Positive and negative
Edmond Wollmann
Let me say at the outset that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with
"good and bad". These are subjective value judgements and really tell us
little about the nature of any idea, but much about the observer.
Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive. In other
words to be so balanced is positive itself. But the whole of existence
is IN EXISTENCE because this polarization externalizes and manifests the
"All That Is" from nonphysical into physical. Which brings us to
negative aspects. Please understand "affliction" as another word for
dis-ease. A state of being in which contradiction, conflict and the need
for resolution exist UNRESOLVED. This state of being if unresolved
allows organisms to attack because of the belief in powerlessness, but
negative aspects are not inherently in a state of dis-ease. It is the
resistance to growth reflected as a need through the negative aspects,
that all pain and suffering is the effect of.
Squares and oppositions seek resolution and fulfillment towards ease
(trine). This is not inherently "bad". This actually implies awareness
of the paradoxical nature of "things". Tension is required to walk upon
the earth. The resistance of our legs to the constant pull of gravity
allows us to MOVE instead of remaining in an inertial state. Without
developmental tension nothing moves. It is negative energy that drives
the material universe. If these aspects are seen in preponderance in the
chart it reflects a powerful developmental potential. Like the universe
balance is important. It is the judgement of tension that creates
anxiety. It is the welcoming of tension that is felt as excitement.
Tension is essential for growth. Ease is not necessarily "good" and
tension is not necessarily "bad" so there are no good and bad aspects!
The positive aspects of trine and sextile are the areas where tension
FINDS resolution. They allow for the integration of developmental
tension. Self-empowerment is the recognition that you chose this chart
that you have now for a reason, the hallway of your developmental
choice. You are always creating your reality 100%-even when you use 90%
of this ability to create the illusion that you only have the other 10%!
It is the negative aspects that need attention-the trines support the
squares. What awareness or resolution can be gleaned from this square or
opposition? There is no end. There will be levels higher and higher in
regards to that developmental awareness that can be achieved, welcome
it. The positive aspects have nothing to support and ease if
developmental tension is not acted upon. Negative aspects are your
prescription for action chosen before incarnation, and aspect patterns
are the psychological reflection of how these things are dealt with by
the personality. Psychology is simply the understanding of the exchange
of psychic material consciously and unconsciously and the resulting
behavior therefrom. It is an analysis of the individuals beliefs about
their ability to manifest themselves.
Positive and negative aspects tell us the identity's belief in the
ability to manifest, integrate and express the idea that they are.
Please encourage them in their ability to do so. It is belief and
approach that determines effect extracted. It can be an exciting
exploration of consciousness, the waking up to other levels of
knowingness (Uranus) instead of perceived external limitation and threat
(Saturn). The choice of course is yours.
"I suffer nought against my will, I am not obedient to God, I am in
accord with him, and the more so, because I know that everything takes
place in virtue of an immutable law proclaimed from all eternity."
"Sucipe" a prayer St. Ignatius
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1998 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
Artworks http://www.astroconsulting.com/personal/
SDSU http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~wollmann/
anonym™
Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
Says who, asshole?
SNIP!
Bob Officer
<arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
>Let me say at the outset that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with
>"good and bad". These are subjective value judgements and really tell us
>little about the nature of any idea, but much about the observer.
actually edmond that is a false statement. that is what the hubble
constant is all about...
>Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive. In other
>words to be so balanced is positive itself. But the whole of existence
>is IN EXISTENCE because this polarization externalizes and manifests the
you have yet to show a ballence exsists...
that's two false statements...
Bob Officer
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Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
>Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive.
What a *stupid* statement.
anonym™
jfred wrote:
>
> Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
> > Let me say at the outset that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with
> > "good and bad". These are subjective value judgements and really tell us
> > little about the nature of any idea, but much about the observer.
> <SNIP!>
>
> The Wollmann is incredibly unbalanced, and has a lot of negative energy.
> Let me say at the outset that this has absolutely EVERYTHING to do with
> the fact that Wollmann is a KOOK. These are truths, and Edbert really
> can tell us little about the nature of any idea, but much about how much
> he thinks we should admire him.
>
> Because Wollmann is so unbalanced he is inherently negative. In other
> words to be so unbalanced is kookiness itself. But the whole of his
> existence is spent powerlessly because he externalizes and manifests
> kookiness by abusing usenet. Which brings us to negative aspects. Please
> understand "affliction" as another word for Wollmann's disease. A state
> of being in which contradiction, conflict and the need for resolution
> exist UNRESOLVED. This state of being if unresolved allows organisms to
> attack because of the belief in powerlessness, but negative aspects are
> not inherently in a state of disease. It is the resistance to growth
> reflected as a need through the negative aspects, that all of Wollmann's
> abuse and powerlessness is the effect of.
