englishmen to restrict themselves to other manners of sexual
> gratification.
>
> **********
>
> "The difference between cut and uncut. uncut male if he does not keep
> the foreskin clean gets what is called smegma underneath the foreskin .
> A cut male cannot. And yes, look it up smegma- it is a word and is
> gross when you come acrossed it. That is why a prefer cut males."
>
> **********
>
> I have to agree with you, "hidden treasure," regarding smegma. I know
> from experience with my former foreskin. Smegma producion is a non-stop
> process. Odor appears within an hour of even a thorough cleansing.
>
>
> *********
>
> At the insistence of a woman I dated for several years, I was
> circumcised. Her doctor, a woman is very pro-circ for the health
> benefits. She gave me a very thorough circumcision.
> Cleanliness and odor, as well as smegma are worries of the past.
>
> *********
> Dear Experts,
>
> My boyfriend is uncircumcised and his penis sometimes has a bad odor.
> is this normal?
>
> *********
>
> I just wanted to add my comments to your circumcision page. I'm a 45 yr
> old married woman, but before I married I was very sexually active with
> a number of men.
> I spent a summer in Europe, and dated a few men who were uncircumcised.
> It is something I would never do again, and in fact when I met my
> husband I asked him point blank if he was cut or uncut, for if he were
> uncut, I would not have wanted to marry him.
> An uncut man, no matter how much he bathes, cannot get rid of that
> awful smegma odor...there is always a faint smell of it, even if he
> just showered a few hours ago.
> I was totally unprepared when I spent the summer in Europe...until
> then, I did not know that most European men are uncut! I assumed they
> were like American men. It was a very rude awakening.
>
>
> **********
>
> I get a pungent odor from my penis almost daily. i notice it more of i
> have had precum during the day from thinking about sex. i use an
> antibacterial soap every day and it still happens. it has been like
> this for about 6 years now.. nevr noticed it before..i pee after
> ejaculating and always use antibacterial soap.. any ideas?.. i am very
> clean, seriously.. i am also uncut,that is why i have always been a
> cleaner.
>
> **********
>
>
> I pull the cheese out of my foreskin, smear it along the length of my
> cock. I can smell the rich odor even in the reek of that bar.
>
> *********
>
> He told me his knob was really dirty, but that's the way he knew I'd
> like it. He'd read my ad, and sensed I was bent on tasting a really
> ripe foreskin. He said he NEVER bothered to wash his, and it was FULL
> of what I wanted. Then he stuck his big uncut dick right in front of my
> face.
>
> Wow! He wasn't kidding--what a raunchy smell!
>
> There was a strong stench of stale piss--like a dirty boghouse. And
> there was another mouthwatering smell--that pungent cockhead odor was
> unmistakable. Now, inches from my mouth was what I craved for most,
> more than anything - a REALLY CHEESY COCK!
>
> My heart pounded. I knew what was in store for me under that unwashed
> foreskin. I sensed the smegma was really thick under there! I peeled
> back the pink skin, hungry for its contents.
>
> As I did, the smell increased, and to my delight, pieces of smelly
> white cock cheese started to appear. As I went on peeling that uncut
> juicy dick. I couldn't believe my luck--the entire cockhead was
> completely covered with a stinking mass of delicious cock cheese, and
> loads more was caked around the end of the head, in between the folds
> of the loaded foreskin.
>
> ********
>
> I dated two guys who were uncut (one in the US and on in Europe), and
> let me tell you I would NEVER do that again. No matter how clean they
> were, the odor remained. I think men who are uncut dont notice it, and
> women who are used to uncut men dont notice it, but its THERE.
>
>
> *******
>
> Any suggestions, my foreskins hangs over about 1.5" when I'm
> erect...it's very loose (from stretching it when I was going through
> puberty), and no matter how often I wash, I always seem to have that
> musky odor.
>
> *******
>
> I love to play with the foreskin when I give him oral sex, too. ...
> really care for him and I want to do these things, but I'm really
> repelled by the odor
>
> ******
>
> I dated only one guy who was uncut, but I had a male friend also, who
> was uncut (an American). You could smell him through his clothing after
> he came back from a run. I didnt realize what that odor was un tiul I
> went to the UK and smelled it again (albeit not anywhere near as bad)
> on the guy I dated.
> I think its a lot like cigarette smoke...smokers and those used to
> being with them dont notice the smell because they are used to it. But
> I have had uncut male friends (other than the guy I mentioned who was
> runner) admit to me that no matter how much they wash, a faint odor
> remains (I guess girlfriends mentioned it?)
>
> *******
>
> It was not until my teens that I noticed that my penis would develop an
> 'smell', to put it one way. Despite morning showers, by the afternoon
> my penis would start to develop a slight odour, not strong, and not
> noticeable to others, but noticeable to me. If I missed a shower, say
> because I was camping, the odour grew stronger, and in cases such as
> these smegma would start to build up under the foreskin rather quickly.
> As a result, where possible I would wash twice a day. I noticed while
> living in Europe (where circumcision is in the minority), that many men
> would have a strong odour, like the one I was familiar with, in winter.
>
> ********
Moishe
darr...@aol.com wrote:
> winding...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Nothing arouses the ire of the foreskin fiends more than the issue of
> > foreskin odor. This one really hits them where it hurts.
> >
> > One of our anti circ contributors here, who has never experienced
> > another mans foreskin, takes issue with the fact that they are often
> > smelly, despite their owners best attempts to keep them clean. So I
> > thought I would google the issue, and what a surfeit of riches I found!
> >
> > Here are a few search terms with the number of hits:
Well you certainly spend a great deal of time googling for foreskin
info perhaps you should get a life lol I have some advice for you jew
queers-why don't you actually fuck a female and ask her opinion? From
all the people I've ever spoken to I have yet to hear a complaint from
females about uncut men. In fact, 9 out of 10 females can't even tell
if a man is cut or uncut but then they are not obsessed with cock like
you poofters are lol Get some psychological help queers because you
have a disease and personality disorder.
> >
> > Foreskin odor...........62,200
> > Foreskin stink..........32,200
> > Foreskin smell........217,000
> > Foreskin stench.......18,500
> > Revolting foreskin.....13,900
> > Stinking foreskin......15,600
> > Rancid foreskin........23,800
> > Disgusting foreskin...58,500
>
> Jew bullshit snipped by your inhouse mohel.
LaTreen Washington
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darr...@aol.com
> Hi
> I am one of those rare men that comment on this problem from both
> sides.
> I was un-circumcised for over fifty years, but was tigthly circumcised
> over two years ago, for medical reasons.
> I can certainly remember the stuggle of keeping the space under my
> foreskin clean and free from odour, every night I would have roll my
> foreskin all the way back and wash thoroughly to remove the waxy ,
> cheesy and smelly deposit (smegma).
> Hot weather and sexual activity would double or triple volume of
> smegma, so I would have to wash twice or three times a day, certainly
> if my wife and I, were mood if you know what I mean.
> With my foreskin went the problem of odour, circumcision removed the
> hiding place for smegma and odour. I now feel much cleaner, and oral
> sex has become a real pleasure for both of us.> Howell
Mazel-tov! May you keep on SHTUPPING for many more foreskin-free years!
eheee
conn...@hotmail.com
darrin...@aol.com wrote:
> howell...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Mazel-tov! May you keep on SHTUPPING for many more foreskin-free years!
> eheee
Look, I cut off the foreskins and now I'm stiff as hell between the
legs and gosh does it stinky stink!
What did I do wrong to create this situation? I just got the scissors
and nipped the skin off and fed it to the cats.
Should I be goin' to the doc to get a foreskin put back on? Or do I
need to retreive from the cats mouths?
Its very confusion I agree.
darr...@aol.com
> Hi
> Sorry but different strokes for different folks, but this may shock of
> the readers but I find the smell and taste of a natural womans genitals
> extremely exciting, not the sanitised scrubbed cleaned vulva, but the
> moist and real taste and texture. I must admit that can be enhanced if
> the area is denuded of pubic hair.
Apples and oranges!! Men are led by their noses. We are the horniest
creatures on the planet. As long as we have a warm hole to nestle
inside of, we will generally tolerate anything!ehe And that "anything"
includes the fishy-scented snatch!ehe Women should not have to tolerate
our emanations - the same cottage cheese-like fumes (aka smegma) that
can just as easily be eradicated with one simple, safe & beneficial
snip! Like it or not, God forgot to design a backup plan for female
genitalia! eh Even if one were to excise the labia minora/majora, one
would still be left with sebaceous ridden skin - clitoris (epicenter
for pleasure), whichis not comparative to the male prepuce. The head of
the penis (not the foreskin) is where the greatest degree of pleasure
lies. -D, NYC "Anti-circ activists make unusual claims about the smegma
and even claim there are glands under the foreskin that secrete
pheromones important in sexual attraction. There
is no support for such claims and all of their statements should be
regarded as fantasies unless proved otherwise by credible scientific
evidence. The wet tip of an uncircumcised penis could permit quicker
penetration. However, the requirements of the modern woman generally
differ somewhat from this kind of sex, which might have had some
benefit for primitive humans (Neanderthal man) who may have wanted to
complete the sex act quickly to minimize the time they were vulnerable
to predators. It has been suggested that quick sex with an
uncircumcised penis could favor homosexual sex in public lavatories,
with connotations regarding pedophilia. This is just tempting
speculation and the reader can make up their own mind" - (ibid).."A
London Times Survey (1996) by Dr. T. Stuttaford found that among
experienced Women & Prostitutes, 90% preferred sex with circumcised men
because it was more hygenic and pleasurable" - DR. SCHOEN.."I can see
it now - Puerto Rican Jew joins monastery - becomes first shlemonk!"
ehe - MR. KOTTER (Welcome Back, Kotter).."For two years, 900 Jews held
their own against 15,000 Roman soldiers, in the Massada. They wouldn't
give up. Where are the Romans now, huh?" eh - TONY SOPRANO.."You think
it's easy being a Puerto Rican Jew? You think it's easy growing up in a
house with 9 other Puerto Rican Jews? Half my brothers were out
stealing pants, while the other half were altering them!" ehehee - JUAN
EPSTEIN (Welcome Back, Kotter).."This Broadway's got a lot of songs to
sing. If I knew the tunes, I might join in. I'll go my way alone, grow
my own, my own seeds shall be sown in New York City" - ELTON JOHN.."If
we were forced to choose just one, there would be no way to deny that
Judaism is the most important intellectual development in human
history" - DAVID GELERTNER, Yale University Professor.."Five Jewish men
influenced the history of Western civilization: Moses said the law is
everything. Jesus said love is everything. Marx said capital is
everything. Freud said sex is everything. Einstein said everything is
relative" eh.."The Egg Cream is psychologically the opposite of
circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness!" ehe - MEL
BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."Born imperfect,
made perfect on the eighth day!".."To perfect the world (TIKUN OLAM) is
in Jewish thought - the obligation of every human being. Where better
to begin by fixing God's goof of foreskin?".."Life insurance companies
should class wearers of a prepuce under the head of a hazardous risk" -
MEDICAL WRITER, UNKNOWN.."Part of the foreskin they throw away after
circumcision, I believe it is called SCHMUCK" eh - DAVID GALE (Kevin
Spacey in The Life Of David Gale).."SURPRISED AT THE UNCIRCUMCISED
(eh): Two black friends are on a fire escape. One says to the other:
"Yo, I didn't know yo dick was uncircumcised. It look like an
anteater!" ehe - ABOVE THE RIM (1984).."Johnny Knoxville to Steve-O:
"You're not circumcised?" (laughter) eh - MTV's JACKASS.."Basically,
he's self-conscious about his dick, and he wants a circumcision" eh
-NIP/TUCK..."Circumcision is like a substantial and well-secured
annuity; every year of life you draw the benefits. Parents cannot make
a better paying investment for their little boys" - DR. P.C.
REMONDINO.."The anti-circumcision craze has developed because groups of
conservative, sensitive, medically misinformed individuals, some with
fanatical emotionalism, have not seen the consequences of a society
where males are not circumcised. While medical prophylactic measures
are readily accepted by our society, surgical prophylaxis is in danger
of being discarded by an overemphasis on the return to the "natural."
The intense pain of natural childbirth is seen as a reward while the
minor discomfort, if any, of circumcision is magnified beyond reason" -
DR.GERALD WEISS.."What I took back, because of my exposure to the
Jewish music of the '30s and the '40s in my upbringing with my father,
was that kind of theatrical songwriting. It was always a part of my
character. This desire to make people laugh" - PETE TOWNSHEND.."One of
the great mysteries that has always puzzled me is how Jews, who account
for such a tiny fraction of the world's population, have been able to
achieve so much and excel in so many different fields - science, music,
medicine, literature, arts, business and more. If you listed the most
influential people of the last hundred years, three at the top of the
list would be Einstein, Freud and Marx; all were Jews. Many more belong
on the list, yet Jews comprise at most less than 3 percent of the
United States population. They are an amazing people. Imagine the
persecution they endured over the centuries: pogroms, temple burnings,
Cossack raids, uprootings of families, their dispersal to the winds and
the Holocaust. After the Diaspora, they could not own land or worship
in much of the world; they were prohibited from voting and were told
where to live. Yet their children survived and Jews became by far the
most accomplished people per capita that the world has ever produced" -
MARLON BRANDO (excerpt from "SONGS MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME")
R. Steve Walz
>
> winding...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Nothing arouses the ire of the foreskin fiends more than the issue of
> > foreskin odor.
More ridiculous made-up crap.
