Creepy !
Lucianarchy
if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass of milk, go away
for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has 'crept' its way
to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see this happen.
Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what happens?
--
" .... Y'know, I think I recognise your face,
..... but I've never seen you before."
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Dan Pressnell
http://www.egroups.com/group/spooky-stuff
Dan
PZ Myers
<dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
>This is so stupid it's going into the SPOOKY STUFF archive at
>http://www.egroups.com/group/spooky-stuff
I am also amazed at how stupid this was, but then I noticed the name of the
author.
>
>Dan
>
>
>Lucianarchy wrote:
>>
>> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass
of milk, go away
>> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has
'crept' its way
>> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>>
>> Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see this happen.
>>
>> Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what happens?
Being an omnivore who rather likes liver, I wouldn't want to waste a decent
cut of meat by leaving it out for 45 minutes like that. That's enough time
for a couple of division cycles by bacteria. Yuck.
Dina O'Grogan
I think you were deeply scarred by the whole Jello thing --- you need to get
in touch with your feelings about that episode...
~D~
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Before you buy.
Lucianarchy
> In article <382E6D72...@ns.vvm.com>, Dan Pressnell
> <dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
>
> >This is so stupid it's going into the SPOOKY STUFF archive at
> >http://www.egroups.com/group/spooky-stuff
>
> I am also amazed at how stupid this was, but then I noticed the name of the
> author.
"All truth passes through 3 stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Schopenhauer
> >Lucianarchy wrote:
> >>
> >> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129 http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
> >> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass of milk, go away
> >> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has 'crept' its way
> >> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
> >>
> >> Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see this happen.
> >>
> >> Anyone care to do this experiment and let us know what happens?
>
> Being an omnivore who rather likes liver, I wouldn't want to waste a decent
> cut of meat by leaving it out for 45 minutes like that.
Considering you're a Professor of Biology, that's the weakest excuse for not
undertaking an experiment I have *ever* seen.
> That's enough time for a couple of division cycles by bacteria. Yuck.
Maybe they're getting thirsty...
Dan Pressnell
> > I am also amazed at how stupid this was, but then I noticed the name of the
> > author.
>
> "All truth passes through 3 stages.
> First, it is ridiculed.
> Second, it is violently opposed.
> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Schopenhauer
So let us know when walking liver becomes self-evident.
And notice that your stupidity is already in the third phase.
Dan
PZ Myers
<kle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <myers-14119...@ppp117.blackbox1-mfs.netaxs.com>,
> my...@netaxs.com (PZ Myers) wrote:
>> In article <382E6D72...@ns.vvm.com>, Dan Pressnell
>> <dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
>>
>> >This is so stupid it's going into the SPOOKY STUFF archive at
>> >http://www.egroups.com/group/spooky-stuff
>>
>> I am also amazed at how stupid this was, but then I noticed the name of the
>> author.
>>
>> >
>> >Dan
>> >
>> >
>> >Lucianarchy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
>> http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>> >> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass
>> of milk, go away
>> >> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has
>> 'crept' its way
>> >> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>> >>
>> >> Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see this happen.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what happens?
>>
>> Being an omnivore who rather likes liver, I wouldn't want to waste a decent
>> cut of meat by leaving it out for 45 minutes like that. That's enough time
>> for a couple of division cycles by bacteria. Yuck.
>>
>
>I think you were deeply scarred by the whole Jello thing --- you need to get
>in touch with your feelings about that episode...
>
That's true -- I was sooooo disappointed, and now I'm afraid to see my
hopes dashed again.
OK. Next time I fix liver, I'll slice off a little fragment and put it near
a glass of milk to see what happens. I'll feel really stupid, but I'll do
it anyway.
Of course, now what I need to know is...whole or skim? Does it make a
difference?
Lou Minatti™
>
> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129 http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass of milk, go away
> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has 'crept' its way
> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
What kind of liver? Cow liver? Goose liver? I can think of a "psychic"
whose liver could slither towards a bottle of cheap scotch!
--
Prepare to be spooked!
http://www.watchingyou.com
Try explaining Ed Wollman to a kid.
Sara Salzman
>Lucianarchy wrote:
>>
>> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass
of milk, go away
>> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has
'crept' its way
>> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>
>What kind of liver? Cow liver? Goose liver? I can think of a "psychic"
>whose liver could slither towards a bottle of cheap scotch!
>
Hmm... does the name Giwer sound right?
--
"I am an agitator, and an agitator is the center
post in a washing machine that gets the dirt out."
Jim Hightower
Lou Minatti™
>
> In article <382F42...@yahoo.com>, loumi...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Lucianarchy wrote:
> >>
> >> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
> http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
> >> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass
> of milk, go away
> >> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has
> 'crept' its way
> >> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
> >
> >What kind of liver? Cow liver? Goose liver? I can think of a "psychic"
> >whose liver could slither towards a bottle of cheap scotch!
> >
> Hmm... does the name Giwer sound right?