>
> Wollmann seeks resolution and fulfillment through is spamming, lying and
> wearing panties on his head. This is inherently "bad". This actually
> implies a lack of awareness of the of the nature of "things". Tension is
> created by his presence. The resistance of rational people to his
> deranged ideas makes him angry. Without worshipers he gets cranky. It is
> negative energy that drives Wollmann. If these aspects are seen by
> rational people, they are immediately discounted. It is the judgement of
> intelligent people that Wollmann is a kook and his ideas are
> insupportable. He could not win a debate with a rock. He has no
> credibility, no degree, no credentials, no attorneys, and no gonads.
> An open mind is essential for growth. Unfortunately, Wollmann listens to
> no one save himself and his sock puppets.
>
> The positive contributions of others are completely ignored by Wollmann.
> If you do not kneel at his feet, then he believes you must be against
> him. Self-empowerment is beyond him. He blames others for all that ails
> him. He is always creating his reality 100% -- even when 90% of his
> posts are kooky and the other 10% are just plain stupid!
>
> It is the negative aspects that get attention -- this is why Wollmann
> continues to get replies. What awareness or resolution can be gleaned
> from life? Wollmann has no idea. There will be levels higher and higher
> in regards to that developmental awareness that can be achieved, but
> Wollmann will never even make it to the lowest of them. He's a
> middle-aged man still trying to complete a Bachelor's. Negative aspects
> are his prescription for action chosen before he thinks, and his
> deranged posts are the psychological reflection of how these things are
> dealt with by his abnormal personality. Psychology is the area where he
> needs help. It is an analysis of many qualified individuals who believe
> that his ability to function normally is completely impaired. Positive
> and negative aspects tell us the identity's belief in the ability to
> manifest, integrate and express the idea that they are. Unfortunately,
> Wollmann only expresses the negative. It is his beliefs and approach
> that are kooky. It could be an exciting exploration of consciousness,
> the waking up to other levels of knowingness (Uranus) instead of
> perceived external limitation and threat (Saturn). The choice of course
> is his.
>
> "I suffer from reading Wollmann's posts and his incoherent book."
> "Sucipe" a prayer St. Ignatius
I am fucking saving every one of these gems.
POWERFUL anti-screed!
jfred
--
Cahooter #14
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey.
Habent Abdenda Omnes Praeter Me ac Simiam Meam.
Bob Officer
>In article <367F14...@yahoo.com>,
>Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
>
>>Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive.
>
>What a *stupid* statement.
>
isn't that called a contradiction?
Edmond uses a lot of this.
He seems to me covering all the bases, between negitive and postive..
well all know if you combine a equal negitive and positive, you in
with what an Edmond. ZERO!
Since nature abhors a vacuum you ahave a null value. There is no real
zero.
astudentwatchingnature
Bob Officer
Edmond Wollmann
> Edmond Wollmann wrote:
> SNIP!
> > How does it serve you to have created this pain and suffering from
> > judgment and resistance to growth?
> How does it serve you to be a lying, threatening, harassing, spamming,
> Net-Abusing, Powerless Net-copping, ISP account-losing, censoring,
> theiving, manipulating, unethical, worthless, unsuccessful, dead broke,
> federally-protected bird molesting, privacy and copyright violating,
> tiny-dicked, impotent, panty-headed, deluded, moronic, illogical,
> fraudulent, bad-motorcycle riding, can't even land on a horse without
> falling off, self-immolating, beer bottle smashed on head, lousy at
> husbanding, unfit fathering, forsaken sibling, loan defaulting, bad
> smelling, uncontrolled defacating looney maroon unlicensed counseling
> kooky asshole?
How does it serve you to be so blind to your own envy while others can
clearly see it? How does it serve you to deceive yourself into believing
that you are being humorous when it is obvious to any thi nking
individual that you cannot cover this obsession with me by using your
pornographic tactics and negative obssessions that reflect your obvious
illness?
How does it serve you to be unable to argue coherently without using ad
hominems, and creating such a negative version of someone simply because
they intimidate you and you are so jealous of them, that you spend a
whole year evidencing OCDisorder trying to make others believe your own
projected versions?