Steve
Tom
female scent, causes the male scent...smegma. Funny how you wax
rhapsodic about it when it's on the female, and talk rabid about it
when it is on the male. Bon apetit.
darr...@aol.com
Obvious piece of trash? Still equating colorful use of language with
evil? You're a regular Einstein, eh?ehe IOW, unlike you, I do not have
syphilitic eyes!ehe Tom, circumcised men do not produce chunks of
smegma! Uncircumcised men do! And that's with or without daily hygiene.
The natural ardor of the sexes never intended to include smegma!
There's quite a difference between a tinge of musk and having a sewer
for a shlong!eheheeee -D, NYC "You think it's easy being a Puerto Rican
Jew? You think it's easy growing up in a house with 9 other Puerto
Rican Jews? Half my brothers were out stealing pants, while the other
half were altering them!" ehehee - JUAN EPSTEIN (Welcome Back,
Kotter).."The trouble with New York is it's so convenient to everything
I can't afford!" eh - JACK BENNY (b. Kubelsky, sweet Jew).."This
Broadway's got a lot of songs to sing. If I knew the tunes, I might
join in. I'll go my way alone, grow my own, my own seeds shall be sown
in New York City" - ELTON JOHN.."In spite of its small Jewish
population of only 5,000 in a population of over 3 1/2 million, New
Zealand once had a Jewish Prime Minister. Julius Vogel (1835-1899)
moved to New Zealand from Australia, where his mining ventures failed
and, by 1873, in what was certainly one of history's greatest immigrant
success stories, was elected Prime Minister. In 1875, he was knighted.
Contemporaries compared him to Benjamin Disraeli, but unlike the
British leader, Vogel remained a Jew all his life. Anti-Semitic
detractors called him "Jew-lius Caesar" - THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO
JEWISH HISTORY AND CULTURE by RABBI BENJAMIN BLECH "These people are
dazzled by the brilliancy of the city, and believe that there is room
for everyone in the Metropolis, where they suppose they can quickly
earn a competence and follow all the laws, minor as well as important,
that they had been led through so many generations to believe to be as
vital
as life itself" - REPORT OF THE UNITED HEBREW CHARITIES, 1893 (The
Promised City - New York's Jews, 1870-1914 by Moses Rischin).."Out of
the ghetto will go the lessons of Judaism: "Brotherly love - universal
peace" - H. IDELL ZEISLOFT, The New Metropolis, 1899 (ibid).."The
imagination of New York is not sufficiently alive to the fact that it
is about to become one of the greatest cities in the world; our mind is
still apt to become accustomed to the condition of New York in the
past" - FELIX ADLER, 1894..(ibid).."Trampled upon, banished as they
have been for centuries under the ban of religious persecution, at last
they find a land in which they have rights equal with all their fellow
countrymen"- PUCK, 1878 (ibid).."I'm the only Jew who ever made a buck
off of 'Hitler!" eh - MEL BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, Bklyn - umpteenth sweet,
Jewish NYer).."There are 80 different languages spoken in New York
City" - THE LITTLE BIG BOOK OF NEW YORK.."During the early 1900s, when
hundreds of thousands of Eastern European Jews emigrated to America and
settled in New York City, they brought their family recipes for
knishes. Knishes were made at home until Yonah Schimmel, a rabbi from
Romania, began to sell them at Coney Island ("America's First Amusement
Park") and from a pushcart on the Lower East Side. In 1910, he opened a
knish bakery on East Houston Street, where it still remains today" -
LITTLE BIG BOOK OF NEW YORK.."America was the Golden land...first my
father came to America. He wrote letters. We heard that he was working
hard, but that there was a future and you are free, not like in Russia"
- ABRAHAM HYMAN (Russian-Jewish immigrant, settled in NYC).."Of all the
ambitions of the great unpublished, the one that is strongest, the most
abiding, is the ambition to get to New York. For these, New York is the
pointe de depart, the pedestal, the niche, the indispensible vantage
ground" - FRANK NORRIS.."I love New York - it's where the American
Dream began!" -
DONALD TRUMP (umpteenth celebrity NYer - real estate king).."Between
1892 & 1924, 16 million immigrants entered America through Ellis Island
- 71 % of all immigrants in the United States - seeking freedom of
speech, freedom of religion, and economic opportunities" - LITTLE BIG
BOOK OF NEW YORK.."New York City has the most skyscrapers in the world
with more than 130" (ibid).."The truth shall set you free, but first,
you'll be really pissed off!" eh - BILL COSBY (original Cosby Show,
taped at NBC Midwood Studios, Bklyn)..."I thank God I was born on the
banks of the Hudson" - DIEDRICH KNICKERBOCKER, pseudonym of WASHINGTON
IRVING (Irving Plaza fame), poet/author, A History of New York -
1809.."The only credential (New York) was the boldness to dream" - MOSS
HART, act one, 1959.."Excelsior - ever upward!" - NY STATE MOTTO
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Tom
smegma! Uncircumcised men do! And that's with or without daily
hygiene."
And you are basing this on what, Darrin? Firsthand experience?
Something you imagined? When people correct you, because they have
experience, you simply ignore it, and continue to defame and slander.
Guess what? No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.
No matter how much you pretend you know what a whole penis is like, it
is still pretend.
"The natural ardor of the sexes never intended to include smegma!"
You mean odor? Surprise. What do *you* think makes the female scent?
Please, spare us any more of your cultural bias and medical ignorance.
Tom
darr...@aol.com
> "circumcised men do not produce chunks of
> smegma! Uncircumcised men do! And that's with or without daily
> hygiene.">
> And you are basing this on what, Darrin? Firsthand experience?
> Something you imagined? When people correct you, because they have
> experience, you simply ignore it, and continue to defame and slander.
> Guess what? No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.
> No matter how much you pretend you know what a whole penis is like, it
> is still pretend.
Research + physiology of foreskin + being circumcised = the above!! And
no matter how many times you deny the problems that are associated with
the male prepuce, it does not absolve its reality!! Let's do the math:
foreskin + poor hygiene = smegma, lint, balanitis, odoriferous
emanations. Absence of foreskin + poor hygiene = no smegma, no lint, no
balanitis, tolerable odoriferous emanations...
> "The natural ardor of the sexes never intended to include smegma!"
> You mean odor? Surprise. What do *you* think makes the female scent?>
Tom, I meant what I said the first time around! Ardor! Whip out your
Funk & Wagnalls and look it up! eh
> Please, spare us any more of your cultural bias and medical ignorance.
Time to step away from that Coney Island (America's First Amusement
Park) fun house mirror of yours!ehe I have yet to come upon one
anti-circer who used medical facts to back up their absurd assertions
to that hideous appendage. It's all based on psychosexual heebe jeebie
ideology. No facts, all propaganda!! That's what your ilk specializes
in!! You can't even be truthful about your sexuality! -D, NYC "I'm a
New York City girl - it's a little too quiet around here for me" - DALE
(Flash Gordon, 1980).."It's New York. Everyone thinks I'm Jewish!" -
GARRY MARSHALL filmmaker/actor, umpteenth celebrity I-talian NYer,
currently starring in Keeping Up With The Steins).."If Paris is French,
Coney Island, between June and September, is the world" - GEORGE
TILYOU.."Yeah, those goddamned anti-semites with their brutal
stereotypes of Jews as smart, driven, effective businessmen. Such utter
cruelty. It's truly sad to see so many innocent American Jews swept
down the path of education, success, and riches. We can only pray that
they, as a people, find a way to right the ship and get themselves on
track. Seriously, since when is it a myth that Jews have "found
incredible success in legitimate areas of business"? Maybe not *most
Jews*, but of all non-WASP ethnic groups in America, is there anyone as
overrepresented in positions of power, wealth, and influence? I'd be
interested to see the percent of Jews in the overall American
population alongside the percent in the upper tiers of just about any
index of personal success you could find. I'd be willing to bet you'd
find that they are far more successful, on average, than just about any
other ethnic group you could find. And correct me if I'm wrong, but
shouldn't that be a great source of pride? I would say that Jews pretty
much represent the ideal model for any ethnic group in America to
achieve success and assimilation, while still retaining their cultural
heritage - even in the face of and ignorant, intolerant, bigoted
majority. It's true that most of the rich, powerful men in this
country are WASPS, but then so are most of the degenerate fuck-ups. Of
course, I'm a WASP, so I guess using the term "Jew" makes me an
anti-semite" - JT (noaddressgi...@hotmail.com), online user.."I'd like
to send this one out for Lou and Rachel..and all the kids and P.S.
192..Coney Island Baby..Man, I'd swear, I'd give the whole thing up for
you" - LOU REED (family changed name from Rabinowitz, umpteenth sweet,
Jewish NYer).."'Cause everyone's your friend in New York City..And
everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty..The streets
are paved with diamonds and there's just so much to see..But the best
thing about New York City is you and me..Statue of Liberty, Staten
Island Ferry, Co-op City, Katz's and Tiffany's..Central Park, Brooklyn
Bridge, The Empire State where Dylan lived..Coney Island and Times
Square, Rockefeller Center..Wish I was there" - THEY MIGHT BE
GIANTS.."Coney Island was named after the Dutch word "coney," which
means rabbit, because the area was overrun with rabbits" - THE LITTLE
BIG BOOK OF NEW YORK.."Coney Island has been called America's
playground and it will be so again" - MARTY MARKOWITZ, sweet Jew,
Brooklyn Borough President
Tom
Tell us, Darrin. Do your women have foreskins? Are they repulsive and
unclean, because they do? Or do women have foreskins, and still manage
to be attractive? Do you really believe that sexual attraction down
through the ages has produced a male which is as repulsive as you
describe, unless he has the magic operation which cures all in your
eyes? What normal woman would mate with a man who fits your disgusting
representation? Get real, just for a moment, and let some daylight in.
Men are not born defective. Your insulting depiction of the 85% of men
who have foreskins, is a figment of your overactive imagination. That
is, unless you are actually having sex with them. Are you? If not,
it's time to stop being gross, and saying horrible things for shock
value, or to prop up your sagging ego.
If you are, it is time to ask them to wash, and time for you to start
hanging out with more normal men. The penises you describe are close
to physically impossible, hygiene-wise.
winding...@aol.com
>
> I wonder what he thinks about female circumcision?
>
So far as I am aware, every single person in this discussion group is
totally opposed to female "circumcision".
R. Steve Walz
>
> Tom wrote:
>
> > "circumcised men do not produce chunks of
> > smegma! Uncircumcised men do! And that's with or without daily
> > hygiene.">
>
> > And you are basing this on what, Darrin? Firsthand experience?
> > Something you imagined? When people correct you, because they have
> > experience, you simply ignore it, and continue to defame and slander.
> > Guess what? No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.
> > No matter how much you pretend you know what a whole penis is like, it
> > is still pretend.
>
> Research + physiology of foreskin + being circumcised = the above!!
Complete and total lie, you must have been born without o dick.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Steve, at least you're controlling your anti-Semitic insanity! LOL!
Smegma: "a transliteration of the Greek word σμήγμα for soap, is
a combination of exfoliated (shed) epithelial cells, transudated skin
oils, moisture, and bacteria that can accumulate under the FORESKIN of
MALES and within the female vulva area, with a characteristic strong
odor and taste. Since smegma can accumulate under the foreskin in
males, its presence is LESS COMMON AND NOTICEABLE IN CIRCUMCISED
MALES." I've gone 38-years with a circumcised shlong, and not once have
I seen chunks of smegma, or any odor related to smegma. As opposed to
the gobful of uncircumcised men who wash their shlongs daily, in hopes
of trying to rid themselves of smegma. Hint: soap (irritant)
exacerbates the condition! Remove the harbor for smegma (prepuce), and
you have removed the production & accumulation of sebaceous ridden
flesh! It's not impossible, but it's (visible smegma) a rarity in
circumcised males, unless one abstains from bathing for months or
years. And even then, it can still be an unlikelihood in the
circumcised. ehe Einstein (take a guess what his religion &
circumcision status was?ehe), in case you haven't noticed, there's a
moist flap of skin that acts as a cesspool for germs & disease! DOH!
-D, NYC "I'm a New York City girl - it's a little too quiet around here
for me" - DALE (Flash Gordon, 1980).."From a town known as Oyster Bay,
Long Island...Rode a boy with a six-pack in his hand" - BILLY JOEL
(umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - Top 100 selling artist of
all-time).."The Tri-State area has the greatest concentrate of luxury
homes in the US" - KEVIN DURST, author, Glitter That Was Once Gold:
Long Island Gold Coast.."I am interested in learning Talmud" - HILLARY
CLINTON (NY Senator, has Jewish in-laws).."I really do not speak
Yiddish - ah, maybe a bisel" - COLIN POWELL (b. Bronx).."I can just see
it now: Puerto Rican Jew joins monastery - becomes first shlemonk!" ehe
- MR. KOTTER (Welcome Back, Kotter).."Welcome to Brooklyn - fourth
largest city in America" - WELCOME BACK, KOTTER.."Of all the ambitions
of the great unpublished, the one that is strongest, the most abiding,
is the ambition to get to New York. For these, New York is the pointe
de depart, the pedestal, the niche, the indispensible vantage ground" -
FRANK NORRIS.."The trouble with New York is it's so convenient to
everything I can't afford!" eh - JACK BENNY (b. Kubelsky, sweet).."I
love New York - it's where the American Dream began!" - DONALD TRUMP
(umpteenth celebrity NYer - real estate king).."Between 1892 & 1924, 16
million immigrants entered America through Ellis Island - 71 % of all
immigrants in the United States - seeking freedom of speech, freedom of
religion, and economic opportunities" - LITTLE BIG BOOK OF NEW
YORK.."New York City has the most skyscrapers in the world with more
than 130" (ibid).."The truth shall set you free, but first, you'll be
really pissed off!" eh - BILL COSBY (original Cosby Show, taped at NBC
Midwood Studios, Bklyn)..."I thank God I was born on the banks of the
Hudson" - DIEDRICH KNICKERBOCKER, pseudonym of WASHINGTON IRVING
(Irving Plaza fame, NYC), poet/author, A History of New York -
darr...@aol.com
Winding, I think we all know where this shnook is going!eheh He's
dwelling in the anti-circ canard of comparing female circumcision to
routine infant circumcision. In order to believe in this absurd
comparison, the entire penis would have to be lopped off!!
