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princess leia

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Mar 24, 2002, 2:46:54 PM3/24/02
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i posted this once before, but never saw it come up on the board. i'm
trying again, so please excuse me if you've seen this one before.

my daughter's wonderful pediatrician is moving far away, and we are so
bummed. we were lucky to find her in the first place. she never blinked an
eye when i told her lei sleeps with us, nurses constantly, and we never let
her cry it out.

there's no one else in her office that fits the bill. i have a HUGE list of
peds from my health insurance, but how in the world do i find out if they're
pro AP? when you call these places, you never get to talk to the doc
herself. and it seems like a very time-consuming chore to go and meet each
one of them until i find one that's pro AP.

any suggestions?

thanks in advance!!!!!

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David desJardins

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Mar 24, 2002, 5:09:21 PM3/24/02
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"princess leia" <le...@leia.com> writes:
> there's no one else in her office that fits the bill. i have a HUGE
> list of peds from my health insurance, but how in the world do i find
> out if they're pro AP?

Why do you care? I go to the doctor for my child's medical care, not
for them to tell me how to raise my children.

David desJardins

Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.

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Mar 24, 2002, 6:32:35 PM3/24/02
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[posted and mailed]

Leia - where are you located?

David - to answer your question (essentially 'why do you care, pedis are
for medical, not parenting advice) - I can say that it is sometimse *very*
hard to get the *pedi* to distinguish between the two. :-(

We are *very* lucky to have a *VERY* supportive pedi (supports extended
breastfeeding, family bedding, and informed medical (including
immunization) decisions); we have a lot of friends who have found their
relationship with their pediatrician to be a struggle because the pedi has
some very strict ideas about what is "right" and "wrong", and what their
(the pedis) role is as an advisor. :-(


Anne

I am: Mom, Attorney, Professor, Advocate for Fathers and Against Spam
http://www.annepmitchell.com
Resources on intuitive parenting, breastfeeding, co-sleeping, and more
http://www.intuitiveparenting.org

princess leia

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Mar 24, 2002, 6:32:36 PM3/24/02
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"David desJardins" <de...@math.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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Why do you care? I go to the doctor for my child's medical care, not
> for them to tell me how to raise my children

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i've just noticed that people in general that are pro-AP are the kinder,
gentler folks. my daughter's pediatrician was so gentle, and so loving
toward my daughter. and when my daughter started to become afraid of the
exam table, her pediatrician from then on did her exams with my daughter
sitting on my lap. my girlfriend's daughter's ped.'s response to the same
situation was to physically hold the girl down while explaining to the
mother that you have to ignore them when they throw tantrums.

sure, i can find a ped. that is not pro-AP or who doesn't even know what it
is who is still a kind and gentle person. sure, i can pick one that seems
nice and just have to learn from experience with them. i was just hoping by
some miracle that someone knew of a link that listed pro-AP physicians or
happened to know a medical group that tended towards that.

in the end, i have a feeling i'm still going to be doing the pediatrician
interview circuit.


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princess leia

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Mar 25, 2002, 9:28:32 AM3/25/02
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whoops! i meant to include my location in my initial post. i am in the los
angeles area. if anyone is familiar with it, i am in the san fernando
valley.

thanks for any help you can give.


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Sarah

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Mar 25, 2002, 9:28:19 AM3/25/02
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In the town we live in we only had 2 choices. I figured we would just start
with one and if we didn't like that one, try the other. When DS was first
born we had a Pedi in a large practice and never saw the same dr twice. It
wasn't AP at all and we had some issues. When we moved I was worried since
it was a small town and there weren't many options. For the most part I am
happy with our choice. It is just one Dr and she isn't available all the
time (how could she be?) She has always been very nice and wonderful during
visits, but once when I had to call off hours she was a little gruff. I
know that she isn't really AP because she gave us literature on the Ferber
method and always looks at me funny when I tell her we are still
breastfeeding, but at least she keeps her comments to herself. She has been
pretty helpful with our vaccine wishes and so for now I don't have any real
issues. Since her practice is so small and I hope to have 4 children
eventually I figure she will see alot of me and get to know how we raise our
kids. I think she likes that my husband goes to all visits with us. He has
never missed one. I have never seen another man in her office. But to
answer your real question I have a couple of thoughts. Try to find a group
of AP parents in your area and ask them who they recommend. And on the same
note as David mentioned, while it is important to find a Dr that is similar
in your views, as long as you have one that will accept your views and not
criticize, perhaps that might be the best you can hope for. Did your old
Pedi have any suggestions for a replacement?