Nope. I was thinking of a deranged "psychic", not a deranged neo-nazi.
The "psychic" I'm thinking of was a truly vile person, but he wasn't a
racist.
Garrison Hilliard
>
> From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
>
>In article <382F42...@yahoo.com>, loumi...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>Lucianarchy wrote:
>>>
>>> According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
>http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>>> if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away from a glass
>of milk, go away
>>> for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the liver has
>'crept' its way
>>> to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>>
>>What kind of liver? Cow liver? Goose liver? I can think of a "psychic"
>>whose liver could slither towards a bottle of cheap scotch!
>>
>Hmm... does the name Giwer sound right?
No, but the infamous nomenclature of Earl Gordon Curley rings true.
Jim Phillips
> PZ Myers <my...@netaxs.com> wrote
> > In article <382E6D72...@ns.vvm.com>, Dan Pressnell
> > <dpre...@ns.vvm.com> wrote:
> >
> > >This is so stupid it's going into the SPOOKY STUFF archive at
> > >http://www.egroups.com/group/spooky-stuff
> >
> > I am also amazed at how stupid this was, but then I noticed the name of the
> > author.
>
> "All truth passes through 3 stages.
> First, it is ridiculed.
> Second, it is violently opposed.
> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Schopenhauer
"And then there's goofy shit, which never gets past stage 1." --
Vincent Gruber, Schopenhauer's neighbor
--
Jim Phillips, jphi...@bcpl.net
"Once again decent citizens will be able to enter this house of
worship, kneel down in front of a nearly-naked man hanging from a wooden
apparatus by a series of gruesome body piercings, and engage in their
bizarre practices of ritualized blood-drinking and cannibalism without
being assaulted by graphic images of attractive young women with bare
breasts". -- A. Whitney Brown, "The Daily Show"
Tim Stevens
'psychic' and 'psychotic' are to one another. Giwer would have been my first
guess as well (although enough has been posted on Curley to make the two to
seem like clones in some respects).
Tim
********** We have met the enemy and he is us - Pogo **********
Keith Morrison
>
> > I am also amazed at how stupid this was, but then I noticed the name of the
> > author.
>
> "All truth passes through 3 stages.
> First, it is ridiculed.
> Second, it is violently opposed.
> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." -- Schopenhauer
"All kooks pass through 3 stages.
First, they make silly claims with no evidence.
Second, ignore any evidence to the contrary.
Third, they quote famous people in a pathetically transparent
attempt to distract people from noticing that they've just
passed through stages one and two."
- Me
--
Keith
Ian H Spedding
Lucianarchy wrote in message
<80lq92$qca$1...@lure.pipex.net>...
>According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away
from a glass of milk, go away
>for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the
liver has 'crept' its way
>to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>
this happen.
>
>Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what
happens?
Tried it.
You know what, in _less_ than 45 minutes my cat crept its
way up to the liver and ate it - so I drank the glass of
milk.
Spooky or what?
I can only assume that whoever performed the original
experiments must have been a scientist of a rather different
kidney.
(Cue cascade of absolutely offal puns)
Ian H Spedding
Robert Templeton
Ian H Spedding <iansp...@picklesnet.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:80ps03$cqc$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk...
I think that the original performer may have neglected to tell us that he
performed the experiment - take your pick - on a ship in rough seas, during
an earthquake, on an inclined plane (very scientific, you know), with a
fishing string hooked into the liver on one side of the glass and to a cat
on the other side of the glass.
PZ Myers
<iansp...@picklesnet.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Lucianarchy wrote in message
><80lq92$qca$1...@lure.pipex.net>...
>>According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
>http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>>if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away
>from a glass of milk, go away
>>for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the
>liver has 'crept' its way
>>to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>>
>>Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see
>this happen.
>>
>>Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what
>happens?
>
>
>Tried it.
>
>You know what, in _less_ than 45 minutes my cat crept its
>way up to the liver and ate it - so I drank the glass of
>milk.
Oooh. Fortunately, I have a cat who doesn't seem to care for
red meat much at all. If this experiment required tuna, though,
it would never work. Or do you think tuna would need to be put in
a pot of water so it would swim towards the milk?
>
>Spooky or what?
>
>I can only assume that whoever performed the original
>experiments must have been a scientist of a rather different
>kidney.
Or had a gutless cat that lacked the stomach for theft.
>
>(Cue cascade of absolutely offal puns)
What puns? Ex-spleen yourself!
Jim Phillips
> In article <80ps03$cqc$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Ian H Spedding"
> <iansp...@picklesnet.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Lucianarchy wrote in message
> ><80lq92$qca$1...@lure.pipex.net>...
> >>According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
> >http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
> >>if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away
> >from a glass of milk, go away
> >>for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the
> >liver has 'crept' its way
> >>to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
> >>
> >>Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see
> >this happen.
> >>
> >>Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what
> >happens?
> >
> >
> >Tried it.
> >
> >You know what, in _less_ than 45 minutes my cat crept its
> >way up to the liver and ate it - so I drank the glass of
> >milk.