Clitorectomies are illegal in the US and only occur in Third World
countries, whose sole purpose is to punish and curb promiscuity. Labia
reduction is the only legal, comparative medical procedure to RIC and
adult male circumcision. Just as many uncircumcised men may feel
embarrassed by having to SHLEP around an abominable eyesore, many women
may also feel self-conscious to the size of their foreskin (labia
minora/majora). -D, NYC "The most beloved anthem in American history
was written by a Jew - "GOD BLESS AMERICA" by IRVING BERLIN (b. Isidore
Israel Baline, raised in NYC).."This German-Jewish physician won a
Nobel prize in 1908 for curing syphilis with his "magic bullet" - DR.
PAUL EHRLICH.."This Jewish physician co-founded the AMA (American
Medical Association) in 1847" - ISAAC HAYS.."This Jewish scientist is
credited with the development of the birth control pill" - DR. GREGORY
PINCUS.."These Jewish physicians discovered one of the most important
medical discoveries (polio vaccine) of the 20th century" - DR. JONAS
SALK & DR. ALBERT SABIN.."This Jewish scientist was the first to
produce electromagnetic waves artificially, which ultimately gave way
to t.v., x-rays, radio & radar. This unit of frequency bears his name"
- HEINRICH HERTZ
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom wrote:
> > >
> > > > "circumcised men do not produce chunks of
> > > > smegma! Uncircumcised men do! And that's with or without daily
> > > > hygiene.">
> > >
> > > > And you are basing this on what, Darrin? Firsthand experience?
> > > > Something you imagined? When people correct you, because they have
> > > > experience, you simply ignore it, and continue to defame and slander.
> > > > Guess what? No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.
> > > > No matter how much you pretend you know what a whole penis is like, it
> > > > is still pretend.
> > >
> > > Research + physiology of foreskin + being circumcised = the above!!
> > -------------------
> > Complete and total lie, you must have been born without o dick.
> > Steve
>
> Steve, at least you're controlling your anti-Semitic insanity! LOL!
And me with kids of Jewish lineage you're a shit-fucking liar to claim
I'm antisemitic.
> Smegma: "a transliteration of the Greek word σμήγμα for soap, is
> a combination of exfoliated (shed) epithelial cells, transudated skin
> oils, moisture, and bacteria that can accumulate under the FORESKIN of
> MALES and within the female vulva area, with a characteristic strong
> odor and taste.
---------------------
Except that, like sweat and dead skin, nobody lets it accumulate, and
it is so easy to remove that no one has any who isn't a rotting drunk
on a bender laying in a pool of his own vomit.
You're a shit-fucking liar and you KNOW it.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> winding...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > I wonder what he thinks about female circumcision?> >
>
> > So far as I am aware, every single person in this discussion group is
> > totally opposed to female "circumcision".>>
>
> Winding, I think we all know where this shnook is going!eheh He's
> dwelling in the anti-circ canard of comparing female circumcision to
> routine infant circumcision.
And it is. The foreskin is an erotic zone.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tom wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "circumcised men do not produce chunks of
> > > > > smegma! Uncircumcised men do! And that's with or without daily
> > > > > hygiene.">
> > > >
> > > > > And you are basing this on what, Darrin? Firsthand experience?
> > > > > Something you imagined? When people correct you, because they have
> > > > > experience, you simply ignore it, and continue to defame and slander.
> > > > > Guess what? No matter how many times you tell a lie, it's still a lie.
> > > > > No matter how much you pretend you know what a whole penis is like, it
> > > > > is still pretend.
> > > >
> > > > Research + physiology of foreskin + being circumcised = the above!!
> > > -------------------
> > > Complete and total lie, you must have been born without o dick.
> > > Steve
> >
> > Steve, at least you're controlling your anti-Semitic insanity! LOL!
> -------------------
> And me with kids of Jewish lineage you're a shit-fucking liar to claim
> I'm antisemitic.
Ah, I keep forgetting why your wife & kids left you! LOL! Your
so-called Jewish family couldn't put up with your inferiority-complex!
eheee And what a doozy it is! eh.....
> > Smegma: "a transliteration of the Greek word σμήγμα for soap, is
> > a combination of exfoliated (shed) epithelial cells, transudated skin
> > oils, moisture, and bacteria that can accumulate under the FORESKIN of
> > MALES and within the female vulva area, with a characteristic strong
> > odor and taste.>
> Except that, like sweat and dead skin, nobody lets it accumulate, and
> it is so easy to remove that no one has any who isn't a rotting drunk
> on a bender laying in a pool of his own vomit.>
> You're a shit-fucking liar and you KNOW it.
> Steve
Steve, I see that your debating skills have vastly improved! LOL! When
unable to impugn facts, you resort to cursing like a tourette's
patient!eheheeeee Easy to clean, eh? Speaking of lies! DOH! As Dr.
Terry Russell said: "What man after a night of passion is going to
perform penile hygiene before rolling over and snoring the night away
(with pathogenic organisms multiplying in the warm moist environment
under the prepuce)" [182]. The bacteria start multiplying again
immediately after washing and contribute, along with skin secretions,
to the whitish film, termed 'smegma', that is found under the foreskin.
Bacteria give off an offensive odor. Men differ in their sensitivity
to this smell and some shower several times a day as a result. Some
uncircumcised men and/or their partners, find the stench so unpleasant
that the smell has caused these men to seek a circumcision on this
basis alone. Penile hygiene is often difficult to achieve and
attempting a very high degree of hygiene in uncircumcised men can
result in new dermatological problems. For mothers and fathers, it is
far easier to maintain cleanliness of their son's penis if it is
circumcised. If their son isn't the messages are confusing: should they
clean under the foreskin or leave it alone?" - appears on official site
of PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS http://www.circinfo.net (30+ years of unbias
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > winding...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > > I wonder what he thinks about female circumcision?> >
> >
> > > So far as I am aware, every single person in this discussion group is
> > > totally opposed to female "circumcision".>>
> >
> > Winding, I think we all know where this shnook is going!eheh He's
> > dwelling in the anti-circ canard of comparing female circumcision to
> > routine infant circumcision.
>> And it is. The foreskin is an erotic zone.
> Steve
And you have a misdemeanor mind in a felony world! eheheee No, the
foreskin is perceived to be erotic, due to yourself and other
homosexual skin freaks who sexualize & facilitate its upkeep. Steve,
you have no family, let alone one that is of the Jewish faith. No
Chosen One would ever come within 10 ft. of your smelly shlong! eh
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
in message <1430958.futyAMSUVH@FreeBSD>:
>Btw,
>Why are "you people" so keen on mutilating Gentile dicks anyway? If Jews
>want to mutilate 'your own' have at it, don't insist that Gentiles follow
>some stupid outdated Jewish religious practice, and then call them
>anti-semites when they refuse.
Of course, no one has done this, nor does the idiot child care to
acknowledge the health benefits from a circumcision -- it's just
another excuse for zie to vent zir irrational hate.
>Arabs are Semites, why don't you people
>start telling them to mutilate their children and leave Xians alone?
>
>Yids have been mutilating goyim dick for years.
Poor, pathetic little baby.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Roger wrote:
>>>Btw,
>>>Why are "you people" so keen on mutilating Gentile dicks anyway? If Jews
>>>want to mutilate 'your own' have at it, don't insist that Gentiles follow
>>>some stupid outdated Jewish religious practice, and then call them
>>>anti-semites when they refuse.
>> Of course, no one has done this, nor does the idiot child care to
>> acknowledge the health benefits from a circumcision -- it's just
>> another excuse for zie to vent zir irrational hate.
>Just more of you delusions.
No, another of your lies.
>>>Arabs are Semites, why don't you people
>>>start telling them to mutilate their children and leave Xians alone?
>>>
>>>Yids have been mutilating goyim dick for years.
>> Poor, pathetic little baby.
>What's wrong with calling them Yids?
And that's the only thing you feel is "wrong" about your statements
above?
>The call us Goyim, they call our Women
>Shiksa, etc. They think Gentiles are unclean beast.
No, they don't.
That's another of your lies you tell yourself to justify your
irrational hate.
>After a bottle of Wine
>has been opened they won't drink it after it has been touched by Goy hands.
... if they keep Kosher, because there's no way to guarantee that the
wine was not adulterated.
And this only applies to wine being used in a ceremonial matter, IIRC.
>Google Wine+Kosher.
Because of course, if someone makes the claim on the 'Net., it *must*
be true...
>Don't lecture me on racism, talk to them.
Funny that *they* don't continually post lies about *you* in these
forums, innit?
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > > Steve, at least you're controlling your anti-Semitic insanity! LOL!
> > -------------------
> > And me with kids of Jewish lineage you're a shit-fucking liar to claim
> > I'm antisemitic.
>
> Ah, I keep forgetting why your wife & kids left you!
You're lying once again, you're a shit-licking liar!
> Terry Russell said: "What man after a night of passion is going to
> perform penile hygiene before rolling over and snoring the night away
> (with pathogenic organisms multiplying in the warm moist environment
> under the prepuce)".
----------------------
But not normally to a degree that significant. The same can be said of
any woman in the same circumstance. You make something of nothing.
You are frightened of sex and sexuality, you are emotionally ill.
> The bacteria start multiplying again
> immediately after washing and contribute, along with skin secretions,
> to the whitish film, termed 'smegma', that is found under the foreskin.
-------------------------
Not to any significant degree in that amount of time, and it is easily
removed by nothing more than manipulation.
> Bacteria give off an offensive odor. Men differ in their sensitivity
> to this smell and some shower several times a day as a result.
--------------------
And some women imagine that their vagina smells all the time, this is
because they have been guilted about sex and told they were "dirty"
all their life, it is an emotional illness caused by the kind of
bullshit YOU promote, not a reality.
> Some
> uncircumcised men and/or their partners, find the stench so unpleasant
> that the smell has caused these men to seek a circumcision on this
> basis alone.
-----------------------
Nonsense, you're abjectly lying again.
> Penile hygiene is often difficult to achieve and
> attempting a very high degree of hygiene in uncircumcised men can
> result in new dermatological problems.
------------------------
Yes, people as stupid and crazy and deluded as you are have actually
washed their genitals raw in an insane attempt to remove all possible
odor, when the genitals quite naturally have a slight odor that
includes normal pheromones and odors intended to be an attractant.
That you don't have an appreciation for them is evidence of your
emotional illness.
That you continue to lie is further evidence of your sickness.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> What's wrong with calling them Yids? The call us Goyim, they call our Women
> Shiksa, etc. They think Gentiles are unclean beast.
You're a slit-licking Nazi.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
> > > Winding, I think we all know where this shnook is going!eheh He's
> > > dwelling in the anti-circ canard of comparing female circumcision to
> > > routine infant circumcision.
>
> >> And it is. The foreskin is an erotic zone.
> > Steve
> No, the
> foreskin is perceived to be erotic, due to yourself and other
> homosexual skin freaks who sexualize & facilitate its upkeep.
I'm not a homosexual. And the foreskin has always been an erogenous
zone and a subject of erotic interest to women who weren't brainwashed
by antisexual emotionally ill shit-lickers like you!
> Steve,
> you have no family, let alone one that is of the Jewish faith. No
> Chosen One would ever come within 10 ft. of your smelly shlong! eh
------------------------------------
You're a shit-licking liar, and I happen to be circumcised. But I
am against the sick mutilation of infants by shit like you!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
------------------
I know that you're a sickie, a real delusional. I lived near my
wife's Jewish parents for two decades, and with them for several
years, and Jews I have met have virtually no interest in calling
you ANYTHING! They simply aren't interested! The only uses of
those words I knew came from books, they are considered to be
a rather impoverished stereotypical form of humor, and not one
they are much interested in. There is MUCH more humor about Jews
coming from NON-Jews than from Jews.
Steve
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>R. Steve Walz wrote:
>>> What's wrong with calling them Yids? The call us Goyim, they call our
>>> Women Shiksa, etc. They think Gentiles are unclean beast.
>> You're a slit-licking Nazi.
>Err, I just see them as they see us.
Err, no you see them as you really really need them to see you, so
that your irrational hate might appear to be justified.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>Here is a story about Jews poising the water supply. Want to read it? Here
>it is..
this isn't a fiction group, idiot child.
Try alt.fiction.moonbats.conspiracies
Tom
with them.
R. Steve Walz
All nothing but paranoid delusional fantasy. You're mistaking your
dysfunctional imagination for reality. You're very very confused.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Tell it to the 2 billion happy foreskin owners, and the women who sleep
> with them.
More like 2.5 Billion. It's by far the most common way.
Steve
winding...@aol.com
Tom wrote:
> Tell it to the 2 billion happy foreskin owners, and the women who sleep
> with them.
>
*********
Hi, I'm 17 years old and I have a problem with my foreskin. Lately I
have noticed that my foreskin has an unusually unpleasant odor. I tired
washing it but as soon as I leave it unwashed for a day or so it gets
that smell again. I don't feel any pain it is only very unpleasant to
know that my foreskin is so smelly. What could be the cause of my
smelly foreskin, does it mean that I got some kind of a sexually
transmitted disease?