--
Sarah


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Mary A. Samios

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Mar 25, 2002, 11:30:52 AM3/25/02
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I never had to look -- I always simply "fell in" with pediatricians who
respected my parenting decisions. The only practical advice I would have to
offer would be to talk to other parents whom you know and respect in your
area, and see who they recommend. Another option is to set appointments
with various pediatricians, and essentially interview them. You will have
to pay for their time, but it might be worth the dent in your pocket book.
And finally, if you can't find a pediatrician who meshes with your parenting
style, then do your utmost to separating parenting from health issues,
whenever possible. And maybe try to view the occasions as opportunities to
educate the doctor.

It's hard to leave a good doctor behind. Even though I am please with the
doctors my children are currently seeing, I still miss Dr. Litwak -- and
Lili still talks about him, too. He was incredible.

Good luck!

Mary
mom to Lili, Jenny, and Jack

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Emily Roysdon

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Mar 25, 2002, 5:00:23 PM3/25/02
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"princess leia" wrote:

| i posted this once before, but never saw it come up on the board. i'm
| trying again, so please excuse me if you've seen this one before.

It's the first time I've seen it, so thank you for resending. Sometimes
things get stuck in the moderator's queue.

| my daughter's wonderful pediatrician is moving far away, and we are so
| bummed. we were lucky to find her in the first place. she never blinked
an
| eye when i told her lei sleeps with us, nurses constantly, and we never
let
| her cry it out.

It's always good to not have to fight those battles with your healthcare
provider, and be able to have an honest rapport, isn't it?

| there's no one else in her office that fits the bill. i have a HUGE list
of
| peds from my health insurance, but how in the world do i find out if
they're
| pro AP? when you call these places, you never get to talk to the doc
| herself. and it seems like a very time-consuming chore to go and meet
each
| one of them until i find one that's pro AP.
|
| any suggestions?

I'm of two schools of thought on this. First, ask your doctor who she would
recommend. Also, if you are part of LLL or know a midwife, get input as to
who the crunchiest doc in town is. My midwife knew the dirt on many of the
practices locally, and it's helped me a lot when giving breastfeeding advice
to women around town, because I know if their doctor has a clue or not. If
you can't find any AP, you may have to change your mindset a bit, as I have,
and look at your doctor as strictly a medical practitioner. I don't go to
him for advice on parenting issues, nor will I discuss sleeping, extended
breastfeeding, etc., and there are no issues. While it would be nice to
have a doctor who was as pro-AP as I am, I'm more comfortable keeping my
relationship with the kids' medical provider (whom they only see when very
ill anyway) one of doctor-patient rather than parenting guru-disciple.

Good Luck!


--
Emily Roysdon,
mama to Noah Joshua (4/8/98) & Rebekah Grace, born at home (6/16/00)
http://emily.roysdon.net

Stonering

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Mar 28, 2002, 7:31:56 AM3/28/02
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princess leia proclaimed in
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>there's no one else in her office that fits the bill. i have a HUGE list of
>peds from my health insurance, but how in the world do i find out if they're
>pro AP? when you call these places, you never get to talk to the doc
>herself. and it seems like a very time-consuming chore to go and meet each
>one of them until i find one that's pro AP.
>
>any suggestions?

Ask her for recommendations outside her office. She's bound to know
something about some of the other ped's in the area. Also try asking
during the chat time after a LLLI meeting - other mom's there might
know someone, and might know what attachment parenting is. :-)
--
Stonering ston...@knowledge1.com
doula, birth radical, parent
keeper of sheep and goats

I'd prefer peace.

princess leia

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Mar 28, 2002, 7:22:22 PM3/28/02
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she did recommend one person outside of her office, but i'd already met with
her before leia was born and neither my dh nor i liked her.

LLL is a great suggestion though! thanks!!


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