>
> Oooh. Fortunately, I have a cat who doesn't seem to care for
> red meat much at all. If this experiment required tuna, though,
> it would never work. Or do you think tuna would need to be put in
> a pot of water so it would swim towards the milk?
It depends--was the tuna fish in spring water, or oil?
snip (we don't need anymore pun cascades around here!)
PZ Myers
Templeton" <tem...@vplayground.com> wrote:
>Ian H Spedding <iansp...@picklesnet.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:80ps03$cqc$1...@news4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>> Lucianarchy wrote in message
>> <80lq92$qca$1...@lure.pipex.net>...
>> >According to Garrick Alder ( Fortean Times FT129
>> http://www.forteantimes.com ) ,
>> >if you place a (raw ) liver on a flat surface, 4 - 8" away
>> from a glass of milk, go away
>> >for about 45mins and then return, you will observe that the
>> liver has 'crept' its way
>> >to the glass.... leaving a trail of blood in its' path!
>> >
>> >Being a vegetarian, I wouldn't really get the chance to see
>> this happen.
>> >
>> >Anyone care to do this experiment and lt us know what
>> happens?
>>
>>
>> Tried it.
>>
>> You know what, in _less_ than 45 minutes my cat crept its
>> way up to the liver and ate it - so I drank the glass of
>> milk.
>>
>> Spooky or what?
>>
>> I can only assume that whoever performed the original
>> experiments must have been a scientist of a rather different
>> kidney.
>>
>> (Cue cascade of absolutely offal puns)
>>
>> Ian H Spedding
>>
>>
>
> I think that the original performer may have neglected to tell us that he
>performed the experiment - take your pick - on a ship in rough seas, during
>an earthquake, on an inclined plane (very scientific, you know), with a
>fishing string hooked into the liver on one side of the glass and to a cat
>on the other side of the glass.
I don't get it. I read it, and re-read it, but I just couldn't get the puns
in that comment.
As for the methodology...I favor the idea that the liver was from a cow with
hemochromatosis, and that a magnet was hidden in the glass of milk.
Robert Templeton
PZ Myers <my...@netaxs.com> wrote in message
news:myers-15119...@ppp79.blackbox1-mfs.netaxs.com...
I say, I say, sonny. This there reply wan't made to be funny. Now get on
back to your chicken hawkin'.
Tim DeLaney
<snip>
> >(Cue cascade of absolutely offal puns)
>
> What puns? Ex-spleen yourself!
You've got a lot of gall doing this behind Richard's back.
--
Tim DeLaney
PZ Myers
"tdel...@infi.net"@sbt.infi.net wrote:
I think the gall would be found in front of Richard's back. I've got this
visceral feeling that one shouldn't dabble in a cascade of guts if one
isn't perfectly comfortable with anatomy.
Tim DeLaney
Of all the ... er, effrontery!
I'll bet you're thinking: "Boy, I sure wrecked him, didn't I?"
(You knew, of course, that in the end it would come to this?)
--
Tim DeLaney
Keith Morrison
>
> >> >(Cue cascade of absolutely offal puns)
> >>
> >> What puns? Ex-spleen yourself!
> >
> >You've got a lot of gall doing this behind Richard's back.
>
> I think the gall would be found in front of Richard's back. I've got this
> visceral feeling that one shouldn't dabble in a cascade of guts if one
> isn't perfectly comfortable with anatomy.
You should prostrate yourself in front of people to beg their
forgiveness after that one.
--
Keith
PZ Myers
<kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:
After that one, it should be obvious that I have no pride and no shame,
so begging forgiveness is out of the question.
Ian H Spedding
PZ Myers wrote in message ...
(...)
>Oooh. Fortunately, I have a cat who doesn't seem to care
for
>red meat much at all. If this experiment required tuna,
though,
>it would never work. Or do you think tuna would need to be
put in
>a pot of water so it would swim towards the milk?
Let me see ... if it was a can of tuna in oil and the oil
was leaking on the table which would reduce the friction ...
and the iron in the milk was magnetized .. then I think I'm
well on the way to becoming a kook.
What about zebrafish? Would they swim towards the milk? In
the absence of a confounding factor like a cat, of course.
(...)
>>(Cue cascade of absolutely offal puns)
>
>What puns? Ex-spleen yourself!
I don't think I can deliver so I may have to bile out of
this debate.
Ian H Spedding
Mike Fleming
my...@netaxs.com (PZ Myers) writes:
> Oooh. Fortunately, I have a cat who doesn't seem to care for
> red meat much at all. If this experiment required tuna, though,
> it would never work. Or do you think tuna would need to be put in
> a pot of water so it would swim towards the milk?
You need several tuna steaks and a model of a number of pyramids,
positioned in an unconvincing representation of a constellation of
your choice. The tuna steaks, when placed in a bowl of water within
two feet of the nearest pyramid, will then form a model of Stonehenge.
Warning: this may take some time.
--
Mike Fleming