***********
My husband is 26 years old and not circumsized, if that matters. We
have been together for 7 years and this has always been an issue as
long as I can remember. Basically he has a very strong odor or smell
coming from his penis. As far as I know (I have asked him about it) his
hygiene is good. But if he retracts his foreskin you can smell it
across a room. A large room. It is not a pleasant odor either. It is
causing some problems in our sex life and I am concerned that it is
hurting his career when coworkers smell him. I don't think he is
entirely aware of it.
***********
For many men, the smell of the glans and foreskin, after the normal
course of the day's urination and smegma production, always remains
objectionable and despite washing in the shower each morning and again
after any ejaculation, there is that unmistakeable odor. Some men and
even less women, find this collection of odors to be erotic - to most
it's an embarrassment.
**********
I am 13, and uncut, when I roll back my foreskin, there is a smell, it
used to be nothing but its got abit worse, noticeably smellable -
slightly fishy *yes, its not that pleasant*
I am wondering why..I wash down there with soap everyday in the shower,
and a few times have tried actually getting a big blob of liquid soap
for hands and rubbed it all over, but a day or 2 later it goes back to
the smell - as if its like inside the skin.
*********
This is going to sound bad. I am not circumcised and I keep getting a
bad smelling solid (kind of like tissue paper) under the foreskin. No
matter how many times I clean it off it reoccurs. Do I have some
disease or something? Signed: Bad Smell Under Foreskin
*********
Dear Condom Doc,
My boyfriend is un-circumsized and sometimes his penis smells
unbelievably bad. Could his stanky penis be caused by his being
"uncut"?
- Holding my nose
*********
I had a guy who came in for genital work and he was uncut. I was
getting everything ready and prepping him, and when I started cleaning
the area I could notice a bit of a smell. No biggy... But then when I
pulled his foreskin back I almost threw up.
*********
I want to demand to you some questions about a big problem of sex I
have which cause me much embarassments in ..certain situations! I have
noticed that very often, when I taking back the skin of the head of the
cock I discover that is covered with white substance like cheese with
strong odor smelling bad. For this cause I have lot of embarassment
when I make the love because often I not want to be naked with the
women for the fear to not be clean_there!! A few years ago with a girl
that I went with, happened this: we were out in the country a evening
of the summer and she was excited very much and she become naked and
wanted that I am naked also. I did but I stayed with the my panties
on..but _she insisted very much and she taked them off because she
desired to take the cock in the mouth for to make me a ..(I do'nt know
the name in English) You know, if the cock is not in the erection the
skin cover the head...but at that point I could'nt have control myself
and I had the erection strongly for the excitation so the skin of the
cock come back and leaved the head discovered with this substance and a
odor very strong come out in air around! I am sure that the girl has
sniffed the bad odor, but she not telled me probably for not to cause
me the embarassement! I feeled so much shame and embarassement for
this!!
********
A few times in grade school and around other girls at work I would
hearcomments of how nasty and smelly and ugly an uncut dick was. I
canremember one time when these two girls in my office were talking
aboutit and how they would never have sex with a uncut man and they
made gesturesand comments how gross it was, etc. Then, suddenly they
asked meif I was circumcised... I said "yes"... What was I going to
say afterthey had just bashed being uncut. I was so embarrassed.
Thesewere just some of the psychological factors. There are many,
manymore instances that I could tell you about. Another reason that
Ihated to be uncircumcised was the hygiene factor.
This is also one of the big reasons I decided to get circumcised. I
could live with the psychological to a point but the hygiene factor
wasa big issue. Although I had a short foreskin which often moved
backand forth during daily movement I still had a odor from the smegma
sometimes. I know it sounds gross and nasty, this is because it is. I
was scaredto death that someone would smell it. It was a unsanitary
funky smellat times. I am sure you can ask any uncut man and he will
know whatyou are talking about. Yeah, some anti-circumcision people
say.."why can you just clean it and take a shower and use soap, etc".
That is just not going to cut it. As any uncircumcised man
knows,sometimes you can't do much about it. It will just smell
sometimes. For example, one time it was so bad I almost died from
humiliation. I was standing at a urinal next to one of my coworkers and
I took my dickout to go to urinate and I pulled my foreskin back as
usual and I smelledit. I was so embarrassed. I was praying that the
guy next to me didnot smell it too. Keep in mind this was just a few
hours after I showered.
***********
Studies of present-day English homosexuals reveal that, unlike their
American counterparts, whose primary method of contact is fellatio,
they prefer genital apposition or very close body contact without
penetration as a means to achieve ejaculation. The terms "rub off"
or "slicklegging" are usually used to describe their practices. The
distinct preference of Americans for fellatio may be due in part to the
universal practice of infant circumcision in the United States. In
countries where the practice is rare, the accumulation of sebaceous
secretions beneath the foreskin and the resultant odor might render
olfactory and penile proximity distasteful and induce uncircumcised
Englishmen to restrict themselves to other manners of sexual
gratification.
**********
"The difference between cut and uncut. uncut male if he does not keep
the foreskin clean gets what is called smegma underneath the foreskin .
A cut male cannot. And yes, look it up smegma- it is a word and is
gross when you come acrossed it. That is why a prefer cut males."
**********
I have to agree with you, "hidden treasure," regarding smegma. I know
from experience with my former foreskin. Smegma producion is a non-stop
process. Odor appears within an hour of even a thorough cleansing.
*********
At the insistence of a woman I dated for several years, I was
circumcised. Her doctor, a woman is very pro-circ for the health
benefits. She gave me a very thorough circumcision.
Cleanliness and odor, as well as smegma are worries of the past.
*********
Dear Experts,
My boyfriend is uncircumcised and his penis sometimes has a bad odor.
is this normal?
*********
I just wanted to add my comments to your circumcision page. I'm a 45 yr
old married woman, but before I married I was very sexually active with
a number of men.
I spent a summer in Europe, and dated a few men who were uncircumcised.
It is something I would never do again, and in fact when I met my
husband I asked him point blank if he was cut or uncut, for if he were
uncut, I would not have wanted to marry him.
An uncut man, no matter how much he bathes, cannot get rid of that
awful smegma odor...there is always a faint smell of it, even if he
just showered a few hours ago.
I was totally unprepared when I spent the summer in Europe...until
then, I did not know that most European men are uncut! I assumed they
were like American men. It was a very rude awakening.
**********
I get a pungent odor from my penis almost daily. i notice it more of i
have had precum during the day from thinking about sex. i use an
antibacterial soap every day and it still happens. it has been like
this for about 6 years now.. nevr noticed it before..i pee after
ejaculating and always use antibacterial soap.. any ideas?.. i am very
clean, seriously.. i am also uncut,that is why i have always been a
cleaner.
**********
I pull the cheese out of my foreskin, smear it along the length of my
cock. I can smell the rich odor even in the reek of that bar.
*********
He told me his knob was really dirty, but that's the way he knew I'd
like it. He'd read my ad, and sensed I was bent on tasting a really
ripe foreskin. He said he NEVER bothered to wash his, and it was FULL
of what I wanted. Then he stuck his big uncut dick right in front of my
face.
Wow! He wasn't kidding--what a raunchy smell!
There was a strong stench of stale piss--like a dirty boghouse. And
there was another mouthwatering smell--that pungent cockhead odor was
unmistakable. Now, inches from my mouth was what I craved for most,
more than anything - a REALLY CHEESY COCK!
My heart pounded. I knew what was in store for me under that unwashed
foreskin. I sensed the smegma was really thick under there! I peeled
back the pink skin, hungry for its contents.
As I did, the smell increased, and to my delight, pieces of smelly
white cock cheese started to appear. As I went on peeling that uncut
juicy dick. I couldn't believe my luck--the entire cockhead was
completely covered with a stinking mass of delicious cock cheese, and
loads more was caked around the end of the head, in between the folds
of the loaded foreskin.
********
I dated two guys who were uncut (one in the US and on in Europe), and
let me tell you I would NEVER do that again. No matter how clean they
were, the odor remained. I think men who are uncut dont notice it, and
women who are used to uncut men dont notice it, but its THERE.
*******
Any suggestions, my foreskins hangs over about 1.5" when I'm
erect...it's very loose (from stretching it when I was going through
puberty), and no matter how often I wash, I always seem to have that
musky odor.
*******
I love to play with the foreskin when I give him oral sex, too. ...
really care for him and I want to do these things, but I'm really
repelled by the odor
******
I dated only one guy who was uncut, but I had a male friend also, who
was uncut (an American). You could smell him through his clothing after
he came back from a run. I didnt realize what that odor was un tiul I
went to the UK and smelled it again (albeit not anywhere near as bad)
on the guy I dated.
I think its a lot like cigarette smoke...smokers and those used to
being with them dont notice the smell because they are used to it. But
I have had uncut male friends (other than the guy I mentioned who was
runner) admit to me that no matter how much they wash, a faint odor
remains (I guess girlfriends mentioned it?)
*******
It was not until my teens that I noticed that my penis would develop an
'smell', to put it one way. Despite morning showers, by the afternoon
my penis would start to develop a slight odour, not strong, and not
noticeable to others, but noticeable to me. If I missed a shower, say
because I was camping, the odour grew stronger, and in cases such as
these smegma would start to build up under the foreskin rather quickly.
As a result, where possible I would wash twice a day. I noticed while
living in Europe (where circumcision is in the minority), that many men
would have a strong odour, like the one I was familiar with, in winter.
********
Serial Killfiler
wrote:
>Dad sues to block son's circumcision
>
>An Arlington Heights father will appear in court today to fight what he says
>is a plan to "mutilate" his 8-year-old son by circumcising him.
>
>The boy's mother argues that without circumcision his recurring infections
>will only get worse.
>
>The divorced couple is embroiled in a bitter fight that will see national
>experts flying in to testify before a Cook County judge. Their battle
>reflects a national debate on circumcision -- a procedure that has dropped
>in popularity in the United States over the last 25 years.
>
>The couple -- he's a Polish native, she's Slovak -- married in 1996 and
>divorced in 2000.
This circumcision practice began as a means for providing ritual
cleanliness and for protecting the health of men and women before
there were daily showers and antibiotics. Why people want to make
such a controversy out of it is puzzling to me, since the advantages
are so obvious, and since nobody makes you order this for your sons.
I also fail to see why any woman would want an uncircumcised partner.
It's simply not as hygenic as having a circumcised partner. I'm not
married anymore but if I were ever to remarry, I would not accept an
uncircumcised husband.
TSK
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"May those who damn us be damned."
alhuriy...@NOBOTSyahoo.com
darr...@aol.com
> > Tell it to the 2 billion happy foreskin owners, and the women who sleep
> > with them.
2 billion served in the Third World, perhaps! In America (world's most
powerful & influential nation), do as the Americans do!! Extra skin =
queasy gals = less boots a knockin'! ehehe Common sense + civility =
circumcision. In Europe, they bathe once a month, and only wash their
hair every 6 months. LOL! Not so much due to intentional poor hygiene,
as it is with cultural complacency and laxness. The end result is still
the same: Europe reeks to high heaven! eh There's a reason why Pepe Le
Pew exists! LOL!