How does it serve you to have accomplished nothing for that year except
the public embarrassment OF this evidence of your illness-so much so
that you are paranoid someone will discover your real identity?
This is your created version of a reality filled with your own demons,
and has 0 to do with the world I inhabit.
"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when he describes
another's." Jean Paul Richter
jfred
> anonym™ wrote:
>
> > Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>
> > SNIP!
>
> > > How does it serve you to have created this pain and suffering from
> > > judgment and resistance to growth?
>
> > How does it serve you to be a lying, threatening, harassing, spamming,
> > Net-Abusing, Powerless Net-copping, ISP account-losing, censoring,
> > theiving, manipulating, unethical, worthless, unsuccessful, dead broke,
> > federally-protected bird molesting, privacy and copyright violating,
> > tiny-dicked, impotent, panty-headed, deluded, moronic, illogical,
> > fraudulent, bad-motorcycle riding, can't even land on a horse without
> > falling off, self-immolating, beer bottle smashed on head, lousy at
> > husbanding, unfit fathering, forsaken sibling, loan defaulting, bad
> > smelling, uncontrolled defacating looney maroon unlicensed counseling
> > kooky asshole?
>
> How does it <SNIP>
Wollmann, how does it serve you to be so blind to your own envy while
others can clearly see it? How does it serve you to deceive yourself
into believing that you are making sense when it is obvious to any
thinking individual that your powerless tactics and negative obssessions
reflect your obvious illness? How does it serve you to be unable to
argue coherently without using ad hominems, and creating such a negative
version of someone simply because they don't agree with you and you are
so jealous of them, that you spend a whole year providing evidence of
your OCDisorder and trying to make others believe your own projected and
deranged versions of reality? How does it serve you to have accomplished
nothing for that year except the public display of your illness and the
loss of a dozen accounts?
This is your created version of a reality filled with your own demons,
and has 0 to do with the world the rest of us inhabit.
"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when Wollmann
describes another's." Jean Paul Richter
jfred
anonym™
Indeed.
anonym™
What Jean said.
Bob Officer
>
>
>Bob Officer wrote:
>
>> On 22 Dec 1998 20:12:33 -0800, el...@no.spam (Rick) wrote:
>>
>> >In article <367F14...@yahoo.com>,
>> >Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
>> >
>> >>Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive.
>> >
>> >What a *stupid* statement.
>> >
>>
>> isn't that called a contradiction?
>>
>> Edmond uses a lot of this.
>
>I just looked into this group. Quite a lot of slamming and jamming. Maybe the guy mean inherently
>progressive?
Rod,
I suggest you read a bit more, edmond isn't progressive, he is a fool.
He claims to be an astrologer, and councilor, but alas, he has no
accreditations in any recognized body of councilors in the state of
California and has no professional license, to do counseling. He does
have a business license for a publishing business. HE is not even
licensed to do astrology. Why is this you ask, because the community
he lives in have laws which stop people from taking money for doing
astrology and other false arts.
Ed is different, he reads a lot and understands little.
I posted a while back a chart reading I was asked to do. I didn't
know who it was. I found the chart to be one of the worst charts I
have even seen. I saw reflected in the chart, a control freak, a
person of mean spirit, and man who might spent a lot of time seeking
knoweldge and never learning how to use it. I saw the refections of a
man with childhood problems, maladjustment, and someone who would have
problems dealing with the oposite sex on an equal basis. I saw a
person who would destroy his house rather than abide by the rules of
others. I saw a man whos mind was mired in the mud of self-worth, a
man who would always have problems talking/communicating in pubic.
but then All I ask is for you to read enough of this persons postings.
it is full of contradictions and errors. Then make up your own mind.
But then edmond will tell you what the truth is, and if you disagree
with him, he will call you names. threaten to contact your ISP and
have your account removed. he will insist that his voice is the final
authority when it comes to astrology.
I suggest if you want serious discussions on astrology you try
alt.astrology.moderated.
astudentofastrologylifeandtheworld
Rod H
Bob Officer wrote:
> On 22 Dec 1998 20:12:33 -0800, el...@no.spam (Rick) wrote:
>
> >In article <367F14...@yahoo.com>,
> >Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>The universe is precisely balanced between negative and positive energy.
> >
> >>Because the universe is so balanced it is inherently positive.
> >
> >What a *stupid* statement.
> >
>
> isn't that called a contradiction?
>
> Edmond uses a lot of this.
I just looked into this group. Quite a lot of slamming and jamming. Maybe the guy mean inherently
progressive?
