January 29, 1996
The attached letter, below, from Kathy Kasten, an experiencer, is
an explanation of what she has done to lodge a formal complaint with
the Department of Health and Human Services of the Federal Government
regarding the human, civilian, government’s or military’s apparent
involvement in the alien abduction scenario.
I support Kathy’s brave and courageous efforts and have chosen to
help in both participating by responding as part of the investigation
due to my own experiences of this nature and in doing all that I can
to inform other experiencers and researchers of our efforts. I have
become involved because I strongly feel that to take action is to
start the healing process and that in doing so it is a way to regain
some control in our lives.
Those of you who have had the human element of involvement in
your abduction experiences may know how difficult it is to live with.
You may agree with me that those people conducting such activities
as harassment, surveillance, interrogations, implanting, medical
procedures and mind control experiments on abduction experiencers
must be shown that we are not going to just do nothing and continue
to let these activities go on. The infringements on our rights and
liberties can not be dismissed and that those who are conducting
these activities must be stopped and held accountable.
I realize that many may say this can’t be done, but what’s our
choice, to do nothing? Besides, the Dept. of Health and Human
Services has responded with interest and this open door must be taken
advantage of. We have a responsibility not only to our selves but to
anyone else who may be experiencing such intrusion in their lives.
Those of us willing to participate will be speaking for the many who
can not.
The Dept. has responded after Kathy’s discussions with them by
requesting further information regarding what is taking place with
those involved. At this point Kathy has already mailed off the first
set of responses from those experiencers who have participated thus
far. While the Dept. of Health and Human Services has received these
at this time, they have made no comments as of yet. We await further
response from them and are sure that this is only due to the recent
government shutdown. After all, Kathy was sending the information at
their request.
If you have any of the related activities such as, but not
limited to, harassment, surveillance, abducted by humans, uniformed
personnel present during abductions, interrogations, implants by
humans, medical procedures, drugged and mind control experiments then
please write a brief description of your experiences for us. Try to
include the forms of evidence mentioned in the questions in Kathy’s
letter as much as possible, but if you are not able to then at least
describe the event as best you can, i.e. what did the people look
like, what were they wearing, what did the environment look like, how
were the procedures performed, what was said and what was the effects
of any of this on you? Any contribution of experiences you can make
will assist us.
Our plans are to submit the next group of responses in early
March, 1996. I encourage you to participate and send us what you are
able to by then. If you can answer any of the questions in the
letter to any degree it will be of great help. We already have the
attention of the Dept. of Health and Human Services who have said
that they are interested in going forward with the investigation.
The more we can submit to them as evidence, the greater that
investigation will be. As well as it will help to make it impossible
for them to ignore us for any reason.
Please do not hesitate to call or e-mail me if you have any
questions or concerns. You may also write to either Kathy or myself.
Thank you so much for any assistance you are able to give us.
In loving memory of researcher Karla Turner who’s pioneering work
in this area helped pave the way for those of us with these types of
experiences. She helped us all to be able to come forward and gave
me much courage to do so. She will be greatly missed.
Sincerely,
Melinda Leslie
504½ Marigold
Corona Del Mar, CA 92625
e-mail: Melinda...@MSN.Com
January 29, 1996
Dear Researchers and Abductees/Experiencers:
I have been in contact with Donna Shalala, Secretary of Health and
Human Services, in an effort to persuade her to begin an
investigation of the covert research involving
abductees/experiencers. The reason I did this is because Federal
regulations, mandated in 1974, require that all human subjects
involved in research must sign an Informed Consent Form (ICF). The
ICF is a legal document which states who is performing the research,
the duration of the study period, the reason the research/study is
being done, the procedures to be performed, the possible risks/side
effects of the procedures, certain required statements - such as,
informing the subject that they are free to refuse to participate in
the research at any time, and requires the subjects’ signature. In
the case of children 12 years old and under, a parent’s signature is
required and a simplified form of the ICF is given to the child. As
far as I know, I did not sign an ICF; therefore, I know that the
research involving abductees/ experiencers is illegal/covert, and so
stated this fact to the Secretary.
In order to proceed with the investigation, Lana R. Skirboll, Ph.D.,
Director, Office of Science Policy and Program Planning, one of the
people from NIH assigned by the Secretary to contact me, informed me
by letter (dated August 29, 1994) that she needs certain information
from the individuals involved in the covert research project. This
is the reason for contacting you. I realize the effort it will take
to put the information together in a coherent manner, in a way which
can be understood by someone not involved in dealing with
abductees/experiences, but it is a good cause. That cause being to
call for a government agency to undertake an investigation into the
covert research and to stop it until Federal regulations are met.
Once that happens and the research is brought under this agency
scrutiny, the research can proceed, individuals will then be
cognizant of what they are participating in and be apprised of their
rights under Federal regulations.
Instead of going directly to the public, I thought that it would be
better to ask you to contact clients you think are creditable and
wish to participate to answer Dr. Skirboll questions. Creditability
is a sensitive issue, because we are dealing with a government agency
who does not even acknowledge the phenomena of abduction. The
answers need to provide specific information to allow the Secretary’s
office to begin an investigation.
Please ask anyone you consider to be a reliable witness (i.e.,
someone having some type of physical proof of an abduction) the
following questions:
1. Can you name the institution to which you were taken? Where the
research was conducted? Can you name/describe the contact point?
How were you transported? (If it you know the name of the building
or the address, provide it. If military personnel were present,
state which service.)
2. Can you describe the investigator performing the procedures? Did
s/he state their name? (If the researchers looked human, then so
state. Try to look beyond the paradoxical answers usually given, to
an event that caused to think that maybe you were, in fact, dealing
with humans.)
3. In order to help determine where funding for the research might
have come from, can you remember whether the investigators wore
uniforms/white coats with any patches or identifying markings? Did
the investigator tell you who s/he worked for? (To help answer this
question, provide information on signage you might have seen in the
hallways, clinical areas where the procedures took place.)
4. In as few words as possible, describe the procedures? (If you
know the clinical terms, please utilize them.)
5. Did the investigator/researcher tell you the name of the research
project? (Again, look past the paradoxical answers usually given.
Perhaps, there was a moment when one of the researcher said something
to a co-worker when they thought you were not paying attention.)
It will be necessary to provide specific information to Dr.
Skirboll, such as name and address, so that she can verify the where
and who is performing the research. Remember, I contacted NIH; they
did not contact me. There is no way to go forward with an
investigation into the covert research projects without providing
this information. It is the policy of the agency to keep all
information confidential. I understand the hesitation, but the
agency is bound by an oath of confidentiality. And, the only way to
stop the abduction from happening is to bring everything out into the
open.
If we can provide verifiable information to Dr. Skirboll, I have
been assured that the matter will be pursued. I think it is time for
this covert research to be stopped and brought to light so that the
research can be brought under federal regulations. Then, if anyone
wishes to participate they will be able to sign an informed consent
form, as described at the beginning of this letter. Please help me
in this worthwhile effort.
Thank you,
Kathy Kasten
1093 Broxton #607
Los Angeles, CA 90024
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