"I love New Orleans...I love the romance...I love Sydney, Australia...I
love anywhere in France...I love Dublin, I love London and Berlin...But
New York is the best of any place I've bin'" - TOM TOM CLUB.."This
Australian transplanted superstar is the maternal granddaughter of
German-Jewish physicist & Nobel prize winner MAX BORN" - OLIVIA
NEWTON-JOHN.."Australia remains to this day the only country in the
world, other than Israel, whose founding members included Jews" - THE
VIRTUAL JEWISH HISTORY TOUR - Australia By DAVID SHYOVITZ.."This
Australian-Jewish General & civil engineer has a university in
Australia & a village in Israel named after him" - SIR JOHN
MONASH.."This "first" Australian-Jewish composer is known as "the
father of Australian music" - ISAAC NATHAN.."That the Jews are
connected with God in a special way and that God does not allow that
bond to fail is entirely obvious. We wait for the instant in which
Israel will say yes to Christ, but we know that it has a special
mission in history now... which is significant for the world" - POPE
BENEDICT XVI.."I've always been the victim of my own success. I have so
many years of sort of the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval stamped on
my forehead. I sort of wear that the way the Jews wore the star, you
know, and I'm proud of it; the Jews were proud to wear the star as
well" - STEVEN SPIELBERG (most successful filmmaker since the advent of
film, sweet Jew).."If all 2,000,000 boys born in the US annually were
circumcised, the following would be prevented during their lifetimes:
7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of syphilis, 20,000 cases of
pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent bacterema, 1,500 cases of
hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal disease, 2,000 cases of
penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and 250,000-500,000 cases of
balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+ years of unbias research
on the benefits of circumcision..."It makes me roll my eyes every time
one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of
the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't
given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a
hell of a lot for that one!" ehe - LARRY MILLER (sweet Jew, Whoever So
Blesses Them).."When we moved to Phoenix, I was one of only five Jewish
kids in elementary and high school. There was a lot of anti-Semitism
against me and my sisters. In study hall, kids used to pitch pennies at
me, which would hit my desk and make a large clatter. It was called
'pitching pennies at the Jew,' and it was very hurtful" - STEVEN
SPIELBERG (2-time Oscar winner, most successful filmmaker since the
advent of film).."Prior to and leading up to Nazi Germany, Jews,
although just under 1 percent of the population of Germany, constituted
16 percent of its practicing lawyers, 10 percent of its doctors and
dentists, 17 percent of its bankers. In the commercial community, Jews
accounted for 11 percent of the personnel in real-estate brokerage, 25
percent in retailing, 30 percent in the clothing trade, and 70 percent
in department stores" - GERMANY WITHOUT JEWS By Bernt Englemann.."Even
if the Jews have not all been geniuses,
their general average of intelligence and intellectuality is far above
our general average - and that is one of our reasons for wishing to
drive them out of the higher forms of business and the professions. It
is the swollen envy of pygmy minds" - MARK TWAIN.."Should another Moses
arise and preach a Semitic exodus from Germany, and should he prevail,
they would leave the land impoverished far more than was ancient Egypt
by the loss of jewels of gold and the jewels of silver of which the
people were spoiled. There is not a profession which would not suffer
serious loss of many of its most brilliant ornaments, and in none more
so than in our own. (i.e. medicine)" - SIR WILLIAM OSLER, 1884.."The
Jews have the best average brain of any people in the world. They are
peculiarly and conspicuously the world's intellectual aristocracy" -
MARK TWAIN.."The Jews are the yeast in the bread of civilization which
causes it to grow" - BEN HECHT (sweet).."It's anti-Semitic to point out
that Jews are smarter than Gentiles. Gimme a break. Who doesn't know
that Jews are smarter than Gentiles? Newsweek (8/21/00) gives the
Jewish population of the U.S. at two percent. Does anybody think that
the number of Jewish lawyers, college professors, successful
businessmen, mathematicians, is two percent? Anybody? How can it be
offensive to say something so dazzlingly obvious? If I were Jewish, I'd
be flattered to hear this. For the record, I consider myself a
philosemite. It has been truly said (by Paul Johnson in his History of
the Jews) that if you take almost anything - science, law, philosophy,
literature, medicine, music - and track it back to its roots, you will
find Jews there, or at least meet an awful lot of them along the way. I
am a big fan of Western Civilization: and I know - again, who doesn't
know? - that the debt we Gentiles owe to the Jews is colossal, and can
never be repaid. No doubt I shall now get letters explaining to me that
this opinion, too, is "anti-Semitic". Another thing you learn writing
for the public is that anything whatsoever that you say about Jews or
Jewishness is "anti-Semitic" to somebody out there" - JOHN DERBYSHIRE,
National Review - "10 Things You Can't Say In America.."The
anti-circumcision craze has developed because groups of conservative,
sensitive, medically misinformed individuals, some with fanatical
emotionalism, have not seen the consequences of a society where males
are not circumcised. While medical prophylactic measures are readily
accepted by our society, surgical prophylaxis is in danger of being
discarded by an overemphasis on the return to the "natural." The
intense pain of natural childbirth is seen as a reward while the minor
discomfort, if any, of circumcision is magnified beyond reason" - DR,
GERALD WEISS.."Circumcision is like a substantial and well-secured
annuity; every year of life you draw the benefits. Parents cannot make
a better paying investment for their little boys" - DR. P.C. REMONDINO
> >
>
> *********
>
>
> Hi, I'm 17 years old and I have a problem with my foreskin. Lately I
> have noticed that my foreskin has an unusually unpleasant odor. I tired
>
> washing it but as soon as I leave it unwashed for a day or so it gets
> that smell again. I don't feel any pain it is only very unpleasant to
> know that my foreskin is so smelly. What could be the cause of my
> smelly foreskin, does it mean that I got some kind of a sexually
> transmitted disease?
Winding, Steve is not in his right mind! No amount of proof is ever
going to convince him otherwise. This is the same man who is
pro-NAMBLA, and who once admitted to having orgies in front of his
children. Steve is one wave short of a shipwreck!! eh
Jake Waskett
2 billion is closer, Steve.
Tom
darr...@aol.com
> Dear Abbie,
> I like to suck cock. When a guy is uncircumcised, and has smegma, I am
> too shy to ask them to wash. Can't everybody just be universally
> circumcised, so that I never run into the problem in the first place?
> Thank you so much,
> Winding High
Tom, you've just been named master anti-circ propagandist of
alt.circumcision. eh How do you feel? Tom: "I'm going to Deliverance
land!!" ehheeeee And in the next message, Tom had the chutzpah to place
my sanity into question? LOL! Once again, the skin freak psychosexuals
truly do not see what they say or do!
darr...@aol.com
> And you are a bastion of sanity, right, Darrin?
Coney Island fun house mirror, meet Tom! LOL!
darr...@aol.com
His being Polish also doesn't help! eheee The father won't rest until
his son's infected putz is dangling by a mere thread. This case reminds
of Clueless Rue on alt.circumcision. Her own Canuck shnook hubby had to
be circumcised at the tender age of one, because her ignorant &
uncaring in-laws used the same rationale as she: "We're not Jewish, so
why do we have to circumcise our baby baba-booeys?" eh DOH! FYI: 10% of
newborns (Canada alone) not circumcised at birth, will eventually
necessitate circumcision!! FOREsight + FOREskin = inevitability of
circumcision. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. One
should take every precautionary measure to ensure that a child leads a
happy & healthy life. And circumcision is one such measure that is
analogous to immunization, in that side effects & complications are
usually immediate & minor, but benefits accrue for a lifetime. In my
7-years of accessing alt.circumcision, I have found that the
overwhelming majority of those who oppose this simple, safe &
beneficial procedure can be categorized into three groups: 1)
Homosexual foreskin fetishists. 2) anti-Semites who use circumcision as
another way of scapegoating Jews for their own misfortunes. 3)
ill-informed imbeciles. -D
Mike M
fronts, faces, ears, noses, and even circumcised epithelial tissue
didn't stink, then we wouldn't need to take a daily bath. You guys are
really funny with your stories of "no odor"-probably the same men that
claim their farts smell good
darr...@aol.com
> ----------
> In article <1150827508....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> > ill-informed imbeciles.>
> Can't wash their knobs before sex, so they go the lazy route and skin them..
> Remember girls! Soapy fun is the BEST foreplay there is! ;)> Deb.>>
Deb, time to squat over a mirror and examine your own genitalia!ehee
Not when you have a moist flap of skin that continually traps gunk at
every turn. Soap (irritant) can actually exacerbate the existing
foreskin condition, cause the bacteria (smegma) to multiply. Why else
do uncircumcised men scrub their smelly shlongs like incessant
marsupials in the wild, hoping to rid themselves of that putrid
substance known as smegma? Hint: circumcision is the only known cure!!
Once you change the physiology of foreskin (ie. circumcision), you have
then removed the causation for a host of prepuce-related maladies. If
you sincerely believe that women revel in the idea of feasting on male
smegma, then you must also egg on monkeys to throw urine & feces at
your zoo-like punim! ehehee I'd hate to see what's doing in your mouth
& cervix! LOL! -D, NYC "My so-called Jewish roots are in Egypt. They
went down there with Joseph, and they came back with Moses, you know,
the guy that killed the Egyptian, married an Ethiopian girl, and
brought the law down from the mountain" - BOB DYLAN (b. Zimmerman,
sweet Jew - "Voice of A Generation, Top 100 selling artist of all-time)
Turin
darr...@aol.com wrote:
> Deborah Terreson wrote:
> > ----------
> > In article <1150827508....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > > ill-informed imbeciles.>
>
> > Can't wash their knobs before sex, so they go the lazy route and skin them..
> > Remember girls! Soapy fun is the BEST foreplay there is! ;)> Deb.>>
>
> Deb, time to squat over a mirror and examine your own genitalia!ehee
What, Do you want to give her seven years bad luck....?
> Not when you have a moist flap of skin that continually traps gunk at
> every turn. Soap (irritant) can actually exacerbate the existing
> foreskin condition, cause the bacteria (smegma) to multiply.
Dweb is just another sexpert of the letters page. She's probably got a
huge stack of adult stories sitting by her bed. The only toe curling
she's done has been by seeing how long she could let the nails grow.
> Why else
> do uncircumcised men scrub their smelly shlongs like incessant
> marsupials in the wild, hoping to rid themselves of that putrid
> substance known as smegma?
Obviously, because Dweb isn't there to suck it out.
> Hint: circumcision is the only known cure!!
> Once you change the physiology of foreskin (ie. circumcision), you have
> then removed the causation for a host of prepuce-related maladies. If
> you sincerely believe that women revel in the idea of feasting on male
> smegma, then you must also egg on monkeys to throw urine & feces at
> your zoo-like punim! ehehee I'd hate to see what's doing in your mouth
> & cervix!
Lmfao ......it probably ain't pretty.
Has she told you about her past time of swimming in dumpsters? ...got
4 perfectly good pairs of panties that way, and a date with Tom smith,
just last week.
- - -
This has been another enlightening moment, with:
Turin
I have such sites to show you...
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http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First
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"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."
-----
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be 127.0.0.1 wrote
>R. Steve Walz wrote:
>>> Here is a story about Jews poising the water supply. Want to read it?
>> All nothing but paranoid delusional fantasy. You're mistaking your
>> dysfunctional imagination for reality. You're very very confused.
>> Steve
>All is not as it seems.. Go back and re-read 1984 for a glimpse at the
>future & the coming police state.
It's a work of *Fiction*, idiot child -- look it up.
>BYU Physics Prof Finds Thermate in WTC Physical Samples, Building
>Collapses an Inside Job
>author: Jacob Hamblin
>http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml
>http://www.911revisited.com/
>Based on chemical analysis of WTC structural steel residue, a Brigham
>Young University physics professor
... with no known expertise in materials analysis...
Deborah Terreson
----------
In article <1150848197.0...@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
darr...@aol.com wrote:
> Deborah Terreson wrote:
>> ----------
>> In article <1150827508....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> darr...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> > ill-informed imbeciles.>
>
>> Can't wash their knobs before sex, so they go the lazy route and skin them..
>> Remember girls! Soapy fun is the BEST foreplay there is! ;)> Deb.>>
>
> Deb, time to squat over a mirror and examine your own genitalia!ehee
I have a very pretty cunt, thankyouverymuch.
> Not when you have a moist flap of skin that continually traps gunk at
> every turn. Soap (irritant) can actually exacerbate the existing
> foreskin condition, cause the bacteria (smegma) to multiply.
What kind of shitty soap do you use? You need to use a nice clean kosher
soap like Dr. Bronner's - that'll keep your schmeckel clean without any
irritating residues. Try the peppermint - it's quite a sensation!
>Why else
> do uncircumcised men scrub their smelly shlongs like incessant
> marsupials in the wild, hoping to rid themselves of that putrid
> substance known as smegma? Hint: circumcision is the only known cure!!
Smegma is in women's bodies too: It has been shown to have anti-bacterial
properties, hence it IS generally ill-advised to use things like douches.
Think about that next time you're ready to give the 'royal tongue-lashing'
to the Mrs.
> Once you change the physiology of foreskin (ie. circumcision), you have
> then removed the causation for a host of prepuce-related maladies.
In a desert environment, where water is scarce, it makes sense to not be
cleaning your tadger - you may need that water for drinking - in that
instance it IS better to just skin it.
> If
> you sincerely believe that women revel in the idea of feasting on male
> smegma, then you must also egg on monkeys to throw urine & feces at
> your zoo-like punim! ehehee
How about men that love a fishy, smelly cootchie to slurp and suck on? What,
you think that 'fromunda cheeze' that 'panty pudding' ain't smegma?
Au contraire, mon frere!
Why do you think I said 'Soapy fun is the BEST foreplay there is!'?
Hello!
>I'd hate to see what's doing in your mouth & cervix! LOL!
Right now, I got Corona Extra (with lime) doing in my mouth and my cervix
is.. well, I don't know right now. It's probably quite nice..
Deb.
Tom
mates, Darrin.
R. Steve Walz
> future & the coming police state.
History has shown fiction to be a poor prediction of the future.
Allegory is not reality, it is meta-reality.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
Excellent.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:37:50 -0400, "127.0.0.1" <nos...@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
> >R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >
> >> Tom wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Tell it to the 2 billion happy foreskin owners, and the women who sleep
> >>> with them.
> >> ------------------------
> >> More like 2.5 Billion. It's by far the most common way.
> >> Steve
> >
> >Dad sues to block son's circumcision
> >
> >An Arlington Heights father will appear in court today to fight what he says
> >is a plan to "mutilate" his 8-year-old son by circumcising him.
> >
> >The boy's mother argues that without circumcision his recurring infections
> >will only get worse.
She obviously won't teach him to clean himself. He should be
removed from her custody.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Deborah Terreson wrote:
> > ----------
> > In article <1150827508....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > > ill-informed imbeciles.>
>
> > Can't wash their knobs before sex, so they go the lazy route and skin them..
> > Remember girls! Soapy fun is the BEST foreplay there is! ;)> Deb.>>
>
> Deb, time to squat over a mirror and examine your own genitalia!ehee
> Not when you have a moist flap of skin that continually traps gunk at
> every turn. Soap (irritant) can actually exacerbate the existing
> foreskin condition, cause the bacteria (smegma) to multiply.
More lies and nonsense. Soap is a mild irritant, but you rinse it
away, you don't leave it there.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
3 billion is closer. I was being conservative.
Circumcision is fading.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Tom wrote:
> > Tell it to the 2 billion happy foreskin owners, and the women who sleep
> > with them.
>
> have noticed that my foreskin has an unusually unpleasant odor. I tired
And you're not 17 and you're a lying winder-sockpuppet.
Steve
Amanda
such a huge debate in our mothers group....try dad's or perv's or hell even
SICKOO'S.alt...get a life, why are you discussing it!???
Amanda
*Smile it'll get better!*
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> winding...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Nothing arouses the ire of the foreskin fiends more than the issue of
>> foreskin odor. This one really hits them where it hurts.
>>
>> One of our anti circ contributors here, who has never experienced
>> another mans foreskin, takes issue with the fact that they are often
>> smelly, despite their owners best attempts to keep them clean. So I
>> thought I would google the issue, and what a surfeit of riches I found!