Rod H
Robin Holder, y.
opposed to subjective, is correct.
On Mon, Dec 21, 1998, 7:40pm (EST-3), <arctu...@yahoo.com
(Edmond Wollmann)> wrote:
>The universe is precisely balanced between
>negative and positive energy. Let me say at
>the outset that this has absolutely NOTHING
>to do with "good and bad". These are
>subjective value judgements and really tell us
>little about the nature of any idea, but much
>about the observer.
Robin Holder, y.
Bill Keesing
jfred <jf...@think.different> wrote in message
news:1dkhzxx.1ro...@01-049.014.popsite.net...
>Edmond Wollmann <arctu...@yahooo.com> wrote:
>>
>> How does it <SNIP>
>
>Wollmann, how does it serve you to be so blind to your own envy while
>others can clearly see it? How does it serve you to deceive yourself
>into believing that you are making sense when it is obvious to any
>thinking individual that your powerless tactics and negative obssessions
>reflect your obvious illness? How does it serve you to be unable to
>argue coherently without using ad hominems, and creating such a negative
>version of someone simply because they don't agree with you and you are
>so jealous of them, that you spend a whole year providing evidence of
>your OCDisorder and trying to make others believe your own projected and
>deranged versions of reality? How does it serve you to have accomplished
>nothing for that year except the public display of your illness and the
>loss of a dozen accounts?
It doesn't, except in his own luniverse where it is a list of credentials of the
highest order.
>This is your created version of a reality filled with your own demons,
>and has 0 to do with the world the rest of us inhabit.
But, as with all kooks, he doesn't realise that we are laughing at him.
>"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when Wollmann
>describes another's." Jean Paul Richter
Very true.
The new and approved aam charters can be found at:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/9009/
http://www.databasix.com/officialcharters/alt/astrology/metapsych/charter.html
http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/aamcharter.html
http://www.microserve.com/~dave/aam_charter.html
http://www3.iconz.co.nz/bill/officialaamcharter.htm
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anonym™
It's also the official charter.
Bill Keesing
Phoenix <hangsp...@lart.com> wrote in message
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>In article <91483250...@news.iconz.co.nz>, "Bill Keesing" <u...@ftc.gov>
wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>>It doesn't, except in his own luniverse where it is a list of credentials of
the
>>highest order.
>>
>>>This is your created version of a reality filled with your own demons,
>>>and has 0 to do with the world the rest of us inhabit.
>>
>>But, as with all kooks, he doesn't realise that we are laughing at him.
>>
>>>"A man never discloses his own character so clearly as when Wollmann
>>>describes another's." Jean Paul Richter
>>
>>Very true.
>>
>>The new and approved aam charters can be found at:
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/9009/
>>http://www.databasix.com/officialcharters/alt/astrology/metapsych/charter.html
>>http://www.bcpl.net/~wnidiffe/bamt/aamcharter.html
>>http://www.microserve.com/~dave/aam_charter.html
>>http://www3.iconz.co.nz/bill/officialaamcharter.htm
>
>Oh, and lest ye forget:
>
>http://members.aol.com/macabrus/officialaamcharter.html
>http://www.lart.com/officialaamcharter.html
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Beta, it is a bit buggy. The PGP plugin no longer works with it so I have to cut
and paste the PGP sign the clipboard then paste again. And there are a few
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Is that on a Mac or PC, Bill?
Bill Keesing
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>
>
>Bill Keesing wrote:
>> Added to the sig files. I am trying IE5 which seems to be a pretty stable
>> product, even in Beta form. Has some nice new feature, as does Outlook
Express
>> 5, like the ability to have multiple signature files, changing the identity
in
>> an article, and several other good additions. But, as you would expect with a
>> Beta, it is a bit buggy. The PGP plugin no longer works with it so I have to
cut
>> and paste the PGP sign the clipboard then paste again. And there are a few
>> others.
>
>Is that on a Mac or PC, Bill?
Only real computers in this house.
Currently I have a 64 meg K5 133 with 10 gig storage. Not a Mac to be seen.
:-)
It's about to be kicked up to a K6-II 350 on a 100 MHz m/board with AGP and
either a Voodoo II or Banshee graphics card.
128Meg memory with 16 gig HD space to start off with. 2 gig DAT backup. Blaster
Live sound card and probably a DVD drive.
It will be networked to a Linux box.
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Sylv
given to the self same thing - Positive and Negative - each of which,
tallies up with the other... However, it doesn't always run true, that
each balances out the other...
Sylv...