>>
>> Here are a few search terms with the number of hits:
>>
>> Foreskin odor...........62,200
>> Foreskin stink..........32,200
>> Foreskin smell........217,000
>> Foreskin stench.......18,500
>> Revolting foreskin.....13,900
>> Stinking foreskin......15,600
>> Rancid foreskin........23,800
>> Disgusting foreskin...58,500
>
> LOL! A virtual menu of stink! eh It boggles the mind that the solution
> is right under their flaring nostrils! eh -D, NYC "If all 2,000,000
> boys born in the US annually were circumcised, the following would be
> prevented during their lifetimes: 7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of
> syphilis, 20,000 cases of pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent
> bacterema, 1,500 cases of hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal
> disease, 2,000 cases of penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and
> 250,000-500,000 cases of balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+
> talk about one other issue I had? I'm almost hesitant to say
> this...because I'm not gay...I'm not looking at other guys...but the
> whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups...It's
> just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" ehe - BABA
> BOOEY (aka Boy Gary Dell'Abate, I-talian, producer - Howard Stern
> (sweet circumcised Jew) show, commenting on having seen a recent porn)
>
>> I browsed through the hits from the first of the search terms above,
>> "foreskin odor", and set forth a fair sample of the complaints below.
>> Notice that several are from foreskinned men themselves, bemoaning
>> their inability to keep the thing clean. (I will be sure to sample
>> some of the other search terms above in the weeks ahead, and keep
>> everybody informed of my findings.)
>>
>> *********
>>
>> Hi, I'm 17 years old and I have a problem with my foreskin. Lately I
>> have noticed that my foreskin has an unusually unpleasant odor. I tired
>> that smell again. I don't feel any pain it is only very unpleasant to
>> know that my foreskin is so smelly. What could be the cause of my
>> smelly foreskin, does it mean that I got some kind of a sexually
>> transmitted disease?
>>
Jake Waskett
You may think you were being conservative, but in fact you were being
wrong.
World population (approx): 6,000,000,000
% male (approx): 50
World male population (approx): 3,000,000,000
% circumcised (approx): 30
% uncircumcised (approx): 70
World circumcised male population (approx): 2,100,000,000
= 2.1 billion
LaTreen Washington
Iraq.
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Stormy
Turin wrote:
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > Deborah Terreson wrote:
> > > ----------
> > > In article <1150827508....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > ill-informed imbeciles.>
> >
> > > Can't wash their knobs before sex, so they go the lazy route and skin them..
> > > Remember girls! Soapy fun is the BEST foreplay there is! ;)> Deb.>>
> >
> > Deb, time to squat over a mirror and examine your own genitalia!ehee
>
>
> What, Do you want to give her seven years bad luck....?
>
>
> > Not when you have a moist flap of skin that continually traps gunk at
> > every turn. Soap (irritant) can actually exacerbate the existing
> > foreskin condition, cause the bacteria (smegma) to multiply.
>
>
> Dweb is just another sexpert of the letters page. She's probably got a
> huge stack of adult stories sitting by her bed. The only toe curling
> she's done has been by seeing how long she could let the nails grow.
>
LOL!
>
> > Why else
> > do uncircumcised men scrub their smelly shlongs like incessant
> > marsupials in the wild, hoping to rid themselves of that putrid
> > substance known as smegma?
>
>
> Obviously, because Dweb isn't there to suck it out.
>
>
> > Hint: circumcision is the only known cure!!
> > Once you change the physiology of foreskin (ie. circumcision), you have
> > then removed the causation for a host of prepuce-related maladies. If
> > you sincerely believe that women revel in the idea of feasting on male
> > smegma, then you must also egg on monkeys to throw urine & feces at
> > your zoo-like punim! ehehee I'd hate to see what's doing in your mouth
> > & cervix!
>
>
> Lmfao ......it probably ain't pretty.
>
> Has she told you about her past time of swimming in dumpsters? ...got
> 4 perfectly good pairs of panties that way, and a date with Tom smith,
> just last week.
>
>
I wouldn't have called them 'perfectly good' Turin. I didn't wash them
before I threw them out ;)
Stormy
Tom
Don't worry. When they start getting turned down for dates, or
horrifying a potential partner to the point where the person says
something and their feelings get hurt, they wise up fast. These are
mostly posts about young boys, who are just learning how to take care
of their bodies.
Do you really think that universal surgery is the answer? Do you think
that cutting is better than them learning the hard way?
LaTreen Washington
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>
> Ok seriously....your all talking about FORESKIN!..I didn't know this was
> such a huge debate in our mothers group....try dad's or perv's or hell even
> SICKOO'S.alt...get a life, why are you discussing it!???
> Amanda
Infant circumcision is CHILD ABUSE!!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Because the stinking smegma sticks are a way of diverting attention from
> Iraq.
So you're a delusional little cunt who imagines that uncircumcised
penises are somehow "nasty" because you've never seen one, and who
thinks that every newsgroup is supposed to be talking about Iraq?
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> I though someone said there was no way to scrub 'em off.
That would be because, 1) you weren't paying attention, and
2) you're not too bright.
Steve
LaTreen Washington
I'm quite happy not to have an elephant trunk dangling between my legs.
You circumsized Steve? You should worry more about the part of your frontal
lobe and personality that they cut away, as opposed to your missing
foreskin.
Iraq... why ARE we there again? To bring down the price of gas or to catch
"Bin Hiding". Not doing to good at either, are we?
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R. Steve Walz
>
> "R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote in message
> news:449B72...@armory.com...
> > LaTreen Washington wrote:
> > >
> > > Because the stinking smegma sticks are a way of diverting attention from
> > > Iraq.
> > --------------
> > So you're a delusional little cunt who imagines that uncircumcised
> > penises are somehow "nasty" because you've never seen one, and who
> > thinks that every newsgroup is supposed to be talking about Iraq?
> > Steve
>
The plural of penis is penes, you illiterate.
> I'm quite happy not to have an elephant trunk dangling between my legs.
--------------------
You're stupid. I don't know anyone who does have.
> You circumsized Steve? You should worry more about the part of your frontal
> lobe and personality that they cut away, as opposed to your missing
> foreskin.
-----------------------
You're a shit-licking lying asshole.
> Iraq... why ARE we there again? To bring down the price of gas or to catch
> "Bin Hiding". Not doing to good at either, are we?
----------------------
Off topic. You are now shown to be delusional.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> "R. Steve Walz" <rst...@armory.com> wrote in message
> news:449B72...@armory.com...
> > LaTreen Washington wrote:
> > >
> > > I though someone said there was no way to scrub 'em off.
> > -----------------
> > That would be because, 1) you weren't paying attention, and
> > 2) you're not too bright.
> > Steve
>
> Why are you so obsessed with other people's tally-wackers?
Quit top-posting, it's rude and ignorant.
You post AFTER/BELOW previous quote, so that you are chronologically
in response to it, in the order we read pages, you illiterate cretin.
As for why: Infant circumcision is CHILD ABUSE!! And such crimes
against humanity are EVERYONE'S BUSINESS!!
Steve
LaTreen Washington
condone it.
Being subjected to rancid odors rising from the crotches of the unclean -
now THAT'S abuse!
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Einstein, the physiology of foreskin does not change! It reeks at 17,
and it will continue to reek at 71. The testimonials from Winding's
post run the entire age gamut. Once again, while penile hygiene is said
to protect against the complications of the uncircumcised state, there
is actually no study to show any benefits to penile hygiene, nor any
practical way to do such a study, considering the problem of
documenting scrupulous hygiene over long period of time. IOW, "Dirty
Johnny" can scrub his smelly putz like an incessant marsupial in the
wild, and it shall never prevent the production or accumulation of
smegma. "Dirty Johnny" is too busy being a kid to be concerned with
penile hygiene. All the more reason why circumcision is a necessity.
The parents of "Dirty Johnny" shouldn't have to teach him how to wash
his putz. The parents of "Dirty Johnny" shouldn't have to fondle his
putz, while checking to see if its clean. As Professor Brian Morris
once said: "For mothers and fathers, it is far easier to maintain
cleanliness of their son's penis if it is circumcised. If their son
isn't the messages are confusing: should they clean under the foreskin
or leave it alone?" It only becomes "the hard way," when parents choose
to forgo a simple, safe & beneficial circumcision.
R. Steve Walz
>
> It's hardly child abuse when millions of people allow it and major religions
> condone it.
That's a stupid rationale, we all know religions are the historically
MOST vicious, stupid, abusive and wrong of human organizations! They
are responsible for hate, wars, prejudices, and unnecessary guilt
and shame and are in cahoots with every power broker to control and
manipulate its slaves by lies and falsehood. What millions of assholes
"once" wrongly supported could fill all the possible annals of evil.
> Being subjected to rancid odors rising from the crotches of the unclean -
> now THAT'S abuse!
-------------------------------
You have a mental problem with natural odors.
You were improperly toilet-trained and made to be terrified
and shamed and guilty around sexuality and in response to normal
glandular pheromones. Your kind of misinformation about supposed
phony "diseases" from one's crotch is what causes allergies and
immune disorders in adults who were taught to wash their hands
interminably. The same bacteria hang out at the entrance as at
the exit, and most of them are beneficial!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Tom wrote:
> > Evidence that in some people, hygiene has to be learned the hard way.
> > Don't worry. When they start getting turned down for dates, or
> > horrifying a potential partner to the point where the person says
> > something and their feelings get hurt, they wise up fast. These are
> > mostly posts about young boys, who are just learning how to take care
> > of their bodies.
> > Do you really think that universal surgery is the answer? Do you think
> > that cutting is better than them learning the hard way?]
>
> Einstein, the physiology of foreskin does not change! It reeks at 17,
> and it will continue to reek at 71.
It smells just like a woman's pussy, and that terrifies you, probably
because you're a closet-job!!
Steve
catbert
Your foreskin stinks? Do you wash it? After sex/masturbating?
If you stink wash it. Just warm water and your clean hand will do
perfectly.
Also, it might be your pubic hair as well. That hair traps in odours,
dirt, and other nasty stuff. If you aren't cleaning the entire region
and your body for that matter, then you will smell bad and put lovers
and others off. Consider trimming or just shaving off your pubic hair
might just do the trick.
Also, consider changing your hair and body soap to an unsented or very
gentle types. You and your body doesn't need to smell too much of
anything.
C
R. Steve Walz
You don't seem to "get it". These clowns are promoting circumcision.
They will say ANYTHING to promote circumcision. They allege that NO
MATTER WHAT you do, the foreskin has to "smell" and they allege any
smell is "bad". Humans DO have smells, they are stimulating, and we
need them for arousal. This frightens these assholes. These assholes
are sexually deformed mentally and emotionally by vicious abusive
antisexual upbringing.
Steve
Falkner10
someone posted circinfo.net and said it was "accurate and unbiased."
not true. the man who runs it is highly opinionated and makes
ridiculous claims about those who oppose infant circumcision, including
claiming that they are all pedophiles. those quotes about smell were
from his site too, I wouldn't be surprised if he made them up.
http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13585.html
check that link out. it's a report by the American Medical Association
in which they evaluate every possible "benefit" of infant circumcision
after looking at 50+ studies, and conclude that each one is "not
justified."
Jake Waskett
> http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13585.html
>
> check that link out. it's a report by the American Medical Association
> in which they evaluate every possible "benefit" of infant circumcision
> after looking at 50+ studies, and conclude that each one is "not
> justified."
No they don't.
winding...@aol.com
Falkner10 wrote:
>
> someone posted circinfo.net and said it was "accurate and unbiased."
> not true. the man who runs it is highly opinionated and makes
> ridiculous claims about those who oppose infant circumcision, including
> claiming that they are all pedophiles.
That would be a disgraceful claim. Can you provide the exact quote
from "the man who runs it" claiming that those who oppose infant
circumcision are "all pedophiles"? Thank you.
>
> http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13585.html
>
> check that link out. it's a report by the American Medical Association
> in which they evaluate every possible "benefit" of infant circumcision
> after looking at 50+ studies, and conclude that each one is "not
> justified."
You must have given the wrong link because that is not a description of
the report you cited. Please check again and provide the correct link
as I would be interested to see it. Thank you.
R. Steve Walz
Of course they did, you lying sack of demented shit!!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Falkner10 wrote:
> >
> > someone posted circinfo.net and said it was "accurate and unbiased."
> > not true. the man who runs it is highly opinionated and makes
> > ridiculous claims about those who oppose infant circumcision, including
> > claiming that they are all pedophiles.
>
> That would be a disgraceful claim. Can you provide the exact quote
> from "the man who runs it" claiming that those who oppose infant
> circumcision are "all pedophiles"? Thank you.
We've heard you clowns make such a claim HERE.
How stupid you are!
Steve
Jake Waskett
Actually, they didn't. Try reading the link.
winding...@aol.com
That would be a disgraceful claim. Can you provide some examples?
Thank you.
R. Steve Walz
Of course they did, you just want to distort and shade meanings.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
Because you're disgraceful, and for no other reason.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Wrongo, Ringo! He clearly stated: "It has been suggested that quick sex
with an uncircumcised penis could favor homosexual sex in public
lavatories, with connotations regarding pedophilia. This is just
tempting speculation and the reader can make up their own mind." But
alas, thanks for engaging in the anti-circ tactic of lies & distortions
to facilitate your mad cult worship of that hideous scab 'o skin!.....
> http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/13585.html
> check that link out. it's a report by the American Medical Association
> in which they evaluate every possible "benefit" of infant circumcision
> after looking at 50+ studies, and conclude that each one is "not
> justified."
More lies from our scab scavenger (coined by yours truly!eh) upstairs:
"...EXISTING SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE DEMONSTRATES POTENTIAL MEDICAL
BENEFITS OF NEWBORN MALE CIRCUMCISION; however, these data are not
sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision. In circumstances
in which there are potential benefits and risks, yet the procedure is
not essential to the child's current well-being, parents should
determine what is in the best interest of the child. To make an
informed choice, parents of all male infants should be given accurate
and unbiased information and be provided the opportunity to discuss
this decision. If a decision for circumcision is made, procedural
analgesia should be provided."
Jake Waskett
No, I just want anti-circers like yourself to stop misrepresenting the
stated views of others.
R. Steve Walz
Ridiculous, the uncircumcised penis has nothing whatsoever to do with
sexual preference or pedophilia, and YOU'D be the one to spew THAT
kind of crap!!
Steve
darr...@aol.com
The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexuals. The
overwhelming majority of skin freaks are homosexuals. Combine the two
and do the math, shecky!
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be darr...@aol.com wrote
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<1151799337.5...@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:
>The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexuals.
No, actually not.
The majority of pedophiles cannot be said to have an adult preference
at all:
http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
<quote>
The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any
more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to
argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But
there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely
than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child
molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual
orientation at all; they are fixated on children.
</quote>
R. Steve Walz
Nonsense, the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are HETEROSEXUAL!
And the VAST majority of those against circumcision are HETEROSEXUAL!
This is because homosexuals are a VERY SMALL MINORITY of ANY group you
can mention! It is merely your twisted extreme delusion that pedophiles
are gay and are "coming to get your kids"!!
Steve
darr...@aol.com
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> someone claiming to be darr...@aol.com wrote
> in message
> <1151799337.5...@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexuals. >
> No, actually not.
> The majority of pedophiles cannot be said to have an adult preference
> at all:
> http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
Bull dreck! Pedophiles have specific predilections. If one chooses to
focus solely on males, one can logically assume that said pedophile is
attracted to the same sex. Otherwise, they could just as easily have
chosen the opposite sex. Heterosexuals are not attracted to men -
pedophile or otherwise.
elix...@yahoo.com.au
darr...@aol.com wrote:
> winding...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Nothing arouses the ire of the foreskin fiends more than the issue of
> > foreskin odor. This one really hits them where it hurts.
> >
> > One of our anti circ contributors here, who has never experienced
> > another mans foreskin, takes issue with the fact that they are often
> > smelly, despite their owners best attempts to keep them clean. So I
> > thought I would google the issue, and what a surfeit of riches I found!
> >
> > Here are a few search terms with the number of hits:
> >
> > Foreskin odor...........62,200
> > Foreskin stink..........32,200
> > Foreskin smell........217,000
> > Foreskin stench.......18,500
> > Revolting foreskin.....13,900
> > Stinking foreskin......15,600
> > Rancid foreskin........23,800
> > Disgusting foreskin...58,500
>
> LOL! A virtual menu of stink! eh It boggles the mind that the solution
> is right under their flaring nostrils! eh -D, NYC "If all 2,000,000
> boys born in the US annually were circumcised, the following would be
> prevented during their lifetimes: 7,000 cases of HIV, 10,000 cases of
> syphilis, 20,000 cases of pyeleonephritis, 2,000 with concurrent
> bacterema, 1,500 cases of hypertension, 150 cases of end stage renal
> disease, 2,000 cases of penile cancer, 200,000 cases of phimosis, and
> 250,000-500,000 cases of balanophimosis" - PROFESSOR BRIAN MORRIS, 30+
> years of unbias research on the benefits of circumcision.."Can I just
> talk about one other issue I had? I'm almost hesitant to say
> this...because I'm not gay...I'm not looking at other guys...but the
> whole uncircumcised thing..when they're doing close-ups...It's
> just...that's a whole other issue...it's just disgusting!" ehe - BABA
> BOOEY (aka Boy Gary Dell'Abate, I-talian, producer - Howard Stern
> (sweet circumcised Jew) show, commenting on having seen a recent porn)
>
> > I browsed through the hits from the first of the search terms above,
> > "foreskin odor", and set forth a fair sample of the complaints below.
> > Notice that several are from foreskinned men themselves, bemoaning
> > their inability to keep the thing clean. (I will be sure to sample
> > some of the other search terms above in the weeks ahead, and keep
> > everybody informed of my findings.)
> >
> > *********
> >
> > Hi, I'm 17 years old and I have a problem with my foreskin. Lately I
> > have noticed that my foreskin has an unusually unpleasant odor. I tired
> > washing it but as soon as I leave it unwashed for a day or so it gets
> > that smell again. I don't feel any pain it is only very unpleasant to
> > know that my foreskin is so smelly. What could be the cause of my
> > smelly foreskin, does it mean that I got some kind of a sexually
> > transmitted disease?
> >
> > ***********
> >
> > My husband is 26 years old and not circumsized, if that matters. We
> > have been together for 7 years and this has always been an issue as
> > long as I can remember. Basically he has a very strong odor or smell
> > coming from his penis. As far as I know (I have asked him about it) his
> > hygiene is good. But if he retracts his foreskin you can smell it
> > across a room. A large room. It is not a pleasant odor either. It is
> > causing some problems in our sex life and I am concerned that it is
> > hurting his career when coworkers smell him. I don't think he is
> > entirely aware of it.
> >
> > ***********
> >
> > For many men, the smell of the glans and foreskin, after the normal
> > course of the day's urination and smegma production, always remains
> > objectionable and despite washing in the shower each morning and again
> > after any ejaculation, there is that unmistakeable odor. Some men and
> > even less women, find this collection of odors to be erotic - to most
> > it's an embarrassment.
> >
> > **********
> >
> > I am 13, and uncut, when I roll back my foreskin, there is a smell, it
> > used to be nothing but its got abit worse, noticeably smellable -
> > slightly fishy *yes, its not that pleasant*
> > I am wondering why..I wash down there with soap everyday in the shower,
> > and a few times have tried actually getting a big blob of liquid soap
> > for hands and rubbed it all over, but a day or 2 later it goes back to
> > the smell - as if its like inside the skin.
> >
> > *********
> > This is going to sound bad. I am not circumcised and I keep getting a
> > bad smelling solid (kind of like tissue paper) under the foreskin. No
> > matter how many times I clean it off it reoccurs. Do I have some
> > disease or something? Signed: Bad Smell Under Foreskin
> >
> > *********
> >
> > Dear Condom Doc,
> >
> > My boyfriend is un-circumsized and sometimes his penis smells
> > unbelievably bad. Could his stanky penis be caused by his being
> > "uncut"?
> >
> > - Holding my nose
> >
> > *********
> >
> > I had a guy who came in for genital work and he was uncut. I was
> > getting everything ready and prepping him, and when I started cleaning
> > the area I could notice a bit of a smell. No biggy... But then when I
> > pulled his foreskin back I almost threw up.
> >
> >
> > *********
> >
> > I want to demand to you some questions about a big problem of sex I
> > have which cause me much embarassments in ..certain situations! I have
> > noticed that very often, when I taking back the skin of the head of the
> > cock I discover that is covered with white substance like cheese with
> > strong odor smelling bad. For this cause I have lot of embarassment
> > when I make the love because often I not want to be naked with the
> > women for the fear to not be clean_there!! A few years ago with a girl
> > that I went with, happened this: we were out in the country a evening
> > of the summer and she was excited very much and she become naked and
> > wanted that I am naked also. I did but I stayed with the my panties
> > on..but _she insisted very much and she taked them off because she
> > desired to take the cock in the mouth for to make me a ..(I do'nt know
> > the name in English) You know, if the cock is not in the erection the
> > skin cover the head...but at that point I could'nt have control myself
> > and I had the erection strongly for the excitation so the skin of the
> > cock come back and leaved the head discovered with this substance and a
> > odor very strong come out in air around! I am sure that the girl has
> > sniffed the bad odor, but she not telled me probably for not to cause
> > me the embarassement! I feeled so much shame and embarassement for
> > this!!
> >
> > ********
> >
> > A few times in grade school and around other girls at work I would
> > hearcomments of how nasty and smelly and ugly an uncut dick was. I
> > canremember one time when these two girls in my office were talking
> > aboutit and how they would never have sex with a uncut man and they
> > made gesturesand comments how gross it was, etc. Then, suddenly they
> > asked meif I was circumcised... I said "yes"... What was I going to
> > say afterthey had just bashed being uncut. I was so embarrassed.
> > Thesewere just some of the psychological factors. There are many,
> > manymore instances that I could tell you about. Another reason that
> > Ihated to be uncircumcised was the hygiene factor.
> >
> > This is also one of the big reasons I decided to get circumcised. I
> > could live with the psychological to a point but the hygiene factor
> > wasa big issue. Although I had a short foreskin which often moved
> > backand forth during daily movement I still had a odor from the smegma
> > sometimes. I know it sounds gross and nasty, this is because it is. I
> > was scaredto death that someone would smell it. It was a unsanitary
> > funky smellat times. I am sure you can ask any uncut man and he will
> > know whatyou are talking about. Yeah, some anti-circumcision people
> > say.."why can you just clean it and take a shower and use soap, etc".
> > That is just not going to cut it. As any uncircumcised man
> > knows,sometimes you can't do much about it. It will just smell
> > sometimes. For example, one time it was so bad I almost died from
> > humiliation. I was standing at a urinal next to one of my coworkers and
> > I took my dickout to go to urinate and I pulled my foreskin back as
> > usual and I smelledit. I was so embarrassed. I was praying that the
> > guy next to me didnot smell it too. Keep in mind this was just a few
> > hours after I showered.
> >
> > ***********
> >
> > Studies of present-day English homosexuals reveal that, unlike their
> > American counterparts, whose primary method of contact is fellatio,
> > they prefer genital apposition or very close body contact without
> > penetration as a means to achieve ejaculation. The terms "rub off"
> > or "slicklegging" are usually used to describe their practices. The
> > distinct preference of Americans for fellatio may be due in part to the
> > universal practice of infant circumcision in the United States. In
> > countries where the practice is rare, the accumulation of sebaceous
> > secretions beneath the foreskin and the resultant odor might render
> > olfactory and penile proximity distasteful and induce uncircumcised
> > Englishmen to restrict themselves to other manners of sexual
> > gratification.
> >
> > **********
> >
> > "The difference between cut and uncut. uncut male if he does not keep
> > the foreskin clean gets what is called smegma underneath the foreskin .
> > A cut male cannot. And yes, look it up smegma- it is a word and is
> > gross when you come acrossed it. That is why a prefer cut males."
> >
> > **********
> >
> > I have to agree with you, "hidden treasure," regarding smegma. I know
> > from experience with my former foreskin. Smegma producion is a non-stop
> > process. Odor appears within an hour of even a thorough cleansing.
> >
> >
> > *********
> >
> > At the insistence of a woman I dated for several years, I was
> > circumcised. Her doctor, a woman is very pro-circ for the health
> > benefits. She gave me a very thorough circumcision.
> > Cleanliness and odor, as well as smegma are worries of the past.
> >
> > *********
> > Dear Experts,
> >
> > My boyfriend is uncircumcised and his penis sometimes has a bad odor.
> > is this normal?
> >
> > *********
> >
> > I just wanted to add my comments to your circumcision page. I'm a 45 yr
> > old married woman, but before I married I was very sexually active with
> > a number of men.
> > I spent a summer in Europe, and dated a few men who were uncircumcised.
> > It is something I would never do again, and in fact when I met my
> > husband I asked him point blank if he was cut or uncut, for if he were
> > uncut, I would not have wanted to marry him.
> > An uncut man, no matter how much he bathes, cannot get rid of that
> > awful smegma odor...there is always a faint smell of it, even if he
> > just showered a few hours ago.
> > I was totally unprepared when I spent the summer in Europe...until
> > then, I did not know that most European men are uncut! I assumed they
> > were like American men. It was a very rude awakening.
> >
> >
> > **********
> >
> > I get a pungent odor from my penis almost daily. i notice it more of i
> > have had precum during the day from thinking about sex. i use an
> > antibacterial soap every day and it still happens. it has been like
> > this for about 6 years now.. nevr noticed it before..i pee after
> > ejaculating and always use antibacterial soap.. any ideas?.. i am very
> > clean, seriously.. i am also uncut,that is why i have always been a
> > cleaner.
> >
> > **********
> >
> >
> > I pull the cheese out of my foreskin, smear it along the length of my
> > cock. I can smell the rich odor even in the reek of that bar.
> >
> > *********
> >
> > He told me his knob was really dirty, but that's the way he knew I'd
> > like it. He'd read my ad, and sensed I was bent on tasting a really
> > ripe foreskin. He said he NEVER bothered to wash his, and it was FULL
> > of what I wanted. Then he stuck his big uncut dick right in front of my
> > face.
> >
> > Wow! He wasn't kidding--what a raunchy smell!
> >
> > There was a strong stench of stale piss--like a dirty boghouse. And
> > there was another mouthwatering smell--that pungent cockhead odor was
> > unmistakable. Now, inches from my mouth was what I craved for most,
> > more than anything - a REALLY CHEESY COCK!
> >
> > My heart pounded. I knew what was in store for me under that unwashed
> > foreskin. I sensed the smegma was really thick under there! I peeled
> > back the pink skin, hungry for its contents.
> >
> > As I did, the smell increased, and to my delight, pieces of smelly
> > white cock cheese started to appear. As I went on peeling that uncut
> > juicy dick. I couldn't believe my luck--the entire cockhead was
> > completely covered with a stinking mass of delicious cock cheese, and
> > loads more was caked around the end of the head, in between the folds
> > of the loaded foreskin.
> >
> > ********
> >
> > I dated two guys who were uncut (one in the US and on in Europe), and
> > let me tell you I would NEVER do that again. No matter how clean they
> > were, the odor remained. I think men who are uncut dont notice it, and
> > women who are used to uncut men dont notice it, but its THERE.
> >
> >
> > *******
> >
> > Any suggestions, my foreskins hangs over about 1.5" when I'm
> > erect...it's very loose (from stretching it when I was going through
> > puberty), and no matter how often I wash, I always seem to have that
> > musky odor.
> >
> > *******
> >
> > I love to play with the foreskin when I give him oral sex, too. ...
> > really care for him and I want to do these things, but I'm really
> > repelled by the odor
> >
> > ******
> >
> > I dated only one guy who was uncut, but I had a male friend also, who
> > was uncut (an American). You could smell him through his clothing after
> > he came back from a run. I didnt realize what that odor was un tiul I
> > went to the UK and smelled it again (albeit not anywhere near as bad)
> > on the guy I dated.
> > I think its a lot like cigarette smoke...smokers and those used to
> > being with them dont notice the smell because they are used to it. But
> > I have had uncut male friends (other than the guy I mentioned who was
> > runner) admit to me that no matter how much they wash, a faint odor
> > remains (I guess girlfriends mentioned it?)
> >
> > *******
> >
> > It was not until my teens that I noticed that my penis would develop an
> > 'smell', to put it one way. Despite morning showers, by the afternoon
> > my penis would start to develop a slight odour, not strong, and not
> > noticeable to others, but noticeable to me. If I missed a shower, say
> > because I was camping, the odour grew stronger, and in cases such as
> > these smegma would start to build up under the foreskin rather quickly.
> > As a result, where possible I would wash twice a day. I noticed while
> > living in Europe (where circumcision is in the minority), that many men
> > would have a strong odour, like the one I was familiar with, in winter.
> >
> > ********
Time, darrin, to get interested in something else. You need something
else to occupy your brain.
R. Steve Walz
>
> Roger wrote:
> > No, actually not.
> > The majority of pedophiles cannot be said to have an adult preference
> > at all:
> > http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
>
> Bull dreck! Pedophiles have specific predilections. If one chooses to
> focus solely on males, one can logically assume that said pedophile is
> attracted to the same sex. Otherwise, they could just as easily have
> chosen the opposite sex. Heterosexuals are not attracted to men -
> pedophile or otherwise.
Nope, that's rank ignorance. Pedophiles are fixated independently by
their fixated focus object, which is not at ALL the same as a sexual
preference, as these poor damaged people don't truly have one, yet,
as they are developmentally delayed. Their focus is produced by their
early traumas, and the focus object actually represents themselves
and reliving their trauma like a broken record!
Steve
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be darr...@aol.com wrote
in message
>Roger wrote:
>> >The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexuals. >
>> No, actually not.
>> The majority of pedophiles cannot be said to have an adult preference
>> at all:
>> http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
>Bull dreck! Pedophiles have specific predilections. If one chooses to
>focus solely on males, one can logically assume that said pedophile is
>attracted to the same sex.
No, one can assume zie is attracted to children.
>Otherwise, they could just as easily have
>chosen the opposite sex. Heterosexuals are not attracted to men -
>pedophile or otherwise.
Demonstrably wrong -- did you even read the source I cited?
darr...@aol.com
> In one age, called the Second Age by some,
> (an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
> someone claiming to be darr...@aol.com wrote
> in message
> <1151811015.6...@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >Roger wrote:
>
> >> >The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexuals. >
>
> >> No, actually not.
> >> The majority of pedophiles cannot be said to have an adult preference
> >> at all:
> >> http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
>
> >Bull dreck! Pedophiles have specific predilections. If one chooses to
> >focus solely on males, one can logically assume that said pedophile is
> >attracted to the same sex.
>
> No, one can assume zie is attracted to children.
>
> >Otherwise, they could just as easily have
> >chosen the opposite sex. Heterosexuals are not attracted to men -
> >pedophile or otherwise.>
> Demonstrably wrong -- did you even read the source I cited?
That I did! Now please read the following:
By Jon Dougherty
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among
homosexuals
than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new
study.
"Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a
sexual
deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for
our
culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual
Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
Baldwin is the executive director of the Council for National Policy in
Washington, D.C.
"It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture
without
appearing harsh," wrote Baldwin. "However, it is time to acknowledge
that
homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization -
the
nuclear family."
Though the homosexual community and much of the media scoff at such
accusations, Baldwin - who chaired the California Assembly's Education
committee, where he fought against support for the homosexual agenda in
the
state's public schools - says in his report that homosexual activists'
"efforts to target children both for their own sexual pleasure and to
enlarge the homosexual movement" constitute an "unmistakable" attack on
"the
family unit."
Baldwin's research is substantiated in a recently completed body of
work
written by Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media
Education and author of numerous authoritative books debunking sexual
myths,
including "Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences."
In her thesis - also written for the Regent University Law Review -
Reisman
cited psychologist Eugene Abel, whose research found that homosexuals
"sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from
five
times greater than the molestation of girls. ."
Abel also found that non-incarcerated "child molesters admitted from
23.4 to
281.7 acts per offender . whose targets were males."
"The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is
staggering," said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an
$800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and
violence.
"Abel's data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no
equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls."
Jay Heavener, spokesman for PFLAG - Parents, Families and Friends of
Lesbians and Gays, counters that federal crime data refute claims that
homosexuals molest children at higher rates than heterosexuals.
"According to data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), this
claim is false," he told WND by e-mail. "The gay and lesbian community
calls
into question any dubious research which flies in the face of our own
experience."
And Gary Schoener, a clinical psychologist who has been diagnosing and
treating clergy abuse for 28 years, told Salon.com, "There are far more
heterosexual cases than homosexual."
In terms of sheer numbers, that may be true. But in terms of numbers of
children abused per offender, homosexuals abuse with far greater
frequency;
and boys, research shows, are the much-preferred target.
Baldwin says evidence he examined disproves the assertion that child
molestation is more prevalent among heterosexuals. Both he and Reisman
found
that media coverage of adult homosexual abuse of minors is also
slanted.
"The National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (NLGJA) recently
boasted that although homosexuals are less than two percent of the
population, three-fourths of the people who decide the content of the
front
page of the New York Times are homosexual," Reisman wrote.
That one fact is especially noteworthy, experts point out, given the
recent
child sex scandals taking place within the American Catholic church.
A survey by WorldNetDaily of recent news reports found that rarely did
the
media describe priestly sexual abuse as "homosexual" or "gay" activity
-
even though the worst incidents involved male-to-male contact, and a
spate
of investigative reports has revealed that the Vatican is concerned
about an
upsurge of homosexuals in seminary schools throughout the world.
Gay press promotes sex with children
Baldwin says his research not only "confirms that homosexuals molest
children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals," but it found that
"the
mainstream homosexual culture" even "commonly promotes sex with
children."
"The editorial board of the leading pedophile academic journal,
Paidika, is
dominated by prominent homosexual scholars such as San Francisco State
University professor John DeCecco, who happens to edit the Journal of
Homosexuality," Baldwin wrote.
During his research, he also found:
The Journal of Homosexuality recently published a special double-issue
entitled, "Male Intergenerational Intimacy," containing many articles
portraying sex between men and minor boys as loving relationships. One
article said parents should look upon the pedophile who loves their son
"not
as a rival or competitor, not as a theft of their property, but as a
partner
in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home."
In 1995 the homosexual magazine "Guide" said, "We can be proud that the
gay
movement has been home to the few voices who have had the courage to
say out
loud that children are naturally sexual" and "deserve the right to
sexual
expression with whoever they choose. ." The article went on to say:
"Instead
of fearing being labeled pedophiles, we must proudly proclaim that sex
is
good, including children's sexuality . we must do it for the children's
sake."
Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group,
wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS
Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their
homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that
often,
very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits
it."
In a study of advertisements in the influential homosexual newspaper,
The
Advocate, Reisman found ads for a "Penetrable Boy Doll . available in
three
provocative positions. She also found that the number of erotic boy
images
in each issue of The Advocate averaged 14.
Homosexual newspapers and travel publications advertise prominently for
countries where boy prostitution is heavy, such as Burma, the
Philippines,
Sri Lanka and Thailand. Homosexuality 'youth-oriented'?
"Research on the homosexual lifestyle confirms it is almost exclusively
a
youth-oriented culture," Baldwin wrote. "Very few gays exhibit
preference
for older men."
"Some admit to focus on teenage boys," he said, "some on prepubescent
boys,
and many cross over between categories."
A 1988 study detailed in Baldwin's report found that most pedophiles
even
consider themselves to be "gay." According to the study, "Archives of
Sexual
Behavior," some 86 percent of pedophiles described themselves as
homosexual
or bisexual. Also, the study found, the number of teenage male
prostitutes
who identify as homosexuals has risen from 10 percent to 60 percent in
the
past 15 years.
When asked what he thought about critics who attempt to debunk his
research,
Baldwin said the results speak for themselves.
"For them to say this theory is false is to call many of the homosexual
movement's leaders liars," he said. "Most of my evidence comes right
from
the gay community."
"I managed to find enough evidence that my thesis - child molestation
is an
integral part of the homosexual movement - is a valid thesis," Baldwin
told
WorldNetDaily.
Other experts have also found a distinct pattern between child sex
abusers
and the incidence of homosexuality.
"How long can psychologists be in denial about the significance of the
dark
side, and ignore what it implies about the homosexual condition? And
there's
a matter of even greater concern. How long will psychologists eagerly
throw
open the door to gay life for every sexually confused teenager?" writes
Joseph Nicolosi, Ph.D, on behalf of NARTH - the National Association
for
Research and Therapy of Homosexuality - a group that says it exists to
"provide psychological understanding of the cause, treatment and
behavior
patterns associated with homosexuality, within the boundaries of a
civil
public dialogue."
The North American Man-Boy Love Association, or NAMBLA, is "a group
that
openly promotes sex with minor boys and claims that boy-lovers respond
to
the needs of the boys they love," Baldwin said in his report.
The group is often endorsed by "many of the homosexual movement's most
prominent leaders," he said.
Advocacy moving to schools
Promotion of the "gay and lesbian lifestyle" is increasing in the
nation's
public schools.
A WND survey of homosexual-oriented websites found that almost every
group
has some sort of program to "educate" teachers, school administrators
and
other school employees about the homosexual lifestyle:
GLSEN - the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network - bills itself
as
"the largest national network of parents, students, educators and
others"
specifically formed to end "discrimination based on sexual orientation
and
gender identity/expression in K-12 schools. Two recent press released
boasted of the Broward County (Fla.) school board approving
GLSEN-sponsored
"training for teachers."
A student activist working with GLSEN officials has managed to "give
voice"
recently to "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered students" at
California schools;
PFLAG has created a national campaign called, "From Our House to the
Schoolhouse," distributing to school officials - among other materials
- a
booklet entitled, "Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation and Youth: A
Primer For Principals, Educators, & School Personnel. [Editor's note:
Readers need the Adobe PDF reader to open and read this file.]
Though most school-related programs are sold to administrators and
parents
as programs designed simply to end persecution of homosexuals and
lesbians,
none disclose what Baldwin says is compelling evidence that
homosexuality is
harmful to children.
"What . does the academic literature say about the relationship between
homosexuality and child molestation? Quite a bit, actually," he wrote,
quoting data compiled by the Family Research Institute: "Scientific
studies
confirm a strong pedophilic predisposition among homosexuals."
The institute, after reviewing more than 19 studies and peer-reviewed
reports in a 1985 "Psychological Reports" article, found that
homosexuals
account for between 25 and 40 percent of all child molestation.
"But this number is low," Baldwin says, "due to the fact that many
reporters
will not report if a child molester is a homosexual, even if he knows
that
to be the case."
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be darr...@aol.com wrote
in message
>Roger wrote:
>> >> >The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexuals. >
>> >> No, actually not.
>> >> The majority of pedophiles cannot be said to have an adult preference
>> >> at all:
>> >> http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
>> >Bull dreck! Pedophiles have specific predilections. If one chooses to
>> >focus solely on males, one can logically assume that said pedophile is
>> >attracted to the same sex.
>> No, one can assume zie is attracted to children.
>> >Otherwise, they could just as easily have
>> >chosen the opposite sex. Heterosexuals are not attracted to men -
>> >pedophile or otherwise.>
>> Demonstrably wrong -- did you even read the source I cited?
>That I did! Now please read the following:
>
>By Jon Dougherty
>Š 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
>
>Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among
>homosexuals
>than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new
>study.
"On a per-capita basis."
Not your original claim.
Nor can anyone citing paul cameron be taken seriously.
But then, you knew this since you edited out that citation, which in
the original reads:
<quote>
What then does the academic literature say about the relationship
between homosexuality and child molestation? Quite a bit, actually.
Scientific studies confirm a strong pedophilic predisposition among
homosexuals. Family Research Institute founder and psychologist Paul
Cameron, reviewing more than nineteen different academic reports and
peer reviewed studies in a 1985 Psychological Reports article, found
that homosexuals account for between 25% and 40% of all child
molestation.
</quote>
>"Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a
>sexual
>deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for
>our
>culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual
>Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
... after having been turned down by Stanford. No, wait -- that was a
lie told by baldwin.
Who then changed his story to being turned down by the Stanford Law
and Policy Review. But wait: that was a lie. too.
Now, would you care to actually address the quote below?
>> >> <quote>
>> >>
>> >> The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any
>> >> more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to
>> >> argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But
>> >> there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely
>> >> than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child
>> >> molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual
>> >> orientation at all; they are fixated on children.
>> >>
>> >> </quote>
And this is, as the article documents, supported by *real* research,
not warmed over crap from cameron, reisman, and nicolosi.